Guild Wars 2

warbignime.4610:

Raine.1394:

That’s pretty much my whole thing with PoF and the reason I won’t pre-purchase. Does it stand on the shoulders of GW2 and extend it or does it take us down the path of Dry Top and HoT. I won’t buy PoF if platforming and puzzles are required to advance the core game.

Edit: Yes, JustTrogdor, forgot to mention I’ll be looking for the absence of densely packed, annoying mobs as well in making my purchasing decision.

Yes, let’s just hand players everything on a silver platter without effort, what an awesome game design idea. Let’s make open world open plain without any challenge, that seems a great idea.

Dude, a game without difficulty and challenge is not a game, that’s called an interactable tour/visual novel.

Better yet, let’s just make up imaginary straw men to argue against so we don’t have to pay attention to what other players actually say. Not intellectually lazy nor creepy at all.

Meanwhile, back in the real world, it is indeed possible for players to dislike the designs of Dry Top and Heart of Thorns while still desiring content that’s challenging and entertaining.

Whether Path of Fire will offer that or not remains an open question, but the answer to that question will never come to those unwilling to ask questions at all.

Meanwhile, somewhere, far, far away, Hermes quietly weeps.

…and then I realized ping.exe measures round-trip latency, the client is probably reporting one-way latency, and ~160ms/2 = ~80ms.

So yeah.

Thanks for the IPs and checking this out.

Interestingly, I do get replies from those addresses, though their latency is much higher than what the client reports on the Options panel in-game, which averages around 80ms or so. To wit:

Ping statistics for 206.127.146.33:
Packets: Sent = 14, Received = 14, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 155ms, Maximum = 167ms, Average = 157ms

Ping statistics for 64.25.47.109:
Packets: Sent = 16, Received = 16, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 155ms, Maximum = 179ms, Average = 158ms

Ping statistics for 206.127.159.108:
Packets: Sent = 18, Received = 18, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 155ms, Maximum = 168ms, Average = 158ms

So I’m not sure that those IPs correspond to what the client is checking when it reports ~80ms.

It’s definitely puzzling that the launcher loads a small amount of patch data each time it’s launched, then fizzles out to 0kB/sec, yet I was able to download enough to log in on patch day, and the fresh install managed to download 5.64GB of data before stopping just shy of being playable.

I sent in a copy of ArenaNet’s GameAdvisor diagnostic output as request by support, and scanned through it for anything obvious, but the file is very verbose, and nothing jumped out at me.

Hopefully the good folks at ArenaNet will put me on the path to a whole and healthy client soon, but as always, if anyone has any ideas, I’m all ears.

Darko.5893:

Whats ur ISP & Router ?
personally, every patch i have to close/open the launcher like 10 times, else it drops to 0 kbps and never picks off, sometimes it does. mostly not.

My ISP connection is via 6Mb/sec wide-area wireless through a dish/base station link. I’ve been using it for about 18 months, and aside from occasional issues related to extreme weather or equipment failures, it’s been pretty good.

When I suspect network problems, I run pings just in case, and this is a typical summary of what my pings look like to GuildWars.com, whether the GW2 launcher is running (and exhibiting the patching problem) or not:

Ping statistics for 64.25.40.51:
Packets: Sent = 399, Received = 399, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 48ms, Maximum = 139ms, Average = 52ms

If there’s a better address to ping for diagnostic purposes, I’d love to know. The game servers themselves (as indicated by resmon) don’t reply when I ping their IP addresses directly.

My router is a Netgear WNR3500L that I’ve had since 2010 and is the same router through which I installed GW2 in beta and have patched it successfully ever since.

It’s not normal for me to have to restart the client for a patch to complete, and this problem didn’t occur prior to the Season 3 Episode 2 patch.

I requested help from GW2 support, and checked this forum to see if anyone else was having a similar problem, but didn’t see any solutions, so I figured I might as well post a copy of my support request here and see if anyone else may have found a solution to this problem already…

As of the Living World Season 3 Episode 2 the game won’t patch completely and the launcher stops downloading with hundreds of files still left to download.

On patch day, my existing installation patched to a point that allowed me to log in and play, but still shows over 1700 files left to download. Each time I restart the launcher, it will download from a few to a few hundred kB of data or so, and the files remaining count will decrement by around 3-12 files, then the downloading will stall, showing a download rate of 0kB/sec.

I’ve restarted the existing client’s launcher at least twenty times, with the same results. Leaving the launcher running doesn’t change anything: I left it running all night and it never downloaded anything more.

On the possibility that something was wrong with my existing installation, I moved it to a different directory and ran a fresh install using a copy of Gw2Setup-64.exe newly downloaded from my account page at Arena.net.

The fresh install stopped with the same symptoms shortly before the “playable” point on the download bar (after successfully downloading several GB of data) and showed the same symptoms as my existing client, so I ended up switching back to the old client, which still exhibits the same problems but at least allows me to log in to the game.

My pings to GuildWars.com and other Internet sites are fine while this problem occurs, and I haven’t experienced any problems with my Internet connectivity or computer performance that would explain this problem.

There have been no changes to my router, nor do the symptoms correlate with an obvious firewall block because the client has been able to download several GB of data without problems. There is over 250GB of free space on the drive where the client is installed, and which is the same drive on which I attempted the fresh install (it’s a 512GB SSD).

Request #2376858 “GW2 Client Won’t Patch Comp…” created at https://help.guildwars2.com/anonymous_requests/new

BURN THE HERETICS!

Guild Wars 2: Rise Of The Skritt

Playable Skritt is the obvious necessity for a successful second expansion. And more shinies.

More shinies + playable Skritt = Best. Expansion. Ever.

Yes.

Lawyers can’t stop them.

Call a gardener!

Is GW2 the best MMO?

Can’t say.

Is GW2 the best MMO I’ve ever played?

Definitely.

I think adding HoT dailies to the mix would be a great idea, as long as they were included in addition to, not in place of, existing dailies.

Coo.

Quaggan likes you.

More gliding, less jumping.

They need to modify it based on the feedback in this thread, then give it a new name when the festival comes around next year so players will know it was improved.

I suggest Dragon Ball… Z.

A scrolling list would do it for me.

Amazon should just buy ArenaNet and be done with it.

DoctorDing.5890:

Maybe a bit ranty…

…but deliciously ironic, because the laziest thing anyone can do in a forum is set up a straw man and pretend arguing with imaginary people actually convinces anyone of anything — other than the fact that some people prefer to argue with imaginary people.

Using a lazy argument to lament laziness and imply people should be ashamed of being lazy?

Priceless.

They nerfed it?

Great! Maybe I’ll go check out Tangled Depths now.

maddoctor.2738:

Majic.4801:

CadeRG.4508:

I’d just like to remind everyone that GuildWars 2 is an mmo. It’s a multiplayer game. Any mmo that allows you to play all content solo isn’t doing it right.

Insisting Guild Wars 2 — a game designed and marketed specifically to be different from other MMOs — should be like “any” MMO, as if it must conform to your standard, cookie-cutter definition of an MMO (which is wrong, by the way), really, really misses the point.

I’m not saying GW2 shouldn’t have group-only content, just pointing out the patent absurdity of arguing it should because some (and not all) other MMOs do.

There is a vast difference between group content in GW2 and group content in other games. You don’t have to wait for that specific role/build to come to play in the open world, in fact you don’t have to wait at all to participate in group content. You don’t have to form an actual party to play, you don’t have to WAIT at all, you jump right in the action and if there are enough players on the map they’ll join up and help.

Yes, sometimes you might have to give a shout on map chat to ask for help, but that’s nothing like advertising a party, or doing a LFG in other MMORPGs.

So Guild Wars 2 does things differently than other MMORPGs, that doesn’t mean it should be only for solo players.

Majic.4801:

I’m not saying GW2 shouldn’t have group-only content, just pointing out the patent absurdity of arguing it should because some (and not all) other MMOs do.

CadeRG.4508:

I’d just like to remind everyone that GuildWars 2 is an mmo. It’s a multiplayer game. Any mmo that allows you to play all content solo isn’t doing it right.

Insisting Guild Wars 2 — a game designed and marketed specifically to be different from other MMOs — should be like “any” MMO, as if it must conform to your standard, cookie-cutter definition of an MMO (which is wrong, by the way), really, really misses the point.

I’m not saying GW2 shouldn’t have group-only content, just pointing out the patent absurdity of arguing it should because some (and not all) other MMOs do.

Colin Johanson sez:

From a marketing standpoint, it (and the ESL weekly cups and WTS tournaments before it) has been extremely successful so far, among the most successful projects our marketing team has ever launched to grow our title in the history of the Guild Wars franchise in return for the cost. If you don’t like it more power to you, don’t watch, but it’s absolutely helping our marketing folks make Gw2 a bigger game which I’d hope we’re all excited about. If you want to see the game fail I’m not sure what you’re doing here, but rooting against programs like pro league is basically rooting against Gw2 growing. When folks come here and rip on stuff like PvP, you’re basically hurting the games ability to grow – and personally I would say shame on you, if you truly love the game, be constructive and give awesome feedback and suggestions: but don’t knock it just cause it’s not PvE. And let’s be honest, it beats spending marketing funds on taxi confession ads or people spray painting wall cinematics if you ask me.

Opinions may vary, of course, but I think Colin is in a better position to determine the value and cost-effectiveness of GW2’s eSports initiative than anyone here.

…

Full Disclosure: I have no personal interest in eSports, whether GW2 or anything else, but for those who do, more power to you.

The argument lacks symmetry.

The Tengu will awaken after Playable Skritt invade the Dominion of Winds and steal all their shinies.

BumbleBee.8456:

Triple Trouble starting in x minutes. Please join my squad /squadjoin XXXX 123Lëgöläs123 XXXX

Attempt 1,
attempt 2,
attempt x*y

/ragequit

Please can we have a cut and paste option on the chat window

No umlauts? NO SQUAD FOR YOU!!!

Because that’s how Cömmändër XXXX 123Lëgöläs123 XXXX rolls, baby.

…

(But yeah, the absence of chat cut-and-paste functionality in a 21st-century MMO is a crime punishable under Sëctïön 123 of the Ünïförm Cödë Öf XXXX 123Lëgöläs123 XXXX, so ArenaNet had better implement cut-and-paste soon if they don’t want to end up in Ümläüt Cöürt, where penalties are harsh and heavily accented.)

Guild Wars 2 is the worst form of MMO.

Except for all the others.

I love this idea, because for years selfish players have been stealing my cool names by picking them before I do.

Oh yes. Better log in often, XXXX 123Legolas123 XXXX, or someday you will be mine!

BUAHAHAHAHAAAA!

cough

Or you could just use umlauts like everyone else.

Signed,

XXXX 123Lëgöläs123 XXXX

midnight tea.3681:

To me the biggest sign that GW2 is on its way to being more welcoming to players like me rather than less is when they made Zhaitan killable w/o needing a party. You guys don’t want to know how long I had the “Victory or Death” green star on my HUD.

For whatever it’s worth, I’ve been playing since beta and still haven’t finished the personal story on any of my characters because it galled me so much to have to beg up a party to finish my personal story.

And I have 35 characters. All level 80. I consider that a failure on ArenaNet’s part, not mine, and am glad they finally fixed it.

It’s not that I mind grouping: easy grouping was one of the main things that attracted me to GW2 in the first place. It’s that I do mind forced grouping, and its relative absence is also one of the main things that attracted me to GW2 in the first place.

Oh the irony.

Hmm. Now that you’ve reminded me, I guess maybe I should finally finish up the personal story on at least one of my characters.

Meh, eventually.

Did I mention I’m proud to be casual?

…

P.S. I have never, ever set foot in a single dungeon in GW2, probably never will, have the same plans for raiding, and have no regrets.

I’ve always been “proud to be casual”, but I must confess, Heart of Thorns has been… changing how I play.

I have no shortage of complaints, but I do like the expansion, appreciate the insane amount of talent and effort it took to produce, and am looking forward to the (hopefully) many iterations to come.

Farm.

Next question.

It has not been definitely established that Rengar isn’t charr.

Indeed, based on his LOL Wiki background page, it looks like he would fit right in.

Kind of a rough start for the thread (cough), but a view distance slider would be a nice addition to the options.

It’s a process.

True success is one percent iteration, ninety-nine percent more iteration.

— Researcher Irkz

BloodyNine.7504:

Dragon Stand is one of my favorite new maps. Not everyone loves everything everyone else loves. Accept that. Move on.

Not everyone loves everything you love, either.

Accept that. Move on.

After being a member since beta, I left GW2Guru a couple of years ago because of capricious and unpredictable moderation.

The first time I received an infraction (which is something that almost never happens to me anywhere), it was explained as literally a difference of opinion over what the infracting mod thought I should have posted. No rules were cited, and I couldn’t find anything in the Forum Rules & Guidelines justifying it, but I shrugged it off as an anomaly.

When it happened again a few days later, I was again unable to understand what rule I had broken, or how I could even begin to know how to avoid being infracted again, so with a potential account ban seemingly inevitable if the pattern persisted, I decided to simplify the process by scrambling my password and never going back.

Worked great. No problems since.

When others want something you have, they’re greedy.

When others have something you want, they’re greedy.

That’s the magic of greed.

Sorry, but I have to disagree.

Because forum.

A positive post doesn’t include the word “haters”.

If you really like the game, that’s great, but you can like the game without assigning negative labels to players who don’t see things your way.

Just sayin’

+1 for brevity.

…

But seriously, quite the grand narrative indeed. And, for some reason, I feel a sudden urge to play Dragon Age: Inquisition.

Agreed. It doesn’t make sense to make expensive items purchased with gold unsalvageable.

Why?

Kitten trench coats are adorable!

Exploring?

Sure. Let’s go.

That’s raiding for you. It’s the same in every game.

Unfortunately, it’s the same in every game.

PaxTheGreatOne.9472:

Majic.4801:

Inoki.6048:

Majic.4801:

Inoki.6048:

Dungeons, as I’ve heard, are going to be completely removed, and the team behind them might’ve already been disbanded.

Where did you hear this?

In the game. Everybody’s talking about it. I think it was talked about on Reddit.

For something “everybody” is supposedly talking about, I’m not able to find anything written down via Google, the Dungeon forum or the GW2 reddit.

Got links?

PaxTheGreatOne.9472:

As for dungeons: the Dungeon team was disbanded after the introduction of the aetherblade path in TA.
As for fractals: the Devs only reused content to make the newest fractals (these revamps used to be part of the instanced pieces of LS S1, no new content appeard after this. )

I sincerely doubt new dungeon being added ever as it stand now…. and I find raids an unworthy replacement. Though raids are the first new instanced (non-story) content… after the release of fractals and the TA aetherblade horror

I was just asking about this claim:

Inoki.6048:

Dungeons, as I’ve heard, are going to be completely removed, and the team behind them might’ve already been disbanded.

Is there some evidence you can provide that ArenaNet actually plans to remove dungeons?

That shouldn’t be a difficult question to answer if the claim is true.

Absent evidence, all that’s left is FUD.

Maladon.5760:

Argon.1563:

The TD meta has a 2 hour cooldown before it begins again, and my latest attempt at it lasted for 8 minutes and 18 seconds. I hadn’t even finished the first song in my music playlist before the event failed.

8 minute songs are pretentious, you deserved to fail for listening to that crap

* And with that, all the Yes fans in the thread humphed and stormed off with an air of ruffled indignation, turning their heads away so the others couldn’t see them bravely fighting back tears. *

William Bradley Knight.2609:

Sorry for the rambling. This is a lot longer post than I intended.

Refreshing and enjoyable nonetheless.

This event has been failing for years.

If you can fix it, that would be awesome.

Inoki.6048:

Majic.4801:

Inoki.6048:

Dungeons, as I’ve heard, are going to be completely removed, and the team behind them might’ve already been disbanded.

Where did you hear this?

In the game. Everybody’s talking about it. I think it was talked about on Reddit.

For something “everybody” is supposedly talking about, I’m not able to find anything written down via Google, the Dungeon forum or the GW2 reddit.

Got links?

Inoki.6048:

Dungeons, as I’ve heard, are going to be completely removed, and the team behind them might’ve already been disbanded.

Where did you hear this?

I think we all know what the problem really is…