Guild Wars 2

Falcor.5869:

I am happy to be on SBI server where it takes 2 allied servers to beat us. So which of you 2 servers is the man and which one is the woman?

Don’t forget, it is 2 allied servers, and several trolls burning our supply and taking up map space.

Star Playa can kiss my kitten . Tired of him on SBI BL.

I don’t mind 2v1, that is a fair strat. What I mind is the kitten hats that transfer to other servers and waste supplies, and queue space. Get this dude off our server already, kitten . Tired of cheaters in WvW. Games are supposed to be fun, and no one has fun when other players are gaming the system.

I have no respect in whatever server these trolls are from (probably YB, since we beat you by almost 200k last time, and you somehow beat us this time).

Good luck BP. Hope they don’t have people transfer to your server and troll you, like they are doing to us. Even tonight, we still have their trolls in our BL, wasting our siege, and kitten.

I’m rooting for you BP.

WhiteAndMilky.2514:

I’m pretty sure I remember them saying we would receive 100g each as reward right? Maybe it was 800gems. Or maybe it was a set of ascended armor. A free precursor for each of us? maybe +1000 achievement points? Thanks for rewarding us for all our hard work Anet! Looking forward to seeing what amazing prizes you have in store for us!

Surely it couldn’t just be a poopy finisher and another chest with some dragonite ore and a green item in it. That would just be silliness!

Nah, you are giving them too much credit. It will be a poopy finisher, and another chest with some ash lumber, and copper ore. And, a random chance at a white piece.

Jhawk.1360:

SBI you are imploding already? I’m disappointed….. we wanted to farm loot bags for weeks to come before the bandwagon ended.

Well, we just had 4 pretty boring blow out weeks, so people are probably doing other things. Plus 2 consoles just launched, and some people are probably studying for finals that are coming up.

Some people are most likely taking it off because of the previous blow outs, and are concentrating on other stuff. But, it isn’t lookin good at the moment. At least we aren’t as bad off as SoR atm. We didn’t lose any guilds recently, that I am aware of.

Runehand.9368:

Btw, Ebay and Yaks never had an agreement. SBI is just terrible without blowing their load on numbers.

I prefer to blow my load on Jessica Alba, thank you very much.

Where did Iron transfer to?

KilJoker.4953:

Johje Holan.4607:

Day 2 now and we’re getting our butts kicked. Yaks did you all get some more people or is SBI just not showing up? Cause this is whack.

yeah Yak are big and bad now..

how do you feel to be awesome for a change..??

kitten SBI, what has happened to us? I know YB doesn’t have more people than us, so are we having communication issues again, or are people just tired of doing WvW?

We need to stop the bleeding, or catching back up during the week is gonna be rough.

Ayrilana.1396:

Doomdesire.9365:

You can’t get the rewards anyways, but there still shouldn’t be transfers during leagues because of the potential for imbalance.

We all know of a certain server that ruined an already balanced leagues with their buying of a certain guild, let’s not let that happen in S2.

Prove that they were bought and not offered assistance after they had decided to transfer. Prove how much was actually given to them.

Whether they paid them money to transfer, or not, doesn’t really matter. The fact is that guilds have the right to transfer to any server they want to. So, who cares if a server pays them or not. I personally wouldn’t want to farm gold, just to pay for people to transfer to my server. Seems like a waste of time. But, that is a choice that other people can make, and if they want to do it, then that is their right. That is how they want to play the game, and it is well within the rules of the game.

Sam Gem.1246:

Why is JQ and SoR playing dead? I mean, JQ was doing well for the first few days, then I hear SoS was bought by BG. SoR didn’t cooperate after a few days. Why is this happening?

I think the majority of us forum readers are really getting tired of t1 conspiracy drama. The fact of the matter is BG has more coverage during the week than JQ, and SoR hasn’t done well since the 2nd matchup with BG.

Sam Gem.1246:

Andrew Clear.1750:

On the flip side, the reason it isn’t competitive is US. The players. We stacked the servers.

Speak for yourself. I bet you are in BG now. Was the money worth it?

Been on SBI since day 1.

Doomdesire.9365:

You can’t get the rewards anyways, but there still shouldn’t be transfers during leagues because of the potential for imbalance.

We all know of a certain server that ruined an already balanced leagues with their buying of a certain guild, let’s not let that happen in S2.

This is the kind of behavior that I have been complaining about on these forums. I swear T1 servers live in a bubble, and think that they are God’s gift to WvW.

“potential for imbalance”

There was a lot of imbalance way before leagues even started, in the “lower class of servers.” Guess we all can’t be as good as the balanced 3 at the top. The reality is, your server, and the other 3 that live in the bubble, have gone out and recruiting guilds to your servers. This had lead to even greater imbalances across WvW.

And you have the audacity to act like a victim.

SleepingDragon.1596:

Sam Gem.1246:

Or remove any rewards associated with being first, otherwise the people who get the rewards can now brag amongst themselves, for the rest of us will just play another game.

The way I see it is that if the rewards are to be given, all players who participated in WvW and completed their accomplishments gets equal rewards for their contributions regardless of servers or tiers. The rewards for being first, second and third on each of their respective league only gets like a temporary reward that distinguishes their rank/win until the next season. Then it disappears and starts all over again…

It is a competition. Not everyone will win. Period. Awards based on where you place, is just. Is the scoring fair? Yes and No. The reality is, the more people that you have 24/7 the better chances to win. Some of the servers have no chance of getting that first place award. Who cares. It still is a video game. Sure, people will be mad that they didn’t get first, just like any other competition. But, there will always be future seasons. Hopefully, something will be done about the scoring system in the next 6 months, or so, that makes it more competitive.

On the flip side, the reason it isn’t competitive is US. The players. We stacked the servers. We transferred from one server to another. We zerg, etc. We have, and always will, find a way to use the system to our advantage. Now, I never transferred, and a lot of people haven’t, but plenty of people have. Also, plenty of guilds have been “bought” as well. We can’t just blame anet for all the problems in WvW, when we cause a lot of them ourselves.

headraver.4862:

so here’s the problem with wvw were theres one server that totally dominates the other two because they have 60 man zergs on every borderland weres the balance in that?its no wonder servers give up on going into wvw they see no point in playing a part of a game were its so unfair i reckon if the ppt was much closer on all 3 servers the servers would have somthing to fight for!

Hey now, wait. We have 60 mans on every map? Please, most of that week (not weekend) we had little to no presence on SBI BL

We would normally queue a BL, and EB, and have a good presence in the other. Yeah, I know, that is why we win. Coverage and numbers.

I do want to say, that I have enjoyed the fights you have put up. Borlis Savers has been fun to fight against.

SleepingDragon.1596:

ANet needs to stop transfers during seasons if there is another one to be. Anyone who transfers while the season has started, allow them into PVE and SPVP where the impacts of their presence won’t make a difference. The recruiting of guilds and such should happen before and after the season ends. At the end, perhaps eliminate the season altogether as it is a broken system that ANet could not figure out how to balance things out. Who likes playing in matches where they blowout the opponents by more than double digits? Nobody wants to play on either side. It makes matches boring. Shorter matches might help? Instead of 1 week, perhaps make it 3 days and it resets. 1 week of a lopsided match is too long to endure.

Another person from t1 complaining. Why is that? I don’t really think that most of us below gold league really care about the transfers during seasons. I know, some of us benefitted from those transfers, and some of us didn’t. Some of us were victims of transfers. But, it was the same thing that has been happening to 21 of the 24 servers in NA during the course of the year.

You have a lot of our former guilds, and now you have the audacity to want to say that people can’t leave during the season. What about those people who transferred off your servers to lower tiers, because of queues and/or drama? Would you force them to stay on your servers, and be unhappy for 7 weeks, just to placate you? They bought the game too, and want to have fun. If they want to leave, then let them.

I also don’t see you guys actually caring about SoS, Mag, or TC. You don’t really care about anyone but your little trinity. Start thinking about WvW as a whole, so we can actually have the game mode for a while, and maybe even have it improved for the whole community, not just your trinity.

selan.8354:

well the problem with transfers during leagues is, that u already know who u are facing and therefor place spies. so lets say u know next week u will be facing for example sor with your server( the server u started with and will get the rewards for).u can transfer a few players over to sor and sabotage the server to help your server with sabotaging and spying. then afterwards u transfer back. so there is a lot of griefing happening in leagues. anet should have locked the transfers for the leagues.
griefing and spying has been a problem. the people that transfer to a winning server arent gonna get much out of it as they will get the rewards for the server they started on.so no problem there.

Nah, don’t punish legit players for the actions of a few. More people have transferred servers due to queues and other legit factors, than the few who have transferred to grief other servers. And, I haven’t heard of that crap really happening in Silver league, so it must be limited to a SoR, JQ, BG case. And, that is rather pathetic. Why do those 3 servers have to be the drama queens of WvW? Quit cheating, it isn’t really helping any of you win. Quit complaining that WvW isn’t fair when you are losing. It is really getting annoying.

Dark Adonis.5096:

next time can it possibly be mades so that if you xfer during the season you negate all wvw rewards? or hell.. i dont know there has to be something you can do to prevent this from happening!

i find it pretty annoying that when things are so close and things are in BGS favor tons of our players and good commanders jump ship and go to BG to get the reward. to all of you that did leave jq for bg shame on you! and remember the only reason they took the lead to begin with is because they tag teamed us in round 1..

its not over yet! i hope we can catch up and teach you all a lesson

I just knew this was gonna be a T1 complaint thread.

You guys stacked servers for leagues, and then complain when people transfer off?

And, people who transfered off of JQ for BG during the season, will still get rewards based on where JQ finishes, not where BG finishes.

Just think about how BG will feel when people transfer from them to you or SoR, or another server, once the season is over.

Why does everyone (including Anet) use this “meta” term? No idea what it means, and it sure doesn’t come close to any dictonary meanings of the word meta.

I’m the worst WvW player.

Yougottawanna.7420:

The user interface is slower, and when you’re trying to get into a BL on reset night, seconds count. The merchants on the portals meant that several guilds couldn’t get their commanders in.

I find it to be faster. Once you see the xp bar in the window, you can then work on entering the BL.

Works for me lately. I haven’t been stuck in the queue on reset night for awhile now. Although our commander didn’t make it in last night.

Calae.1738:

lunacrous.6751:

DevonCarver.5370:

Chuck Zitto.2367:

We need more things to use them on or to atleast be able to sell them. Myself and tons and tons of other people have gotten to the point we just destroy them. They take up inventory space.

Without giving any specifics, I’d highly recommend you change that strategy. There are things coming soon that will give you lots to spend it on.

So then, we can safely assume that dragonite gains will be significantly improved for WvW players prior to or simultaneously with these new uses for it? Right? Surely this won’t be a way of excluding those of us who don’t already have eleventy-billion dragonite from character advancement.

The only people who are swimming in empyreal and dragonite are those who play on stacked servers. The only people who will be getting all the empyreal and dragonite needed for ascended armor in a reasonable amount of time are those who play on stacked servers.

There’s a gem purchasing initiative in there somewhere.

I’m swimming in Dust and Stars. I don’t PvE much, so swimming in Dragonite isn’t possible for me. Also, the guild I am in, on SBI, actually does defend stuff, so I don’t karma train as much as some others. I personally think the fun of defending and assaulting a highly defended objective is more fun than karma training, and farming dragonite.

Prysin.8542:

DevonCarver.5370:

Chuck Zitto.2367:

We need more things to use them on or to atleast be able to sell them. Myself and tons and tons of other people have gotten to the point we just destroy them. They take up inventory space.

Without giving any specifics, I’d highly recommend you change that strategy. There are things coming soon that will give you lots to spend it on.

indeed, as you guys promised full ascended gear within 2013… which means that armor will be released sometime before new years eve. And considering the prices to make ONE weapon… well, you guys better fix the “grind fest” soon, or only a select few will ever get to craft ascended stuff

I’ve already crafted 3 weapons. It might be somewhat of a grind, getting the mats, but it does keep me busy. Especially when I get stuck in the queue.

Thee Whitey.5476:

DarksunG.9537:

Nope, they are going to keep hammering on us with Scarlet until we admit she is amazing.

SCARLET IS AMAZING! Can i have my expansion now???

Why ask for an expansion, when you are getting all this content for free? Sure it isn’t permanent, but you blow through it as fast as you would expansion content.

Permanent content will find its way in, and they will probably add some more areas (like the crystal desert, etc) as time goes on. They said they aren’t gonna add any new professions for awhile, nor any new weapons. They did say they might make more weapons playable for each professions.

Maybe they might add a new playable race in the future. They do add dungeons during the living story.

What would an expansion really offer, other than a way for NC Soft to make more money from a box?

I think you need to give the living story a fair shake, and quit crying every 2 seconds about it. They are getting better over time, while still tweaking and adding to the rest of the game. Let the story play out. Do you cry every week during a mystery tv show, because you want to know what is going on? Then the villain is introduced, with little back story, and then you do what? Cry some more?

Let the story play out.

Solstice.1097:

also then if server A caps all of server B’s border, it doesn’t give them a point lead over server C.

Then why even bother leaving your own BL to cap something? There would only be fights in EB, if you can’t get points for other BLs.

little ceasar.9254:

Andrew Clear.1750:

little ceasar.9254:

Simple fix: put a marker on the map that will follow the movement of any group over xx size.(similar to crossed swords). Now large groups are easy to avoid, easy to track, and easier to counter.

lets put a marker on the map for small groups, so they can be attacked, and squished.

Seriously, if you get killed by the zerg, you get killed.

Plenty of times there is a group of 3 to 5 that will kill one person who is running by. Should we put a marker on the map and show them so people could avoid them?

I can sympathize where you coming from with play how you want and don’t punish people for it. However, in many situations the population imbalance is literally killing the wvw populations for many lower servers. My solution doesn’t offer a debuff or anything that hinders people in any way. What it does do is offer a chance for servers that can’t field 60 people to just roam another tool to compete competitively, and a risk to commanders trying to use brute force.

I can relate to lower pop servers. I still remember SBI’s free fall from the top, to rank 15. Getting stomped every week by Mag or SoS for a few months, and being able to compete with CD for 2nd, til they started to spank us as well. But, what you are asking for will take effect on every server, and thus would negatively effect higher pop servers.

little ceasar.9254:

Simple fix: put a marker on the map that will follow the movement of any group over xx size.(similar to crossed swords). Now large groups are easy to avoid, easy to track, and easier to counter.

lets put a marker on the map for small groups, so they can be attacked, and squished.

Seriously, if you get killed by the zerg, you get killed.

Plenty of times there is a group of 3 to 5 that will kill one person who is running by. Should we put a marker on the map and show them so people could avoid them?

Chris.3290:

LostBalloon.6423:

I’ve seen more underhanded methods used to get a win by whatever mean necessary in the first 2 weeks of league (specially 2nd) that I’ve seen since the launch of the game… -_-

OMG, this again. How many threads must the QQ permeate?

I guess we really have to ask the question, “How many threads are not QQ threads?”

Zanshin.5379:

Andrew Clear.1750:

I actually am starting to understand the story somewhat, but I would really like to get some more backstory on Scarlet, and would like to know why she is doing this, and what is her endgame.

What story?
She’s bad and crazy, so she manipulated two races of villains to build a tower in order to… do what exactly? Nothing.

She is playing with us, like the Joker plays with his prey.

Listen to how she is always making stupid comments in the chambers, that is something the Joker would do.

Story wise, she created toxins that cause us to hallucinate. She found a way to create some weird krait monster. She found a way to get the Krait and Nightmare court to work together.

Yep, she built another alliance. This living story is supposed to unfold throughout the months. I am pretty sure the alliances are almost done, and we are gonna start seeing the endgame soon.

The image for the next patch shows some of the tower along with some kind of Asuran technology. Doubt there is an alliance there, so lets see what is gonna be up.

Thank you for actually posting something positive on the forums. Too many people whine in here.

I agree with you, anet has done a good job on WvW, and they are still working on it, even though the percentage of players that play WvW is low.

I play WvW for fun, and I even have fun when I am getting stomped. I love WvW, and I accept it for what it is, not what I want it to be. I trust Anet will improve it over time.

RyuDragnier.9476:

Boonprot.6274:

Also, and I’m speaking from experience here, a 20-25 man group can most definitely hold off a 50-60 man blob. It requires a good group comp, people listening on VOIP, and good movement, though, so good luck with pugs.

We had all that. We were holed up in Garrison, keeping them from taking over as long as possible. 3 hours of work, and we finally fell because we couldn’t keep the small team of 3-5 grabbing supply and doing patchwork on the holes in the garrison fast enough. Twas a leaky boat, and she finally sank at the end of those 3 hours. Despite being trebbed at NE, rammed at Watergate, and golemed on east, we survived 3 hours. If that tells you how bad it was.

That actually sounds like a lot of fun. A lot of decisions on how to spend supply. A lot of fights. Some small and large victories on both sides. Very fun.

How about this, the devs have stated over and over again that they do not want to discourage zerging.

People like to zerg, and I understand that you do not like to zerg. There is room in WvW for both play styles.

I noticed no one is posting on the forums about how to get rid of havok groups and roaming groups.

How about we just let people play the way they want to play.

Zephyrus.9680:

Andrew Clear.1750:

The reward for defending usually is fun. Last night, CD and SBI fought over CD’s t3 bay for a good 2 hours, with the last hour being non stop fighting. They had more numbers, and kept waypointing in. They wiped us once, we came straight back, knocked down the inner gate again, and kept going at it. We eventually took their Bay. It was a blast, and I am sure CD had a blast too. All their people from EB even came over to fight in that.

Instead of defending bay, they could’ve ran around their BL and taken back all their possessions (which were under BPs control). Instead, they wanted to defend bay. My guess is, because it was fun. All that fighting was a blast.

They got tons of bags for defending, and we got tons for assaulting. What is this garbage about defense. It has its own rewards.

Why do people play WvW? Is it for the Karma? XP? Or is it for fun, and the loot is an added bonus?

You’re only kidding yourself here.

You get tons of bags for defending, NOT attacking. If you’re actually defending a spot, the attackers will move to another objective because they don’t want a long siege that gives no rewards except ‘fun’. Then they’ll come back when no ones there to defend.

The no-defense K-train meta works for PPT AND for rewards. Look at BG’s score. ALL they do is K-train and an occasional garrison defense which is basically what everyone’s doing. In the match with BG SoR Mag on all 4 maps there’s a total of 1 waypoint. No defense works for PPT and it brings good rewards. Fun is subjective and a lot of effort with little or no reward is generally less fun.

The system has always been broken though the meta only became k-train after everyone realized it.

Again, people defend. People attack. Sure you will run off if the place seems like it is too hard to take. That is just common sense. So, you run to another place to take. A lot of servers that I have faced, will run over to that place and defend it as well.

It is fun to defend, you get good fights. I am not kidding myself about anything.

Pyroatheist.9031:

One of the biggest problems with defense is that it never happens.

Don’t use the never word when you can’t vouch for every guild on every server.

As I mentioned, CD defended their bay last night for hours.

SBI defends, Mag defends, FA defends, BP defends, etc. There is a lot of defense in WvW, I don’t understand why people keep saying that it never happens.

Best battles in WvW usually come from a server attacking something that a server is defending.

I loved the setting of this months living story. The destruction of Kessex Hills, and the Tower has really made the world feel like it has changed some. I applaud you for going outside the lines with your patch philosophy.

I would like to say that I play this game for what it is, and not for what I want it to be. I understand the amount of work involved in making a game, and how much planning goes into it. I am confident that Scarlet will be fleshed out over the months, and I know I have to wait, due to the amount of work it takes to make each patch.

You guys have worked kitten this game. Actually, you have provided me with more than what I could actually ask for. I pre-purchased the game before launch, and have only spent 10 dollars on gems. The amount of content that I have received for that much money has been incredible. Thank you very much.

I will say that there were plenty of living story patches that I didn’t enjoy, but I am not one to come onto the forums and complain about them. I just found other things to do in the game. I mainly play WvW, but I do play living story stuff that I find interesting.

I would love to know what happens if we don’t take out the tower before the next patch? Is there just a counter for the antitoxin variable that just increments based on some time value, or does it actually take in contributions from each player? If each player, does it account for overflow contributions? Will the tower be destroyed at the same time on all servers, or will it be based on each server individually? I would really love to know this, since that would really make this more of a living world.

Love you guys, keep up the hard work.

Honestly, the story for this LS patch was very good. A lot of story added into this one, if you take the time to read it.

Anet, this LS patch was amazing, compared to past ones. I love running in that tower, and doing the nightmare chambers with my various characters. I hope you can keep it up, and maybe improve on it.

I actually am starting to understand the story somewhat, but I would really like to get some more backstory on Scarlet, and would like to know why she is doing this, and what is her endgame.

At the moment, I am just comparing her to a Sylvari version of The Joker. Seems she just likes to cause chaos for chaos’ sake.

bloodletting wolf.2837:

Andrew Clear.1750:

I am starting to think that WvW players cry too much. Who cares about the toxics. Kill them or don’t.

I know they kill Dolyaks. I know they can kill sentries. I have seen them even attack a keep. Who cares. They aren’t legendary, and are as easy, if not easier, to kill than a sentry.

This is just a bunch of cry babies, crying again, because all they want to do is cry about anything anet does to WvW.

If I was anet, I wouldn’t even try to work on WvW with all the cry babies that post on the forum.

Why can’t we have serious discussions on the forums, that do not involve crying over something?

You where just crying about crying and that makes me want to cry.

I think we should all cry, about all this crying.

Mosharn.8357:

Please remove these toxic guise from wvw. They have no meaning to be in wvw. They become a major annoyance and dont even belong there since its the mists. Please anet have mercy lol.

I don’t care that they are in WvW. Our guild normally just skips them, unless they are attacking a doly we are running by.

But, I do want to know how the toxics made it to the mists? How in the lore is that possible?

elikal.7356:

Grr… I tried to get the Achievements for Season 1 WvW, but I just CAN’t get the Merc Camp or the Demolition Achievement.

Merc Camp: can SOME programmer PLEASE remove those Toxic Plants from there? They are SUPER annoying! I doubt anyone who goes there cares for the Toxic Plant! They make it for small groups nigh impossible now to tag the Ogres to get the achievement!

Also, Demoliton. Sigh. If you dont have Ram Mastery, NOBODY lets you do the stuff. Plus, it depends way too much on lucky WvW matchups! If you have an overpowering enemy, or your server overpowers the enemy, how can you attain that, when the enemy doesn’t HAVE keeps or your server has no chance?

The rest is ok, but these two Achievement parts are just WAY too fickle and diffcult to get atm.

Honestly, with all the complaining about Toxics, this is really the only place that they hinder WvW. They are really hurting people from getting their merc camps achievement.

On the other hand, you don’t need to use seige to get the demo achievement. I would just PvD with the zerg, and I got the achievement.

The reward for defending usually is fun. Last night, CD and SBI fought over CD’s t3 bay for a good 2 hours, with the last hour being non stop fighting. They had more numbers, and kept waypointing in. They wiped us once, we came straight back, knocked down the inner gate again, and kept going at it. We eventually took their Bay. It was a blast, and I am sure CD had a blast too. All their people from EB even came over to fight in that.

Instead of defending bay, they could’ve ran around their BL and taken back all their possessions (which were under BPs control). Instead, they wanted to defend bay. My guess is, because it was fun. All that fighting was a blast.

They got tons of bags for defending, and we got tons for assaulting. What is this garbage about defense. It has its own rewards.

Why do people play WvW? Is it for the Karma? XP? Or is it for fun, and the loot is an added bonus?

Sounds like a lot of PvD during peak times.

Stand The Wall.6987:

Andrew Clear.1750:

Stand The Wall.6987:

its all because the toxics kill supply yaks and anet wont do anything to fix it. another sign that pvp is favored over wvw.

I find it hard to believe that you can protect your yaks against people, if you can’t even protect them against toxics.

i personally dont protect yaks, but thats not the point either, now is it.

Kind of is the point. The toxics really shouldn’t be bothering people. They are only gonna be there for a month and then gone. No big deal. Kill them or skip them, who cares. But no, we have to start a post and cry about them. And, they are not brining in floods of PvE players into WvW.

Though, they can hurt some peoples merc achievement stuff in EB.

Gudradain.3892:

Title says it all.

You know what the big problem about scoring is? It’s some random server ticking at 600 PPT while you sleep gaining so much points that there is no way you can come back even if you play all day long.

Limit PPT to 230 max per server and problem solve.

If you want to win a match up, you have to put constant effort. Not just PvDooring while everyone is asleep.

The funny part is, that that random server is ticking 600 while some of their people are awake, and some of yours as well

Junkpile.7439:

NA can already play in new www map. Why we can’t?

I didn’t even know that NA could.

Stand The Wall.6987:

its all because the toxics kill supply yaks and anet wont do anything to fix it. another sign that pvp is favored over wvw.

I find it hard to believe that you can protect your yaks against people, if you can’t even protect them against toxics.

Chaba.5410:

On the other hand, what purpose do Toxics in WvW serve? All they do is pull PvE-ers into WvW who have little interest in WvW beyond that. So why not put Toxics in tPvP to pull more PvE-ers into tPvP? /sarcasm Same logic, no?

Toxics, btw, do not pull PvE players into WvW. The WvW achievements do, but not toxics. There are no Living Story achievements, that are part of the Tower of Nightmares stuff, that requires you to go to WvW to achieve them.

PvE players will just do that stuff in Tyria, not the mists.

And, btw, WvW is not only your game mode. PvE players can come in and play when they want to, same as with tPvP, and sPvP. Everyone bought this game, and can play it how they want to.

So many people in WvW that believe they are leet, and special.

grabemx.9836:

Andrew Clear.1750:

grabemx.9836:

Andrew Clear.1750:

I am starting to think that WvW players cry too much. Who cares about the toxics. Kill them or don’t.

I know they kill Dolyaks. I know they can kill sentries. I have seen them even attack a keep. Who cares. They aren’t legendary, and are as easy, if not easier, to kill than a sentry.

This is just a bunch of cry babies, crying again, because all they want to do is cry about anything anet does to WvW.

If I was anet, I wouldn’t even try to work on WvW with all the cry babies that post on the forum.

Why can’t we have serious discussions on the forums, that do not involve crying over something?

Spoken like a true PVE’r. You are in this forum why?

Actually, I spend the majority of my time in WvW. I just don’t cry over everything like you guys do.

The guild I am is mainly a WvW guild, and they don’t cry over these toxics.

I guess you guys must not have enough skill to kill them. Or are they slowing your karma train down?

A dude from SBI speaking about karma trains? perhaps you missed yours in your blob.

Nope, we karma train just like the rest. But sometimes, we park the train and defend. Sometimes, we just seek out fights to train some bags, cause who really cares about karma sometimes?

But, none of that matters in respect to this topic. We just don’t care about toxics. Kill them, skip them, whatever. They don’t bother a lot of us.

Chaba.5410:

Waaaaaaaaaaay better idea right here!!!!

Toxics already fight with yaks and sentries. They should start attacking NPC guards at supply camps like ogres, dredge, hyleks, and formerly the quaggans do. They should also spawn in the lord rooms at towers and keeps too. Then there will no longer be any need for actual players in WvW. Rejoice! /sarcasm

Have seen them fighting with guards at a keep.

grabemx.9836:

Andrew Clear.1750:

I am starting to think that WvW players cry too much. Who cares about the toxics. Kill them or don’t.

I know they kill Dolyaks. I know they can kill sentries. I have seen them even attack a keep. Who cares. They aren’t legendary, and are as easy, if not easier, to kill than a sentry.

This is just a bunch of cry babies, crying again, because all they want to do is cry about anything anet does to WvW.

If I was anet, I wouldn’t even try to work on WvW with all the cry babies that post on the forum.

Why can’t we have serious discussions on the forums, that do not involve crying over something?

Spoken like a true PVE’r. You are in this forum why?

Actually, I spend the majority of my time in WvW. I just don’t cry over everything like you guys do.

The guild I am is mainly a WvW guild, and they don’t cry over these toxics.

I guess you guys must not have enough skill to kill them. Or are they slowing your karma train down?

Chris.3290:

Nick.6972:

Platinum – BG/SOR/JQ
Gold – TC/FA/SBI/MAG/SOS/Yak
Silver -
Bronze -

A better option, but people would still complain.

Any kind of mechanism that discourages stacking, or at least an end to updates and changes that reward that kind of behavior would go a long way to fixing things.

Item 1: scrap leagues. It’s pointless to give default rewards to servers in the Silver and Bronze league based upon how the mixture of RNG and fairweather tanking may have placed them.

But, people would just stack the favorites in the other leagues, so it wouldn’t help at all.

Plus, t1 isn’t special, they do not deserve their own league.

azizul.8469:

Andrew Clear.1750:

azizul.8469:

reduce map cap. by 50%.

Won’t happen. People want large scale battles, so reducing the map cap will only hinder that. Plus, people aren’t filling up maps on the lower servers during off hour coverage anyways, so a reduction in map cap is useless.

says a person on a stacked server…..

Pfft, considering my server wasn’t that stacked all year long.

I understand the lack of coverage causing us to lose, almost everytime. I understand getting farmed.

Reducing the map caps by half will not help you on off hours coverage, which is when you get thumped most the time in WvW. If you can’t fill a whole map in off hours, what will a 50% reduction really do?