So I made a mistake and spent all my money converting my gear to Viper just before the recent nerf. I’m fairly casual now-a-days so it seems daunting and wasteful to switch my gear back to Berserker or Valk. What is the best casual PvE build with Viper gear? I would prefer power because I like that weapon set and playstyle but Viper feels pretty weak with GS.
Edit: Forgot to mention I also farmed Runes of Thorns. I am additionally sad about that. lol
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Actually everyone good who played condition warr used wanderers don’t know why you guys even crying. I think in pro league nobody ever used mercenary
No one has had a chance to play the build we are talking about in Pro League yet.
I believe Denshee played it with Wanderer in the PL matches Monday.
I always think that stuff lines up with the actual seasons better than it does. Thanks.
Is that match replay up online yet?
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Actually everyone good who played condition warr used wanderers don’t know why you guys even crying. I think in pro league nobody ever used mercenary
No one has had a chance to play the build we are talking about in Pro League yet.
Played a little bit with Sage and Berserker Runes. It was pretty tanky still with nice bursts.
Yes but Merc amulet was great for my double melee Sword/Torch Mace/Shield Condi War.
Now it will have to be LB Mace/Shield to keep some distance when needed.
But i will probably test out Power War with Demolisher amulet and GS Axe/Shield especially now Mesmers and Necros will not have Merc Amulet anymore they will have to give up DPS or be squishier.
This change makes me so sad. I was playing my warrior again for the first time in months. I loved that double melee build seemed risky but balanced.
All I see from ppl disliking the ABL so far boil down to “it’s not new so we don’t like it”. Which is a pretty lame and weak argument. Are there real and factual reasons as to why ppl dislike it?
It’s not more blobby or zerg oriented than what I’ve seen from the DBL. That argument is pure unadulterated BS. So, really, what is it?
I’ll tell you what I never noticed in the past before the DBL but notice now that I consider a flaw/bad design. The enemy spawn on each side is so close to the south towers and the side keeps. Doesn’t take long to wp into a map and start attacking a keep.
But that’s the benefit! Action instead of a track meet.
- Your build may not have enough armor to sustain regular hits, in which case the offensive Last Stand would be better.
I think you’re confusing Last Stand with Defy Pain.
I have been having lots of fun and success with this build in sPvP at the moment
Can swap the sigil of smoldering in torch to anything else you prefer but i like the other 3 sigils as they are.
Also i sometimes run Krait runes instead of Balthazar.
Lastly i tend to prefer Dogged March to Shield Master but depends on the enemy team comp. If mostly power based or with DH/Rangers then go for shield master, Otherwise i like Dogged March since its been buffed to give 6 Sec of Regen instead of 4 sec pre patch.
I’m running mostly the same thing but I tend to use your variations more than the base build. lol Krait Runes and Shield Master. You should give Rune of Paralyzation a chance on your mace set. It makes Shield bash and headbutt last a ridiculously long time.
Am I crazy to prefer Cleansing Ire a lot of the time? RR is great but the classes I have trouble with are not dealing direct damage. I equip RR if the other team has double power Revs but beyond that I’m liking Cleansing Ire.
Lol, I just checked this out for fun. If you have Reckless Dodge then it eats the free crit charge every time. So not so great if you Strength. lol
No, but I’ve had plenty of other REvs blow me up. One trick I’ve found is that Revs sword 2 is projectiles so Shield Master can be pretty hilarious.
They still have a yellowish glow.
Lol good chronos will rekt you easy no matter what build you are on. Because of two reasons. 1. They are condition based, countering warrior. 2. They will just kite you the entire match, you won’t be able to even get close.
No offense but those who said chrono is beatable obviously haven’t fought good ones.
Keep telling yourself that.
I am sure throwing your hands in the air and yelling “oh my god its a chrono, might as well lie down” is a good solution as well. If you ever get tired of that, i detailed in a previous post in this thread how to beat meta chronos, as long as you pay attention.
Zerk warriors have some of the best condi cleanse and resistance uptime in the game, i beat most condi builds with zero effort, as long as i get in quick enough and get berserker mode off.
In fact, i much prefer chronos as a matchup instead of scrappers and revs. Good scrappers, i never beat. Revs i have about a 50:50 chance.
Yeah I don’t know what he’s on about. With Cleansing Ire, Berserker Stance, Savage Instinct, Healing Signet and new Adrenal Health I’m having less trouble with Condi builds than ever before.
I’m running a similar build with sword/torch instead of longbow. I also use Shield master which is situational but amazing when you need it.
I’m having a lot of luck with this:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQRAsf5enMdAtdgVhAmhAEliFiAzIA8B7ZvJ3m70Fp19CeeA-TZhAQBG4IAwj9HgYZgNcSAAwDAAA
Depending on comp of the other team I use Cleansing Ire or Rousing Resilience.
EDIT: updated to new sigils
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The trait king of fires is not producing the flame shield detonate in any circumstance.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/King_of_Fires
Very, very carefully…
If the reaper is as good as the scrapper, he’s probably going to win no matter what. As above said, reapers hardcounter scrappers. Condi pistol/pistol might deal a ton of damage fast but as soon as you get condi transfered you kill yourself. Power hammer will just be kited for a while and then mowed down if melee/ds happens.
I have had some intense reaper fights lasting a good while on my hybrid gyro pistol/pistol build but in the end my thought is always that I was simply the better player. He could have won. I have seen reapers roflstomp me by barely even doing anything.
Reaper kite a power hammer scrapper? Lel, I pray I run into reapers that dumb.
I am telling you, burst their health down until they pop shroud. Proc bukwark, and blast gyro, stack retaliation and light aura, block and heal. Their shroud will be gone, you will be full health, and their normal health bar melts fast. Control heals with poison from EG. Ttying to run a condi build against a reaper in spvp is slow suicide.
And I’m telling you that the better player on a reaper wont allow you do to that. They will dump their marks and have you down to 50% hp before you get close for your hammer burst. That’s often about the time when they dump every condition in the world on you followed by an hour of chill and a DS melee burst to face.
But hey look at the bright side, if you find it easy maybe you’re just that good. Or I’m just plain bad at it. I dont know.
I play both classes. He’s right. Sneak gyro is the trick to closing on them without getting covered in conditions. Final Salvo is brutal when they are out of shroud. Don’t forget to use your blocks against Executioner’s Scythe.
It should be a floating version of the DH trap Procession of Blades. That would be worth slotting!
What are you running instead of Slick Shoes and Elixir Gun?
Is this backwards?
– Dazes wreck your life which is why Thief counters Druid
The Engineer trait https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Automated_Medical_Response does not work with the heal skill https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Medic_Gyro despite the fact that the tooltip says ALL healing skills.
There is only one problem related to medic gyro:
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Automated_Medical_Response
This does not work with medic gyro…its a bug or intended?
I. Did. Not. Know. That.
In the new meta build that includes Final Salvo what are the reasons for taking Healing Turret? I’ve been running Medic Gyro and I’m really impressed with it. The f1 skill comboed with Hammer 3 is another heal as big as your main healing skill. I’m also enjoying the ability to use Medic Gyro while stunned. Healing turret gets locked out along with everything else but Medic Gyro is still available if I’m getting CCed and focused.
I know I’m missing out on another blast finisher but beyond that I’m not really seeing the benefits of Healing Turret. BTW, I have always used Healing Turret until this week and understand the water field self destruct combo.
It’s the new meta. People aren’t used to being dusted the second a +1 or +2 shows up. Last meta you could hold out longer against a uneven fight and your pug teammates might eventually stumble over to your point to see what’s going on.
Now you have to have a good rotation and that makes pugging a little harder. If you want to win at all in this meta as soloQ you gotta stick together and not send one far and one to each creature. lol
I saw a lot of teams running two revs. were they running one Condi and one power? I’m particularly interested in Magic Toker’s build it looked glassy but fun. The stream didn’t really linger on the build screens very much.
You would be surprised. Some poster in scrapper thread tried to prove me that scrappers require high skill, good knowledge of game and not what because of water field blast…..
Lol, that’d almost be true if every kitten thing they did wasn’t a blast or a leap finisher. Distribution of finishers and fields is really inconsistent across classes. I actually think it’s one of the biggest factors in making classes imbalanced at anything above faceroll level of gameplay.
It was removed in the recent patch that removed Cele and nerfed sigil of energy, etc. I’m trying to figure out in what strange scenario was it overpowered? I had honestly never seen it used.
I main warrior, so I definitely get our tradeoff but I doubt engi are that perfect. I mean they have to sacrifice something to get burst/sustain or whatever.
You really need to go play some meta scrapper. It is better in every conceivable way than Warrior. It’s very sad right now. The only “skillful” thing is being able to get off your healing turret blast but calling that skillful is sort of a joke.
Cool video. It’s interesting to see base ranger played well without Druid.
One thing I haven’t seen mentioned is how the mechanics of DH favor sPvP and certain maps in general. I always notice that DHs are a real pain on Forest for example. Forest mid point in particular is made for DH. It has everything they need to be really annoying. It has a tiny capture point (about the size of a trap) it has nice sight lines and elevation so you can true shot anyone that comes through the lower doors and it has a blind corner to LoS people that jump from above (and land on your trap).
DH is noticeably less annoying on Foefire unless they double team mid and intelligently cover the capture point with traps (lol).
What is this build? It seems good for soloing champs and such.
What’s in your 3rd utility slot?
I don’t typically have problems with DH but about every 5th one will be really shockingly tanky. I know they are running Renewed Focus and focus off hand but beyond that I’m sort of at a loss. Anyone know what this tankier version of DH is? They still hit relatively hard so I know it isn’t full bunker.
Yes, if that help is 10 seconds away.
If those 2+ opponents properly focus and pressure, there is no way you can bunker a point for a significant amount of time, regardless of class or build.
Do you realize you are arguing that a Zerker build with Strength runes is “tanky” ?
All I’m saying is that when you run with your defensive stats this low you will have to get off point while waiting for backup. That isn’t even up for debate.
The only times I’ve seen him do that was when there was no point in preserving Putrid’s cooldown because the fight was already won.
There is not a single class or build that could pull this off unless those vX opponents are bad.
He does it several times in this video alone. There is sort of a mitigating circumstance in this build though because it is very high damage with all his might and zerker amulet. Around 7:20 is a good example. He does it immediately after “Suffer” which already transferred his conditions. There are a few more but it is hard to tell because he may have been doing it to use the damage or the blast finisher.
As far as the 1vX thing goes that isn’t really true because I said ON POINT. There are plenty of builds that can survive 1vX on point until help gets there. The Zerker amulet is glassy no matter how you slice it. Running off point and using LoS is good gameplay but it will not help you win the point.
I want to believe! But what I saw was a lot of team support. In all of your 1vX fights you started losing and had to get off point until friends arrived. I want power Reaper to work so badly but It just can’t compare to the condi/hybrid in sustain and 1vX fights.
You also really need to stop spamming Staff 4. I love your videos and watch them all but man you waste your condition transfer almost every fight.
kitten ! DH POWER!
I <3 power Reaper it’s just so full of fail compared to the new condi reaper that I excluded it on purpose. I feel like the real flavor of a bruiser class should be power based. Shouldn’t a bruiser be able to bully people off of point and deny the cap? Condi reaper is ranged and will fight off point a lot.
What class/weapons is the best power based bruiser post patch? I’m assuming it is still Scrapper/hammer Engie but I’m seeing a few potent power Heralds too.
So is there a new build for post patch?
The lobby NPCs that represent professions have become completely irrelevant. They don’t apply conditions and they don’t even buff themselves. It makes it almost impossible to relevantly test builds. I know a big AI update is out of the question but can you give them some updated skills at least?
I know your post is about pve but I really wish power reaper was better in PvP too. It is such a fun bruiser build but with the state of boons missing out on corruption power really hurts. The nerf to Blighter’s Boon hurt power reaper really badly and it has never really recovered.
So we’re basically back to the old meta build, then? lol
I want this to work but I find Blast Gyro inferior to Slick shoes. I love the idea of it but in the current boon spam world everyone has stability. I just never get the knockback.
Also, what is your full utilities? Assuming:
Healing Turret/Elixir B/Blast Gyro/Elixir gun/Sneak Gyro
It’s not available in PvP is it?
Ha! I just came here to ask what the new build was with unlimited roots. I’d say they’re fine. Unless you are built for tons of cleanse or anti immob they are pretty brutal.
I can’t wait to go HAM with this amulet.
I’m legitimately confused. I thought Guardian was the Go-To tank for Raids? I am trying to gear up one of my characters for tanking and thought Guardian would be the most secure. What is going on?
Chronomancer is the go-to tank, yo
With the upcoming changes that doesn’t seem likely to remain true.
Reaper tank here for one of my guild’s groups.
Your toughness should be just enough to be the highest amount in your group. The current amount of toughness you’re running is too high, you don’t need that much. You’re losing out on damage and all of the bosses, especially Gorse, are DPS races. You’re also running with pugs who vary wildly from good to bad, so you should be doing your best to help the group with damage as much as possible while being a good tank.
With Shroud and Rise Reaper tanks are very durable while using the minimum amount of toughness required. Furthermore, once you hit 30% crit chance you can mix in Valks for extra health, since fury and decimate defenses will make up the final 70% crit chance.
The amount of toughness you want to run is just enough where you are the person with the most toughness in the group. Generally its your group’s druid that you want to collaborate with, as they usually run gear with some toughness. You also might want to collaborate with your group’s ele if they’re running cele to be more supportish. Everyone else should be at 1000 toughness.
Going with this theme, you do not need to build for defensive traits. Death Magic is unnecessary (unless you’re a condi reaper tank, but you’re not). Take Spite instead, as it gives +15% more damage (Spiteful Talisman, Close to Death), and either a little more personal chill (Chill of Death) or better axe damage/CD reduction if you have to be on blue guardian during the VG split for boon removal.
For the 2nd trait line I like Blood Magic, as it gives some more healing with siphons, a minor group damage/healing boost with Vampiric Presence, faster rezzing with Ritual of Life, and either an emergency rez through Transfusion or lowered well CDs and some protection and siphons with vampiric rituals.
Finally, in reaper I like to use deathly chill, which with 25 might and thus the 750 condi damage, can hit moderately hard. Going with this chilling nova is a good thing to take, although augury of death is good too if you want rise and your soul is mine up more for more sustain.
A few other things I like to do is to take well of corruption/suffering for more damage (and prot/siphons if you run vampiric rituals), Rise and your soul is mine for self-sustain, and flesh golem for break bars, although chilled to the bone is good if you’re group is bad at the seekers during VG.
Can you post a build? How do you run without Soul Reaping? I feel like I really want the shroud cooldown traits.