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Man that looks boring.
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Shout warriors can pretty much neutralise burning.
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Focus would give you a lot more.
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TBH it feels like the same meta we had when the game launched. Handful of OP skills dominating.
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I find this happens a lot with this type of combat system. Even with LOL I will win lik 9/10 games then drop about the same. Its very streaky.
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Whats a shield?
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I’ll be living in an old age home before they balance this mess.
6+ months is a long time to tolerate the same problems.
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I agree burning is a huge problem. The current changes were poorly thought out.
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Please make more nerf mesmer threads.
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GW2 seems to have a lot more visual pollution than most other MMO’s. It seems unfixable.
It starts with the multiple pet class design, it continues with many abilities looking similar and/or having no tells, add in fancy spell effects and multiple stealthing and it is a real mess.
If you PvP a lot you probably predict and anticipate abilities more than react.
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They are sickenly op ATM.
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When a ‘high risk’ build has no risk because it can defeat anything before they can react, even less if they have a little bit over 200ms latency, that’s not a high risk build. It’s a broken build that must be addressed ASAP.
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This is the current problem.
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Yeah the game is perfectly balanced now that everyone plays glass cannon. We don’t need the complication of other play styles or actually fighting for more than 5 sec.
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I know. The balance team is hopeless.
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People are just exploding now. It’s insane.
Burning is out of control…. not just burning but damage of all sorts. I find even my own damage is crazy, but if anyone gets the jump on me I stand no chance at all.
GJ Anet… seriously you guys need to reconsider… all sorts of things.
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So either every single other profession will be nerfed in line with Guardian or Guardians will be buffed to be in line with every single other profession…. hopefully.
Lol you just said Guardians and buff in the same sentence.
I knew this would happen. Hence I will give Anet and the Expansion a pass. I seriously can’t pay money for this sort of sub par development.
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HoT Price Feedback + Base game included [merged]
in Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns
Posted by: Relentliss.2170
I would suggest Anet go ahead as planned but give people who already own the core game $50 in gems if they buy the expansion. Thus they reward their loyal customers but still make profits on the new game.
Tbh Anet seems to lack common sense.
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no.
not every class needs to be a jack of all trades; it’s a teamgame!
jesus christ – this is getting embarrassing……
Yeah but the alternative is what we have now, where the jack of all trades classes with mobility are chronically superior to other classes.
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I find GW2 more frustrating than fun and the differences in mobility are a main cause. It reduces build options, limits classes to certain roles, and really makes it so some classes feel like sitting ducks. I don’t see it kitten much a balance issue as a QOL issue.
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Spirit weapons need to be more reliable to have such harsh drawbacks… or they need to have these drawbacks cut down.
Agree 1000%….
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To resume,
-What’s your opinion about the mace, the shield, the hammer?
-Am i the only one who find these weapon boring?
Mace and hammer #1 third skill too slow
Shield garbage
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Even mobility
Access to a reliable slowing effect
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I can’t stress how much these three things hurt PvP
Limited builds
Perma stealth
Too much CC
Visual pollutionThere are three kind of people on the pvp sub forum:
Those who can count
Those who can’t
Doh……….
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I can’t stress how much these three things hurt PvP
Limited builds
Perma stealth
Too much CC
Visual pollution
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What worries me is the other classes revealed so far will all see a nice power gain through this expansion and we will take many small hidden nerfs to balance out our power gains. So we will essentially be the same while every other class gets boosted. This is the worrying predicament of HOT.
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There are plenty of build opportunities it’s just that some builds are more optimal than others.
A suboptimal build is not worth playing. So there are really 1 or 2 main builds per game mode with small variations on each. Which is pretty unacceptable.
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Relentless , you hate everything about the game and complain about everything universally so why should we be surprised your going to continue to add negative feedback and offer no real intellectual responses? If you would theory craft and stop complaining you could find something you enjoy.
And trap ranger works in anything below tourney lvl game play
Sorry for speaking honestly. I see no sense in saying X Y or Z is good if it is not.
On the other hand, I have seen how fanboi feedback, where people with concerns were shouted down by people like you, during various stages of beta and testing has lead to a lot of disasterous game decisions which has caused this game to fall from being a highly anticipated challenger to WOW to a ghost town.
You don’t go from having a full friends list with lots of people on line to one that is always empty without the developers royally screwing up.
I kinda hoped this expansion might make the game better but really it looks like more of the same silly fluff they’ve done for the last 3 or so years.
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Care to make some points as to why DH is inferior instead of saying it visually doesn’t appeal to you? Since you’ve played hybrid guardian before, 2k trap bleeds and 5k burn ticks sounds like it would apeal to you.
Traps?!?! Really how lame. They didn’t seem to work for Rangers why would they work for guardian? Not that I could use them anyways as I have to use my main skills for things like gap closers and healing, because I am slow as a turtle and have the health of a mosquito. So basically I got a bunch of new skills I will not be able to use because of the ingrained class faults.
As to the class itself. TBH bows would not be my first choice but I am fine with the decision. I just do not see anything exciting in the tree they have made for DH or much cross over to the other playstyles. Once you have gone DH you seem to have kitten whatever your other weapon is or your tankiness.
Your 5k burn ticks will last a month then be nerfed down to 500. Seriously, if a dot is taking 1/3+ of a person’s health how long do you think that will stay in a game? And if I am burning someone for 5k I can bet Eles and Engi’s will be burning for 25k. Everytime I find something Guardian does that is kinda cool it gets given to another class and they can do it much better. Burning is currently the most powerful damage, it does not need a pvp buff.
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Wish you guys would stop whinging about the name and instead help the Developers improve the actual concept or skills. It’s really a silly waste of time.
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It wasn’t meant to simulate high level play? Does that mean that it’s safe to assume that traps will be even more underwhelming against players that actually know how to play the game?
Yes………….
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So don’t play it problem solved for you and the people that want to play dh. I think the class looks great, I’ll play it. You don’t like it? Don’t play it. Everyone is happy
No it is problem compounded. The game has been very stale and Guardian the stalest and needs a boost. Anets solution – introduce an ineffective elite class that you can’t even play cause its so ineffective.
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Lol even worse than I expected. Gj Anet. Not sure you could have designed a more lame class if you tried.
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So after 3 years of waiting for an expansion this is the best you guys could come up with? A watered down version of a Trap Ranger? Really?
DH is a disgraceful elite class that is unappealing and not really going to do anything to bring players to either the class or the game.
How disappointing.
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I don’t think that’s a fair statement. Why is DH not an exciting, well though-out spec? Aside from continuing calls for 25% RS buff, it delivers many things people have asked for PVP-wise. From a PVE view, I don’t think we needed anything so the fact that any of the DH spec is even useful in PVE is just icing.
In my mind many of the elite classes are opening up powerful and different play styles for each class.
For guardian, I don’t see what is being offered in the expansion as powerful at all. If anything I see a whole new level of mediocricty being offered to us.
Nor does it feel interesting at all seeing as how you could just roll a ranger to do what the DH does.
The guardian elite class is more of an afterthought than a powerful new way of playing guardian.
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It’s ninja nerfs like this that will keep me from even trying the expansion.
Guardian was pretty average of late and has the most unappealing prestige class coming in the expansion… no ranger plays traps why would a guardian? If this expansion is trying to bring back lost players it is failing miserably.
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Dont make Dungeons Harder-More builds Viable
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Posted by: Relentliss.2170
b) Not stacking in corners is simply not feasible. Because there is no reliable aggro mechanic, and no reliable way to “tank” damage (due to limited blocks and dodges), fighting mobs becomes a chaotic mess. We’ve all been part of those fights where everyone is everywhere, no co-ordination, different mobs attacking different players, players getting downed all over the place. Combat is a mess unless you stack neatly in a corner and nuke everything. This isn’t the players’ fault for exploiting. From what it looks like to me, it seems as though there is no design intent when it comes to Dungeons. The players simply came up with the best system to combat an otherwise very disorderly and chaotic mess. I don’t know what Anet’s original design intent was, but I don’t think they intended for us to “not” stack in corners. It’s too chaotic if you don’t. This is why people ask for the Trinity back. Because at least there is order to the chaos with a Trinity.
I can not agree with anything more. The complete lack of a decent aggro mechanic leads to a chaotic mess. I don’t believe a Trinity is particularly necessary, but complete lack of an aggro mechanic has led to the current decline in the pve part of this game. I have never participated in ANY pve dungeon content online that is as poor as GW2 dungeons.
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The real issue is why are you using a shield? It is puss.
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Pathetic. Once again they push untested changes and are using the gaming populace as guinea pigs, and of course will sweep it under the rug.
Elite focus… 1 stack every 3 seconds? WTF? Is their brain in their head or up their kitten
Untested? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah no
Right, because this isn’t the first time they’ve made changes to the game without taking matters into context and always bug free so we should mindlessly accept everything without question. Oh, and I’m sure there’s some PTR right?
Meanwhile, I’d like to discuss something about actual game mechanics like those about Elite focus, but considering you’re not really capable of typing much besides two letters, we’ll just leave it at that.
I know a lot of people invovled with the PTR. The problem with the PTR is they only invite people who kiss their butt and anyone who tries to offer a negative comment gets shouted down by the fanboys already there. It serves little or no purpose besides finding a few bugs.
The problem is that over half the population plays ranged classes and wants to sit at range and bomb a way and let build and gear determine the winner. That is what we will now have in WvW with the current changes.
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The more info that is released the more disappointed I become.
Sadly, this team does not seem to know how to bring more fun to this game. IMHO they are listening to the wrong people. I would much rather have had them made the class system more like GW1 in the expansion with multi-classing and some new weapons than bringing in specializations. They seem to want to tell you how to play rather than let you discover how to play. This lack of discovery is why they have such low player retention.
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In one hand this change will make the stuns from warriors more usefull. Earthshaker +staggering blow removing 2 stab stacks. Making warriors better.
In the other hand stability becomes rarer to have. So we might have people running even more guardians to counter that. Line of warding and biding blades also getting better.
That’s exactly my thought on it. 3 guard groups now the new meta? Stack up groups with guards, everyone else will just range /shrug. Really doesn’t sound like a fun change for WvW.
No it will not be a fun change. WvW is pretty much dead. I see combat shifting to be more like Rift, where you have a blob of people simply ranging the other side. After a week people will get sick of it. Necro will be the new king of WvW. GWEN will just be NNEN.
SPVP will likely be pretty much the same as it is now. Revnant like a new LOL characer will likely be OP and be all that people run.
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Rip WvW
The future of WvW will be balls of people ranging each other, like every other MMO.
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Its like they had a meeting and said “How can we possibly make this game worse? We’ve tried everything else.”
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I can’t remember the last time players asked for the CC to be increased or made even more crippling. With CC so spammable Stability made the game somewhat playable.
The change makes no sense.
I’ve given up on this current Dev team.
Please read the thread before complaining. There are good reasons to think that this change will not affect spvp. Furthermore, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen this exact comment somewhere, so the laziness of this reply is beyond words.
I read the thread. TBH I don’t really want to be CC’d that much that I’d endorse any change that increased it. WvW would be practically unplayable for mele classes. And with all the spammable CC in Spvp it will be much of the same. No it won’t affect dueling, but it will affect anyone who is forced to do any sort of bunkering and draws the fire of more than one person.
I don’t see why they are wasting our time with this when there are so much more important issues to deal with.
If the pvp team was good, how did they manage to lose so many players?
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I can’t remember the last time players asked for the CC to be increased or made even more crippling. With CC so spammable Stability made the game somewhat playable.
The change makes no sense.
I’ve given up on this current Dev team.
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This does nothing to improve guardian at all. 2 years of the same issues. It gets tiring after a while.
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The Cd is garbage. You might have better luck with shield of the avenger. Triggering it is supposed to guve aegis.
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Guardians are about average but the game is in desperate need of an expansion. No matter what you are playing the whole thing is really stale. Guardian was stale long ago… And has had few changes… Guess its moldy now.
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Its more of a pvp weapon. Use sigil of intelligence. Port into people fighting. Pop 3. Bam.
Increasing the speed of the autoattack chain would make it much better.
Beserker rangers are easy as. Defenders Flame. Any blocking abilities you want. Bye bye. Condi and evasion rangers are much tougher.
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I prefer a bad dd over a bad staff ele… But a good staff over a good dd. They just dominate a point with so much damage.
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