You people really need to stop throwing around internal cooldown suggestions, especially on defensive abilities. There is nothing scaling about internal cooldown.
You’re wrong in this case. If the problem was too much scaling from outside sources then throttling via an ICD is the obvious solution. The way it is now Reaper needs dramatically more access to boons to get anything out of this trait. There are certain builds that can generate more boons on demand but a large portion of Reaper builds are severely lacking in boon generation.
I find it really hard to believe that this change is better than adding a small ICD (like 1 or 2 seconds) and then adjusting heal/LF numbers. I’m sure from a dev perspective it is easier to implement the way they did it but no way do I think this is the more sensible change. I really hope Robert Gee and his team take another look.
Well if it has to be selfish switch it to Conditions Applied instead of Boons received. We have no consistent source of Boons but we don’t lack for condition application.
Blighter’s Boon
Gain life force when you apply a condition. If you are in reaper’s shroud, gain health instead.
Am I the only one here that is so shallow that I hate using it just because it’s so kitten ugly?
That’s the best part if you just keep it out while running around it gets eaten alive by pocket raptors as a punishment for its ugliness. Also it is sort of slow so you don’t have to look at it. :P
If you’re like me and gave up on Flesh Golem as an elite outside of a Minion Master build, then give it a try again. The 95% AOE reduction has made them remarkably durable even in non Minion Master builds. The AOE damage reduction applies to cleave as well so that little guy just keeps on truckin and your knockdown/interrupt is available almost all the time.
I’m enjoying Reaper with just 60 points. Lots of negative nancies in here. I rolled a new character for Reaper so I didn’t have nearly enough HPs I’ve been getting as many challenges as I can. It isn’t so bad. I already have gliding and Updraft usage. You need the Hylek language unlock for that one that is down really low in Verdant brink. For the poison ones you need the skinny frog poison resistance.
Stop calling for Nerfs before the profession is even live! What is wrong with you people? You don’t know anything about the final iteration of the class so what makes you think you have ANY idea how or why to nerf it?
Vamp runes saved him so many times. That rune set is becoming required for glassy builds.
I wonder if Speed of Shadows would have helped you? It seems you were almost always waiting on shroud cooldown. I know you’d lose Soul Marks but the 7 sec shroud cooldown is very nice.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. That cooldown reduction is crucial
You just need to make sure to weigh that cooldown against the reduced total amount of LF he would have without Soul Marks. I personally love the Shroud CD reduction, as it means you can bounce in and out more freely, but it’s a careful consideration.
Totally agree, in BWE I only took it when I wasn’t using staff. I ran Greatsword/Dagger Warhorn a lot. In that build it is amazing but you can be starved for life force.
Vamp runes saved him so many times. That rune set is becoming required for glassy builds.
I wonder if Speed of Shadows would have helped you? It seems you were almost always waiting on shroud cooldown. I know you’d lose Soul Marks but the 7 sec shroud cooldown is very nice.
Shivers of Dread is completely worthless to far too many builds. If you don’t bring staff, rely on RNG corruptions, or a very select set of skills, you have an entire set of minor traits that give, in total: +20% chill duration, 10% reduced damage from Chilled enemies, 3s AoE fear every 28s. That’s awful, like, approaching Death Magic minors level of awful.
That isn’t totally true. The chill is there to keep them in Melee range instead of your fear moving them out of range of your melee skills. So it is basically a requirement if you ever plan to shatter RS3. I agree it could use an additional effect but the current part has to stay.
Problem is you dont want to use fear when trying to keep close to people. Its counterproductive. I didnt mind it at first. But since trying the raid its just got on my nerves. I was trying to use RS3 to disperse the red seeker orbs on the raid boss but it was completely inneffective due to that trait.
The other Reaper minor is also pretty terrible. Chill uptime still isnt great unless you completely build around it. Which is a poor decision. It needs something extra. Like bonus damage on chilled foes.
In PvP RS3 shatter is used almost exclusively to interrupt and you don’t want people running out of melee range.
Shivers of Dread is completely worthless to far too many builds. If you don’t bring staff, rely on RNG corruptions, or a very select set of skills, you have an entire set of minor traits that give, in total: +20% chill duration, 10% reduced damage from Chilled enemies, 3s AoE fear every 28s. That’s awful, like, approaching Death Magic minors level of awful.
That isn’t totally true. The chill is there to keep them in Melee range instead of your fear moving them out of range of your melee skills. So it is basically a requirement if you ever plan to shatter RS3. I agree it could use an additional effect but the current part has to stay.
Why are necros so self-hating? No other forum asks for nerfs to themselves before their skills are even live. Go look at the Mesmers pretending Chronomancer is balanced.
Geezus guys, I guess the note at the end wasn’t enough to make this an obvious joke? I’m well aware of how ridiculously overpowered this would be. I still think you’d like it if you had landed a few Gravediggers from stealth like I was lucky enough to do during BWE3.
I had a shower thought this morning and after noticing a few times during BWE3 that I would get stealth form Death’s Charge I realized how amazing it would be to be able to land Gravediggers from Stealth!! So If Nightfall becomes a Smoke field we can flash into Reaper’s Shroud cast Death’s Charge for stealth then drop shroud and cast Gravedigger. Three seconds of stealth should be just enough to get off that ridiculous Animation before getting interrupted! Boom! Balanced, just like Mesmers!
Seriously though even if you have to nerf it immediately give us a week or so at launch with a smoke field!
I used it almost exclusively for GS4 then swapped to Dagger/warhorn. It felt like a utility weapon that I could switch to situationally. The AA is unbearable in small scale PvP. Even the supposed upside of the AA and Gravedigger are outshined by the RS2 and RS4. I would generally swap from Dagger before entering shroud just to drop a GS4 then stand on it in Reaper Shroud and gain frost armor with RS2. Ideally Locust swarm would still be up to strip blinds. So WH5 > swap > GS4 > transform > RS2 and I’m pretty set up to wreck face in Reaper Shroud.
How can you call a fabricated time gate anything but arbitrary? If it was based on the game market that wouldn’t be arbitrary. The only point for it after two years is to keep the price high. Keeping the price high is still more punishment for people that didn’t care about high end fractals but are interested in Raids.
Timegating is fine. How long has ascended armor been in game now? 2 years? If you want to instantly craft it, spend the extre gold fee on the trading post.
Not only that, but the items drop left and right now in current endgame pve content (fractals). You don’t seriously expect to succeed in raids if you haven’t even bothered with clearing this easier content?
This “But I want it NOW NOW NOW!” attitude of people needs to end.
The Now Now Now attitude is not a result of people wanting armor it is a result of the requirement for Ascended Armor in the Raids. There has never been a time gated lockout mechanic for game content in this game. The idea that they are adding one in Raids is disgusting. That’s why the easiest thing to do is remove the time gating on the materials.
I want to quickly clarify something about this note. The change is that specifically Plague form and Lich form will not destroy your minions. We can’t do this universally for all transforms because it can cause problems with the balance of events or story steps that transform you.
Moa specifically will still destroy them. When we decided on these changes we felt that the behavior of Moa vs pets was one that needed more discussion. We didn’t feel comfortable changing this behavior for this patch as it affects more classes than just necromancer.
Lich and Plague form was more of a clear cut issue of “hey, let’s not punish minion masters for pressing their elite”.
Specifically the time gating? I’m one of the many that wasn’t interested in Fractals but is interested in Raids. I have Ascended weapons and Trinkets but never saw a need for the armor.
Now I’m trying to get ready for raids but have to wonder why the totally arbitrary crafting cooldowns still exist?
Additionally it’d be nice if someone looked at the absurd price of light armor compared to the other sets.
I was running a power build, marauders actually. And in his defense, he didn’t know I was a Chrono until right before we started, I put out a call for fuels in the mists to try and get a fight vs every other elite.
I wasn’t really commenting on the damage just the number of conditions that Chronos put out. The heal on Consume Conditions is based on the number of conditions removed.
Maybe don’t use minions against an elite spec with tons of aoe?
That’s.. Much less informative than I had hoped.
Could you elaborate? What would you have run and why?
Minions have crappy AI and will just sit in the AoE getting torn up. That seems OK because of the field they leave behind when they die but it clearly isn’t doing enough damage to you.
Another thing to notice is that this build appears to be extremely starved for Life Force. he is forced into shroud with less than 50% LF several times. If this is in BWE2 then I’d say it is a build problem. in BWE1 it was all around hard but PvPing in BWE2 I didn’t really have LF problems.
You won’t really get satisfying answers IMO because you seem generally better than this player and he is running a build that will always be weak against you.
Minion spec looks like a bad idea against a Chrono. Also, even if you do use minion spec the Blood Fiend seems like a terrible heal choice against a condi heavy class. When you fight a condi heavy class you are giving up a HUGE heal if you don’t run Consume conditions.
How can people pretend this is a nerf when chill previously DIDN’T APPLY AT ALL. Now it applies through the break bar to make traits work and people call it a nerf!?
It is a nerf because other classes have way to significantly break defiance bar. Necromancers however do not and Arena net was aware of that fact while designing the reaper.
Other classes get to break the bar, while we get the honor of sneezing at it.
I don’t think that word means what you think it means…
It can’t be a nerf because we are gaining valuable functionality. You may not think it is a big enough buff but that still doesn’t make it a nerf.
The ridiculous overstatements from this community erode the confidence in our feedback.
How can people pretend this is a nerf when chill previously DIDN’T APPLY AT ALL. Now it applies through the break bar to make traits work and people call it a nerf!?
I went might/spectral/celestial in PvP and loved it it felt like cele/signet with more mobility. The main source of damage is direct but you get a lot of condition damage from all the whirl finishers. It is basically a Hybrid build.
Vital persistence is very overrated by this community.
It isn’t the must take trait everybody here seems to think it is. Spectral Mastey is pretty fantastic. Traited Spectral walk is fantastic. Traited Spectral Armor gives you great sustain, and Traited Lich is a useable elite that fills in gameplay gaps for your reaper.
I agree about Spectral Mastery being underrated but I’m not sure Traited Lich was that great with Reaper. I much prefered the new Elite Shout in sPvP. It fit really well with what I wanted to be doing. Namely hitting multiple targets in team fights. In WvW or some other format (courtyard?) I could see lich being better but nailing 3 targets with “Chilled to the bone!” seemed to be more effective for making big plays.
I played Spectral reaper in PvP the whole last BWE. I loved it. I played it as a might stacking build with either Celestial or Marauder. I prefered Celestial because of the room for error but someone better could get away with Marauder. The best part was that spectral grasp was totally viable since you’re a melee class. It was nice to have an extra interrupt too. Lich Form is a spectral skill and get’s cooldown reduction but it doesn’t really fit in the Reaper playstyle that well.
No thank you. I don’t want the Devs to dumb down the game just because people don’t know how to use their mouse, Target key or Tab button.
okay ill just have to keep left clicking that thief over and over again about 10 times during a fight but they only had to target me one time at the start. that is really fair and balanced isnt it?
You shouldn’t be clicking anyone. Learn how to target cycle with your keyboard.
I’m running P/P HGH with Elixir gun, Balthazar runes and Celestial amulet. It is pretty amazing in unranked. I’ve no doubt organized condition transfer/removal could mess me up but usually people run out of condi removal before I run out of healing turrets.
Ok so can someone post a video of killing Svanir and Chieftain on a D/D Celementalist? As a newbie Ele I get stomped. I can kill them on almost all my other characters too.
3 is probably right at the threshold of value. There is no limit to the number of Aegises you can apply with Communal Defenses so more is better. The Aegis is applied to Mesmer clones and Pets too. So 3 with a Mesmer or Ranger would probably be worth it.
You should watch Amin’s Shattered Aegis video. Shattered Aegis is very powerful but requires a tight roaming group due to the radius of Communal Defenses. Just to harp on it more if you are using Communal Defenses, Shelter is virtually required because it is another source for applying Aegis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kREHVcCNYw
Shattered Aegis is useless on solo roam.
You need to get the advantage of the shatter on the Aegis(es) you applied to others. I was wondering about why you have Communal Defenses if you solo roam. That trait only gives aegis to other people not you.
I still wish you’d give shelter a chance against thief. Blocking their burst uses up their initiative in addition to mitigating damage and healing you.
I use Litany but only find it effective against multiple targets.
