Guild Wars 2

but at least they are talking more about the other stuff they are working on

we have heard you loud and clear and everything you ever hoped for is coming in the big overhaul we have planned in the near future. We do not like to discuss things until they are ready to be shipped so please be patient and rest assured, you are gonna love the changes
Until then, we are gonna dedicate 3 months of time and two or three publicity stunts and gem store outfits to celebrate the renaming of one of our favorite dragons in central Tyria.
Happy Gaming

definitely don’t like the direction the game has gone and find it kinda embarrassing how little communication there is about player concerns and issues on the OFFICIAL FORUM.

I only wvw so, needless to say, I don’t play as much since the intro of the new maps but regardless of the game mode played its a shame how the expansion has been handled and the number of hooks they place in all game modes to buy it.

i believe they have a fairly high turnover rate as many read about in their employment discussion for rating employers (don’t remember the thread name).
Thus, probably getting code worked on my multiple people in multiple steps trying to sort stuff out but…..who knows
Things that seem glaringly obvious to us may just be a drop in their daily bucket to them.
Not that I am defending ANET, just the coders, its a real clusterkitten to be sure.

Dibaryon.7469:

Metherlance.9204:

Why MUST you make a Star Wars-like character in a game that has absolutely nothing space-related? There is, keep in mind, a Star Wars-based MMO out there. If you want a Sith, go play that. I’m all for adding cool weapon skins to the gem store, but we already have the plasma weapons and a few other beam-like weapons. GW2 is GW2. If you don’t like the setting, that’s okay – but don’t expect the game to change just for you.

Easy buddy! I don’t want the game to change, just a light saber themed weapon. One weapon skin won’t break GW2, it will be OK. Besides it’s very possible to have a similar weapon with Asura technology

lol, best common sense response i have ever seen.
yeah, plasma sword and incinerator are exact same idea so if copyright infringement is possibility from this, it is already too late. Give the man a kitten light saber!!!!!!

nice
problem solved

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Akkeros.1675:

don’t think you can use it for armor or weapons, just accessories

try another sigil instead or check to see if it has off vs def stats..may work for armor but not weapon

You can use orbs in armor. Back at launch, ruby orbs in exotic armor was the cheap berserker meta. I’m pretty sure you can use orbs in weapons. Wiki says you can, it says any level 80 equipment, and I seem to recall doing it a long time ago.

yeah, i think you are right, i may be thinking jewel vs gem? don’t know the exact terms since i don’t use them (wvw infusion rather).
But i think some are offensive vs defensive right?

don’t think you can use it for armor or weapons, just accessories

try another sigil instead or check to see if it has off vs def stats..may work for armor but not weapon

then yes, very good idea

if you like meta-events, you are not a wvw guild
if you cared about changes to the shatterer, you are not a wvw guild
if you have tried out your gliders in open tyria just for fun, you are not a wvw guild
if you thought the HoT expansion synchronized well with _______, you are not a wvw guild.

Agree. Old format of information delivery so you knew what to expect was better.
But as goat says, don’t hold back on a fix for a release date.
If I have kitten in a fence in the winter do i wait to fix it during my big spring landscaping?
If i have a bill that is due tomorrow do I wait until i have five or six bills just so i can pay them all at once?

EremiteAngel.9765:

I used to get thrills from the loot drop in PvE in other MMORPG.
Farming NPCs, finding a valuable drop and whooping with joy.

GW2’s PvE?
The one and only time I got a precursor (worth about 300g at that time) was about 2 years ago.
TWO YEARS AGO.
THAT WAS THE LAST TIME I WHOOPED WITH JOY OVER A LOOT.
ever since then, I’ve never gotten a loot drop that was worth more than 50 gold.
The drop rate for valuables is really sad.

When was the last time you actually felt thrilled playing PvE?

I got introduced to WvW and never looked back.
This is the only place in GW2 where I can feel thrilled.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrwY7C26mzY

I agree with this post 100%
PVE has no function or purpose if there is little to no reward for killing the mobs.
In most games it is a way to obtain useful things for the open pvp aspect.
In that way if you are not fighting other players it doesnt feel useless going to attack some “elite” mobs…here it kinda does.

Blue gear is the new meta

it is a way to “encourage” you to buy hot
for me, it totally put me off. I had already bought HoT but usually will not go to wait on a meta-event just to get stuff out of principal alone

green keep eotm i think

The way i took it….the OP was saying revert the maps back in hopes of bringing back people that left (which affects lower tiers more) and if people don’t come back, merge some lower tier servers.

unbelievable topic to answer questions about

what creatures are we gonna move out of wvw?
what creature habitats can we eliminate there as well?
will it really hurt the ecosystem that bad if we destroy all the cliffs and switchbacks?
how about the humans that use to sit behind computers that i use to fight in wvw, do they count as creatures? can we go on a hunt for them, put them on some kind of endangered list?

creature creation……..disbelief

i can imagine what must have been going on during development.

day 1: idea drawn on a sketch pad during lunch, shown to upper management, upper management says, “hey, uhhh, looks good, let’s go with that” (new girl excitedly exits the room) one guy, let’s call him Evan, looks at the other and asks (while he is chewing a big bite of salad) “Jon?, could you see what that pic was for?” (small amount of spittle and dressing on the face). Not really, Jon retorts, good thing we hired her for her good loo…..ah, i mean computer skills…., not sketching on notepads….(small chuckle) right? says Jon..(looks down, shakes head while smiling, eats more salad. “computer skills”, small chuckle)

2 weeks pass.
Evan walks past new internists desk, says “Hey, aren’t you that girl that came into the lunch room the other day?”
“Yeah”, she says
Oh, welcome aboard, you working on a pve jumping puzzle or fractal or something?
No, this is the new wvw map u gave me the ok to work on.
Errrrmmmmm, ok (suprised smile on face)…..
hey, you know what, hold on, I’ll ….i’ll brb (Evan rushes away)

Okeedokee, laterz! says the internist as she twirls bubblegum around her finger.

(Lunch room door swings open with thud, Evan out of breath)
Jon!
..hmmm??
JON!!!!
J: What?! i am eating my tuna sandwich (small bit drops out of sandwich onto khakis)
E: That map that girl showed us…(out of breath)
J: what map (mumbles with mouth full)
E: that map, (catches breath) ……..it was the new wvw map!
J: eats tuna that dropped on khakis with a look of satisfaction
wait for it
wait for it
J: Oh SHI……..!!!!!

Rubi walks in, Hey guys, you ready to tell the world about the new wvw map coming out with HoT?
Uhhhhhhh
We are live on Twatch in 10 minutes.
Uhhhhhhhh

Ok,!! uh …. be right there.

3 mos after HoT
Meanwhile, in the lunch room (said like the Hall of Justice)
“Hey Evan?,”
Yeah Jon?,
E: i checked the metric thingies someone was talking about one time,
J: yeah?
E: don’t think the wvw populations are registering correctly?
J: dude, don’t worry about it, that was just an app for calculating tips at a restaurant, its not real.
E: Oh, (looks suprised and kinda confused)
laughter fills the lunchroom.

Today:
Yesssss, new glider skins, can i hit the button?, says the internist with child-like excitement.
sure, i guess, go ahead…, grumbles people in their cubicles

Baldrick.8967:

Only 8 more months before the next block busting changes to wvw! So expect hype to start soon, followed by a sneak peek and 3-4 months of more hype, and then finally the change will be announced: a new special colour dye and a new armor skin for wvw! Yay! Fantastic! Character bound on acquire, requires cs item to trigger, and 10,000 badges…..

After making such a big fuss of reverting a number of failed changes and introducing a changed rally mechanic, my expectations couldn’t be any lower.

By the time the ‘fix’ comes out the majority of us will have quit (I’m not counting EoTM numbers, uplevels/karma farmers, as EOTM isn’t a proper wvw map- doesn’t count towards score, etc).

agreed, the lack of communication for such a long time followed by announcements that push any feasible change so far out gets expectations up too high and when released it is always a disappointment do to its lack of depth, understanding of what players want (often going in the total opposite direction), poorly thought out complications caused by the change itself.
The pop has already seen this too many times and simply will be diminished permanently. If something is not done soon (like weeks, not 3 months from now advertising change 9 months from now) to legitimize their absence (ANET) and confirm an understanding of how their moves have put players off, any change made in the future will totally be in vain.

SkyShroud.2865:

u cant bring back the population

yeah, they have been fished to the brink of extinction

BUT, let’s take a step in the right direction anyway and go back to maps people want
until there is proof of something better

i bet a buffalo nickel it will bring more than there is now

and every single day that goes by with new maps = more frustration, more attrition, and more players feeling jaded.

But, i do agree, the damage may be irreversible regardless of what they do now, people will have just moved on.

its really starting to feel like ANET took the route of the “get a free bottle now for a limited time” then charges you 80 bucks for the next two months because you didn’t cancel your membership that you were unaware you signed up for.
I am sure if people try to call those companies they will get a busy signal coming from a phone in an empty rented storage shed.

It seems they may no longer have the talent left to work on, fix, or communicate what they are doing. There certainly is a high enough turnover rate there too they may only have a few or less original people left.

no no no no no no no no no no no

if you build a house blindly from beginning to end and nobody wants to live in it because the kitchen is outside, the bathroom is in the basement, and the bedroom is in the front entryway…do you just hire an interior decorator?

if there is a huge pile of poop on the ground, will smoothing out the edges make it not poop?

yeah, like i said, its also tier dependent.
I knew higher tiers didn’t put effort to defense.
Also, prior to the expendable expansion many knew changes were coming for HoT and didn’t wanna invest time and effort into builds that were gonna get reworked; thus, they took a break and waited to see what was coming.
In my tier (thus bias to my observations only), pugmanders lead ebg on reset while zerg busting (wvw only guilds) would stay at home with home defense if needed or if home defense had enough would go to enemy bl, flip, pressure, then move to ebg when pops started to settle down.
However, our home defense still existed and actually had grown quite a bit up until HoT. Now, 2 of the 3 leaders are gone and when I do see them (home defense) there is usually only 1or 2 at home and rest in ebg.

tl;dr
all i know is there was always something to defend at home before (bay especially), we always had ppl there, but if incredibly overwhelmed you called in the reinforcements. Now, you can call all you want (if there is someone to make the call) but no response.

DiogoSilva.7089:

mysterion.1276:

+1 best meta by far finally skill>op brainafk tank faceroll builds stacking.

“Skill” would have been the case if the balance team were to actually dedicate their time to retool existing skill sets and traits and add into them more playing potential, counterplaying, windows of opportunity, clarity and risk/ reward tactics.

Do you see the balancing team do this? Perhaps somewhat vaguely at best, yes, they do, at least as much as they can by opening an excel statsheet and tweaking numbers, which is to say, not much, while core mechanical and design issues keep getting ignored.

I think it is planned lack of attention. Let’s focus on class A and B elite specialization so people have to buy HoT to compete, neglect C D E F
In three months we will completely nerf A and B so people drop it for a while, purposely buff C and D, neglect EF, and so on.
Let’s get rid of amulet A to force amulet B and C which can only get stats/runes from HoT, thus if they wanna use, take into pve, wvw, gotta buy HoT

Just changing tower skins or slight changes in tower/keep wall setup every few months would have kept it fresh for new siege placement, new ways to attack and defend but they went frikkin crazy and really just killed it (not in a good way).

Swagger.1459:

I hope they remake the desert maps, they are just not good at all.

<sjs keydown (LEFT_KEY, function (]{
player.face.desert borderland
<sjs keydown (ENTER_Key, function(]{
destroy.desert borderland

just kill it, select all, backspace, delete, save changes: yes
p.s. i have no idea about code so please no criticism on my lil joke

oh, i and many others have learned the maps just fine, we simply just do not think they are ideal for the type of game-mode for which they are used.
WvW crowd likes change, it would be nice to change opponents when stuck in a tier, it would have been nice to have added a few variations to the old map but not change the strategic value and make it virtually worthless.
If you think wvw people hate most of the recent changes, then yes, you are correct. But there are obvious reasons for this and ANET does not see that, thus everyone has become unhopeful and salty. How can you blame them.
The call for the old maps back is just the simpler alternative because the community feels that ANET will be incapable of adjusting the new maps enough to make them tolerable and forget about the bad taste they left.
If you feel those that want the old maps back are the minority, how many good fights are you gonna get when it is you vs all that like the new maps?

How about just something to make it fun again?
Perhaps siege destruction of the new bl’s?
chests buried in the sand that can only be obtained by wvw shovels?
we can dig all the way down to a normal looking map even

Roads? Where we are going we don’t need roads.

Besides, everyone loves switchbacks!

mixxed.5862:

Akkeros.1675:

Just make a king of the hill event in open terrain with slight (and I mean slight elevation in the center with a circle/flag to camp.
Make ppk x5 for 30 minutes every 2-3 hours and let the event rotate borderlands.
This will be more wvw oriented without the gimmicks and without gathering (gathering anything over and over is the bane of all games, why add it to the group pvp area at all?)

That´d be great! The PPK going up for 30 minutes really would be an appropriate and fun reward!
But king of the hill promotes blobbing up I guess, because especially numbers will be deciding who holds the point longest.

Now I came up with this:
The team accomplishing most kills of enemy players in the oasis during the 5 to 10 min duration of the event will earn that 5x PPK buff for the next 30 min.
Killing a player that just left the oasis area will still count towards the event (countdown of 1 min).
The event rotates between the borderlands taking place once an hour.

That would reward skillful play/coordination more than dumb blobbing. A smaller group of more skilled players can still win against the blob having the clear number´s advantage, even if they wipe. The 20 man guild squad just has to kill 21 enemy squishies in the process

In all honesty I would just like to see a place where groups know other groups are gonna be, are looking for a fight, and have some kind of reward for it.
The reason I figured entrances would be good (similar to a spawn) is you are safe outside but if committed inside you are fair game. So, risk/reward. If a blob thinks they are big and strong enough to be surrounded by several skilled groups and can hold a center, let’em try

DeeSystm.1256:

Anet, your attempts are bad and you. should. feel .bad.

+1
was that james joyce?
(stepbrothers quote)

Similar to the post above.
How does one even form a community on the new maps?
If you defended home bl you all defended on a single map and took pride because the bl had YOUR NAME on it. You got to know the people over time, became familiar, and could somewhat coordinate sides of the map to take care of when needed.
Without WP’s to move around the terribly designed home bl maps everyone gets split (if they even bother to go to the home or enemy bl’s) thus everyone clumps up into a giant clusterkitten on ebg with no real since of community there other than what is spammed on /m or /t
Without the community, what keeps people there? the reward for winning each week? the crap dropped from bags or lords? more unusable hero points?

Agree with Yuffi
What is the point of home BL now?
Why not just condense it to two maps.

OP is correct and most know it.
The offensive abilities of pre-nerf revenant, the defensive abilites of druid…how is that balanced?
And those don’t count as a channel, the ele d/d earth 4 and 5 were channeled, the old warrior rifle f1 too

I do not think the OP is trying to cause a problem. He simply felt the preview and the patch notes did not match up…and, they didn’t. In some cases they were night and day.

Maybe mislead and strung-along should coincide. A lot of people love the game and I mean love it. They just want things to start going in a better direction due to a lot of let-down since HoT (in every aspect other than pve). Now they eagerly wait, hope for fixes and they never seem to arrive EVEN if they are lead to believe that they are coming ‘SOON’
I can’t remember the username but should give credit to him/her for describing this as:
I am tired of chasing the carrot.

Evan Lesh.3295:

This is a followup to the matchmaking changes in the recent patch where we fixed a problem regarding parties getting an unintended ‘slack’ in their matchmaking parameters. Previously, parties were getting matched against a wider range of opponents. Now that parties are getting much more accurate opponents, we can see that our rating boost for pre-mades is too high and the smaller roster sizes are winning too often. We are lowering the party rating boost a small amount to account for this.

Thanks for the continued feedback on matchmaking. Your posts lead directly to investigating gaps in our data which in turn lead to improvements of the system.

Evan,
You clearly keep up with forums and strive to make on-the-fly adjustments. Why is there no one doing this in WvW (or seemingly anywhere else)? There has to be data for reset night, problems with empty BL’s, population loss, power increases with no large scale defensive answer, etc…
Are you even able to look at WvW forums to answer a few questions, make a few comments, quell attrition, just say a few hopeful words?

Just curious. Keep up the good work. May the schwartz be with you.

Sorry to but in on this forum guys. Please disregard if I have offended anyone.

It honestly seems nothing important was done.
I just don’t know what to think anymore. Is there any direction, plans?
The list is long but its only quantity no quality.
If i did not read about the patch i probably would not have known anything was changed.

Forcing guilds to grind pve for emergency wp is about as lame as the “buy now and get a second one free…just pay processing and handling” gig in which p&h costs as much as the item itself.
Unusable wp’s in your own HOME bl is about as stupid an idea as I have ever heard. Totally asinine. And then when they fixed a so-called “bug” in which you have a few second window to portal in between defense events so you could never use it…just blows my mind in what they do and what they don’t do.

ANET WvW lead developer’s wife: “honey, does this dress make me look fat?”
ANET WvW lead developer: “ahh, sure babe, whatever, i am busy fixing stuff”

-2014 archived info prior to disappearance

briggah.7910:

WvW.. Best thing since sliced bread.

Which we will no longer slice, instead we are moving "forward’ and cutting the loaf into two end-pieces and a big chunk in the middle, we’ve been working on it for a year based on feedback that we have heard loud and clear so enjoy, cya in six months with an update

TheGrimm.5624:

Gudradain.3892:

Thx.

Is there still something to debate?

Actually, yes.

Does anyone have the same information on pre-new maps? The reason I ask is that in the Tiers I have been in, and after having been on SoR thru the whole rise and fall means saw some of all of them at one point, EB has always had more fights then the home borderlands since all three sides have the same playing field.

Leaving likes or dislikes aside or debating if people like or don’t, unless we can also see the percentages of how much the home maps were played prior to the switch over we can’t tell if the stats are the same or different.

Are there any APIs that pull older data out of the game? Not sure I have seen anyone mention one.

And cool use of the API, nice one.

How many home bl/defense oriented guilds do you see left?
For example Ehmry Bay had Ebay, Gates of Madness had GoM, etc…
Just compare their numbers in matches to what you see now and ask yourself where you see them more often now. How many active defenders do you see in fully fortified home bl keeps now?
To me it has been a total night and day difference. But that is just on my server, yours may be different.

i know what they were talking about but i never knew it was a vulture raptor, always looked like a spear with a ribbon stuck in the air

Went to home bl after logging into EBG and notice our side is ok and tag is halfway across the map.
Saw two people on my team after 30 minutes. Talked to myself in chat announcing air keep is being taken. Air keep gone. WP to Garri (or whatever it is called now) see swords, look around at all the directions i would have to check by myself to defend.
“B”
Run toward tag half way across the map, they go rt, i go right, they go left, my screen freezes….twice…zerg pops OS on my face, dead.
log out….close

End of the day at ANET:
Looks like another successful balance patch you guys….HIGH FIVES!!!
Hey, lets go read posts on reddit….HIGH FIVES
:/

Acheron.5193:

I’m sure that your amazing insight into the business and marketing strategies of ArenaNet, as well as your years of experience in said fields in similar companies, as well as your master’s degree in said fields and your overall intelligence will be taken into account when their next meeting regarding goals and funding is held.

Or, hey, maybe let’s let the marketing and business development teams figure out what to spend money on without criticizing everything they do.

Just a thought.

inb4 tl;dr response coppled with “i have a masters in business and marketing and i work in this field” out of your parents’ basement.

Acheron.#### where did you derive that name from? just curious

Also, many people would be quite surprised what degrees and insights many people that play this game actually have. I am not saying “everyone” posting here is an expert about “said” posts, yet many are far more qualified than you would find on a game forum 10 years ago.

psizone.8437:

Akkeros.1675:

why does everyone always forego the point of a post just to argue a small factor that doesn’t change the overall relevance?
you own HoT and have specializations you have advantage over not owning HoT and the rush to push out HoT might have overlooked how grouping buffs worked in larger comps. Does anyone disagree with that?

In terms of your argument? Not really since the likelihood of a guild group all entirely lacking HoT is low.

Buffs in general probably do need reworked quite a bit as it has lead to a lot of builds that are about as annoying to fight as the old celele was with considerably less effort involved.

see

Yeah, massive switchbacks, that is a GREAT IDEA!

Early success in a business can also create greed and may allow funding for foolish future investments/ventures which ultimately take the business down. I think the OP is pointing at that esports is just not working out. Cut the losses short and focus on your core game that allowed the funding for such ventures to begin with.

why does everyone always forego the point of a post just to argue a small factor that doesn’t change the overall relevance?
you own HoT and have specializations you have advantage over not owning HoT and the rush to push out HoT might have overlooked how grouping buffs worked in larger comps. Does anyone disagree with that?