If the desire for dueling is so popular, and there are so many players that want it, then it should be easy for you all to find each other, form your own guild, (Call it Fight Club or something) and get a guild hall…
Tahdah! All you folks can then duel to your hearts content…
I feel as if this topic is dead because people choose to troll towards it so much, not only on these forums but in game as well. When trying to duel in pvp, we are restricted with the gear you can use. In wvw/eotm, you get destroyed by zergs and they yell at us to go to pvp for duel. And to be told that you have to be in a guild…HAVE TO BE IN A GUILD to duel safely……..to add on top of this pitiful list of excuses, “This game is designed to NOT foster greed and apathy, but the opposite”……..It is clear that everyone in this topic has not dueled and has zero experience with what happens.
No, these people have played other MMOs where ganking and dueling happens. when you dont want to fight, its incredibly stressful and can ruin your entire experience when someone decides to harass you. when YOU want to duel, you go to the place for it. pvp. not when youre trotting around trying to harvest iron ore and some kitten wont leave you alone.
the answer is no. anet has said it. the community has said it. get over it. go play wow and get roflstomped to your hearts content.
Here’s the reasons. – My class is weak against class X. It needs to be nerfed because I think these certain abilities are OP. Incoming flood of players crying, whining and raging about how they don’t need a nerf and if anything, they need a buff against your class. Then ensuing posts about how this class is a hard counter for that class. And even more more about how you just need to “get gud.”
Then there will be posts from the devs saying that PvP isn’t based around 1v1. Because that does create hard counters, and posts about how every spec, class, talent set up is viable, and that argument will never end.
Then people will start looking into what gear combinations are best for dueling and then want to wear it all the time in dungeons, raids and in PvP. And clog up the forum and reddit with requests to let people wear PvP armor in PvE.
And just to give you some things to research. Google up “Frost Mage vs Warrior”, “Priests using PvE gear in PvP/Battlegrounds.” and “Every class is viable.” These were beaten to death in World of Warcraft because they wouldn’t separate PvE from PvP; something that made GW1 so great. We already have enough problems with the two merged as they are in sPvP, WvW and EB. Letting people duel in PvE only brings that nightmarish decade back to life and creates more crap for the devs to have to read through.
Want to duel? Spend 200 gold, buy an arena, put a password on it and don’t start a game, just have your friend join and go slug it out.
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because at its core, GW2 (and GW1) is a cooperative MMO and open world conflict with other players is a very hostile feature. This game is designed to NOT foster greed and apathy, but the opposite. thats why unlike some MMOs who shall not be named, events, nodes, mobs, etc are for everyone. this just goes against the entire mood this game has.
I wouldn’t mind scrapping the entire party, to be honest.
Except for Taimi, I continuously find myself not giving a single -meow- about any of them.
They’re bland, boring, and I roll my eyes at almost every line of dialogue. They just do not hold a candle to Destiny’s Edge from our Personal Stories in GW2.
-edit- To clarify, I mean that Destiny’s Edge actually felt like veteran war heroes. Their names carried weight. Right now, it feels I’m parading around the Maguuma Jungle with a band of teenagers on tethered backpacks playing babysitter
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Yes but we no longer have the same level of authority since we are Commander in title only and work outside of The Pact. Braham is neither part of the Pact or our Guild.
I’m not seeing where we have acted out of character – we are a Guild leader now working independently. Realistically the only person a Norn will truly listen to is Knut and it would be more our responsbility to convince him of our plan and direction so as to discourage more lives lost. If Braham wants to charge off and get himself killed in the name of revenge and glory…so be it. It is def not our place to interfere in that.
On a side not concerning our responsibilities, I’m still not entirely convinced that we are acting responsibly in allowing Taimi exclusive access to Dragon research which would be benefit all of Tyria, when we have 3 Orders which we should be trusting in a lot more with that info.
Ignoring titles and formality, we are pretty much the only person powerful and connected enough in universe to be challenging dragons. That makes it our responsibility to do the right thing if we don’t want the world to end.
As it is, Braham wants to call a crusade against Jormag and lead a Norn army to slay it. The plan proposed by the commander is to pitch the dragons against each other, where there will be zero lives lost as they destroy each other. At best, Braham’s plan will result in a LOT of Norns being killed, at worst, it ruins the commander’s plan by distracting Jormag at a critical time, Jormag doesn’t get killed, and both dragons proceed to destroy the world before they annihilate each other. In between the two extremes, a bunch of norns get killed and Jormag is also killed, but we’re left to assault Primoridus on our own at the cost of countless pact solider lives.
Clearly, Braham being allowed to proceed with what he wants to do is in no one’s best interest except his, and it’s going to affect a lot more people than just him, so it falls to us to stop him because we’re in the best position to do so. We’d simply not help him retrieve the scroll, and judging by the fact that braham and rox combined do pretty much zero dps, they’d never get through the cave alive.
I believe the reason why Taimi doesn’t share her research is because of simple bureaucratic red tape. Phlunt has already been attempting to hijack her research and he has the legal right to do so because she’s an underaged progeny and he’s a Councillor. Phlunt is also Inquest however, and you can bet the research he acquires wont be shared to anyone except to further the inquest’s interests. They aren’t known for being particularly magnanimous or caring about the lives of anyone except themselves. If it becomes known that Taimi has been undertaking further unsupervised research, you can bet everything would be confiscated and put into incompetent, indifferent or malicious hands. I doubt the pact can protect Taimi or her research if that’s what Phlunt chooses to do. As it is, all the research is going directly to us, the person best positioned to take down dragons and cares enough to do so, so that’s a win all around.
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On a side not concerning our responsibilities, I’m still not entirely convinced that we are acting responsibly in allowing Taimi exclusive access to Dragon research which would be benefit all of Tyria, when we have 3 Orders which we should be trusting in a lot more with that info.
Actually, I think it is the most responsible thing to do. Entrusting all 3 orders with that information could lead to a dissaster.
You have to remember that since absorbing Zhaitan’s death magic, the other elder dragons can now resurrect or corrupt other life in a similar manner to Zhaitan. If you’ll recall, part of the advantage of doing that was that the elder dragon was privy to all the memories and information that the said deceased or cloned individual was knowledgeable about in life.
In other words, leaking your plan on how to defeat the dragons to more people, where many of those people could subsequently die and be corrupted by the dragons and the plan subsequently learned, seems very counter productive. And obviously the more that know, the higher the risk of that happening is. If anything, the irresponsible thing our character did was giving that information to Braham, who is not in his right mind and seems all to eager to now march to death’s door.
He’s going to continue doing so until he learns to grow up, or find his actions cause a grievous mistake he will forever regret.
I fear the next grievous mistake is going to result in a very high body count. At this point, the commander should be doing an intervention, not let him bumble his way onwards to disaster. If it means losing him as a friend so be it, there’s 2 dragons and the rest of the world to worry about first.
Perhaps this is part of the problem. Because of our lack of story choices and our inability to intervene in situations where you can see disaster written on the walls, it creates this sense that you’re at the mercy of the plot, whether it ends up being good or bad. In this case, it seems almost certain that Braham is about to commit his entire race to a disaster on what could possibly be a genocidal scale, all because he’s acting in a manner that seems childishly irresponsible.
Meanwhile, we’ll have to sit on the sidelines and watch it unfold, powerless to do anything unless the writers write our own character into a position where they can bash Braham over the head with an oversized cup of wake the hell up, because that’s just the nature of the story. That’s what irks me the most. Still, I’m hoping it doesn’t get to that and I’m hoping the writers do a good job of redeeming the situation somehow.
I think you nailed the problem on the head – the whole scenario feels so out of character for how I imagine a commander in charge of keeping the dragon-pocalypse at bay would act. With so much at stake, you don’t just let a guy free to pull off his incredibly stupid plan that he’ll most definitely regret later, and you especially don’t aid him in getting that crucial last component he needs for said incredibly stupid plan.
That was very jarring and I feel like slapping every character involved in the story for allowing it to happen as it did. If this was a book I was reading, this is the point where I’d chuck it at the wall because the plot contrivance is making everyone act dumb (and out of character in the case of the commander) and its annoying.
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This unfortunately isn’t the first time Braham’s rash behavior has caused some issues. Whilst some may consider it merited at the time, it cost quite a fair bit.
When Scarlet was finally confronted (good riddance), we actually had an opportunity to learn. The one chance to know the reasons behind the disaster and perhaps even know more about Mordremoth and maybe even have prevented the incident with the corrupted Sylvari at Verdant Brink.
However Braham, in his angered state with the casualties and destruction in LA decided to take execution into his own hands before consulting anyone else. Ruining any opportunity of learning anything as well as injuring both himself and Majory in the process.
He doesn’t think and his emotions get the better of him, this has almost always been the case. So this kind of attitude doesn’t surprise me. It’s only just become more apparent since the death of his mother.
He’s going to continue doing so until he learns to grow up, or find his actions cause a grievous mistake he will forever regret.
Braham is a young adult still realing with hormones who lost his mommy during a war.
Get some perspective maybe.
Regardless, he’s in a position of influence, and he’s about to lead a whole bunch of norns to their death and royally screw up the commander’s plan to resolve two dragon problems at once bloodlessly.
As the old adage goes, with great power comes great responsibility, and he’s not acting responsible at all. I have no respect for anyone who pulls a stunt like this when they’re in such a position of power. If he can’t get his emotions in control, he shouldn’t be calling the shots.
If it were up to me at all, I’d have made sure Braham never retrieved that scroll once it became apparent he was so recklessly out of control. He can then continue to be as angsty as he likes as long as it doesn’t come with the potential for great disaster.
Perhaps this is part of the problem. Because of our lack of story choices and our inability to intervene in situations where you can see disaster written on the walls, it creates this sense that you’re at the mercy of the plot, whether it ends up being good or bad. In this case, it seems almost certain that Braham is about to commit his entire race to a disaster on what could possibly be a genocidal scale, all because he’s acting in a manner that seems childishly irresponsible.
Meanwhile, we’ll have to sit on the sidelines and watch it unfold, powerless to do anything unless the writers write our own character into a position where they can bash Braham over the head with an oversized cup of wake the hell up, because that’s just the nature of the story. That’s what irks me the most. Still, I’m hoping it doesn’t get to that and I’m hoping the writers do a good job of redeeming the situation somehow.
Braham is a young adult still realing with hormones who lost his mommy during a war.
Get some perspective maybe.
Regardless, he’s in a position of influence, and he’s about to lead a whole bunch of norns to their death and royally screw up the commander’s plan to resolve two dragon problems at once bloodlessly.
As the old adage goes, with great power comes great responsibility, and he’s not acting responsible at all. I have no respect for anyone who pulls a stunt like this when they’re in such a position of power. If he can’t get his emotions in control, he shouldn’t be calling the shots.
If it were up to me at all, I’d have made sure Braham never retrieved that scroll once it became apparent he was so recklessly out of control. He can then continue to be as angsty as he likes as long as it doesn’t come with the potential for great disaster.
The fact that the commander doesn’t think of this course of action annoys me too. It should’ve been evident from the first interaction that Braham was unstable, and you don’t go around putting potent magic into the hands of someone like that.
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I think i disagree a little with you here.
The main difference for me being that we never saw Logans fall ourselves.
We only heard about it.Here though we saw his story unfold.
We saw him when he first sought out Knut Whitebeard, teamed up with Rox, got confronted with talking to his mother and finally warm up a Little to Eir after feeling abandoned from here.And there’s the thing why i actually kinda sympathize with him.
He finally after, not sure 16-18 years?, got to know the woman he only knew as this idealized hero of legend and right when he thought they could be a family, when SHE started to treat him like a son, it gets taken away from him.Quite honestly i’d like to know how you would have reacted to this.
Would you stay calm and just shrug it off?
I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t.And while all this happens everyone tells him: Braham, just stay calm, breath…
How would this affect you?
Does it seem childish? Maybe.
But it actually makes sense.As I said, I don’t mind the whole vengeful character theme, but I also think how that character is portrayed can make or break it. When I think of a good example, I think something along the lines of “The Count of Monte Cristo” or even “V for Vendetta” (which is also inspired by the former), where you can see the character has been consumed by revenge, but they approach it in a cold, calculated and thoughtful manner. They never behave in a way that is whiny or childish, but you can still see how the pursuit of revenge has damaged them as people and how it destroys those around them. You still sympathize with them and maybe even feel like rooting for them, but they don’t seem annoying or repulsive so to speak.
In the case of Braham, however, the character is portrayed in a much more annoying and obnoxious manner and it kinda just puts me off. I just think if they’re going for the whole revenge thing, they should just do it in a way that still carries across the dread and empathy associated with the character’s feelings or actions, but not in a way that makes the character grating or annoying.
The Count of Montecristo was an adult man who had years in prison to plan out his revenge.
Braham is a young adult still realing with hormones who lost his mommy during a war.Get some perspective maybe.
If you believe that only younger men can act childishly and older men more maturely or in a calculated manner then perhaps you need some perspective, because I’ve seen more than enough cases where it is quite the opposite to know that you cannot simply label people based on rheir age demographic in such a black and white manner.
Braham has been pvping and raiding a lot lately. Just give him a vial of salt lol.
It is a pretty insignificant area, but I can see the concern. It could be a “slippery slope” kind of thing. Today its just a ledge and a tree. A year and several examples later, its half a map locked away in a BL chest.
It probably won’t be, but given the tendency of game companies to do this, people are right to be worried
Or you can farm up some gold and buy Season 2 from the gem shop. LS1 is not available, so other than a “what did you miss” recap, so nothing to buy there. I don’t know if the Season 3 chapters are available yet. Depending on when you logged in, you may have gotten 1 or 2 of the 3.
If you only want to see the story you can do that for free by doing it with someone who does own it. You just don’t get the achievement points or rewards.
Not if you want to complete your gold set of mini game achievements…
And, stubbornly refuse to give up until you do…
This is literally painful for perfectionists/completionists…
If they literally add 10 seconds, then this would be far more reasonable….
The problem is, people would ignore the mechanics, then whine about the encounter taking too long. Either way, they should simply give it a time limit which enrages the boss.
I want black friday to stop happening for black friday.
Just to WvW, edge of the mists and follow the zerg. Easy tomes.
Basically because in PvE you get actual XP, in PvP/WvW the XP is given artificially through tomes to mimic leveling.
WvW is quicker than PvP for getting tomes imho. If you can, do some of both WvW and PvP just for daily pots if you want.
You can get Writs from PvE dailies and trade 20 in for 1 tome.
Daily logins grant 10-16 tomes per month (I would not recommend choosing the 6 tomes over the laurels or ascended materials in the Chest of Loyalty however)
Some WvW Dailies don’t even require one step foot in WvW, and the Chest includes a ToK.
Only the Transcendent Chest of Knowledge, grants a tome, you only get this with Daily Keep Capturer.
But trust me, when you don’t need tomes, you’ll swim in them. I have maybe nearly 2 stacks, and I just consume them for shards, which I also don’t need but it stores it infinitly in the wallet.
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Elite:
1. a select part of a group that is superior to the rest in terms of ability or qualities:
synonyms: best · pick · cream · crème de la crème · flower ·
[more]Maybe that’s why it was named elite. Rather than open up build options like secondary profs in GW1, this new system in GW2 completely pigeon holes professions into roles…
… except for the celestial elementalist. The saving grace of this game.lol I just realized something GW2 is actually the anti-GW. It does everything opposite to what GW did. It all makes sense now.
Because no one every complained that skills like pain inverter or necrosis, or save yourselves in GW 1 were must have skills to get through certain content. No one ever said if you’re not a paragon/warrior with save yourselves, you’re not getting into my DOA team. No one ever said, LF rank 8 ursan.
I used to try to participate in pugs for underworld and DOA and people wanted I-way or sabway, or amway or 600 monks.
Some people just insist on those rose colored glasses.
Edit: You know the more I think about it this is pretty much exactly what they did in Guild Wars 1, as least as far as PvE was concerned. In PvE you could use 8 skills but you could only use 3 PVE only skills. Those skills were more powerful than anything you could put on your bar. That’s 3 out of 8 skills or roughly 1/3. In Guild Wars 2 they’re just doing the same thing with traits that were done with skills, but its’ the same thing. And I remember many complaining about the power creep or having to have certain skills on their bars.
There were other skills that also were must haves. Minion masters had to have that skill that summoned minions even if there wasn’t a corps, I don’t know a lot of rits that didn’t use signet of spirits (how could you not) and of course the only really viable paragon build was imbagon.
Yep, this isn’t the opposite of what Guild Wars 1 did at all…at least for PvE.
Edit 2: You can’t really compare elite specs to secondary professions because one was in the game at launch, where as we’re talking about something added with expansions, much like the PvE only skills I’m talking about.
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