Guild Wars 2

I think they should overhaul the water physics in the game and make open seas. Wind Waker / Assassins Creed Black Flag style- Let people traverse from Core Tyria to Elona and Cantha and to the other side of Orr and the Fire Isles. Big open gameplay space with player created ships, player created guild ships, and possibility of ship combat, normal combat on small islands, underwater, gliding off hidden islands.

It also opens up to fighting a lot of sea faring type character types; vikings, maruders, corsairs, luxons, harpies, naga, pirates and so on. Open seas with storms, thunder, rain. It could be a really sweet way to make a big gameplay space that is supposed to feel massive and not densely populated.

But it would require an overhaul of the water based physics, improvements to weather and a really tight form of navigating ships. probably a ship crafting profession (gonna need a lot of elder wood to build a guild ship probably).

If ArenaNet do a Cantha expansion, they could do some crossover outfits with the title Blade and Soul which is also under the NCsoft banner. A lot of really awesome looking outfits; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR-SUjkP4bk

I would love to be able to 3D-Print my characters so they would be immortalized:)

The game has such striking art. I think it would be really cool. WoW had a partnership with a company called figurecraft. They scan your character in a 3d model viewer program, and then 3d print it, and do some final touch-ups. Very cool.

There is something special about a figurine, of your character. It yours. There is nothing else like it, and you spend 1000s of hours finding the look and expression for it.

I need Grenth Hood:D

When is the One-Handed sword and dagger version getting into the game? That_shaman datamined them back in March I think!

I used to have the opinion that a console version compromises the PC version because it puts a limitation on what can be done with regards to updating the engine, the rendering when you always have to take a console version into consideration, but for whatever reason I have heard fantastic things about Final Fantasy XIV. Its been updated to Directx 11 and the game seems to be going from stride to stride, so maybe I have been dead wrong.

Many gamers fear changes that could potentially backfire. Console port feels like something that would have more to loose for the PC gamer than gain.

Samhaim.8956:

Sad Swordfish.9743:

Ardenwolfe.8590:

Huggywuggles.2814:

When people have been given three years of nothing but FREE updates and content and turn around and claim that they are OWED for their ‘loyalty’ when a product update is launched and costs money…I think the word (in the negative connotation) ‘entitlement’ is entirely deserved.

You are aware a lot of those people paid more in gem items, per month, than a subscription fee, aren’t you? Heck in some cases, some of our peers paid more, per month in gem store items, than the cost of buying the game.

How are they ‘entitled’ given your scenario?

First of all this is a flat out lie. GW2 isn’t even on the top 10 of games that made a profit from micro transactions ( http://www.polygon.com/2014/7/20/5920815/list-of-mmos-by-revenue-warcraft-old-republic )

And even if it was true, buying gems is completely unnecessary and optional. Because you chose to buy a unnecessary luxury, it does not mean you deserve anything. You paid for a thing, got a thing, that’s it. You are not awarded for your “loyalty” when you go buy milk at the grocery store are you? You knew what the deal was. Stop trying to martyr yourself. It’s embarrassing.

And stop with the lies too. Please. For the love of god.

Are new customers reward with 2 milk bottles when they go to the grocery store? because if so i think i might have been missing out on good stuff…
So stop with nonsensical analogies alright?
If they can give new customers a incentive to try out their game, why cant they do the same for old customers? Or if it was their plan all along to not give us a character slot, why not be open about it on the discussion thread that was made about that same subject instead of being evasive, it would at least give players a heads up and not making them hopeful?

You are wrong, because you assume that HoT is something you must have. You don’t. 10 Dollar value for core GW2 is massively good value.
Not everybody is going to be interested in paying 50 dollars for GW2 + HoT. You get hundreds – thousands hours of gameplay in core GW2, so stop making it sound like its an apple to apple comparisons.

The milk example was related to how outragous it is to expect to be compensated just for being a consumer. You are a consumer, nothing more, nothing less. You’re not entitled to retention based rewards. It makes no sense at all to expect that.
And again – WoW, EQ, HGL, TERA, Aion – The list of people who have bought games shortly before it went F2P is long. They lost out on a deal which essentially made the game free, but thats the way the market works.
And getting GW2 for 10 dollars is a massive steal compared to the people before that sale who paid 40 dollars. What about them?`You see, the entitlement goes around in circles like that if everybody keeps pointing fingers with jealousy and envy over who got the better deal. Someone will always get a better deal than you, and thinking that someone else gets something, is somehow your loss is crazy.

GW2 provides a free service. An optional service. And its being compared to monetary subscription games. The kitten is up with this irrationality?

Ardenwolfe.8590:

Huggywuggles.2814:

When people have been given three years of nothing but FREE updates and content and turn around and claim that they are OWED for their ‘loyalty’ when a product update is launched and costs money…I think the word (in the negative connotation) ‘entitlement’ is entirely deserved.

You are aware a lot of those people paid more in gem items, per month, than a subscription fee, aren’t you? Heck in some cases, some of our peers paid more, per month in gem store items, than the cost of buying the game.

How are they ‘entitled’ given your scenario?

First of all this is a flat out lie. GW2 isn’t even on the top 10 of games that made a profit from micro transactions ( http://www.polygon.com/2014/7/20/5920815/list-of-mmos-by-revenue-warcraft-old-republic )

And even if it was true, buying gems is completely unnecessary and optional. Because you chose to buy a unnecessary luxury, it does not mean you deserve anything. You paid for a thing, got a thing, that’s it. You are not awarded for your “loyalty” when you go buy milk at the grocery store are you? You knew what the deal was. Stop trying to martyr yourself. It’s embarrassing.

And stop with the lies too. Please. For the love of god.

Fernling.1729:

I think it’s cool that are trying to get new players to join and I don’t mind them rewarding them to do so.
As of now, I just don’t feel the expansion is worth $50. I’m going to buy it and be happy anyways because I’m excited for the revenant and the new specializations, but really think it should have been cheaper.

We don’t know the full extent of everything there is on offer. I feel the same as you, (and Wooden Potatoes) a concern that there will not be enough content – Hard challanging repeatable group content.
Even if these biomes are loaded to the brim with events, are average players going to take notice as they run through them? Sometimes I look at how newbies play Silverwaste, have a bad experience and never return.

Tigaseye.2047:

Sad Swordfish.9743:

Sirendor.1394:

This is not a matter of entitlement. It’s a matter of rewarding loyalty and being fair to people.

You couldn’t define entitlement more clearly if you tried. We’ve already abolished these arguments countless times. There is nothing unfair about any of this. A base product is being absorbed into another – The expansion is 50 USD with or without the base game. Its added to avoid cannibalization.

And the rewarding loyalty one is just crazy. The best way they can reward loyalty is to keep making the game great and keeping a service players want to use. Asking for a better deal on a product that does not even have a release date is pointless.

hibari.9836:

Frankly, there is no time when being told “X amount isn’t that much” isn’t going to cause bad blood, and that’s the case whether someone’s saying “$10 isn’t that much” or “150 gold isn’t that much” or “$50 isn’t that much,” because those are all relative and subjective statements. All of them are going to make people whose means are lower feel very slighted, dismissed, and judged.

What you are doing here is that you are trying to assert yourself as a victim in this discussion, removing personal sovereignty and responsibility on yourself. The fact that you are pulling a “everything is relative” statement speaks to this.

People are just telling you that you can go about it. One of my friends doesn’t play much it, but it is completely dooable and reasonable. The expansion doesn’t have a date. The Revernants full feature set has not even been shown yet. So there is time and options.
Im close to 10000 AP. They give you 400 gems for that for free, just for doing things in the game. Thats a half character slot right there. They might even do sales again with character slots off 25% if you want that. Or you can simply wait with buying the expansion until it comes down in price.

I think you’re missing the point.

It would be better if you just stopped calling people “entitled”.

It’s rude, frankly and on a forum that doesn’t tolerate rudeness, however mild and/or justified the person may have felt in being so, it is inappropriate.

That doesn’t mean you can’t hold your view, or disagree with other people’s views, but it would be better to just stick to the facts, rather than calling people names.

I think that is the point of the thread.

Listen, “entitled” is not a slur. It’s a word which basically means “someone who expects something”. That is essentially what entitled means. Trying to turn it into a rude word, or a dirty word or some other form of censorship is bad.

I’m entitled. You are entitled. We all entitled in our daily lives. The discussion, and what is so egregious is about what they are entitled about is fair. That’s essentially it.

Sirendor.1394:

This is not a matter of entitlement. It’s a matter of rewarding loyalty and being fair to people.

You couldn’t define entitlement more clearly if you tried. We’ve already abolished these arguments countless times. There is nothing unfair about any of this. A base product is being absorbed into another – The expansion is 50 USD with or without the base game. Its added to avoid cannibalization.

And the rewarding loyalty one is just crazy. The best way they can reward loyalty is to keep making the game great and keeping a service players want to use. Asking for a better deal on a product that does not even have a release date is pointless.

hibari.9836:

Frankly, there is no time when being told “X amount isn’t that much” isn’t going to cause bad blood, and that’s the case whether someone’s saying “$10 isn’t that much” or “150 gold isn’t that much” or “$50 isn’t that much,” because those are all relative and subjective statements. All of them are going to make people whose means are lower feel very slighted, dismissed, and judged.

What you are doing here is that you are trying to assert yourself as a victim in this discussion, removing personal sovereignty and responsibility on yourself. The fact that you are pulling a “everything is relative” statement speaks to this.

People are just telling you that you can go about it. One of my friends doesn’t play much it, but it is completely dooable and reasonable. The expansion doesn’t have a date. The Revernants full feature set has not even been shown yet. So there is time and options.
Im close to 10000 AP. They give you 400 gems for that for free, just for doing things in the game. Thats a half character slot right there. They might even do sales again with character slots off 25% if you want that. Or you can simply wait with buying the expansion until it comes down in price.

hibari.9836:

Sad Swordfish.9743:

You are completely wrong. God job on accusing me of “grinding dungeons” or telling you to play the game a certain way. It’s clear as day that you are not interested in listening to reasons, ankitten ot open to alternatives.

You can easily get the gold needed by not grinding, and just playing and having a good time. It’s telling that you are so fanatic about your own ways instead of listening to veterans who have more experience than you and who want to help you. Instead you shoot people down, accuse them with a hostile victimized toxic tone.

That reply wasn’t to a comment of yours? Unless you’re here on two different accounts, I guess.

But for the record, I listen to veterans who I know and who know me, and whose advice I therefore trust (because not all advice is good). I happen to live with a veteran player who has been playing GW2 since its pre-launch beta weekends and who played GW1 before that. I evaluate suggestions and take advice from people who say convincing things and whose advice seems sound. And you, sir or madam, simply have not said things that put you in that category.

I am referring to the post you made before directed at me:

hibari.9836:

Sad Swordfish.9743:

hibari.9836:

Smitten.3076:

Some of us truly have no idea why not getting a character slot/gems is an issue.

snip

He is not referring to deleting a character. He is saying why are you ignoring the option you have of simply converting 140-150 gold to 800 gems and buy your character slot with no real money? Nothing about that is unreasonable.

I’ve been playing this game for about six months. 140-150 gold represents 90% of the gold I have managed to get during the entire time that I have been playing the game!

Does that sound to you like it in any way honors the time and effort someone like me has put in? Please do not make the mistake of thinking that just because you’ve been playing the game for years or do frequent dungeon runs or because your coffers are full for whatever reason that 140-150 gold is a small or easy number for all of us. Please don’t make the mistake of thinking that everyone does (or should) play the same way that you do.

For many many players who’ve come to the franchise in the past few months—just long enough to start to get really invested in the game but not long enough that we’ve got cred as vets—that’s a big number. And we are really not the people you should be looking to alienate in this conversation.

Which basically is you painting a big brush over me, while simultaneously telling the other guy to stop acting like he is telling you how to play.
It is okay to say that you don’t like the alternatives offered, but that is not what you are doing. You’re throwing rocks after people, and pretending you know what they are about.
I don’t grind at all and it offends me that you are calling me out about that. It’s pretentious as hell.

Kury.8210:

“Entitlement” generally means the feeling that one is owed something. It is not always a bad thing, since in certain cases a person is “owed” something. However, the word is used more often negatively due to it being more memorable and just dang annoying coming from people who aren’t owed a thing.

As for who has an entitlement problem, there’s a pretty easy test. If someone is saying ANet owes them crap (like char slots) and is tossing out terms like “ANet’s got no right to do this,” that person has an entitlement problem. If a person is saying $50 is too much as is, but they’d get it if there was a bit more to it (like char slots), then there’s no entitlement problem. It’s the diference between demanding something and offering a deal.

I actually think people accusing others of not knowing what the word means tend to have that problem themselves. Of course, it might just be me having a hard time seeing how it would get misunderstood. Guess common sense simply isn’t that common.

What you are saying is true, and an acute observation.

If I buy a sandwich, I am entitled to having the sandwich. As you said, by this definition entitlement is just a state of expectations. But you’re seeing people trying drive a semantic argument about value. They are doing this because they want to take the discussion away from the elements that make them hypocritical;
1) That this is a common pratice in the MMORPG genre, and that it is not uncommon in many businesses to roll in a base product with a new product,
2) That they themselves got a sweet deal on GW2 out of nowhere, that people days before was cheated out off, thus there are people who paid 40 dollars the day before who have every right to drive the same argument at those that are complaining now.
3) Trying to start a discussion talking about veterans are one singular group who are owed something
4) pleading ignorance and deafness to the outrageous costs of game development, and taking all the back end systems that goes on behind the scenes, they don’t see as features and thus claim that they dont basically exist or are “worth it” because it doesn’t fit their idea of what a proper expansion should be.

hibari.9836:

Leo G.4501:

hibari.9836:

Sad Swordfish.9743:

hibari.9836:

Smitten.3076:

Some of us truly have no idea why not getting a character slot/gems is an issue.

snip

He is not referring to deleting a character. He is saying why are you ignoring the option you have of simply converting 140-150 gold to 800 gems and buy your character slot with no real money? Nothing about that is unreasonable.

I’ve been playing this game for about six months. 140-150 gold represents 90% of the gold I have managed to get during the entire time that I have been playing the game!

Does that sound to you like it in any way honors the time and effort someone like me has put in? Please do not make the mistake of thinking that just because you’ve been playing the game for years or do frequent dungeon runs or because your coffers are full for whatever reason that 140-150 gold is a small or easy number for all of us. Please don’t make the mistake of thinking that everyone does (or should) play the same way that you do.

For many many players who’ve come to the franchise in the past few months—just long enough to start to get really invested in the game but not long enough that we’ve got cred as vets—that’s a big number. And we are really not the people you should be looking to alienate in this conversation.

There’s many ways of obtaining gold. Once you play for a while, you start to have less and less things to spend gold on and you have to find ways to waste your gold. I know, when I was playing the game, I ended up wasting lots of gold on crafting. I still sometimes burn gold on crafting but I can also make gold through crafting.

If 150 gold is 90% of your entire income up to your 6 months of playing, it only gets worse and you only get more gold as time progresses…there’s always things in the game that straight up give you gems…

But all that aside, lots of people complain about grinding and while I can understand that it can suck, the thing is you can do so doing things you find fun. You can WvW, PvP or just explore the world and get gold. Putting a goal up for yourself is, like, the only thing there is in the current game that gives playing a purpose. Playing for a purpose helps motivate but despite that, playing for a purpose doesn’t have to be un-fun.

I’ll tell you now, if you set your goal to buy a character slot with in-game gold, it won’t take you that long and will feel like some sort of accomplishment to feel more happy about in the long run.

Let me reiterate since it did not come across the first time: Please don’t make the mistake of thinking that everyone does (or should) play the same way that you do. Also, please do not be condescending. Please do not try to tell me how to have fun or what my in-game goals or play style should be.

When I said that this is creating resentment and negativity in the community: congratulations! You are doing it! Whether or not you intend to, it is what you are doing right now with a comment like this!

I have a very clear sense of my in-game goals, thanks. I already have things that I am working towards (like full crafted sets of exotics for all of my characters—some of whom, I might add, I am still leveling or only just now got to 80—Mawdrey, particular bits of ascended gear, Vision of the Mists, etc. etc.). I don’t need you to tell me to play for a purpose.

But what you are really telling me is play for the purpose I think you should be playing for, not that you think you should be playing for.

And you know what, all this (as well as your earlier dismissive comments on the topic of grinding) aside, what ANet promised for GW2 from the point of their original manifesto was a no-grind philosophy. (See Colin Johanson’s “I swung a sword” dialog in the manifesto trailer.) The fact that you want to disregard that and tell players to grind like it’s a fact of life does not actually trump what the devs have promised this game to be. Sorry if I don’t think that your voice trumps theirs.

You are completely wrong. God job on accusing me of “grinding dungeons” or telling you to play the game a certain way. It’s clear as day that you are not interested in listening to reasons, ankitten ot open to alternatives.

You can easily get the gold needed by not grinding, and just playing and having a good time. It’s telling that you are so fanatic about your own ways instead of listening to veterans who have more experience than you and who want to help you. Instead you shoot people down, accuse them with a hostile victimized toxic tone.

I would rather have that I could convert the skins I lost and never managed to convert (bunny ears, gw2 cap, devils horns) to the new system:’( I wish we could go in the gem store and re-download all the skins we received for 3 over the last 3 years, but it only remembers your recent history. Shame!

DeadlySynz.3471:

Packaging the core game with HoT is redundant. When they announced HoT last time, did they not offer the core game for $10 (or in and around that time)?

Any new players who wanted to get in on the action would have already bought their accounts at $10 prior HoT even coming out. So this begs the question, did Anet know at that time they were going to package the core game in with HoT effectively screwing over all those new players who dropped $10?

Or is it a case of their marketing teaming having a brain fart in forgetting their company already offered the core game at $10 only a few months earlier?

It just doesn’t make sense (to me) to buy a product in anticipation of another product with so little about it was shown during the $10 sale from two months ago.

But primarily I don’t think it’s a given you would just get the expansion. I would much rather have $10 GW2 than buying the expansion for $50 today if I was a new player. I would learn the basics, level up, wait until the expansion went on sale. There are hundreds and thousands of hours of gameplay core GW2. By the time you’re ready for HoT you could scoop up a good deal presumable.
HoT doesn’t have a release date yet. Nobody knows when it is coming out. Everything rides on the challenging game content. Everyone in my guild is waiting for that specifically. Besides the revernant and the new specializations, that is the big draw, because dungeons/fractals/world bosses is what they spend a lot of their time doing today. It’s what the expansion is about for them. Not the new zones.

Also one thing I just love is how people act like victims they got GW2 for $10 during a sale. What about the people who paid $40 for GW2 the day before that sale started? they got screwed over much worse. where is the value in that? < it just proves that if everyone acted so hostile and toxic about everyone getting better deals than they themselves had it would be even more unbearable than it already is to listen to these villifications.
I’ve seen so little constructive feedback about what good etiquette and communication should be. I’ve only seen people being hostile and showing no good ideas how to make things better in the future. It reminds me a lot of the pathetic Left 4 Dead 2 fiasco( http://i.imgur.com/yLucX.jpg ). People talk big but really they are often just tactics to try and rile things up. It’s why you see a small but very vocal group of posters going on about this in every freaking thread.

phys.7689:

Sad Swordfish.9743:

I paid 143 gold for 800 gems. Now have a char slot Revernant. Pretty happy:)

Just letting folks know they can do that if they are frustrated they don’t have any slots left. I think its nice we have that option!
With silk being worth so much I made almost 300 gold by selling what I had in mah bank!

everyone can choose to work longer to pay for a higher cost. Thats doesnt really change the fact that you have to do it.

the gold you sold has a monetary value of around 11-12 dollars for anet.

But not for me. I can’t buy food or pay by bills with in-game gold I acquired playing and enjoying myself. So it’s not the same thing. Like at all.

Aidenwolf.5964:

Sad Swordfish.9743:

Aidenwolf.5964:

Ohoni.6057:

Then back away from the discussion, because I guarantee you right now that HoT will definitely not be of equivalent size to the launch game. If it is, I will buy you a copy myself. Given your ultimatum, you will not be buying HoT, so there’s no more reason for you to be participating in the discussion.

This is what I am referring to. There is no need for the other poster to refrain from posting. You can disagree.

The thing is though, that it is reaching a point were you are just repeating the same rehashed points over and over. You’re not bringing anything new to the table. You merely flipflop being stuck in your own semantics and notions about value is. Come on.
It’s so telling that you and a few others are literally hammering this down everyones throats. I’ve seen you in at least 30 threads going on about this. It’s annoying.

People get it. They get it. Now move on, and let the chips fall where they may. You’re putting a serious damper on constructive discussions with your non-constructive vilification and conspiracy theories. It’s childish.

I’m acting childish? I’m spreading conspiracy theories? Quite the opposite actually, but since we’ve never conversed I won’t mind that it won’t happen again.

I’m not going to dig through your posts to undermine you. You have your opinion and view of things and that is fine, but I feel you are clogging up almost every thread, posting the same things, and it feels like spam.
It feels like it stifles communication to me when the same thing is being repeated. I mean look at even your signature. Your coming at this like some hardcore radical activist.

hibari.9836:

Smitten.3076:

Some of us truly have no idea why not getting a character slot/gems is an issue.

Whatever your opinion on deleting characters to make new ones, you must remember that that is a totally subjective matter that is going to feel like a much bigger slight to some people who care about the characters they have made in different ways than you might. (For those who do some roleplay, for example, characters make up individual elements of ongoing stories about which they care deeply.)

What’s factually true, however, is that ANet promised something to players at the PAX South announcement of HoT. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxLkfXwxLTs from about 16 minutes in). Within the first minutes of the announcement, Mike O’Brien had said that they did not want to produce an expansion that “invalidates all the work that you’ve put in to your existing characters” by forcing anyone to grind for higher level gear or to reach a raised level cap.

By ANet’s own words, then, spoken in the spirit of their original game manifesto, they wanted to honor the time and effort players have put into their characters thus far, even as the expansion was released. Asking anyone to delete a character in order to gain access to the expansion’s offerings obviously flies directly in the face of that.

And frankly, I think that seeing that suggestion glibly thrown around by some players is doing a tremendous amount to undermine the sense of friendliness and good will in the community—it creates bitterness and anger between us all by making it seem that some players want others to sacrifice their effort, time, and imaginative/emotional energies, while not acknowledging that they themselves would be outraged if it was suggested that they deleted something from their accounts that they had worked hard for and cared about.

If you want to understand why not getting a character slot is such a big deal, then think about some element of your account that you’ve worked hard to get and really care about, and think about how you would feel if it was suggested that you should have it stripped from your account and that you were acting “too entitled” if that upset you or you said it was unfair.

He is not referring to deleting a character. He is saying why are you ignoring the option you have of simply converting 140-150 gold to 800 gems and buy your character slot with no real money? Nothing about that is unreasonable.

Aidenwolf.5964:

Ohoni.6057:

Then back away from the discussion, because I guarantee you right now that HoT will definitely not be of equivalent size to the launch game. If it is, I will buy you a copy myself. Given your ultimatum, you will not be buying HoT, so there’s no more reason for you to be participating in the discussion.

This is what I am referring to. There is no need for the other poster to refrain from posting. You can disagree.

The thing is though, that it is reaching a point were you are just repeating the same rehashed points over and over. You’re not bringing anything new to the table. You merely flipflop being stuck in your own semantics and notions about value is. Come on.
It’s so telling that you and a few others are literally hammering this down everyones throats. I’ve seen you in at least 30 threads going on about this. It’s annoying.

People get it. They get it. Now move on, and let the chips fall where they may. You’re putting a serious damper on constructive discussions with your non-constructive vilification and conspiracy theories. It’s childish.

Zanshin.5379:

Some people don’t buy anything on the cash shop. Obviously these people are pretty happy to “only” pay 50$ now.

For veterans like me who have actually supported the game by buying hundreds of dollars worth of gems during those last 3 years (so basically the people Anet should be trying to keep), it is pretty disheartening to see how they just seem to not care about us.

a 350+ development staff has kept the game updated with new features and content completely for free for 3 years. You don’t see the disconnect in what you are saying?

Add to the fact, that unlike other MMOs, you don’t have to buy HoT. You really, really, really don’t. Just like GW1 they are not baiting you into doing it. You won’t be kitten by a level cap increase or more powerful gear.

You can even take advantage of many of the gameplay systems and features that was developed for HoT, which benefits all players – base and expansion players, because they can’t segregate the community.
You can use things like the new spvp game mode, the new wvw map, the specialization rebalancing and the feature set of the guild halls and so on.

If you don’t buy the expansion for FFXIV or WoW or SWTOR, you are screwed. you will be left behind with the level cap increase and added weapons. Many of my friends didn’t buy all the campaigns for GW1 because they didnt see the point. They had the core experience and didn’t see the value in the other campaigns. They weren’t baited into buying it. That is awesome compared to what most MMO developers are doing.

Ashen.2907:

Sad Swordfish.9743:

Ashen.2907:

I bought a character slot back shortly after launch.

I still think the expansion should come with one.

Well, I think it’s nice they give the option to get it without paying money. I’m really grateful for all the things this game has given me for the last 3 years <3

For me at least paying with time for something that I believe should be part of the package isnt particularly more palatable than paying with money. I have spent a significant amount of money on the game and would be willing to continue to do so jnder the right circumstances. Its not about the cost for me.

Well, some people look at what others have with envy and jealousy, others are just happy at what they got, when looking at the larger picture.

I’ve spend over 2K hours on this game. Best 60 USD I have spend in a a very long time. I just don’t see the contempt or malice or conspiracy theory, haha.:)

Ashen.2907:

I bought a character slot back shortly after launch.

I still think the expansion should come with one.

Well, I think it’s nice they give the option to get it without paying money. I’m really grateful for all the things this game has given me for the last 3 years <3

I paid 143 gold for 800 gems. Now have a char slot Revernant. Pretty happy:)

Just letting folks know they can do that if they are frustrated they don’t have any slots left. I think its nice we have that option!
With silk being worth so much I made almost 300 gold by selling what I had in mah bank!

Savior.5783:

Sad Swordfish.9743:

Knighthonor.4061:

Wow seriously. .this is getting out of hand. Anet say something… release some info…. do something. …stop with the silent treatment. …

No. Do not do this. Do not give into whining, unreasonable demands and internet bullying.
It’s like a weak parent giving their kid toys and candy to shut them up. People should vote with their wallets if they don’t find value in the product. There is no excuse for all this insanity. We are way past a meaningful dialogue and ArenaNet should have no patience for their intolerance and hate.
I’m not a dev, but these people are ruining the game for me. 5-6 people were spamming the teq chat, whispering people to sign some stupid petition to boycott GW2 and go play FFXIV. It’s pathetic.

Yes, do not give many of your consumers who are the source of a part of your income any attention. Real smart.

Bullying can be justified, and the vast majority of people against HoT aren’t bullying Anet.

Bullying cannot be justified. Stop with the victim blaming.

Nobody said about anything about not giving anyone attention. Stop trying to shove this down everyones throat like you are being ignored. Its a piece of entertainment that is constantly being pandered to you with free stuff. Last week and this week. Be grateful.

Knighthonor.4061:

Wow seriously. .this is getting out of hand. Anet say something… release some info…. do something. …stop with the silent treatment. …

No. Do not do this. Do not give into whining, unreasonable demands and internet bullying.
It’s like a weak parent giving their kid toys and candy to shut them up. People should vote with their wallets if they don’t find value in the product. There is no excuse for all this insanity. We are way past a meaningful dialogue and ArenaNet should have no patience for their intolerance and hate.
I’m not a dev, but these people are ruining the game for me. 5-6 people were spamming the teq chat, whispering people to sign some stupid petition to boycott GW2 and go play FFXIV. It’s pathetic.

In our guild chat yesterday we had a heated discussion about peoples favorite (and least favorite zones) in the game and it turned out to be very diverse as to what people liked.

People had strong feelings about Silverwaste, and seemed either upset or happy that the HoT zones will work in similar fashion.
Some people in our guild love that everything you do in the zone leads up to a big meta event, while others found it boring citing that the randomness of the more classic zones in the game that has more rare events popping up.

I’m on the fence because I think every zone should have long term goals like trying to unlock armor set. Silverwaste lets you unlock both a normal (Carapace) and a pimped out version (Luminescent). If every zone had a armor / pimped armor associated (or rather 3 armors. Light, Medium, Heavy) I think many zones like Timberlane Falls and Lonars Pass would have a lot more action. That would be really cool. But 25 zones x3 armors is a lot of new armors.

What sort of zone design do you prefer and why?

What sort of gear am I looking at? Can I remain in Berserker gear and use some healing power runes?

Is a build like this still viable? I remember it was big back in 2012 but I havent heard a lot about it lately.. I was thinking about crafting my ascended armor as cleric, but everyone seems to go Berserkers.

I am looking to make something viable for WvW, and PvE. (not Dungeons).

We had a interesting discussion in my guild last night about armor designs.

We’ve seen people have many different opinions on armors (and outfits, more recently).

Are Warriors and Guardians going to have access to the Revernant Blind-fold armor? does it take away from that professions “look” if the other classes can access that? Is it a dangerous path to go down towards profession-locked armors?

Some people feel that the best looking armors for Charrs and Asura are their race-locked cultural armors, because they where made for them – Do you want fewer armors of overall higher quality that fits each race, or do you want everything to be mix and match?

With specializations, we are getting sub classes, and some specializations comes with their own themes. For a Ranger to be a Druid, should there be druid-looking exclusive armor? will it be okay if thiefs and engineers can equip those druid medium armor? should regular rangers have access to it?

Given what we know, what we have seen in the past two years, I wonder if designing armors is a major headache for ArenaNet? They have no problem putting out a tons of weapons, and right now, on the TP, there is a lot of skins of all sorts of varieties and styles that comes from 70 gold – all the way to around 1000. There is a lot of stuff there.

But with armors, every model has to fit each of the five races, multiplied with the gender, which means that each armor set requires considerable (?) work by hand, sculpturing and texturing across 10 different character models, which all scales in height and all have different “bodytypes”. With the addition of a massive color hue dye spectrum, I am beginning to wonder if Outfits where an act of desperation?

They ´have said in the past that it was due to clipping, and that is probably true? is that why we have not seen cloaks, capes or hooded back-piece robes? is it physics related? is it clipping? does it create problems with displaying the unequipped weapon on your back, when you’re not fighting?

TL;DR :;There is a lot of things to speculate on, but if you worked at ArenaNet, and you where in charge of the direction of armor design in GW2, in the expansion and in the general live game, what direction would you take it in? How would you do it? Do you prefer the achievement hellfire/radiant unlock way? the caprice style of working towards an entire set? or the entire path it took to craft the backpiece mawdrey?

Would you pool more resources from the people making outfits and weapons and just use them for general armors? if it meant you could produce twice as many armors, if you reduced the customization levels of dye, would you do it? if you could churn out armors faster if they where race locked would you do that?

What changed? They’ve said in the past that Combat Mod was okay because it does not affect game performance by giving an advantage!

I’m thinking of buying a Alienware 13 as I need an extremely portable and small laptop. It looks really awesome, but I am wondering how taxing the “Intel® Core™ i7-4510U Processor (Dual-Core, 4MB Cache, up to 3.1GHz w/ Turbo Boost)”

How taxing is it going to be since it is an Ultra Low Wattage Processor? Since it only uses 15 Watts, instead of 35 Watts of normal computer CPUs, I wonder how much weaker it is. I’ve never owned a ULV laptop before, only Dual and Quadcores.

http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-13/pd?ref=PD_OC

This CPU is a Haswell, and I heard that the Broadwell CPUs are coming out soon. I don’t know if the ULV variants will offer anything substantial in performance? Anyone else who have had experience with ULV CPUs and GW2?

I think it should me a meta gameplay option.

end result is just collecting skins, and thats fine, but it would be fun if there was permanence to the world than just doing events that swings on a pendulum between failed and succeeded.

If the areas of the game could be taken over by guilds, if players could compete for soverignty over the worlds areas. then there would be some PvE competition. I feel that World vs World too would be more fun if it was more permanent. but people give up castles for a few karma and gold. its too bad that often winning a keep is not more significant!

Yeah.. two of my friends left the game and went back to WoW because of lack of duels. I asked them why they just didnt pvp? Apparantly they didnt enjoy the competitive aspects of WvW and sPvP.

“in duels you don’t die. its not serious. you are just having fun”.

I don’t know. I think duels would be cool but there should be an auto-ignore option!

Jon Petersen during the last beta event; http://i.imgur.com/YuLDmMQ.jpg

They now have support for 1 vs 1, but as you can read they also want to add support for dueling in-world.

Where is her Katana??? I NEED HER KATANA!!

How was it short? It took me significantly longer than the other episodes. It had much more variety. Good champ trains in Frostgorge, significant character interactions with major NPCs, good dialogue (the bits with taimi) and good use of different parts of the world in building the backpiece.
I only just started and had to revisit old jumping puzzles I haven’t done for almost 2 years and other places I had completely forgot about.

Also, there was a significant amount of new NPC dialogue with minor characters to highlight the new events. Updating the old maps is as significant as making new ones.

While it’s frustrating when it doesn’t work, I actually think that doing the least amount of instancing in the Living Story/Personal Story is better. Instancing has nothing to do with what I think MMORPGs are all about – Connecting with other people.

What I think makes it weird is that the major zerg fests were people are so busy making the events in time nobody has time to look at all the changes – In Ascalon, in Hoelbrak, there were new NPCs, new voice acting for backdrop characters. Lots of cool stuff, but I just noticed everyone rushing to make the events in time because people don’t want to wait or risk it getting broken.

This is really too bad. But what open world events give us is a progression in the world. Kessex Hills is forever changed, hopefully in two weeks time, the Norn and Charr starting zones will also feel different. Like they are entering a new chapter. The world is moving forward, all the zones are being updated to reflect on that Zhaitan has been beaten and Modremoth is the new threat. Time to retire the Svanir and Ghosts a bit.

A changing living world is what it’s all about. Instancing ignores all these things.

The only problem is the zerg aspect. When I did the event today, there was only 10 of us in the Ascalon portions of the events, and it worked perfectly. Felt right, tight and great. It just doesn’t feel right or tight with 80-120 players though. Difficulty, lag, skill latency, low framerate. It’s just too many people for these types of events.

So I say yes; More open world, but it would be better if the story could spread people out wider apart. If we need to do an event, can’t we sent randomly to 4-5 different maps to do the same activity? Or maybe simply choose one of multiple destinations within the same map?
So if we need to help a guard with fighting Mordrems the player can go to a couple of different places! That way you can at least spread up the players and make the experience more comfortable.

Lastly; I know some people say they want instancing because they want it to be “their story”. They want to be the main hero and all other players are just breaking the immersion.
I never liked this argument. I think the player character should be a significant foot soldier in the war, but not the hero. there are many nameless heroes and bands of fighters, and it has to be that way in a MMO connotation. It’s not even like it makes a story more interesting by all the NPCs referring to the player character as some god-like superman infallible being. That’s boring. It’s much more interesting playing a character with a sense of urgency and vulnerability. All of that relate-ability to me flies out the window once the game treats me, the player character as some god.

Not to mention it is basically in every single player video game that the player character is the dude who saves the world. Its superman syndrom. It’s boring, its childish and you don’t feel the threat of the world at all.

Khal Drogo.9631:

OMNIBUS.2913:

Khal Drogo.9631:

Which is the same as burger flippers earning a Masarati through hrs of their labor vs say a Youtuber screaming his way to millions? I mean both are earning RL$ right and not inherited; just that one earns exponentially more than another to the point of several dozen lifetimes worth of labor. Is this equal? I mean neither are really particularly high skilled jobs.

The burger flipper will never have a chance to own a Masarati if not for lotteries no matter how many hours he or she put in. But go ahead take away that one in a million shot. I am sure Mr Omnibus as principled as he is in video games would donate the bulk of any windfall to charity in real life.

The burger flipper chose to be a burger flipper though. Your acting like it was his destiny to flip burgers. Maybe in 3rd world countries this makes sense. But people who can play gw2 can do better for themself if they try. And I’m not argueing about anything but pure rng. What your example is referring to is regular rng. Anyone in real life can get lucky but they can also use reliability to succeed :p

Yup better to be a millionaire Youtuber right? Pretty sure there are many burger flippers in “First World” nations as well who didnt choose to be burger flippers.

So RNG is ok? thanks.

I don’t think you are doing anything but digging yourself into a hole with these analogies.

I just checked TP. The Ley Line weapons are now down to 70g. That’s nice. You can get a weapon in a few days by just playing the game, doing the events, selling your rares and exotics.

I don’t have to think the black lion weapons are enticing, but most rational people should be able to realize with the upkeep costs they have, and the amount of staff they have, they simply need to make it lucrative for people to attain these cosmetics in a way that makes them profit.

I really hope so! It would be nice if she would give the Katana to the player as a reward! Though I am afraid it might be wishful thinking hehe;-(

EmZiom.1836:

Hello, I bought gw2 long long time ago. More specifically I preodered it. And I was very very very VERY disappointed with:
-crashes
-empty servers
-no end game
-grind all the time (80 lvls?? Come on in gw1 there were 20. I could hit max lvl in 3 hours. In gw2 its much much longer)
-crafting – also grind
-dumb login procedure (every time I had to login onto my mail, I still have to)
-support not responding for tickets
-Boring classes (skills – small amount and all almost same [deal x dmg] )
-5x Guardian team so op
-No level scalling (80lvl character in 30lvl area is still stronger than 30 lvl character there)
-Gem shop news all the time
-Insane server structure (gw1 districts ftw)

So my question is:
Is anything improved right now? Or I have to wait for Guild Wars 3?
Or just play gw1 – best mmo ever made.

Probably this thread will be deleted so gg arenanet.

If not – Wow You can deal with some criticism? Awesome.

Thanks For Answers.

Wow. gem shop news all the time ohh life must be tough for you. Having to live with such outlandish annoyances.
It’s weird you enjoyed GW1 so much then. That game had some serious design flaws, like copy pasted skill sets that favored quantity over quality. hmmm. I guess rose-tinted glasses are really a powerful thing haha.

SnowHawk.3615:

What do you call it when a Norn throws a Sylvari?

Tossing the salad.

golf clap

haha

I think this is two different discussions:

1) A disucssion about lack of new armor designs in general.

2) PvP exclusive tournament rewards

I think most people are okay with tournament winners getting their own unique skins, but they just feel that there could have been made more armors overall.

Mac.3872:

The ability to sell dungeon paths causes nothing but trouble. Either the buyer gets scammed or the seller gets ‘grieved’. Best solution would be to remove it from the game entirely, for the sake of a more pleasant community.

I believe in enabling players. I’ve used dungeon sellers before and I have only had good experiences. In one case, Lupus bugged on Arah Path 4, so it took more like an hour, but we still got it and the owner honored our deal.

I’ve flushed down a lot of gold trying to get a good all-around build for my Necromancer, but I have not been able to find anything effective. I hope you can help.

I am looking for:

1) Something that can survive in PvP and PvE. Perhaps some effective lifestealing?

2) Something that has Dagger/Dagger and Staff as secondary weapons < It’s because these weapon sets are the most fun for me to use. I know people say use Warhorn/Axe/Scepter, but I enjoy these the most for gameplay.

3) Something that doesn’t use pets of any kind at all.

I have no idea what to do with traits and runes. I just wasted all my gold on some berserker armor and scholar runes and I just can’t make it work. Necromancer frustrates me with all it’s lingo and slang for all the builds!

First of all,

I am really sorry you had a bad experience. It really sucks when players are trying to ruin other peoples fun on purpose.

ArenaNet tries very hard to avoid this. In fact, much of the PvE design was created with this context – Including the Dungeon party design. In your case it was unfair that you got kicked out, but from another point of view, is it the system that is really unfair?

Fortunately what you are describing have never happened to me, but in other MMOs that I have played, I have often found myself in a group of people were the group leader (or group creator) acted like a jerk who bossed everyone around because he could kick people at random.

I don’t think GW2 wants to foster that sort of community. But what you are describing is a problem, and I feel that a problem with dungeons in GW2 in general is not being able to keep your own instance open if you get kicked out, accidently teleport out or get a game crash or lose connection. You should have been able to get back in without it resetting. It is after all your instance.

I don’t think ArenaNet shuns people who want to make money of Dungeon runs. I think it’s a really cool meta game in itself, but the game was obviously not created for that. When I worked towards Dungeon Master title, I bought 2 of the Arah Paths for a couple of gold each, and in those transactions I had to trust that the guy doing the run would not just kick me after receiving the money.

Fortunately, between getting a bad rep, and the real threat of getting banned being reported I think most people are detteriated from it. Which brings me to my final question: Is it possible that the guys who kicked you for no reason didn’t know what they are doing?

The Dungeon Finder system is still in beta and believe it or not, some people are really confused by it. It’s kind of hidden away, and has some strange workings!

Dusty Moon.4382:

Sad Swordfish.9743:

Dusty Moon.4382:

Sad Swordfish.9743:

I think a lot of people would end up disappointed with an “under water” expansion.

Why not above Water? Kryta, Elona and Cantha are all connected via coastlines, so why not do like Assassins Creed 4 Black Flag / Zelda The Wind Waker, and make player controlled ships?

Not only would it be easy to create a massive open world sea, full of optional under water combat, but you could also easily add new islands through the living story. Plus, having your own private ship could be the alternative to regular mounts!
My fear with Elona is that the sand theme and the deserts will become a too repetitive theme. Not only that, but having to deal with the undead army in that region, might be hitting too close to what we fought in GW2 already with Zhaitan being the “undead” dragon.

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Would it make more sense if they added parts of Cantha and parts of Elona in one single expansion? Vigil goes to Elona, Order of Wispers go to Cantha, and Durmond Priory goes to the northern Shiverpeaks?

If they are going to branch the storyline, will they keep the 3-way system? I suspect the personal story of all the races became too much for them to do.

Cantha is not connected to Elona or Kryta as this map shows – http://zoom.it/TWLx#full or this link is better http://ectos.darkbb.com/t3340-maps-of-tyria-then-gw1-now-gw2

Cantha is cut off from the rest of Tyria and as such we probably won’t be going there if all in GW2. Maybe in GW3….

Ships!!! We need air ships! The Zeyprithines will take us!

They are all or mostly dead. Kind of like the dwarves……

We can rebuild them. We have the technology.

Dusty Moon.4382:

Sad Swordfish.9743:

I think a lot of people would end up disappointed with an “under water” expansion.

Why not above Water? Kryta, Elona and Cantha are all connected via coastlines, so why not do like Assassins Creed 4 Black Flag / Zelda The Wind Waker, and make player controlled ships?

Not only would it be easy to create a massive open world sea, full of optional under water combat, but you could also easily add new islands through the living story. Plus, having your own private ship could be the alternative to regular mounts!
My fear with Elona is that the sand theme and the deserts will become a too repetitive theme. Not only that, but having to deal with the undead army in that region, might be hitting too close to what we fought in GW2 already with Zhaitan being the “undead” dragon.

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Would it make more sense if they added parts of Cantha and parts of Elona in one single expansion? Vigil goes to Elona, Order of Wispers go to Cantha, and Durmond Priory goes to the northern Shiverpeaks?

If they are going to branch the storyline, will they keep the 3-way system? I suspect the personal story of all the races became too much for them to do.

Cantha is not connected to Elona or Kryta as this map shows – http://zoom.it/TWLx#full or this link is better http://ectos.darkbb.com/t3340-maps-of-tyria-then-gw1-now-gw2

Cantha is cut off from the rest of Tyria and as such we probably won’t be going there if all in GW2. Maybe in GW3….

Ships!!! We need air ships! The Zeyprithines will take us!

GuzziHero.2467:

We’ve given feedback. When will the team listen to us and/or answer our concerns?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Game-Updates-Guild-World-Events-Megaservers-WvW/first
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Game-Updates-Traits/first
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Feedback-Questions-MegaServer/first
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Megaservers-and-RP/first

Now, I don’t expect developers to rush in and answer every little nit-picky complaint and issue, but these threads contain thousands of posts including everything from sarcastic comments, to real solutions to many of the issues raised by the April patch.

For me, the total lack of recognition shown regarding these problems is just killing my enthusiasm for the game. I am sure there are many others like me.

Can we please have at least one post saying “We have read and are looking into the issues raised”? I don’t know how much longer I can hold on to GW2 in the hopes of an improvement.

I think you are being unreasonable. Thousands of players with different opinions. Yet you speak like everyone wants the same things. That’s not how it is.

Secondly, ArenaNet discloses information until it’s ready to be revealed to reduce the chance of a dissappointed player base who claim they have been “lied too”.

In game development, things change. Sometimes things that look great on paper ends up getting scrapped. Entire gameplay systems or features or content gets removed. Sometimes it’s better not to tell players about these things as they will become disappointed.

Also I have played MMOs, where the developers auto-response was always “we’re looking into it”, “we want to do that” and then 3-4 years later still nothing.

What I think you need to look at, is what they actually have produced. Content, fixes and additions to the game. I personally believe they listen more to the majority of players than any other MMO developer I have been with.

It is wrong to assume that they don’t listen because they don’t confirm every day. If you don’t enjoy the game, take a break until you are excited about playing it today, not having illussions about the grand fixes you want them to make tomorrow.

The game is as good as it is. Why would you expect it to be better? They clearly did the best they could, they are clearly trying to do better, and they are clearly not phoning it in, so why are your enthusiasm diminished?

Isn’t that like being mad over when it rains? No it shouldn’t rain, but that’s life. No need to be upset. Just enjoy it. It makes me sad when I see MMO players who can’t enjoy the game at this moment because it has flaws. There will always be flaws. It will never be perfect or good enough. The trick is to enjoy it right now, and just be grateful for that. Then you will appreciate the other improvements later so much more.

This pretty much relates to everything. And I feel preachy because I myself too, am bad at living in the moment. So I need to learn from this as well. Stay Calm and Believe in Anet OP!

I think a lot of people would end up disappointed with an “under water” expansion.

Why not above Water? Kryta, Elona and Cantha are all connected via coastlines, so why not do like Assassins Creed 4 Black Flag / Zelda The Wind Waker, and make player controlled ships?

Not only would it be easy to create a massive open world sea, full of optional under water combat, but you could also easily add new islands through the living story. Plus, having your own private ship could be the alternative to regular mounts!
My fear with Elona is that the sand theme and the deserts will become a too repetitive theme. Not only that, but having to deal with the undead army in that region, might be hitting too close to what we fought in GW2 already with Zhaitan being the “undead” dragon.

Would it make more sense if they added parts of Cantha and parts of Elona in one single expansion? Vigil goes to Elona, Order of Wispers go to Cantha, and Durmond Priory goes to the northern Shiverpeaks?

If they are going to branch the storyline, will they keep the 3-way system? I suspect the personal story of all the races became too much for them to do.