Guild Wars 2

The NPC’s in the Mists hit like trucks now. I have literally not changed a single thing in my PvP build since pre patch and I find the NPC’s are demolishing me. The thief’s unload will actually down me in one channel if not almost. I say this because If I evade most of the shots, she’ll just do another unload which will guaranteed bring me down (half of the shots from one, half from the other, I can assume a full unload chain will down me, and considering how fast the projectiles are…) The guardian hit me with a Binding Blade for 5k once, the necromancers just rips your health away from you when he gets downed as does the warrior, but the necro moreso. But dear almighty the worst of all of them is the engineer, getting pelted with shots that do half my total hp in damage, and to top if off, blunderbuss.
Idk if something changed or not but my toughness is 2k and I feel like I’m fighting with like 100 hp against these guys when I had no problems before testing out a little build to get the grasp of it before going into actual matches.

The only yell I like is when using Jade Wind: “AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHAHAHAHA”
But I really like Mallyx’s dialogue when not growling: “Now I shall feast upon their anguish!” “Now they will witness true ultimate power!”

Cynz.9437:

man, looking at all this posts one would assume stealth lasts like 3 hours and backstab hits for 17k dmg + thief in stealth is invulnerable and has stability

what kind of build is it? i want it O.o

It’s that 30/30/30/30/30 build that’s out didn’t you hear?

As an avid thief user I have to say I am peeved. Royally peeved. The post game META, especially including but not limited to, warriors makes us appear as some kind of monolith. WE ARE NOT A MONOLITH. Thieves come in all shapes and sizes (give or take a couple human female T3 cultural short white haired variants). A whole slew of strategies implemented. You don’t see me complaining about the 3k with each swing axe warriors do followed by an eviscerate of at least 8k. They just see thief and automatically get the PRTSC button ready and the QQ on the forums.

Stand afk in LA or DR

Jinroh.4251:

Can we have different sitting emotes? Kinda tired of my female characters lounging about all seductively.

I would also like an emote for them actually standing up and not just springing up. I think that would be nice. Oh and now everyone who reads this is breathing manually.

Do sylvari have toes? It seems like sometimes they do and other times they don’t, like it looks rounded on top, but the glow on bottom hints at toes

Bazzoong.7145:

They say that among all the illusterious practitioneers of the craft the name of Slith stands supreme. I dare to disgree. I say that Slith lived in easier times and that the manner of his death has given him a mystical aura that was not matched by his skill.
The pinacle of the craft is represented by none other than Nuth. Of all the many arguments supporting that I will mention only one. Even in this modern day and age of competition and reason Nuth does not have to advertise the services he offers…

Mercurias.1826:

...What is this I don’t even

Look, if Thief isn’t the top of the pile right now, that’s because it spent the majority of the game there and is still a viable setup in a lot of situations. It’s biggest problem before was that, agility aside, it was total glass. The devs gave it a lot of additional sustain plus skills for interrupting and finishing enemies off.

Could thief use a power bump? Yeah I could see it. The game meta is pretty constantly evolving, however, in order to try and prevent things from becoming stale. It isn’t some kind of...Whatever your post was about. It’s changing things up.

I don’t think a power bump is what we need, maybe for staff but, I’ve been hitting pretty kitten hard lately with pack runes in sPvP at least, D/P. Yeah SD doesn’t hit as hard but it was never meant to be bursty anyway. The problem I think is how hard we are getting hit with other classes and their power creeps. Warriors lately are ticking me off since they just use any skill that’s off of CD and hit me with it doing a third of my HP, regardless of my constant blinding. We need something in terms of survivability, imo but feel free to disagree

HA my point about the dreadlocks rose above all!! DREADS

Redscope.6215:

When it makes it in, the scythe will be a war, nec, mes weapon… that’s my prediction.

Okay if warrior gets scythe and not thief, that will be the mark to make me quit this game

Stormcrow.7513:

If it is sellable it will be 1000 gold. You will have to do teq 100000 times to get a .001 chance of getting it. Save your gold!

Gamblers Fallacy, you could do Tequatl 10000000000 times, doesnt mean your chance is getting any better, the drop rate is individual…..

Well, from a console gamer (yes I also play the Souls Games and Bloodborne) this was my first PC game ever. In console games where some sort of class has been able to be choosed, I’ve always been the one to choose the swift, and often by association, assassin type character. Even in Skyrim, I duel wielded daggers and/or swords and wore Dark Brotherhood attire. So a friend of mine convinced our group to “try” this game out. Mind you I was really reluctant as I had never really played PC games before. They literally told me there is a class in this game I would like (Thief) where there were other classes they enjoyed. So I caved in finally and got the game.

Now for most of you, you just had to learn to play the class. I had to learn how to play with a keyboard, mouse, type responses really fast, all that PC jazz. So while learning the thief, I was also learning to play the game period, the two went hand in hand actually. How bad was I at playing PC games you ask? I was key-turning for a solid three weeks, trying to figure out how one could get this “backstab” down. If you have never fought someone while key-turning, it is very hard. I figured people were pressing a side movement key and a camera turning key at the same time to stick so close to enemies and circle them. I even tried PvP and used deathblossom builds, and I surprisingly won some fights that way, of course if someone zipped off-screen I’d be in trouble. But being a backstabber was near impossible for me, cloak and daggering and key turning. Here is me in my cute adorable learning days as proof.

Once I learned how to mouse turn (thank god) I noticed I was doing so so much better. I could actually cloak and dagger backstab! I could circle around people! When people zipped off screen I could face them immediately! Watching those thief videos of thieves doing dungeons and in pvp suddenly seemed like I could be in some of their boots. The power of simply learning how to turn a camera made me that much stronger. And the whole experience made me more adept with my keyboard- never would I have thought that I would know where some keys are without looking at the keyboard. 30% of this post was typed while looking only at the screen thanks to this game.

In short, I’ve invested too much time and enjoyment and triumph and falling and picking myself back up to just leave this class, so i will fight for it, because I want to see it become better. That thread I linked is a prime example of how nice our community is, I fully expected to get aggressive responses, and it was on the thief sub-forum no less. So I’ll be over here, watching you guys quibble and babble, and I may interject from time to time, but I’m not going anywhere.

TL;DR- Got game, got thief, got good, got money

Well its disheartening for players to want to improve when they give it there all and the opponent laughs it off one way or the other, thats not me personally but I can understand the mentality

Honestly thought this was going to be a complaint thread, you win.

We can all agree that the general thief player is looked up to if they seem to be good at killing other players. But, what is the general opinion of seasoned PvE thieves? It seems to be evident that PvE is waved away or shrugged off when it comes to a measure of a players worth. Though I feel that some instances, especially for a thief, can’t be done by just anybody. Also to add, we are hated in dungeon groups, in general. At least from what I’ve read. I have personally never had a problem getting a PUG group (and I’m full zerker lol, just don’t say anything and they’ll think you are). In dungeons, minus the very first time (obviously) I’ve proven to hold my worth better than other classes that should be better. And I’m sure many of you have as well. But I’m rambling on at this point, to the main point of the thread:

Shouldn’t we respect PvE thieves as well? Some dungeons are flat out notorious. Not to mention our class isn’t exactly PvE friendly. I feel as though we give too much attention to the PvPers. And yet some of us do this content regularly at least clearing our name for the others behind them instead of being just another statistic. We should see some more PvE vids.

I love it, thank you so much!

But then I can’t relish in joy when I go down inside of shadow refuge and lol while rezzing as three people look funny trying to find me

It’s mostly true. We can evade everywhere with the right builds, but at the end of the day, going stealth is the best way for us to mitigate massive punishment, so we are getting hit hard. Yes the affects mesmers too, but imo not nearly as much. Ive fought plenty of mesmers who didnt even use stealth. EDIT: though id prefer it, for the love of God stop turning me into a moa, it doesnt work

ArcTheFallen.7682:

Thanks guys! How do you do it with steal? :x I am new to stealing so haven’t really tested if it breaks animations.

The only time you would use steal to stomp is on a thief, if it is ready to use, press it the second they shadow step, and youll blink to them without stopping the stomp, and a tuft of hair as a trophy for your accomplishments

tips for like what armor weapons? because the other guys pretty much covered the basics. Ultimately it depends on what kind of thief you want to be. There are alot of condition pd thieves. Im a dd backstab thief(but not a glasscannon >:( ) so the advice depends on what you want to do. edit: those arent the only two kinds of thieves

Blood Red Arachnid.2493:

Black Teagan.9215:

Blood Red Arachnid.2493:

Black Teagan.9215:

Blood Red Arachnid.2493:

Black Teagan.9215:

Blood Red Arachnid.2493:

Corrupt boon takes entire stacks. Bountiful Theft only grabs 2 stacks. So, if you steal, you’ll end up with only 2 stacks of might. Also, you are being deliberately misleading by giving a thief the maximum possible benefits for steal, while also not giving the maximum possible benefits for corrupt boon.

1 stack of 2 boons;

Your enemy have 8 stacks of might and protection of 25(?) secs —> BT on your enemy --> Your enemy lost high 8 stacks of might and protection and you get 1 stack of might + protection, both for 5 secs.

Prove the wiki wrong?

Why I should? The wiki underpinned my post, but not yours.

Reading comprehension skills are a must. The wiki says that bountiful theft works exactly as I described.

You wrote BT steal two stacks and this is wrong. It steals 2 boons and give max 1 stack of every stolen boon to you, also if your enemy have 15 stacks of might, and no other boon, it will give you not more than 1 stack of might.

That is the different between your and my post

You said that it would remove all 8 stacks of might from an enemy. It does not. It takes only one stack from an enemy. Hence, why it is not comparable to corrupt boon in any sense of potency.

From wiki:
Does not steal “stacks” of the boons; e.g. the enemy has 15 stacks of Might, your character is only going to receive 1 stack of might (unknown which individual might application/duration takes priority); if the enemy is using a boon that stacks duration, such as Protection, and has both a 3s and a 4s application of it (showing as 7 seconds total), your character will only steal the 3s or the 4s application of the boon (unknown which application/duration takes priority), not the full 7s.

In other words, it steals the boon itself, not the applications of said boon, so the target will lose the boon in its entirety, but the thief will only get one stack of itm left overs vanish into thin air

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Scythes-for-thieves-D/first#post3050503

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Scythes-for-necromancers-D/first#post3050167

Pretty much theory crafted a new weapon for thief and necro, not flawless but I would love to see them
Holy crud that was post # 3050503 what does it meeeeaaaaaannnn

ramorambo.6701:

I wonder what i will do with all that +0.33% init regen without any decent build to use lol.

Go into WvW and be the silent and dark protector who watches over battles from a distance. No need to fight, just relay information and be a good little thief. You may be a thief, but it’s not the mask, but what you do that defines you.

This thing has like a million health, may be an exaggeration but it feels like it. It took a group of 10+ people to kill an enemy who doesn’t even have a title (Vet, Champ, Elite) half an hour , and the best part is the only loot I got was a festival token. For anyone wondering, this monstrosity is in Maelstrom. Either nerf his hp significantly or make him drop better loot, please Anet

Gabriell.4856:

evilapprentice.6379:

It’s been 4 months. I’ve personally posted the topic a number of times, and I know others have asked the question in multiple threads.

Why is withdraw still missing the 10% noted in the patch notes? You increased the cd 3 seconds to accommodate a trait that competes with another build defining trait so no serious PvP thief can take it, but we still haven’t seen the increase.

Because stupid kitten like you and a lot of others believe in the devs. Simple as that.

And talking like that is why the devs probably don’t believe in this class

They said to play as I want. I wanted to be a thief. I didn’t want to be a class that is drenched in monotony, in my opinion. I mean come on, adrenaline and the most uses of weapon types? Really? How is that fun if a professions unique points are just that? In my opinion of course.

Who here wants a rabbit kill counter? I think it would be a nice passive thing to count, especially since i use these things to stealth in WvW. But I mean honestly all of you have killed those rabbits that were in your path to your next goal, we all have done it, and im curious as to how many ive killed…

phaeris.7604:

Thief is the LEAST risky class to play. Best escapes in the game.

Nope! If you need to escape in the first place, then clearly there was a risk

My new angelic guardian

yolo swaggins.2570:

Probably because war/guard is best at zerging and thieves are best at taking out single targets.

Nope, that single target usually will come to the forums as soon as they can because they don’t want thieves to do even that

Don’t be silly OP, all you have to do is simply hit back and watch the thief come out of it. In fact I only use Whirling Axe against a warrior to reflect a kill shot or to free up my steal again. Occasionaly if I have pistol off hand Ill use it in there while they mindlessly get hit by it. But there is in no way a warrior should be complaining about a thief’s stolen skill. I mean all you have to do is dodge or kite around him, or hit him. By what you’re implying, you’re telling us that you probably don’t even lift.

Just a tidbit to character customization, I personally (no one has to agree with me) think that having visible earrings on our characters would be pretty cool. Either like on the lobes or on the upper part with the cartilage. Even charr I think would look pretty B.A. with some nice charr earrings what do you guys think?

Chicago Jack.5647:

John, that was quite possibly the most extemporaneous post on this forum. Lol.

Okay guys I looked it up, extemporaneous basically means uttered in the spur or heat of the moment

godz raiden.2631:

He’s right though. Whenever I roam on my thief in WvW I tie a blindfold around my head to make fights fair. After about a half hour I untie my blindfold to see what has happened. I’m always running into a wall somewhere close to spawn, so I can only assume that I have defeated at least 100 enemies at that point. And that’s with a d/d setup. I could probably get at least 200 kills using the same method if I used d/p.

I wish there was a +100 button

Eh wth:
Zen Verani
22
Elonian
Necromancer: She’s been fascinated with the thought of death from a very young age. Where most see it as a scary taboo, she often embraces it. She often gets a thrill from near death experiences. Why? Because only when one is close to dying, does one truly know what it means to be alive.

Zen was an only child, born to poor folk. She often wandered alone, drifting further and further from her parents. Until the day she looked back, and they were no longer there.

Zen sought knowledge. She heard of tales of magicians and conjurers. Then she learned of an enigmatic people. Those who are masters of life, necromancers. This was Zen’s calling. She devoted every resource she had to learn. Basic reading and comprehension skills were a must. Then the skills of magic had to be learned. Zen came to a point where she realized that Grenth was her means to an end. That feast for her hunger. She worshipped, she prayed, she acquired.

Zen wanders the land, seeking new ways to play with her magic. Offering help to those who need it, and guidance to those who want it. She is also a jeweler and an artificer.

Zen does not have any immediate affiliations with any groups. She usually wanders alone.

Sadly, Zen does not have a family. She knows nothing of their whereabouts or even if they are still living. She found a stray dog once and they were companions for 5 months. With food being scarce and no real place to live, the dog died. She tried to use what powers she had at the time to bring to dog back, but learned the hard way that even if the body reanimates, the soul prefers to remain free. The dog was a mere husk which disintegrated and this caused extreme grief for days.

Personality wise, Zen is intact, mostly. Usually she is nice and caring. But due to the stress and trauma her earlier years brought on her, she can suffer from short periods of bloodlust, anger, and sadness. The many times she has been near death and defeated in battle have taken a toll on her too in an unexpected way. The adrenaline she experiences in a fight is exhilarating. She goes from nice and innocent to downright vicious and bloodthirsty. It’s not uncommon to see Zen covered in blood after a fight.

I would say Zen is a fun ride to be with, calm one second and vampiric the next. It may be weird, scary, or creepy. Or you may understand entirely her view on the world. She’s a necromancer for a reason, she loves life, and embraces death. Death has no meaning without life, and without death, we wouldn’t know what it feels like to be alive.

So instead of using another build….you deleted the class entirely…..so now it’s not just in game money wasted, possibly real world too, but it’s both money and time wasted here…

My mouth is drooling, we need some of these styles !

It can literally turn the tide of a fight, and if you use it on a GC, that 1.5 seconds can let you get a free mug, CnD BS which believe me, can make all the difference. You wont see how dire that 1.5 can be until you use it
EDIT: or you can just burst the kitten outta ppl with it :/

cloudysan.4397:

In WvW there are certain places where you can inf arrow up. SB is def. useful for this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHkisuqfhbo
Was posted recently here on the forum. Will help =) and make many many people break their keyboards.

Time to make more people rage, and the funny thing is, as a thief we dont even need to try, we just need to play

actually, there is a tanky dagger dagger condition self healing build i roled with for a bit (liked the idea of stealth fighting better) this vid may help, it does work. Pretty defensive for a thief http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykHzLlhZJCw

D/P doesn’t need Daredevil at all to be effective. If you want to use D/P, don’t pick daredevil, that trait line isn’t meant for the spike damage *playstyle D/P offers anyway.

Arganthium.5638:

RedSpectrum.1975:

Sons.5493:

i beg to differ, while a skilled thief would have a better chance vs another skilled players our current meta still puts us in a lower winning chance by game definition, a good shatter mesmer or a good ranger, heck even a good ele will just kitten the heck out of the skilled thief.

See the part where you said “heck even a good ele” DD eles in general I avoid. No just NO

I love fighting eles. They seem to have this air of “lol I’m an ele, that makes me superior to you” about them, which apparently makes them think that they can keep running while I’m murdering them from behind.

You know what? Youre right, Im not standing for that >:(

Taisia.2813:

I will challenge Anet directly right here and make a bold prediction with 100% certainty that we are getting new legendaries with Season 2. Here is my list of reasons for being so confident:

1. It’s about time! We’ve all enjoyed working towards and crafting one or more legendaries by now

I have not actually….

Carpboy.7145:

This isn’t available to watch on mobile :’(

Ill summarize it for you:
slash,slash,stab, flip slice, evasive healing backroll! slash, hilt bash, slash
“I could use some healing over here!”
evasive healing backroll!
slash, slash stealth, stealth, stealth slash, slice, slash with a slice
“Feedback Loop initiated”
Slash, slash, slash stab FINISH
Slice slice FINISH
clip 2
pew pew *stealth*pewpewpew
stab stealth
pewpewpew, pew pew pew
“My leg”
Hide in Shadows
pew pew, slice, pew pew
stab stealth pew pew pew
“Ha you’re going to have to hit much harder!”
“I’m bleeding!”
pew pew, “Get over here!” scorpion wire, stab FINI-
pew pew stealth pewpewpew, slice pewpewpew
“Could use some help over here!” FINI-…..FINISH
pew pew stealth pewpewpew
slice pew, pew, pew, stab pewpewpew FINISH

Clips 3 and 4 are similar, but I left out some major details in there I think, I’d say I did a pretty kitten good job though

Carighan.6758:

Lydeck.5214:

I hope it wasn’t Bubbles. Underwater combat is atrocious and I don’t want new underwater content until they revamp that entire mechanic.

I was hoping that we’d get the manta people, complete with 2-3 zones which are entirely underwater. Seriously.

No one likes underwater zones or levels, no one

Mortals, necromancy was not enough, my necromancer has discovered that art is a great way to immortalize yourself

The toxicity of this thread is reaching biohazard levels.

It’s a sad day when thief players don’t even recognize “veteran thief” players on the forums. Go through my history and find an instance of me attacking my own class. And this wasn’t my suggestion, it was one I heard that inherently sounded interesting. You should learn to read carefully: “I am not going to post this in the profession balance because I know everyone who is not a thief will for sure be on this bandwagon so I’m going to post it here to see what you guys think of this suggestion I heard of. I personally don’t agree with it since I think it can be downright punishing and before you ask, read the title, stealth is in no way being attacked here.” there is my introduction in case you skimmed past it.

considering if you use cnd when youre running through someone and immediately use bs when they are behind you, your character will bs the air in front resulting in a miss, im going to get crippled alot