Guild Wars 2

atheria.2837:

UnitedChaos.8364:

I share with you one of my builds. I’ll never post my main, but I share this, equally as deadly, bleed build.

http://tinyurl.com/kgok882

Rune of the Krait coupled with bleed/burn sigils and food boost bleed damage to over 1800 a tick. I use celestial trinkets to balance things out, but you can run Rabid for extra damage.

Notes
-Use traps beforehand.
-Use spike trap slightly behind others.
-If playing aggressive, run in and use Entangle. Krait rune gives bleed, poison, and torment. As well has Entangle damage and bleeds.
-I use canine for kd and cc.
-All damage together totals well above any crap warrior zerk build.

Why would I trust anyone who won’t post their “main” build?

Exactly. Even when I was with Team Legacy we shared our builds and tactics, many of which became meta, all in the spirit of diversifying the scene and helping build competition. Chances are his build is nothing special, but it’s a common courtesy to share your builds, no matter how “OP” you think they are.

Back when I played thief I must’ve shared my Death Blossom Regen Bleed build 10 times before people started taking it seriously, so while he might be playing something different it doesn’t necessarily mean it isn’t effective.

TL;DR: Builds should be open to the public, not kept behind an ego.

Ascended armor takes a long time to farm for. I’m glad I don’t have to rush to the next update to get it done.

Go kudzu. The longbow is your best friend in WvW.

I feel like this is a joke considering your lack of survivability and reliance on stealth coupled with the fact that you don’t use caltrops, Uncatchable or any other condition complimenting trait. Literally the only thing in this build that shouts “conditions!” is your carrion gear, which people seem to think is good for thieves.

Maybe it’s because I’ve built myself as an invincible condition thief, but for the most part I feel like little effort is put into making the thief more survivable than berserker builds. For me, survivability is the ability to be at a stalemate with a zerg while they try to kill you for over 10 minutes when you finally decide to let them kill you so that you can release back to the main group or run away depending on the situation.

5 Easy Steps to Ensure You PvP Happily:

1. Set your online status to invisible.
2. Disable all chat functions, or create a new window without any chat.
3. Make sure you have a team that’s well coordinated enough to simply use map pings for rotations
4. Play your best
5. Accept your losses and learn from them.

Keeps me calm and rager-free for the entirety of my day PvPing.

XP Gain +5%. Welcome to the community.

Master of Timespace.2548:

Almost all roamers out there are thieves (myself included) and though it’s sort of hilarious, it’s slowly getting dull.

Those who think thieves aren’t op have to be quite bad players themselves, or just don’t know a single good thief.

I generally start any thief fight by throwing down my longbow burst fire field combined with pin down when the thief reveals themselves. I follow that up with my burst AoE, and when that rotation is on cooldown and the thief stealths, I dodge after a second or so and follow it up with endure pain since the thief is guaranteed to use backstab within that time. By that point I can use eviscerate and my whirl attacks timed right to mess up a backstab again.

Longbow warrior against a thief ? Whahahahahhah

I dodge after a second or so and follow it up with endure pain since the thief is guaranteed to use backstab within that time

Really? Well I just laugh in my perma stealth when you pop your endure pain at nothing. Oh, unless if I’m on my p/d build. Then I just use sneak attack xD.

Thieves are easy. Telling me I’m not a good player because I can easily take down a thief just shows how ignorant you really are as thieves, just like high-burst greatsword warriors. I haven’t lost a single fight to a thief in months, and it’s obviously not because I’m a bad player. I’ve done my research. I’ve played your class. I have a level 80 thief with full ascended. I know your tricks and I know how to kill you. Plain as that. There have been times just in the past week where two burst thieves try to hank me and they end up dead, so I do take some offense when you tell me I don’t know anything.

I do know ONE good thief that I’ve deemed “good”, and he doesn’t play high burst. He runs apothecary gear, never dies and melts people with conditions. Even s/p warriors with tons of condition removal can’t cleanse the amount that he throws down, and I’ve seen him take down a small zerg on his own simply by conditions. His build is also more powerful the more players he’s up against because all they do is proc his healing. That’s a good thief. High burst, fail, run away thieves are not. If you think that you can last in a fight as a burst thief you’re sorely mistaken. The philosophy behind zerker gear is to DPS them down before they DPS you down. If you fail to do that you either run away or die. This is true for all DPS builds, thieves and all other classes alike, unless you’re too useless in the head to retreat, in which case you must be tired of constantly dying.

You mustn’t have ever met a good warrior, and I don’t blame you. Most of them are just as kitteny and ignorant as high burst thieves.

April Fool’s 2014: Waypoints removed for your convenience. Enjoy your day.

Are these all of the balance changes? I thought that Thief had “a lot of good things coming”?

Puandro.3245:

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

Puandro.3245:

Viking Jorun.5413:

Setun.4368:

My only question is why not sword offhand for the torment stacks?

I run shield for its defensive capabilities and the free stun. When I successfully chain “Fear Me!”, Savage Leap, Shield Bash and Flurry, the fight is very well over.

As a secondary bonus, it gives me two leap finishers to double the time my fire aura persists.

Auras don’t stack in intensity.

I’m pretty sure that isn’t what he meant at all. What he meant was that he can proc fire armor, and then after that wears off he can then proc it again if he needs to.

Viking Jorun.5413:

Puandro.3245:

Viking Jorun.5413:

Setun.4368:

My only question is why not sword offhand for the torment stacks?

I run shield for its defensive capabilities and the free stun. When I successfully chain “Fear Me!”, Savage Leap, Shield Bash and Flurry, the fight is very well over.

As a secondary bonus, it gives me two leap finishers to double the time my fire aura persists.

Auras don’t stack in intensity.

I never said anything about intensity. I said duration.

Yup i did understand what you said correctly. Once again Auras don’t stack intensity/duration whatever you want to call it. They are not like boons. Each fire Aura from a leap finisher will last 5 seconds and NOT stack with each other.

Go ahead and try it. You’re obviously stuck in your opinion and would rather argue when I could go ahead and record video proof of a mouseover of fire aura after two consecutive leap finishers.

You say that they don’t function as buffs, however the wiki states that Auras act as irremovable buffs, stacking duration and not intensity as other buffs do. Please, go onto some other thread if you’re so enclosed in your own opinion to neglect testing or research.

ryan.6217:

Viking Jorun.5413:

Pro Tip: You only need two pistols, one on your primary set in one hand and another in your secondary set on the opposite hand. Example below.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQJA6alYm6OHcS6E/5Ey2DgqC5JdG40L1fgrA-jkBBkfA0HwJPFRjtwpIasKkYaXER1A-w

I take your pro tip and suggest my own. Pro tip 4 sigils are better than 2. But yes, i know you only need 2, thanks mate! The offhand set have swapping sigils!

Heh, I deleted two of your pistols before I saw that you had different sigils on both sets. It’ll save you money at the very easy until you can get a full set of 4 ascended pistols at the very least.

Shufflepants.9785:

Interceptor.2653:

On second thought, maybe we should just nerf Sword #3 on Shortbow instead. It’s been a while since they whacked that weapon, and the change to Choking Gas isn’t enough.

Better yet, I feel like the shortbow still has too much range. All the skills should have a range of 600. It IS the SHORTbow after all. The nerf on the range of #2 was not enough. Thieves just spam all their abilities at their feet anyways.

Funny enough, shotgunning Cluster Bomb is a direct counter to stealth thieves. 9/10 you end up with a dead/downed thief after he stealths.

Bufjon.4215:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

People are actually rping in Rata Sum? Neat, I go to Piken Square sometimes (The EU RP server) to watch the roleplayers. But Rata Sum is always empty, all the roleplayers seem to be in Divinity’s Reach or Ebonhawke. I really wish there was a significant RP presence in Rata Sum.

At least there is one place in GW2 where the asura RP community is alive and well ^^

First thing is first; I love your signature.

Secondly, yea we are trying to liven up RS.

I think more people need to start using that signature.. It’s so true :x

Oh man, I can’t wait for Repeater, Twisting Fangs, and Stab to be OP.

Craptrain.7203:

I’m just going to pay the 3 silver to waypoint to work tomorrow, thanks.

Quoted for truth. The reason you have to walk everywhere initially is to at least experience the world once before you waypoint about. Take it in. Enjoy it.

RoyalPredator.9163:

… I’m far not a beginner.
What mostly uses the stealth and other skills unuseable/failing is the autoaim.
Even if I turn back for a second to not conflict camera angle degree limits of shooting, it can easy send it to CD instead of proccing, so there goes my chance to flee.
The best when I’m cloaked up in end of fort wall, but someone at ~1200 range manages to pull me down to their zerg. lal that.

I focus on tPvP, man. As for your issues, you need to learn how game mechanics work. Abilities with cast times such as the Engineer’s Magnet ability will track you into stealth, and you need to be aware of your surroundings. Longbow, at the end of the day, is a utility, while melee will always be a ranger’s main source of DPS. The same rule applies to all ranged weapons with very little exception across every class, not just ranger.

I still use warhorn in competitive PvP ;-;

I’ve got my legendary and full t3 across all 5 of my characters and I’m by no means rich. I’ve bought gems a couple of times for promotions when I didn’t have the gold to exchange, but that’s it.

Kidel.2057:

You know what else would be nice? Another Revenant beta weekend

Considering as of today my beta character no longer exists without my express permission to delete itself, we may soon be seeing another!

When fighting a condition mesmer with conditions applied upon clone death, if a clone shatters during an evade the conditions will still be applied to your character. This makes counter play impossible aside from complete invulnerability to conditions. You cannot apply conditions, then dodge as a clone is about to die due to this, or use a skill with a built in evade to DPS down the clones safely. I don’t know whether or not this is a big or working as intended, but it does make the condition mesmer very possible with the ability to bypass evades and apply conditions.

The next round of legendaries should be based on developer art. Obnoxiously.

Example: “Pew! Pew!” Would pop out of the 16-triangle pistol with unicorns textured on it, and Colin Johanson would voice all of the sound effects.

Chokolata.1870:

Even if it is a l2p issue , thieves can reset fights all day long . They cant be cought, they can run away whenever they want . In short, they dictate when the fight happens and how long it lasts .

So can sword/x+GS rangers, mobility warriors, stealth mesmers, engineers in general, GS+sword/focus guardians, and x/d eles. Go complain on their forums about how they can break combat.

JustTrogdor.7892:

I heard a data miner found some leather chaps.

Lol. That’s almost believable from the thumbnail.

C) Don’t offer your sister as payment. Many of us actually have standards despite the stereotype of the average online gamer.

People need to get off of this train of “ranger is bad design” and learn to play the class.

Charr are the master race. See attached:

LieutenantGoogle.7326:

You know you played WvW too long when your inventory is full

…across all 9 of your characters.

Sanctus.8350:

Dergs.8109:

Kaizer.7135:

It’ll just be a staff skin.

I see why you say this, the model is holding it in roughly the same way as current staves. However, I will gnash my teeth and rend my garments if you are correct. That is clearly a halberd model. God if they give it to spellcasters I’ll be kittened

Its the seraph spear model… http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Seraph_Spear

Quoted for truth, because some people make me facepalm. The clockwork soldiers just have an added intelligence chip that allows them to weild underwater weapons on land, something Tyrians lack the brainpower to do.

No.. Your face is funny. It’s like a little raisin.

People fail to realize that longbow is more a utility than a direct damage weapon. I personally use Sword/X or Greatsword for my primary damage output, and longbow for the knockback, AoE cripple, stealth (easy for disengages/repositioning), vulnerability stacking, and mainly use the longbow autoattack for tracking escaping opponents who try to LoS me.

Buffalo Sabres.1072:

Support , im fine with them but a graphical update is really needed.

I crafted the GS.

How did you craft it through the insane amount of gold and time gating required to even get to 500?

Thief doesn’t need a rework, end of discussion.

Travlane.5948:

Viking Jorun.5413:

I love lurking and watching Trav defend his initial point by going off on tangents that have nothing to do with or support said initial point.

The fact is that it isn’t close to “the best build”. There is no omnipotent zerg-busting, solo-roaming, win-button build. We have build variety for a reason, and you’ve told everyone in this thread who disagrees with you that our builds are sub-par to yours then challenge is to pointless duels in private messages. It’s sad and childish to assume that you have and created the best build out there and then refuse to believe those of us who say otherwise.

I’ve said it before. Posts like this, and the majority of the posts I see by you, Travlane, show the epitome of what people hate about egotistical thieves that rub it in when they win 1 battle out of 9. Stop it, for the sake of the community.

you dont read no good does you? ok. in a debate if you disagree with something you validate your line of thinking / claim with a counterpoint/fact/example. so plz show me a video and explanation of what you think the best overall build for thieves is in wvw?

again since you cant read. if u think u have mastered thief this thread was not for you. poof be gone.

im not just a thief im a guardian too. i play thief 60% and guardian 40% ….i sometimes on occaision sprinkle in my engi or necro. but im also a zerk guardian…not very mainline. i do different thinks.

you may or may not agree with me and that is perfectly fine. but the thing is…u dont have to be a rude lil boy like you are….just say hey i think you are wrong and here is my reasoning. rather you act like a lil brat with no education and maturity. come back and say somethign when ur a grown man. until then. TA!

Excuse me but I’m far more eloquent, so when you decide to start name calling please think about what you’re going to say.

Secondly, if you don’t play thief 100% of the time, stop going around the forums telling everyone that you’ve mastered every aspect of the class and know when to make the right call in posting. All I ask is that you cease this behavior, because it makes you look bad.

Honestly, I feel great about my legendary. I didn’t farm at all for it. I got it while commanding the server I love after standing up for a good friend of mine. He got it from the Karka event and knew that I needed it, and I’ll forever be thankful. Things like that make legendaries and their components have sentimental value, and I don’t think I’m the only one who cares a lot about his legendary for that reason.

lordkrall.7241:

Rosen Myst.7641:

At this point in time I highly doubt we’ll ever see the Crystal Desert. GW2 is being developed in a completely different direction. They have no reason to revisit old areas including Cantha and Elona. If they did open up the Crystal Desert, I’m sure it wouldn’t look anything like what we remember. So it’d just be a disappointment.

I laughed at your post Rooks Zaer. That’s exactly what they would do!!

So you assume we will never actually fight the rest of the elder dragons then?
We do after all know for a fact that one of them is in the Crystal Desert.

In one of Colin’s last interviews he explicitly stated that the next expansion would be centered around another dragon, which is where he gave away the Jungle Dragon Mordremoth.

Bought $100 in gems, converted it to gold and bought 50,000 influence with half of the gold I’d converted… For the wrong guild.

I know, Personal Story Completer should never show in PvE.. Like wtf, right?

I tried TERA out for 3 days and came back to GW2. No shared loot, no dodging, the need to constantly turn in quests and backtrack, a vertical progression system.. All of the characteristics of a WoW clone, essentially. People claim that Guild Wars 2 has boring and stale combat, but I’d beg to disagree. Try Dark Age or GW1 out now. Both games had extremely good combat back in the day and helped pave he way for many games even now. When you go back to those games and play similar games today with similar stand-and-hack-and-slash RNG-based combat it’s boring. No fight between two people will ever be the same due to the mobility and unique situations every fight entails, yet people still complain that it’s “stale” and “bad”.

Call me a fanboy, but GW2 still outshines the majority if not allof modern MMOs of its kind.

Wow. I can’t believe that one post created so much discourse. Kryptonite exaggerates a bit, and I clearly stated that we had at most, 30 players. I shouted in TS to mass invis and from what I’m guessing several mesmers used it, not just one. About half of the TC zerg followed their commander through us off the cliff and we cleaned up the rest. I don’t see how hard it is to believe.

Secondly, I am talking about PvP. I say apothecary gear because the Shaman amulet in PvP has apothecary stats (toughness, not vitality like every other piece of shaman gear has). I stated my own opinion and told you all how tired I was of people complaining about warriors on the forums, and to go learn the class. Sustain doesn’t mean high health, Fenrir. A soldier’s amulet is just a buffer. You won’t ever reach max health 1 minute or longer into a fight, because your enemy can slowly whittle you down, and that health and toughness buffer won’t last. Warriors have the highest diminishing returns on vitality (if you don’t know what stat DR is, go away.), which means we don’t benefit from it because, as I stated before, it’s merely a buffer. The CC warrior does have its role in PvP, but it isn’t meant to sustain. You should know that being so “pro.”

I was in the last SOAC tournament and took 1st in a WPvP duel tournament prior to the SOAC tourny on the same day. I’d like to think I know what I’m talking about, but you know everything. You play PvP after all, so you must know everything about the class with no background in theorycrafting for PRX and TL and you weren’t the PvP class lead for Team Legacy while it lasted. If you’d like to criticize my posts based on personal opinion, go ahead. If you don’t believe me, go ahead. Don’t soil my good name, though. Keep your entitled forum warrior opinions about “weakest class” and “I don’t understand why I lose” to yourselves.

Thank you.
Discussion closed.

Crawford.4135:

Viking Jorun.5413:

No.. Your face is funny. It’s like a little raisin.

Pff, now watch some Moderator will come in here, not knowing where that came from, and hand you an infraction for saying that to another player.

I suppose I should explain that it used to be quite the comical line until you stood in Lion’s Arch for any period of time after launch, just so that said moderator doesn’t infraction it :x

Sanduskel.1850:

My fellow thieves: do you realize that anet cannot buff thieves with perma stealth in its current state? Whether or not you believe it’s a l2p issue is besides the point. The hue and cry from the population would be deafening. If you want improvements to our class as I do, you should be advocating for fixes to stealth.

As for preventing stealth or being revealed, lol. Decent thieves don’t fall for those

Again, Sandy, saying that something is OP simply because the populous says so, the earth – by that logic – would still be flat.

There you go again with those back lashing comments that repeat what I’ve already stated I’m not, and that don’t matter. I kindly asked you to back down, to let this thread die. I’d like to hear others opinions on this, because clearly you have no sense of direction in your posts. You claim to be mature yet go on to talk about how I am in your eyes via name-calling and self-entitlement.

You call me a kiddo, yet the only one I see here pointing fingers and calling names is you. Every time you reply in the manner you’ve been it ruins your credibility more and more. I and many others challenged you to duels which you haven’t followed up on, and we continually point out flaws in each post of yours while you persist to continue.

I ask that you apologize to myself, DrYamak, and Torniker and end this discussion, because clearly it isn’t going anywhere but downhill for you or any of us. I’ll be the first to apologize to you for starting this, and I expect no less from you. Any rebuttal will show the entire thief community how childish you are, so take the high road, apologize, and stop posting like the rest of us. There’s no point wasting any more energy on this thread.

One thing I’ve been wondering for a while is, why is it that the Whirling Axe skill thieves steal off of us reflects missiles but our Axe 5 whirling axe does not? I feel this is a major design flaw and results in a lot of loss in build variety. For example, if we had projectile reflection on Whirling Axe, and carried a shield with the Missile Reflection trait in our swap set, we as warriors would have a completely new build type to the table: reflection. Now mesmers wouldn’t be the only ones able to build to reflect projectiles.

Secondly, this would make us much more viable in sPvP and tPvP against purely ranged bunker rangers, engineers and the likes.

What are your thoughts on this? It seems like something so little, but it could make a world of difference for us as warriors.

Casey.9687:

First of all, dueling means virtually nothing when it comes to class knowledge. Anyone can run a Condigen (00662) build and win every 1v1, however that build will never succeed in high tier tPvP, so please quit asking Jcbroe to duel you. It’s extremely childish and only shows that you either think that you’re skilled enough to run a dueling meta build (requires skill? Not much.), or you just think everyone here is stupid enough to think that you won’t just run the Condigen build or its variants.

jcbroe.4329:

Spirits aren’t meta. They haven’t been since March, and any tPvP build with spirits is often centered around Sun Spirit for the condition ranger’s personal use rather than team support. Most top rangers now are beginning to run power roaming builds and condition home point bunkers over spirits due to the nerfs that the Balance patch brought. I’d even go as far to say that they aren’t viable in tPvP anymore compared to other options. Is it still the easiest, least skillful spec to play? Absolutely. Does it provide the same team support and survivability that it used to? Not even close. Many top rangers, when running spirits, are only running a single spirit for their own benefit more than their teams. I’ve seen two variants: a condition roamer running Sun Spirit for the burning proc to increase their own DPS without the need to run Torch, and a power variant of the same build running Frost Spirit (and likely Spotter) to increase their own DPS. Spirits, in short, have fallen out of the meta.

Hey guys, just thought I’d post this out there. There’s a funny quaggan running around kessex hills named Poobadoo, seen in the first screenshot. He has a guild bounty icon above his head so I’ll assume he’s a target.

http://i.imgur.com/RESvgBN.jpg

The second shows his dialog when you click on him. I’m assuming that he licked up the wrong alley and got on someone’s bad side, and it’s your guild’s job to capture him, or something to the affect.

http://i.imgur.com/qPRo92v.jpg

And thirdly, thanks to the lovely Lady Alderea for taking these screenshots and following him all the way around his loop in Kessex hills, I present you his entire loop. Hope it helps!

http://i.imgur.com/FOarZ9l.jpg

I think the issue with stacking servers is the constant drive to be the best. Gate of Madness sure isn’t, and most of the people who want it to do great are either struggling to get more guilds over or have transferred off, the latter being the easiest route. I transferred away in December of 2012 to join Team Legacy. I learned a lot, hopped servers as said guild did, and eventually came back to GoM. I can’t say I’m thrilled with the commanders we have now, or the lack of respect I have compared to before I transferred off and stopped commanding, but the fact is that the server is much less toxic, and it’s refreshing.

I do aim to stack Gate of Madness. The community managers may not like it, but I’ve already paid for a guild to transfer over since seasons’ end, which for the cost I could have bought a legendary. Some people show their passion through leadership, others through the drive to be the best on their server. I simply show my passion through the expansion of our active WvW playerbase. I’m personally not against stacking, and hope that GoM can indeed rival Blackgate some day – something our PvE population already does.

Guys, I’m not arguing here for P/P. I’m suggesting a pistol offhand change.

Well, at least you guys lasted a year longer than TL. Sad to see you go!

This topic has been beaten over and over and for the most part I concur with the majority of people who oppose mounts. I do, however, like ArenaNet’s cosmetic mount (the riding broom) and wish that they’d add more of THOSE types of things, perhaps unavailable to the cash shop for people to have some sort of end game besides dungeons and legendaries to do and work for. Little things like these /cosmetic/ items that ANet likes to add to their game would be fantastic by my standards. Having already gotten my legendary I no longer have anything to do with my main besides wait for the weekly reset on guild missions to slowly work towards my ascended earrings. I’m not asking specifically for cosmetic mounts, but rather something along these lines that progresses my character. (Being forced to be an altoholic isn’t my game. I’ve never made alts in any other game because I like to invest in my one main character).

To sum it all up, mounts are a no, and will never be added. However, perhaps ANet will see that this is just another cosmetic option that gives us yet another thing to progress towards that offers nothing but cosmetic items to show off.