Guild Wars 2

Xenesis.6389:

Osu.6307:

Maybe instead of screaming and crying about how terrible these pairings are, we should actually give it a little time and see for ourselves.

A blind man could see that having DH/EB vs 3 and 4 link servers wouldn’t work out well.

2 high servers vs 2 high 1 medium vs 1 high 3 mediums. Then the next tier up there’s 2 very highs matched together, one of which was winning t4 (they ain’t doing so well in t3 right now, because t2 jq is there).

I’m all for waiting to see how things go, but right off the bat that matchup seemed bad, and it’ll probably be a rough 2 months for DH(again) and EB.

In all honesty, Ebay should not even be considered ‘high’.
We might have been (months ago) before guilds hopped on the first linkage t1, accessory server bandwagon. So this brings into question the data history being used for the pairings to begin with. How can this be solved? Dunno, perhaps keep an eye on gems used for transfers prior to re-link (where did people leave, where did they arrive). From what I remember prior to original linkage was DH being very very large compared to our server when it was “more full”. They fit better with servers like NSP, Mag, HoD. Now, they seem much smaller. Ebay was more the size of SF, GoM, and FC but again, we lost people too. So we are more like a medium-high with a medium atm.
The only reason we can barely contend is simply due to awesomeness, but that can only carry you so far

Grey.3179:

Looking for fun? Looking to fight for the underdog? JOIN DARKHAVEN!

Lol, sorry Akkeros, couldn’t resist it.

I think you might be a little surprised by DH’s lack of numbers. Regardless, glad to have you guys with us and looking forward to some fun fights.

Lol, it only helps “our” cause so I am all for it.
Win or lose, we will have fun and enjoy our linking.
The best thing about being mixed with different servers is seeing their fight styles, getting to know people you once might have disliked and found out they are not-so-bad after all and finding new friends (rainbows and unicorns comment, i know, but still)

Come to DH and Ebay to fight for justice and put down tyranny! Where the good number few and the bad are many. Help us bring balance back to this sick, sick world!

-Green Land Turn

Looking for fun? looking to fight for the underdog? JOIN EBAY
It is a very dynamic matchup for sure….Butttt, it wouldn’t hurt to add a few more. I feel we are a little small now to contribute to DH’s numbers efficiently and effectively.

Siobhan.5273:

Ragion.2831:

Mike O didnt want to be the head so i would probably give him a break. From what i could tell from his posts he is always open to suggestions and advice so even if he is to blame for any troubles at the studio, i would put equal blame on the staff.

Running a company isnt about one person taking charge over everything. From the stuff ive seen so far, i dont think Mike O has much to do with any Anet struggles.

Mike O’Brien is one of the co-founders and President of Anet. He is exactly where he wanted and intended to be.

I spoke of this topic when management switched over and the white knights were busy defending Collin while attacking Mike.
When you own a business or begin a company it is not always your goal to work until you die. You get it going out of passion, make it the way you want it, back it with success…then let someone else run the show. Unfortunately, if someone runs all you created into the ground, you have to step back in to right the ship. Hopefully, and it seems there is a lot of effort being put forth, the ship is moving toward the open sea now, not the rocky shores.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Hello everyone,
I’d like to take a moment to answer some questions that I’ve seen asked frequently.

Q: What factors go into determining world links?
A: We take into consideration a lot of factors when making the links, but the primary factor we look at is the WvW activity level for each world, during peak and off-peak hours. The goal being to normalize world populations among unlinked worlds and groups of linked worlds. For EU we also filter potential links by language.

I am curious how far back statistics for population went and how recently they were measured prior to this matching/pairing/multipairings.

whichever host server gets Ebay will likely win. Those guys are amazing!

Simply put, I agree with the OP and think he would rather see ANET do MORE for the majority when it seems they are doing MORE for the minority. Seems kinda logical to me.

Lightsbane.9012:

Hexinx.1872:

click play and skip it like the rest of us?

no, i demand a safe space.

lol, i love it.

ME TOO, stop ruining my dreams with false hopes of a great patch dropping!

ThomasC.1056:

Arcaedus.7290:

My beef with DBL was the fact that it takes far too long to get from point A to point B in certain areas than you would think just from their distances on the map. Example: going from the southeastern-most camp to the shrine just north of it. Looks like it would take 30 seconds right? HAHA NOPE. Have fun snaking your way down an unnecessarily elaborate scaffolding for 2-3 minutes. Even if there is a way to strategically fall down and cut minutes off of this trip, that route is not obvious enough and perhaps not even intended.

Actually, if you follow the cliff to the northeast, you’ll find convenient stairs, leading you straight to the shrine you’re looking for in a direct trip. They’ve been put there in the last update.

That’s the big point with DBL : ppl thinking it’s tedious running from A to B actually haven’t explored it thoroughly, and found all the shortcuts there’re everywhere. And it’s especially sad about the last issue of DBL which is far easier.

I actually think the trip from Citadel to, say, bottom middle camp feel far longer in ABL than DBL. Maybe it takes less time, but it’s so boring !

I would rather just follow the flat land to the flat opening near a keep that overlooks the lower, flat area with a nicely decorated mountain or forest in the background.

Teon.5168:

Actually, if you look at the current poll, it doesn’t look like the dbls are going away. And Anet most likely already had a good idea from their own metrics/data as to how this poll would turn out. I think it was probably a fairly low risk poll for Anet. Just gives them ammo in the future if people scream about the dbls again…..they can point to the current poll.

But I can certainly understand your concern over the direction that Anet might be taking. Some days the ideas/patches look great….other days, not so much.

yeah, i think they told every employee and their family with a gw2 account to vote for this so we get stuck with it.
But, oh well. I am still truly happy for all 17 people that actually like it that are players. Gz! Hope changes are substantial enough to actually put people on them or you will fight the fortified gates alone….again.
Forgive my sarcasm
Just don’t think the stupid thing fits, works, looks appealing (different from graphically nice), creates a since of fun, community, ownership. But i guess it has dinosaurs though, that is a redeeming feature right?

exactly what Zaxares says. I have most legendary weapons (minus underwater and a couple of off-hand) specifically for the ability to change stats since most are transmuted as something less flowery, feminine, or just plain ridiculous. I sometimes carry around 2 extra ascended armor sets in wvw just so I have options if the situation changes around me. Keep the skin, just free up my inventory, let me leave my banks nipple, and allow me to actually work toward something while I play my preferred game mode.

Malediktus.9250:

style.6173:

So, how do the 90% or so of players who don’t raid, get legendary armor?

they dont. legendary does not give a statistical advantage, so its a non issue if they cant

If it is able to change stats it will of course be an advantage. If not, then ignore 9/10 gripes.

If legendary armor can only be acquired via raids it should only be usable in raids.
You have to make items (or an equivalent) available somehow in all game modes, not just one.

If servers were ever meant to mean anything a guild should not be able to transfer at all. If you build a guild using server x players then just all transfer to server y it gives no reason to support a team or side. If things had been this way to begin with there would be far less stacking issues.
If you have no server loyalty, what do you fight for? the gvg mini-game that was suppose to improve players fighting skill to zerg-bust for wvw?

I remember seeing the wvw in-game mail that told me about the new poll but was busy at the time and thought I would remember to ck it later.
Anywho….I forgot.

So, just a reminder about the poll in the sticky section (that nobody usually looks at).

mesmer/warrior/thief

two words…..reset night

problem solved

I am curious as to how many people (gay, straight, citizen, soldier, resident, foreign) that it should take before a flag should be lowered or a cape to be worn? Because we weren’t talking about the political aspect of this instance, just human life right?

all classes should have total escape modes removed

yeah, i noticed that too
its like a kid watching kittens play and getting a sense of anger from it…just kinda doesnt fit

Gellrock.4073:

Akkeros.1675:

lol, was just kidding
but now you see why we joke about you guys self-fulfilling prophecy? yes please

Don’t see any self-fulfilling prophecy, just was stating that all servers have the same complaints about all other servers. I’ve been on enough servers and all i hear is the same old complaints. Even people in NSP teamspeak are completely kittened when they spew nonsense about being double teamed and the enemy being too bloby. I enjoy fighting both of DH and HoD but we are honestly the same server with different pop levels.

again, just kidding. I get it. I have multiple accounts on multiple servers and you are right, most are full of nice people, helpful people, good people, and a few turds. We all know blobs when we see them, even if they are our own…just different hot times in different servers…but overall, DH is lower in population or coverage without a doubt most of the time i have been on.

Gellrock.4073:

Boo hoo, NSP went through hell for about 6 months or more of getting shaat on while slowly falling out of our i think 8th position at the time. Take your lumps and wait for the server matching to change and hope. And the NSP hate in some of these comments is ridiculous . All servers have the same problems and complaints about every other server. Just because you think we blob or suck at roaming doesn’t mean we don’t think the exact same thing of you.

lol, was just kidding
but now you see why we joke about you guys self-fulfilling prophecy? yes please

I am not DH
and I AM HANDSOME….don’t ruin my dreams kash

I think the OP still thinks the game/game-mode is fun but just wants something to work for too. Once you maxed out your ranks (which I can’t remember when that happens) what difference do they make besides making you a higher priority target?
It would be nice to get some reward for reaching certain rank to show time spent or certain reward for winning each week that is fun yet usable.

With that in mind…are laurel merchants ever going to be updated for those that have bought HoT?

I like DH.
Always outnumbered but always fight with what they have.
Numbers-wise, cannot compete with NSP or HoD, skill-wise…equal or better (especially NSP, their roamers are awful……jk…….well sorta)

yeah, never understood why you have to move ALL THE WAY to the edge of a wall (where you will burn through your stability in about 2 seconds while people pull you off) to cast down on an area you can clearly see (based on having the high ground) but you can hit unseen objects above you, behind solid wall if you are on the low ground.
Same thing happens with siege disablers too. Can hit things out of LOS above, but not below unless you move completely to the edge.
It makes no sense at all

it might help to know your server just in case you want to personally go through things without having to join party, lfg, etc

have you tried to go to metabattle? or watch any of the youtube vids if any are posted under the thief profession?

no idea really but they usually don’t happen until after a pvp season ends

because everyone cares about those…right?

it is not very good imho for gw2. Too few keybinds and the position (which at first feels comfortable) becomes too narrow when you are trying to move the mouse and press the buttons at the same time causing the mouse to slide around under your hand.
If you just want to search google?, ck your email?, yeah, its great…but gaming? not so much

can we merge this thread in with another?
perhaps somewhere under the living world section?

jk

I like the OP’s comments and ideas. Very well thought out.
It would even be nice to find a rarely used spot in Tyria to serve as a wvw open pvp zone.
I might even get some map completion done going to look for a great spot.

TallBarr.2184:

Akkeros.1675:

Tyler Bearce.3427:

Personally, I voted ‘Yes’ to this, as did the rest of my team. So we are also disappointed with the result. But that was an accepted risk when we decided to poll the community about WvW development rather than just following our own vision.

Don’t shoot yourselves in the foot by keeping dbl around for 3 months at a time. Your “poll” (if you want to call it that) clearly showed the majority picked a greater amount of alpine v desert.
I should hope the other poll to remove dbl completely eliminates this buffoonery.

The poll shows a majority of playerbase wants a mixture of them 2, with 2 alpine and 1 desert. Stop pulling kitten out of your kitten will ya.

is that what the poll showed?
p.s. cats have kittens, not other kittens …sheesh

Tyler, do you have any actual statistics about how active the dbl’s were during their entire life post HoT up until Alpine return vs how many people played alpine during the same duration of time? About 6 months or so.
These numbers will be quite substantially different I imagine and can eliminate one side saying the poll is skewed by the other or the concept of “my guild mates didn’t vote because”
Also, just so we we can put the numbers into a ratio, are we able to see active wvw participation total during those times used to estimate bl participation?

Tyler Bearce.3427:

Personally, I voted ‘Yes’ to this, as did the rest of my team. So we are also disappointed with the result. But that was an accepted risk when we decided to poll the community about WvW development rather than just following our own vision.

Don’t shoot yourselves in the foot by keeping dbl around for 3 months at a time. Your “poll” (if you want to call it that) clearly showed the majority picked a greater amount of alpine v desert.
I should hope the other poll to remove dbl completely eliminates this buffoonery.

Rashagar.8349:

Akkeros.1675:

just shoot the thing already

Where the “thing” you want to shoot is the ability to vote of the players that are wanting to scrap it completely without even seeing what improvements iterative changes can lead to, right? =P

*edited to satisfy my social anxiety, though now it’s a wordy messy mouthful. Ah well.

yes
and take magnesium

just shoot the thing already

Bandini.6185:

Jski.6180:

Its seems the 2 alpine bl and 1 desert bl going to win out

Unfortunately, you’re wrong. “Yes” has never reached 75% since the beginning of the poll, which means that rotation, though representing only 30%, wins.

Yeah, with this poll, we all lose and eventually anet loses.
good idea to do a poll (bonus point)
bad poll (lose a point)

i really hate seeing things get better, watching anet listen for a bit and then watch it slide back down again
The proof is in the pudding. And as Levar Burton would say, “but you don’t have to take my word for it” /rainbow flyby

ughhh

It blows my mind when people think that those who wanna scrap dbl are the vocal minority.
Unbelievable.

ebg = chocolate ice cream
abl= vanilla ice cream
dbl = bile flavored ice cream

excuse me sir: we here a raskin bobbins want to introduce a new flavor, …kinda tastes like vomit. I know you usually get vanilla but we are only gonna sell dbl cream for the next three months. So, since we don’t wanna lose your business and gain the business of the 7 people that liked our new ice cream I wanted to give you a choice,…would you like 2 scoops of vanilla with one scoop of bile OR 1 scoop of vanilla with 2 scoops of bile?

Ermmm? no ty, bye

business 101 > marketing 101

just make the pve stuff available through wvw rank or currency, problem solved

i don’t think magic can be empirical
and ouija boards are bad, you shouldn’t play with them.

Productivity is sometimes invoked as a definition for deserts

Websters Dictionary? an uncultivated region without inhabitants; a wilderness; a dry, barren, sandy region, naturally incapable of supporting almost any plant or animal life. Synonym ? waste. The Middle English root of the word means ?forsaken? or ?abandoned?.

Coincidence? I think not

Need another option.
Give us an option to remove dbl as a choice, look at your results, then use this data from the current poll.
Are there a few people that like dbl? yes.
Were they enough to keep wvw alive? clearly not
Just rotate dbl with eotm map each quarter.
Again, don’t take my word for it. Just give that as a preliminary poll and look at the results.

Xenesis.6389:

You guys saying to delete and remove the desert borderland realize that:

1. There is a group of players who do like it.
2. Anet has spent a good amount of time developing the map.
3. They were still tweaking it even as it went off rotation… it’s not going away.

So you might as well fall in line and knock off the nonsense of deleting it.
Vote for mixed borderlands when the poll comes, better to have just one desert borderland than three, you’ll still have two alpine maps to visit. Stop being selfish, this change will appease all players.

you do realize that there was a group of people that thought slavery was a good idea too, does that make them right?
Desert BL is bad for the game and ANET now understands that simply by looking at their numbers. You are well within the minority I am afraid.

Hey guys, below is a list of upcoming polls you are likely to see, in roughly the order you are likely to see them.

Mixed Borderlands – Do you want a mix of Alpine/Desert Borderlands maps?
NO NO NO NO NO, just alpine, just check your metric thingies and see the difference.
Why voluntarily kill your own game mode by bringing back a map that most hate?

World Linking Schedule – How often should we relink worlds?
Every 2 months
Deployable Mortars – Do you want to be able to buy and deploy Mortars?
yes, nice idea
Deployable Cannons – Do you want to be able to buy and deploy Cannons?
yes, nice idea
Repair Hammer – Do you want to be able to spend supply to repair siege?
yes, nice idea

These are the type of ideas i like to see to spice things up, basic simple changes such as siege repair and different siege placement ability. It allows for creativity so things don’t get too dull and predictable.
Great work!

Soon!……….

McRib

I wish they would bring back McStuffins. Does anyone else remember those?

gotta admit, they didn’t spend much time on those

i like the idea
if not for a pet, just for items in general. I rarely rarely rarely do any pve since mobs (speed bumps) really don’t drop anything of value or anything unique thus no incentive to even visit 95% of the maps.
but if there were rare random items laying around it may be something to do if wvw is queued up.