Guild Wars 2

Please scrap this ToPiC

Since both dbl and alpine will be work, just give us alpine until you have time to work on the other, no rotation necessary, most people are just saying that to be civil

reward tracks for legendary wvw armor

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Friday, same time as before
Alpine maps
THIS WEEK
not six months from now

I doubt too many people will care if the new “features” work in the old alpine map. Nor do i foresee an enormous outcry if the alpine and desert bl can’t be readily swapped. I would just like to see alpine back until fixes are in place. Why can this not happen?

1. remove desert bl and replace with alpine with minor modifications (center map…but no pve…at all….none)
2. ability to buy new runes, sigils, ascended accessories with badges
3. new ranks unlock new wvw only legendary armor
4. remove banners, gimmicks
5. defense rewarded

i suggested an open arena in replacement of the oasis event. I think it is a good idea to have nice, mega-threeway fights for those that have no desire to ppt and don’t wanna look forever to find the action.
The idea was to have a open field, no siege placement allowed arena with an entrance facing toward each spawn that opened for 30 minutes every 2-3 hours. Whichever team got more kills, with a minimal number of kills (to avoid exploits) got a double ppk bonus for the next 30 minutes

the other $48 worth i am still owed from xpac 1

Gunner Morton.8340:

Loosmaster.8263:

To bring PvE’rs into WvW, you need to make it worth their while… REWARDS..

Who says we need PvErs in WvW?

can you imagine what it would be like for 30-40 regular pve’ers / tequatl specialists, wurm slayers, or shatterer fans to come into wvw for some rewards or guild missions and run into a organized gank squad or havoc group of 5-10. I would love to watch that

Anywho, yup, everything the OP said. I didn’t read it all but the first 3 or 4 paragraphs told me it was probably all good. So, turn on the old BL maps and we will help you with the rest, ANET. Let’s start Monday off right by addressing this in these forums.

Ayrilana.1396:

Not this again. Nothing has been shown to prove that HoT was a failure.

HoT did

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semi retired neurologist
teach college students 3 days a week and usually read the forums when I should be grading tests.
Don’t know what movie was out when i was born but by the time i was coherent i learned the 80s was the greatest decade and now that i think about it, my toons all have character names related to the 80’s :
Ree Deen Rainbow (ele) Ur Woodst Nightmare (necro) I Pitydafool, Green Land Turn, Ehm C Hammer (close enough to the 80s), Not dadroids urlknfr

if the majority of the community is upset with ANET and tired of broken promises then technically the ANET advocates would be the trolls in the forum wouldn’t they?

Lord Kuru.3685:

We still intend to eventually bring back the Alpine Borderlands map, but it’s not as simple as just toggling it back on. We don’t have the tech for rotating between the two borderlands built yet, and the map itself required a significant amount of content updates to support all of the features that were added to WvW as part of the HoT update.

LOL!!! So they want to spend valuable dev time adding to the old BL all the awful mechanics they introduced into HoT? Talk about having zero clue.

yeah, they can just toggle it back on and forget the rotate button for a year or two

Kal Spiro.9745:

Qugi.2653:

Ayrilana.1396:

Qugi.2653:

Maybe dumb question but why not here on official forum? I am sure you wait for that question.

Larger audience on Reddit.

Source?

Both people who have the game and do not have the game have access to Reddit, only those who have the game have access to here. That is, by definition, a larger audience.

People that don’t have the game do not know who.. or care about.. Mike, Colin, or anything Mike, Colin, and their companions have to say.
They do probably ask themselves, why is this game company posting on a site that is not their own? Are they too poor to afford a working forum? Are they lost? Are they looking for cheap advertising like companies that use craigslist to advertise every item they are selling (do not use that idea ANET)

I know this sounds too much like megaservers but i cannot imagine it would be too difficult to mix some silver and bronze league servers together to balance population as closely as possible. Put the metrics to practical use for one and take server A with 7 players, mostly NA prime and server B with 3 players in ocx
OR A with 5 B with 3 and C with 2 vs A1 with 6 B1 with 2 and C1 with 2 and they can apply for rotation if not ideal fits or chose not to apply for rotation if things are going well.
Servers stay together, have their own identity and meet more people.

a few months too late but:

1. get on YOUR OFFICIAL FORUMS
2. answer all the questions and address all the comments HERE
3. Hit the reset button

not to be a stick in the mud, but doesn’t “after” april mean anytime?
and was wvw not suppose to be the priority after HoT? or did they say the shatterer was the priority after HoT, i can’t remember?
If april was projected to be the actual test, would they not have concrete plans in place for March that are actually mentioned?

Best move for a new director would be to get on the OFFICIAL FORUM and start communicating with players.
If you do not have the technology to rotate back and forth between maps and admit to the necessity to fix/ improve the desert bl, then put the frikken alpine map back until you fix it. This might at least give you a population to balance. If not, it will make balancing kinda easy i guess, 5 people here, 5 there, and the top server can have 6.

sorry for the name joke, just trying to create a synonym but i could have my words and/or species confused.

I agree with everything you have said. Just looking at the forums between current status vs 1 year ago. As well as comparing different aspects of communication between each segment.
Thanks for the input.

true true vayne
and lol, EphemeralWallaby good point (are you descended from the trendykangaroo?)
+1 +1

lol, don’t take offense from the pve in general, it is only mentioned because threads that mentioned pvp or wvw get moved to those subforums and since there are only 3 game modes, this is the one pve has to fit in.

but like khisanth says, “general lack of communication everywhere” why is this?
just asking your thoughts

yeah, it is sometimes hard to know what to use for different aspects of the game at any given moment.
Personally I only play wvw thus I will usually have 2-3 ascended sets for each class/specialization along with various accessories/trinkets which can be shared as well.
The need for multiple sets usually depends on what you want to do. If you primarily roam, that will require a set if you want to be optimal vs if you wanna run with a group in which you may have a little more leeway (depending on what group you run with, lol). Either way, group play vs solo will have different benefits from different sets. Thus, if you start out roaming, then join a group, you may wanna switch on the fly.

If you plan to go to wvw as your main form of gameplay just consult with people on your server or metabattle.com wiki to get a platform to build from. You can then further personalize later. Start by using exotic armor to see if you like that style (e.g. pwr vs sustain, dps vs condi) and place your runes there if you wanna get them back out. Once you find your style you can make the appropriate ascended set.
Also, ascended armor in wvw can have wvw infusions used as well which you may want to add to your ascended set you already have.
Good luck and yes, it takes lots of time-gated time, lol.

p.s. in mentioning the time-gated part, celestial is one of those, one size fits all type pieces you can mix with multiple accessories and still not lack too much optimization.

Quick synopsis of forum overview:

Look at wvw subforum: everyone upset with maps and balance
Response: nothing

Look at sPvP subforum: everyone is upset with league matchmaking and class balance
Response: only if it deals with a bug

Look at general (pve mostly) forum: everyone talks about rabbit ears and general bugs found in gameplay.
Response: multiple, even if the tirade or event is only encountered by one person on one map that nobody else has gone too since doing map completion.

What is the cause for these discrepancies?
Opinions?

Where is the most fun in bronze?
Which server has the friendliest people that wanna win but just have fun too?

Agree with everything OP has said.
For those that want to discredit him or disagree with map layout try keeping it to one post.
Map layout is important and attracts or detracts from the fights considerably.
Balance ofc needs to be addressed but he is saying do “this” while you work on “that” and the vast vast vast majority of wvw players agree with this statement.

Its getting to the point where everything is too little too late. No matter what change they make and what they overhaul it will be for naught.

Do I want the Alpine maps back? Absolutely
Do I want them six months from now???? I think that would just make me more angry since they already had a temporary solution to wvw attrition and didn’t use it.

Does that mean I want to keep desert bl? kitten no, I just won’t be playing by that time to notice

Trajan.4953:

For the record CCCP is NOT about hardcore PPT. WE have always been about locking a server down and making Fites Guildz have to come and deal with us. The score controls the tier and we maintain it but, at the end of the day, it’s just about controlling the enemies guilds. If you don’t come and deal with us, you lose all your stuff, if/when you do, expect a bad Raid Time experience. It’s Havoc and manipulation and we love it.

I like cccp, they are always around for fights but it is hard for the other two servers to compete because combined we cannot muster the same coverage as one mag swag server.
C -woe-T will rise again to end this abomination, lol

Wouldn’t it be awesome if our original wvw designer/programmer was still around so we could crack his pw and fix stuff instead of having to come up with new reasons to say…..soon.

maybe they will get Troy Aikman or Kirk Herbstreit next season

i have no answer but i am curious to hear what a dev has to say about all of your points too.

grabs puffcorn (better than popcorn)

not a glitch but fun night

Only when standing at the bank in Divinity’s Reach. Other than that, really never. Even though it is called Fashion Wars 2 by many i remember a quote from someone in another post somewhere that said, “the only person that cares about what you look like is you” nobody else really notices.
But hey, if they do notice you, maybe you are doing something right.

Ricky.4706:

3 full servers of wvw guilds in the top tier is hardly “small” further, because of the neglect ….10 x that amount left. PvP’rs are by far the biggest community in any respectable game…the pve community is the small one …it only seems bigger here because the ‘extreme’ pve chased the pvprs away.

In fact, PVP is TRUE end game – it’s where legendary pve’rs go to fight the ultimate opponent. – no one wants to play the same routine game vs the same monsters thousands of time for years and years, thats just the training area for pvp.

somehow this minority pve insider community convinced anet that pve is end game… No …just No. Nothing can be further from the truth.

Yeah, ever since I started playing this game about 2 years ago and noticed so many pve oriented guilds that play the same boss/champs thingies day in and day out i continually just ask myself…why? Why do you care that you can beat a mob in a game? what is the point? Pvp and wvw is what pve is suppose to lead into. Here PvP and WvW is like the land of misfit toys from the old Rudolf claymation.

I mostly solo roam but my build ofc is super selfish, so if a pug group comes by and I wanna lend a hand gotta stand still and swap, catch up, run with them for a few moments, see a squirrel, chase, swap mid flight and repeat…so yeah, would be nice to have a tool

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Rastos.3812:

Just like the title says, does anyone out there have both of the weapons and have both equipped? I’m curious as to how the auras and effects stack if at all. I’ve recently taken a long break ( 1 year +) from the game and came back to check it out and have to say I love it. Went back to playing my Necro because I thought Reaper looked cool, and it is I have to say. Now that I’ve done most of the new content I’m looking at getting back into crafting legendary weapons again. I love the new pre cursor crafting, brings me back to the scavenger hunt style of EQ a long time ago. Anyway, I have Howler already and of course I’m going for Twilight, but I’m thinking after I might start working on Frostfang. I know that dagger is the meta for Reaper atm, but don’t really care, I like the range axe gives me on some bosses. But my question is, how do Howler and Frostfang stack or work together if at all. Can’t find anything on the web or forums to see if anyone has both equipped. I know someone out there has seen it or has it so let me know. Thanks.

Yeah
Main hand appears frozen with frozen footfalls and off-hand warhorn gives a fog/mist quality when running (not extremely noticeable). I have noticed a few changes in the moon appearance behind the howler as of recent though.

Gaile, since you are directing issues about communications here, can you shed some light on wvw in the official wvw subforum?
Also, i noticed you take care of the gw2 general section, evan seems to take care of pvp, who actually “officially” is suppose to communicate in wvw sections?

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me

MethaneGas.8357:

The new BLs are 10x better. People are just too busy sticking their head in their own butt to go and try it out. The old maps were utterly, utterly boring and there was nothing exciting about em. Come on, for like 3 years the mid part of the map was avoided like the plague… which is a huge chunk of the map and suddenly people forgot about this. Being entitled and spoiled and afraid of change doesn’t mean a map sucks.

*grabs popcorn *

i am unsure if you are being completely sarcastic or just mostly sarcastic but good point made.
Bring back old Alpine Map and put a large coliseum/amphitheatre with 4 entrances facing NW NE SW and SE (two for home, one for each spawn) for people to fight and ppt equal x2 within the structure.

Does any single dev or forum moderator or a single person on ANET’s staff just wanna drop in and say hello?

Thanks-
Your customer

Like you said, we really have no choice but to be patient.. but as we wait my server-mates keep leaving.
The are really gonna have to address something. Every time I see an announcement or twitch/guildchat thingy about league or pve my skin crawls, I shake my head, alt + f4

Its almost like a list of priorities got thrown into a basket and someone just draws out something random each week or 2

Manasa Devi.7958:

IndigoSundown.5419:

Manasa Devi.7958:

There’s a very easy solution. Make more than 4 merry-go-rounds. A respectable amount of content.

So, you’re fine with everything about the reward system except that there should have been more zones, each being its own meta event? How many more would it have taken to satisfy you?

The reward system would be fine if the main avenues of going about to acquire rewards would be more accessible, more numerous and more palatable. Too many variables there to pin down an answer to that question.

It seems there should be a method to obtain the currencies which gate better gear in a solo or group fashion. You are dependent upon large groups to coordinate on a single map to gain anything for hours worth of work sometimes. If you are not on the map, no reward for same amount of effort.

Ziggro.7482:

OP said everything i wanted to, but didnt know how to articulate, HoT is a mess, it tries to cater to hardcore public but does a very bad job at it, Ive always enjoyed gw2 because of it’s casual nature now i feel like i need to grind hundreds of stuff instead of just playing for fun like it used to be before this forsaken xpac, i really hope anet drops this e-sport and SPECIALLY the idea of hardcore pve content that brought a ton of elitism and grind to the game once advertised to be casual and just for fun.

Most of my friends, and my active since release guild are gone, the pvpers went to mobas because the pvp league is a joke(even tho they were always online pvping before hot) and the pvers went back to wow. I really hope anet can go back to pre-hot ideology at some point.

I stopped playing too, and lurk the forums every now and then hoping they go back to what made this game great some day.

this guy gets it

yeah, now better to have 5 groups of 5 then one group of 25 but still remain coordinated…
which is all fine and good but kinda less social than what i like. its no fun just having a small group in ts for hours on end (awkward silence pops its nasty head up too much) and its hard to coordinate multiple groups with a single driver talking unless they all know what to do to begin with

While i do not like the new meta by any means at least in open field, positioning (almost like a tactic) can be more important now than stacking or clumping.
I think that was ANETs whole idea behind the new skills, etc but may have gone a weeee bit too far.

esports is limited to basketball numbers 5v5?

gvg could be esports
wvw could be esports
heck, you could make a reality tv show about people’s ocd disorders over ppt or 2week long preparation strategies in some tiers about which guild does what.

wvw will always be better than spvp entertainment wise
besides how many people see announcements about the next league tournament on the gw2 official announcements page, roll their eyes, and say who the kitten cares?

IndigoSundown.5419:

Dashingsteel.3410:

Another thread where a player complains about other people complaining….

Asking “Why…” and saying, “I don’t get it.” is not complaining.

its passive aggressive complaining

NO
give old maps back or delete half of the new maps and all gimmicks
you can’t tweak the bad taste out of everyone’s mouths. People will cut off their own nose to spite their face to avoid it and i do not blame them. They are simply not conducive to the game style. DB is to wvw what the Diessa plateau is to gliding (just ignore that analogy if there are good gliding places, it just sounded flat to me…me=no pve)

If you play gw2 for pve you cannot notice the decrease in playerbase or activity because of megaserver. You may even like all the changes because there is plenty to do in pve world i guess.
If you play gw2 for wvw or pvp and you don’t notice the drop in numbers you are blind.

If someone makes an outrageous claim that gw2 is bankrupt or lost 90% of their players because of A B or C, yeah, you probably got a young kid trying to shake things up. Most of the cynicism in these forums, however, come from players that loved something, watched it fall, tried to help, got ignored.

I wish i could sell you all my tickets that i never use

Tspatula.9086:

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Have you noticed the atmosphere here is just like that story and recent movie about Vets calling the VA suicide hotline and getting sent to voicemail?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/02/15/va-suicide-hotline-oscar-winning-documentary-lets-calls-go-voicemail/80403618/#