If people have really been asking about the structure of Charr reproductive organs, is there more to this truce with humanity than I’m aware of …?
I can only assume you’re new to the internet if that’s a question. (Hint, leave safe search on unless you’re prepared to see the cantunseeable.)
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The AP hunters seem to be those “everyone gets a participation trophy” type of people from the looks of it. Rewarding everyone just for trying. Perhaps they need to look up the definition of achievement. There should be some exclusive things that not everyone could get, you should be rewarded for being the best. If you want it badly enough, you’ll try to be the best. I’m disappointed Anet. Stop carebearing so much. Since you want everything to be obtainable by everyone, how about we make legendary armor purchacable for wvw badges and pvp currency? How do ya feel about that? Its only fair right?
After an internal review, we’ve decided that awarding points for achievements that are this exclusive goes against the intent and spirit of our achievement system. We’ll be removing the points on these in a future release.
Well congrats “Malediktus.3740” complaining WON, what signifies a achievement for your team then? Because with this statement it would appear being one of the best spvp players in your game, which you have hosted several $20k+ (of which some of those players sit within the top250) is NOT an achievement your current system.
I just find it interesting how your posts about nerfed AP and how hard it is to get elite items depends on whether you specifically like that type of AP.
And whether he can get it (see the thread about league pvp achievements in PvP section).
So, basically, he’d like APs to fall within a range where they are too hard for a majority of players to obtain, but not so hard that he wouldn’t be able to get them as well.
Actions, not words.
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Well, there’s always the opinion of this poster who said:
Malediktus.9250 “Keeping the high achievement point skins prestigious (29k+) is a valid reason.”
The fewer AP there is and the harder it is to get AP, the more prestigious the skin is. Isn’t that right Malediktus.3740?
You pulled that out of context again regarding the daily/monthly cap which is already very high @15k AP.
I always advocated for more attainable AP outside of dailies, especially since noone is even close to getting the backpieces in the next few years.
Yes I did pull it out of a dailies cap thread. Capped dailies is something that a lot of us casuals dislike, and you like. However I feel that you’re trying to have it both ways. You complain when the AP you like isn’t enough, because it makes it hard to get the high AP items. Then you turn around and applaud when AP you don’t like is capped because it then makes it hard to get the high AP items.
There is a difference between disliking infinite daily 10 AP for 5minuntes of effort and being unhappy about reducing/removing the amount of AP for things you actually invested several hours each into for a much lower AP / time ratio.
Not to mention these were capped also. A maximum of 65 AP for all 4 minigames combined.
And isn’t the non daily AP also infinite? ANet releases AP one way and releases AP another. Both have short term stops (one daily, the other as new content comes along). However both are equally “infinite/finite” as both can continuously increase and neither have a known future stopping point. Both can have AP which is easy to get, a few minutes, and both can have AP which takes time and effort. The main difference is, you like one and dislike the other.
So therefore when a thread about AP you don’t like comes on the forum, you appear and applaud the cap and say it’s good because it makes the elite items more elite. However when it’s AP you like that’s nerfed, well then it’s awful. It makes the elite items harder to get. You then make a thread and complain about it.
I just find it interesting how your posts about nerfed AP and how hard it is to get elite items depends on whether you specifically like that type of AP and that you never seem to consider other arguments, such as whether or not uncapped daily AP would help ANet retain the casual players or even whether or not pixels on your computer screen can actually be elite or prestigious.
How is non daily AP unlimited? It is very much limited by Anets development speed and has a whole different time/effort vs reward ratio so it is not even close to comparable. Sometimes you only get 3 AP for 500g of resources spent, which means way less than 1 AP per hour of time investment.
This is starting to feel like a strawman argument to be honest.
Tell me the stop date where you will no longer get non daily AP.
And I find it interesting that of all my points that’s the only one you talk about
Because there is nothing to discuss about your other points. You are just trying to trap me with rhetoric questions.
I’ll take this to mean you agree that both types of AP are “infinite.” That is, players will continue to be able to accrue AP (if no artificial stop is placed such as the daily cap) as long as the game is running. If the game ends or both AP is removed, accumulation of both will end and they will become finite.
Note that infinite doesn’t have to do with one set of numbers accumulating faster or more regularly than the other.
Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.
Well, there’s always the opinion of this poster who said:
Malediktus.9250 “Keeping the high achievement point skins prestigious (29k+) is a valid reason.”
The fewer AP there is and the harder it is to get AP, the more prestigious the skin is. Isn’t that right Malediktus.3740?
You pulled that out of context again regarding the daily/monthly cap which is already very high @15k AP.
I always advocated for more attainable AP outside of dailies, especially since noone is even close to getting the backpieces in the next few years.
Yes I did pull it out of a dailies cap thread. Capped dailies is something that a lot of us casuals dislike, and you like. However I feel that you’re trying to have it both ways. You complain when the AP you like isn’t enough, because it makes it hard to get the high AP items. Then you turn around and applaud when AP you don’t like is capped because it then makes it hard to get the high AP items.
There is a difference between disliking infinite daily 10 AP for 5minuntes of effort and being unhappy about reducing/removing the amount of AP for things you actually invested several hours each into for a much lower AP / time ratio.
Not to mention these were capped also. A maximum of 65 AP for all 4 minigames combined.
And isn’t the non daily AP also infinite? ANet releases AP one way and releases AP another. Both have short term stops (one daily, the other as new content comes along). However both are equally “infinite/finite” as both can continuously increase and neither have a known future stopping point. Both can have AP which is easy to get, a few minutes, and both can have AP which takes time and effort. The main difference is, you like one and dislike the other.
So therefore when a thread about AP you don’t like comes on the forum, you appear and applaud the cap and say it’s good because it makes the elite items more elite. However when it’s AP you like that’s nerfed, well then it’s awful. It makes the elite items harder to get. You then make a thread and complain about it.
I just find it interesting how your posts about nerfed AP and how hard it is to get elite items depends on whether you specifically like that type of AP and that you never seem to consider other arguments, such as whether or not uncapped daily AP would help ANet retain the casual players or even whether or not pixels on your computer screen can actually be elite or prestigious.
How is non daily AP unlimited? It is very much limited by Anets development speed and has a whole different time/effort vs reward ratio so it is not even close to comparable. Sometimes you only get 3 AP for 500g of resources spent, which means way less than 1 AP per hour of time investment.
This is starting to feel like a strawman argument to be honest.
Tell me the stop date where you will no longer get non daily AP.
And I find it interesting that of all my points that’s the only one you talk about
Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.
Well, there’s always the opinion of this poster who said:
Malediktus.9250 “Keeping the high achievement point skins prestigious (29k+) is a valid reason.”
The fewer AP there is and the harder it is to get AP, the more prestigious the skin is. Isn’t that right Malediktus.3740?
You pulled that out of context again regarding the daily/monthly cap which is already very high @15k AP.
I always advocated for more attainable AP outside of dailies, especially since noone is even close to getting the backpieces in the next few years.
Yes I did pull it out of a dailies cap thread. Capped dailies is something that a lot of us casuals dislike, and you like. However I feel that you’re trying to have it both ways. You complain when the AP you like isn’t enough, because it makes it hard to get the high AP items. Then you turn around and applaud when AP you don’t like is capped because it then makes it hard to get the high AP items.
There is a difference between disliking infinite daily 10 AP for 5minuntes of effort and being unhappy about reducing/removing the amount of AP for things you actually invested several hours each into for a much lower AP / time ratio.
Not to mention these were capped also. A maximum of 65 AP for all 4 minigames combined.
And isn’t the non daily AP also infinite? ANet releases AP one way and releases AP another. Both have short term stops (one daily, the other as new content comes along). However both are equally “infinite/finite” as both can continuously increase and neither have a known future stopping point. Both can have AP which is easy to get, a few minutes, and both can have AP which takes time and effort. The main difference is, you like one and dislike the other.
So therefore when a thread about AP you don’t like comes on the forum, you appear and applaud the cap and say it’s good because it makes the elite items more elite. However when it’s AP you like that’s nerfed, well then it’s awful. It makes the elite items harder to get. You then make a thread and complain about it.
I just find it interesting how your posts about nerfed AP and how hard it is to get elite items depends on whether you specifically like that type of AP and that you never seem to consider other arguments, such as whether or not uncapped daily AP would help ANet retain the casual players or even whether or not pixels on your computer screen can actually be elite or prestigious.
Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.
Well, some players weren’t good at certain activities and/or didn’t like certain activities, and felt like they were missing out of AP because it was locked behind content that was too difficult for them (like the jumping puzzle or bell choir).
So players don’t have to worry about doing stuff that’s too hard and/or they don’t like without missing anything. Just pick your favorite activity and get a few extra gifts every so many times you complete it. I think last year I skipped out on the AP from the infinite achievements for all but the JP, because I was farming the JP for gifts to get the shoulder skin and it was too time consuming to do activities that weren’t efficient for getting gifts.
Besides, it’s only about 25 less achievement points than last year and that’s not very much.
Well, there’s always the opinion of this poster who said:
Malediktus.9250 “Keeping the high achievement point skins prestigious (29k+) is a valid reason.”
The fewer AP there is and the harder it is to get AP, the more prestigious the skin is. Isn’t that right Malediktus.3740?
You pulled that out of context again regarding the daily/monthly cap which is already very high @15k AP.
I always advocated for more attainable AP outside of dailies, especially since noone is even close to getting the backpieces in the next few years.
Yes I did pull it out of a dailies cap thread. Capped dailies is something that a lot of us casuals dislike, and you like. However I feel that you’re trying to have it both ways. You complain when the AP you like isn’t enough, because it makes it hard to get the high AP items. Then you turn around and applaud when AP you don’t like is capped because it then makes it hard to get the high AP items.
Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.
I would not be surprised if ANet throws a ton of AP into the next expansion and the “complete everything” point becomes moot. What is likely to happen is as soon as you hit 39K AP that every other semi-dedicated veteran player will have it as well in another 2-3 months.
ANet is notorious for creating a soft cap on progression benefits (WvW ranks (nothing new but a title), PvP 80 ranks, Fractal levels, etc.) and AP will be no different.
To be perfectly honest, who cares about AP’s. Any tom kitten or harry can get them and will get them in time. Being the first one to 39k points means nothing in reality. In fact i 100% guarantee the first ppl to get there will be laughed at for it. I used to be ocd when it came to ap’s but then i came to my senses and realized they mean nothing, you don’t get a special prize for it that no one else can get. Players really need to stop qq’ing over ap’s already. It’s like crying over spilt milk, just clean it up and pour another glass lol.
Arenanet sets the pace at which people advance with their AP, if this doesn’t meet your expectations that’s your problem. The backpiece might be a longterm goal, Anet decides what longterm is.
And you aren’t “cheated” out of AP since you didn’t do anything for these non existent repeatable achievements.
I think this is good. This way the high AP items will be harder to reach, fewer will get them and they will therefore be more elite and prestigious. You should be glad for this OP.
That’s kind of a weird way of thinking about it. Normal people couldn’t care less what other people in a game do or have, since it has no affect on their own stuff. I think you need to remember that this is a GAME; there are no “accomplishments” or “status” associated with anything in any game, because it is all pretend/imaginary.
True. Most players don’t care if someone has a nice item or a lot of achievement points.
But some of those who believe in exclusivity and prestige are down right egotistical jerks. And sometimes, they go out of their way to let you know it.
I had an experience about 3 weeks ago.
What happened: I was in the Lava Lounge in Ember Bay and another player had used his endless ignited wraith tonic and was standing there playing with his costume brawl skills. So I thought “hey cool” and used my endless ignited wraith tonic and moved over to use the merchant. I didn’t speak to anyone or even use the costume brawl skills. Immediately the player whispered me asking if I own all legendaries in the game. I told him I don’t own any and he accused me of trying to start an kitten contest with him.
I censored his name in the screenshot. The screen shows pretty much the entire conversation because I quickly put him on my ignore list because I knew exactly where the conversation was headed. I’ll be kitten ed if I’m gonna stand there and be cyberbullied in an online game just because I used a goofy tonic I worked hard to get. And quite honestly, I wish it was easier to get so more players could enjoy such an item. I considered reporting for verbal abuse, but figured there was no need since I blocked him before things got out of hand.
I can’t stand people with this kind of “only I can have it” attitude. To be fair though, not all players who value exclusivity and prestige are egotistical jerks. Only a small minority of them are.
The repeatable achievement for doing the dailies seems to be similar to the one from SAB where you can earn Kaiser Snake skins. So I would not count it as a meta achievement? Anyway you need to do the wintersday daily 50 times, so it likely will take 3 years to get the maximum AP.
There is a new title for this year, but it got moved from the meta to a random regular achievement.
It’s certainly not a meta as in the traditional sense no, but it does appear to replace it. I suspect they have done it this way due to the complaints of having to do the JP or having to choir or relying on a successful snowball mayhem pvp group etc from previous years. For better or worse, this way is more accessible to more people.
This year the 4 repeatable achievements for Wintersday activities are not giving any AP. In the previous years you could earn a total of 65 AP by doing these repeatable achievements. So basically we got cheated out of potential AP again. I guess Anet never wants anyone to reach 39000 AP for the backpieces.
Are you surprised Anet don’t like the AP hunters in this game, look at some of the AP linked to some of the achievements 3 AP for weeks worth of work, a cap on AP, if they could get away with adding no AP to stuff they will do it, there is no meta achievement for the winters day either this year.
Long of it is, the less AP they can give you, the less they have to do with the AP chests, expect to see more and more content with little to no AP linked to it.
I think this is good. This way the high AP items will be harder to reach, fewer will get them and they will therefore be more elite and prestigious. You should be glad for this OP.
Actually these usually increased the gap between players, because only few people had the endurance to play 150 snowball games. I know a few people above 30k AP who skipped these in the past years because it was too tedious for them.
But I guess Anet should not be suprised if people play these minigames less now, since one incentive was removed.
Yes. It’s good that they play the mini games for fun and not for achieves. It’s better this way. Keeps the high AP point items out of the hands of all but a very few and keeps them elite and prestigious and let’s people play for fun and not be pressured to play to get achieves. It’s a win win.
Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.
I think this is good. This way the high AP items will be harder to reach, fewer will get them and they will therefore be more elite and prestigious. You should be glad for this OP.
Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.
This year the 4 repeatable achievements for Wintersday activities are not giving any AP. In the previous years you could earn a total of 65 AP by doing these repeatable achievements. So basically we got cheated out of potential AP again. I guess Anet never wants anyone to reach 39000 AP for the backpieces.
Merry Wintersday to you, too.
You expect me to be happy if every year there is less to do in the recurring festivities?
To be fair, your OP doesnt seem to say anything about less to do. Just about not getting AP for doing things and Anet seeking to prevent you from reaching a particular AP milestone.
This year the 4 repeatable achievements for Wintersday activities are not giving any AP. In the previous years you could earn a total of 65 AP by doing these repeatable achievements. So basically we got cheated out of potential AP again. I guess Anet never wants anyone to reach 39000 AP for the backpieces.
Merry Wintersday to you, too.
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Wow, hyperbole overload here! “A colossal waste of development resources”? Really?
It’s a little drop with a simple, quick, 4-step process (go here and use the thing) that turns it into a free ascended ring that can have any possible stat combination.
The real question here is why did you think that there would be a greater payout than an ascended item? Because it took you a long time to get the drop?
Someone’s probably just mad because there wasn’t any AP attached to it.
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Seriously. On average it takes hundreds of petrified wood + karma for skritt staches (it took me over 300+ staches to get the rock, other people reporting no drop in a larger amount of staches). More time to open all these staches, just to get a trophy item that leads to an ascended ring after a mystery that took people months to solve.
No aura, no achievement, it does not even have all 3 infusion slots. This whole thing must be a bad joke from Anet considering rings are the easiest ascended equipment to get.
Basically this whole item is a colossal waste of development resources and a missed opportunity to introduce a legendary ring.
I know I should have waited for other people to build this ring before I invest time into it, but this is just another example of effort vs reward not matching.
Wow, hyperbole overload here! “A colossal waste of development resources”? Really?
It’s a little drop with a simple, quick, 4-step process (go here and use the thing) that turns it into a free ascended ring that can have any possible stat combination.
The real question here is why did you think that there would be a greater payout than an ascended item? Because it took you a long time to get the drop?
I think it’s quite sweet that he kept the ring all that time, considering Althea died in the Searing and that was almost 3 years earlier. Although I suppose after the Shiverpeaks he wasn’t in a position to decide which items he would keep with him.
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This is a case of the journey being more important than the destination. Back in GW1 Rurik’s body was defiled by the Vizier and you had to fight his reanimated corpse towards the end; This was a very big deal back then. Finding his engagement ring on the very same place he was finished off and recovering it, is a very symbolic journey of cleaning up his legacy, even though mechanically you are just walking around wearing his ring and the ashes of his wife as a trophy!
