Guild Wars 2

I’m an sbi lifer, so I am biased, but it would be hard to pass up a community as resilient as this one.

I remember when we were at the t1 block party. The party was good, up til the point our friends put an anchor on us as they walked out the door. We sank, but we got the anchor off of us halfway before getting to the bottom. We doggy paddled there for awhile, until some people decided to jump in the water with us. Together we swam for shore, and got close enough to that t1 party that we could hear some music.

We’ve been abandoned, and have forged some great new relationships over the past year. We are currently in tier 3, and did float up to tier 2 for a quickie. We have great fights with the other servers in tier 2 and 3.

Our SEA group is strong, even though they can get outnumbered by SoS and DB, they still perform very well. Our NA is strong, and can perform well against Mags impressive NA guilds. Our EU does lack the coverage, but they have improved over the past few weeks.

We support all types of styles of play, from zerg busting, to zerging. From havok groups and roamers, to people who defend camps, towers, and keeps. You can play your way.

Due to contrary belief, we don’t really map blob. We normally run in guild groups, and if one is outnumbered, you better believe that another group will come and support them.

So, in short, SBI is a great home for WvW players, and also a great place for PvE. Hope to see you in the mists, if you decide to run with us, and hope to have great battles with you if you decide to be with someone else. No matter what, it all comes down to having fun.

I love when Zeal is running in a BL with us (Abyss). They are a great guild, and fun to hang with.

I can’t wait to see, in about 2 to 3 weeks, to see how EoTM affects the server rankings. The first night was brutal on some of the top tier servers (FA being the biggest loser on night 1). CD, was getting spanked by HoD during the night (and CD had been spanking HoD until then). Gonna be interesting.

Virtute.8251:

Everything CrimsonNeonite said… spot on.

Grav… its not that ANet doesn’t care about that. The true fact is that these first years (yes, years) of WvW will absolutely not be about that, and were never designed to be.

The scoring, by the way, is purely to sort the leaderboard and encourage the competition. When we perceive it as more, than that is on us, not ANet.

After playing in EoTM, I actually like the scoring in the Mist War. I feel a sense of purpose in regular WvW. I feel the competition, and the drive to win. In Mist War, I feel it is a karma train that has no meaning. The map is awesome, and I hope they bring some of those elements into Mist War. Since there is no real incentive to win (I don’t care about the supply drop, since you might only have 4 kitten people in your BL because they are all in EoTM), I have no real incentive to be there much.

In a way it does promote stacking, because if you don’t want to do EoTM, and you want to focus on Mist War, then you would want to be on a server that actually does that.

EoTM surely does kill regular WvW, but I did notice that some people are still out in the old WvW BLs fighting, and our EB had a queue most the night.

The question will be, what servers would you stack on? We don’t know how EoTM affected the top 3, so maybe there are other servers that actually are better for WvW now.

Visiroth.5914:

The PPT per structure is the same, but you can see from the screenshot that points aren’t being awarded for any keep on the map, and only from 1 out of 4 towers. It’s possible that this is just a display error and the correct amount of PPT is added at the tick, I haven’t tried to verify that.

Sadly this is true. It would’ve been cool if they altered the ppt to help make the matches more competitive.

To me, EoTM is a cool map. But, there is no real incentive to win a match, and it is just a k-train for the most part. Is fun, but it seems shallow to me due to the lack of meaning.

I prefer regular WvW just because it is designed to be more competitive. You want to win, and help your server. You want to wipe out the guilds of the other server, and hopefully beat that server as well. But, in EoTM, you have 4 hours to k-train, a brief break then 4 more hours of k-training and rinse and repeat. I wish it helped the servers battle more.

That is just my take. I have also noticed how it has hit a lot of servers pretty hard tonight. FA was ticking +30 at one point (I even heard it was as low as +10). HoD was ticking +520. A wierd night indead.

Dynnen.6405:

None of that kitten I mentioned belongs in pvp…ever

But, WvW is a PvP / PvE hybrid.

The coverage for all servers will be messed up for a few days, as everyone tries out EoTM.

Is it bugged, or did they nerf the PPT?

You can’t use Mos to calculate the strength of EoTM. WvW is won by coverage, simple as that. EoTM will not be, and you won’t be able to get full guild groups on the maps. So, each match should be up for grabs.

Reverence.6915:

Hey, some people like playing for score/PPT. Different idea of fun. Seems like OP finds that PPT is his thing?

I’ll never understand why people play purely for PPT. It’s nice to see your server is ticking high, but it’s nicer to farm bags or have intense, closely fought battles.

Well, most people play a competitive game in order to win, and in terms of WvW, PPT is what determines winning and losing. If that is what people like, then there is nothing wrong with that. If PPT is all that is fun, then people will get bored quickly, as PvD isn’t exciting for hours upon hours everyday.

Battles are fun, but you can’t have 8 hours of constant massive battles non-stop in WvW (except, maybe t1). So, if only battles are fun then people will get bored quickly when the battles aren’t there.

If farming bags if you thing, then why the hell would you be in WvW anyways? You can farm more bags in PvE, at a constant rate, and not have to try and find fights in order to get them.

Now, if you combine all 3, PPT, Big Fights, and Bag Farming, then you can achieve the most fun.

How about we don’t speculate, and then actually go and see for ourselves tomorrow?

style.6173:

Defense is already ridiculously easy in this game. A group of 5 defenders who know what they are doing can easily hold off a group of 25 for a long time.

That is true. And I am really getting tired of this topic.

If you don’t want to PvD, then don’t try to capture crap. Just go straight to a waypointed keep, draw them there, and then fight.

Man, you don’t have to PvD if you don’t want to.

I just noticed that this past week, Mag has been Karma training, and going for PPT. It all started reset night.

Last night, they would golem rush a keep, then way point to another BL and golem rush there. They sure were trying to fight. It isn’t the Mag that I remember.

Terravos.4059:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Speculation-Merging-WvW-Servers-soon

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They’ve been talking about how they’re planning to release in China, and that’s why they need the new WvW map for overflow, That’s BS.

They’re going to merge some of the WvW servers together (By that, I mean the actual WvW portion of the game, not the servers)

So for example, Stormbluff Isle and NSP might be on the same team….Before they couldn’t do something like that this because people would be poed they got put in a Queue.

Now they’ll be able to do just throw them in the Overflow Map."

heh

Don’t bring uncomfirmed, fantasy rubbish, to a real topic.

On a separate note, all servers will need to zerg and zerg hard til Tuesday, so they can try to build a comfortable lead, in order to not lose next week.

Jocksy.3415:

Victory.2879:

Yeah..all blue from EU will be grouped together..that’s french, german, english speaking servers all on the same side (not to mention several dozen other languages), world chat will make for interesting reading….

I lol’d at the ‘could you move to another overflow’ elitsist trash mentioned by one: how about your guild moves to a new overflow or waits for a new one to pop, then make sure everyone goes there:P

Because one can maybe get half its guildies on the same overflow before it’s filled, given people will keep joining. Just as it is on regular overflows… once all my group went on a same map at the same time – at tequatl’s beginning – and we were on 3 different overflows, somewhat 30 guildies getting on the map at approximately the same time (2-3 minutes off, maybe) got us on 5 overflows, given how fast they fill…

So yeah, since overflow are filled by all servers of a region, at prime time, it’s not just a matter of all join at the same time and use that “join” function to be on same overflow… And it depends on how many people can get on one overflow. Would be easier on a 150 places overflow than on a 50 places one…

If, for you, “elitist” means “preferring to play with guildies and friends more than with strangers that might not even speak my language”, then, yes, I am an elitist, and I’m proud to be one…

But, you are thinking about the overflow as it relates to single server. You are going to have 24 servers (or 27 if EU) all entering this map at the same time. Getting half of your guild will not happen, unless it is only 2 groups

But, for a large guild, you could have 4+ groups, and end up in 4 different maps.

Kincaidia.3192:

This could be terrific, but hopefully it doesn’t undermine the idea of belonging to a specific community. Server pride needs to have a corollary in this new system, as well as familiarity with teammates. Recognizing and loving / hating commanders, roamers, etc, is part of what makes it feel comfortable and familiar.

It will undermine server pride, and it will also decimate some WvW guilds as well.

Since all the servers will be fighting for space on these maps, it will be hard to get large guilds into the same map.

Also, it will be pug-tastic. So, I am sure people who hate commanding pugs now, will hate it even more when EoTM drops.

Also, if you prefer to play in the main WvW maps, probably most of them will not have anywhere near the same population (except maybe reset night)/

CEDWYN.5392:

ITT: People who still think Anet actually cares about what players want.

Not like there is a history of some company consistently ignoring player requests and releasing content in PVP that no one asked for. OOOOOOHHHH… WAIT.

Well, first I need to ask you a question…. What do players want? Seems all we want to do is complain about anything Anet creates.

We wanted WvW or we wouldn’t have bought the game. Now, everyone has a different spin on how WvW should be changed, based on their own experience (and normally most people on these forums just want it changed so they can win easier, at other peoples expense. They call it balance, but only balance for them).

So, in all fairness to Anet, we must admit that the player base cannot come to a consensus on what they want.

mrstealth.6701:

lordkrall.7241:

3: It gets more people into WvW and might end up with increased participation overall.

People that don’t want to do wvw/pvp aren’t going to get into it just because they sprinkle in a little pve content. No matter how much pve you cram into it, there are still people there want want to, and will, kill them. If they don’t want to fight other players, they aren’t going to enter wvw unless you put a pile of free precursors in the middle of the map.

I do hope that this means the end of living story on the other 4 wvw maps, because that does remove the negative side to pve/LS content in wvw. But it is still pointless and will bring very few new players into wvw, and just works to keep wvw players away from the new map because they don’t want to deal with LS content. If anything, there will simply be less people bothering to do the living story content because of where it is.

And I just had a friend tell me this as I was typing it. She won’t be doing any of the next living story content that takes place in wvw, because she has no interest in wvw. So there is one player will still be avoiding wvw, and is now avoiding LS content as well.

Hmm, seems some people really have short memories. Don’t you remember the flood of PvE people into WvW in the beginning of the season? PvE people will go anywhere to get their achievements.

Lord Kuru.3685:

Anet is on a two week Living Story schedule. Here is the easiest way to create content:

• Take what’s already being developed (EoTM).
• Dump some Scarlet into it.
• Make up some Achievements.
• Call it a Living Story chapter.

This is not about introducing PvE players to WvW. It’s about “creating” content in the quickest, easiest way possible. Whether this is good or bad for WvW probably didn’t even enter Anet’s minds.

Since they have repeatedly said that it takes 4 months to make each living story update, and EoTM was announced within the past 4 months, it would be safe to assume that EoTM was designed to be a living story update the whole time.

From an SBI standpoint, you are right on, we really do need to leave EB more.

On a different note, what happened to Mag? Since when did they start playing for PPT?

styx.7294:

Andrew Clear.1750:

Aeonblade.8709:

I’m starting to think ANet actually believes if they can force feed us terrible LS content that somehow we’ll develop some type of Stockholm syndrome.

Also, the reason WvW players don’t spend as much the Gem store is….Because they do not put anything in there for WvW players! Shocker!

Not all the LS has been crappy. Plus, who said that next weeks update will be crappy? Who even says that EoTM is even going to be heavily laced with LS elements.

I remember a post before Christmas, where they said they were only going to do an update once a month for the final portion of this living story arc, so can we assume that this patch will just be a minor one?

People will love EoTM on the 7th, as the maps are queued for reset.

Edge of the Mist likely will do more to kill WvW than Living Story will. Most WvW maps aren’t queued.

I know. I had reservations about this map when they announced it, for that same reason. Why fight in the main maps, when you have an alternate, that has no queues, and matches will be shorter.

I think regular WvW will be dead, except for large guilds that want to get all their members on the same map. But, even then, who are they going to be fighting? Will the main WvW maps, just turn into GvG maps?

Natronix.9827:

They better put acct bound wxp along with this.

Im glad they added LS there, killing PvErs is gonna be delicious

Yeah, I can’t wait for the account bound wxp to finally come around. I play WvW with multiple characters, and having all those levels on each character would be nice.

Solstice.1097:

We do not need to nerf “coverage”

We need to BUFF player impact.

I’ve already said it about 25x but I’ll say it 10,000 and it will be no less true.

MOAR POINTS FOR KILLS!!!

So, what will more points for kills accomplish? If server A has better offtime coverage, then server A will have more kills than server B and server C.

Also, the people who hate zergs will not agree with this as well.

Agony.3542:

What concerns me most is that there will be Aethersh…blade on the map. Why can’t we simply have a wvw without pointless AI mobs running around?

Hell no, because when there is no one to fight, we have to either sit around and do nothing, or PvD (and kill NPCs)

Burpengary.5160:

I am confused but being Irish you have to expect that. Week after week we read this and variations of this thread. I admire the effort the OP and others have put into this but it is all just plain stupid.

I am in Australia and play on Yaks bend and proud to do so. We fight with what we can with the numbers we have. Often a lot fewer than you would imagine. I play mostly NA prime plus Oceanic and some of SEA. My ping is terrible but hey that’s one of the small downsides to living here. I could play on EU and be a night capper with no difference in ping. I do not play SPVP or PVE.

Just because a servers location is EU or Stateside does not make them exclusive to those zones. Whether you are in The States or Europe prime time covers a lot of time zones. When does prime time start and what time does it finish.

The coverage wars has always been an issue you just need to look at the recruitment threads for that. Mass movement mainly upwards has affected the game more than anything. I have not seen a queue since season 1 finished. Look at our old adversaries Emery Bay this week after loosing players to SoS. People have to realize that we have done this ourselves and now we complain. The truth is T1 and T2 will eventually be where wvw is at and anywhere else a ghost town unless some love is given to WVW

10-15 yaks would fight the mass hoard of kaineng night after night during SEA prime. The last stand at garri and we often defeated them. Not as far as ppt but we wiped them over and over. Sad to see them where they are now. I had more fun then than the karma train of today with little defence or holding anything.

This is a 24 hour game and I have to accept that and continue to fight with what we have. If you lack numbers try and get them. If you cant get them fight hard and know you did you best. Winning isn’t everything and we do this for the comradeship and most of all for FUN.

Enough I need some bags and I have plenty of SBI to get them from good luck everyone

This post is spot on.

Plus there are 24 time zones in the world. Even trying to just use the NA ones for NA still leaves huge gaps in coverage (remember, Alaska, and Hawaii have their own time zones as well). Do we leave out the time zones of our soldiers stationed over sea? Those time zones are the same as our much maligned SEA / OCX players. Also, what about all our citizens that are overseas as teachers? What about South America? Brazil even has different time zones (or zone) than America.

I respect all the players in each time zone, and if we get beat cause one time zone has more coverage than ours, so be it.

styx.7294:

Aeonblade.8709:

I’m starting to think ANet actually believes if they can force feed us terrible LS content that somehow we’ll develop some type of Stockholm syndrome.

Force fed? What kind of rhetoric is that? You have to go out of your way to even kill these mobs. They’re located in very low traffic areas (dunno about Eternal Battleground but in the borderlands… like how often do you find yourself on the cliff west of Hills?).

I mean, the alternative would have been for those areas to be empty. Instead they’re not empty but we can treat them like empty and it doesn’t change a thing. I’m not saying this is the best idea of it’s fixing anything but Living Story in WvW isn’t going to kill it. Living Story in WvW isn’t what’s wrong with WvW (it’s just a meh). We gotta fight the fights that matter.

totally agree.

Aeonblade.8709:

I’m starting to think ANet actually believes if they can force feed us terrible LS content that somehow we’ll develop some type of Stockholm syndrome.

Also, the reason WvW players don’t spend as much the Gem store is….Because they do not put anything in there for WvW players! Shocker!

Not all the LS has been crappy. Plus, who said that next weeks update will be crappy? Who even says that EoTM is even going to be heavily laced with LS elements.

I remember a post before Christmas, where they said they were only going to do an update once a month for the final portion of this living story arc, so can we assume that this patch will just be a minor one?

People will love EoTM on the 7th, as the maps are queued for reset.

Man, you people complaining need to go see a shrink and get some treatment on your “I am never satisfied with anything” mental disorder.

EoTM isn’t even the main WvW maps, it was always seperate. Also, just using the living story, to add background to why the EoTM exists isn’t really a big issues.

WHY DO PEOPLE HAVE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERYTHING WITHIN THIS GAME.

I swear, most of the posters on this forum is trying to kill WvW and GW2.

Hmmm…weren’t we complaining about stale match ups before random matchups? Then, before the season we complained about random match ups, because they were leading to lopsided matchups. Now, after they adjusted it to minimize the lopsided matchups, we are complaining about stale matchups again.

Make up your kitten mind.

OMG, just shut the kitten up about coverage already.

So, if your Primetime crew can queue 2 maps, and the opposing server can only queue 1 map, does that mean your coverage should be nerfed as well? Should it not count?

Geez, if your server doesn’t have 24/7 coverage, then welcome to the majority of servers. We all have strengths and weaknesses. That is just how life is, as well as the game.

Man, I am tired of this coverage talk.

the reality is 24/7 Coverage is 100% fair. Just because some servers have better populations than others at certain times, doesn’t make the 24/7 coverage unfair.

This coverage talk is annoying.

GrandmaFunk.3052:

is one person in a 50 vs 50 putting in more personal effort than one person in a 3 vs 3?

Amen to that.

King Amadaeus.8619:

Mogar.9216:

comes down to fairness. If a keep took 50 people 2 hrs to take it should worth more than the same keep taken by 3 person. Yes I have taken keeps with 1 golem and 3 players a few times in the morning. I really don’t think my 10 mins of pvd with 2 friends is the same kitten people at 8pm est working 2 hrs to take the same keep.

You SEA player keep whining about how your effort should count as much as prime time players. The fact is you fail to see that right now your effort is worth WAY MORE than NA players. It is the NA prime time players who are getting shafted because their hard work counts for little in wining a match up.

That pretty much sums it all up in a nice neat package.

It is not about locking players out of WvW for playing off-peak, but it should be valued according to the difficulty of the task. PVDoor with handful of people against no one, should not be rewarded as much as a 20v20 take on the same objective that is distinctly more difficult. NO MATTER WHAT TIME OF THE DAY.

Also what is quoted above is correct: people are too focused on their off-peak capping being devalued, the problem exists now where there is A TON MORE value in being an off-peak player on a server than there is being a primetime player. This gets even more lopsided the further you go down in server ranks, to the point where if you are even slightly competitive during the NA prime (for example) having good overnight/early morning coverage can essentially win a matchup.

Also, no one has talked about what “Peek capping” is. If an EST time player logs off at 12am, it is 9pm PST. If that PST logs off at 12am, which is getting close to SEA time. So, night capping seems to be very relative, based on your timezone of choice. When it is 6pm EST time, it is 3pm PST…etc…etc.

1 AM PST is 6pm in Korea, so yes, the PST players bleed right into the SEA time slot. I guess PST players should not be able to play past 9pm, because it is unfair to the work of the EST players.

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, this is a bunch of garbage. Shut up and play the kitten game, and if you lose you lose. Deal with it. I know I do.

Mogar.9216:

comes down to fairness. If a keep took 50 people 2 hrs to take it should worth more than the same keep taken by 3 person. Yes I have taken keeps with 1 golem and 3 players a few times in the morning. I really don’t think my 10 mins of pvd with 2 friends is the same kitten people at 8pm est working 2 hrs to take the same keep.

You SEA player keep whining about how your effort should count as much as prime time players. The fact is you fail to see that right now your effort is worth WAY MORE than NA players. It is the NA prime time players who are getting shafted because their hard work counts for little in wining a match up.

Well, I don’t experience what you do. It sure does take us more than 2 people and a golem to take a keep, even during way, way off peak hours. (On SBI).

Even preseason, when it was SoS vs SoR vs SBI, it took more than 2 people and a golem to take something, at anytime of the day.

And, whether or not it takes longer to take a keep is irrelevant. It is about defending the keep, that is where the points are. And, it might have taken you 2 hours to take that keep, and then you lose it in 30 minutes because there were no spotters and a lack of defense, so does that really mean that the points should’t count for the crew that just took it easily, while you were off taking something else?

People hate rangers because the game isn’t about fun to them, it’s about min/maxing. All the talk about how they don’t bring anything to a zerg is rubbish. They bring fun for the player who is playing it, and that is all that is needed. When you have 20 to 80 people running in a blob, why would you care about min / maxing your ranger.

I bring my ranger to zergs, and enjoy playing it. I don’t die much, and I help kill things. Seems like it works.

VOLTCIEAGE.3029:

Yh great idea change your life for stupid online game . To be honest night capping is one of the biggest bulls**ts in this game . I know it is really awesome when your server got night cappers and you are practically win every week doing nothing but it really sucks when you lose match-ups only because of night cappers .

Nothing sucks more than losing your matchup due to Primetime cappers. Same can be said.

Funny how people think that the night cappers aren’t playing this game the same way. Funny how they think that night cappers don’t enjoy losing because the other server has more primetime players. It goes both ways. You guys need to get over yourselves (and btw, I am a student, and I play whenever I can, and that is normally only at reset these days, but if I get a chance to play in primetime I do, and if I play during the night I do, and if it is the morning I will, etc, etc.) I expect my time to always count, and so does everyone else.

caljay.8720:

Sin.4130:

caljay.8720:

Sin.4130:

Some ppl don’t understand what is all about. 90% ppl are sleeping at night so when most of host server forces are in beds, other time zones few ppl may have their day prime time and can flip scoreboard upside-down. NA players have their own servers with low ping also.

Winning in fair fight is the most important thing in pvp like games, so it MUST be fixed.

Same can be said, but in reverse for DB. Our SEA force is our largest, and when they sleep (EU) all of our stuff goes, so our EU and NA coverage deserve special protection and attention. Sound good?

All players should have as equal conditions as possible.

That is something I agree with completely. It has to be fair and affect everyone, not just ‘nightcappers’ because they work or live on the other side of the world. It has to be in place/able to work any time of day, not just ‘nighttime’

If you think night cappers are really the only reason servers win, then you need to visit Sea of Sorrows for a few weeks. They have a great night crew, but their EU coverage and NA coverage isn’t as strong, so they lose to people who do have stronger coverage in those spots.

Same can be said for Dragonbrand, who has some insane night coverage. But, when faced with people who have good NA coverage, and decent night coverage, they lose.

All zones of coverage are factored into these scores. It all depends on the match ups.

SBI (my server) has good night coverage, poor EU coverage, and good NA coverage. We lost our season 1 week 1 match up to FA because they had better EU coverage, and that is fair. It balances out in the long run. SoS has better night coverage, we had better day/NA, and we almost won last week, we did win one of the match ups with them.

TLDR; Total coverage counts, not just one time zone. One time zone cannot win a match. Their are 24 hours in a day, and trying to win a match with only 8 hours of coverage is foolish. Don’t even try to say it isn’t fair, because tossing 16 hours of coverage out the window because you don’t play in it, now that is unfair.

Sin.4130:

Some ppl don’t understand what is all about. 90% ppl are sleeping at night so when most of host server forces are in beds, other time zones few ppl may have their day prime time and can flip scoreboard upside-down. NA players have their own servers with low ping also.

Winning in fair fight is the most important thing in pvp like games, so it MUST be fixed.

I wanna see your prove that 90% of the people are sleeping at night. PROVE IT.

And it is a fair fight. Some servers have a lot of people who play late NA hours, SEA/Oceanic hours, as well as EU hours (on NA servers and NA hours on EU servers). That IS THEIR RIGHT SINCE THEY PAID REAL MONEY FOR THIS GAME.

Sore kitten losers. When my server was 12 and facing SoS, and getting killed by their SEA/Oceanic coverage, I didn’t whine. I just went out and had fun, and tried to kill as many of them, and tried to get the ppt up during primetime just for kicks. It’s all about fun while you are playing, quit worrying about what happens when you aren’t.

People (OP especially) need to realize that everyone who bought this game has the right to experience it the same way. YOU can’t punish someone who plays when YOU are not able to, just because YOU are losing.

EU people who want to play on NA servers have that right and vice versa. People who purchased this game in countries that don’t have servers, have the right to play on any server when they are able to.

And, if the OP is American, how dare you tell our troops who are overseas that their contributions to WvW should not matter, or that they can’t transfer servers just because YOU can’t play during those hours and they are gaining ppt for their server.

How about the people in EU and NA who have evening jobs or are students and they can only play during the night or the afternoon? Should they be punished as well?

How about we just get rid of Afternoon and Primetime capping, since others are left out?

Yes, the game is 24/7, and everyone has a different schedule, and people need to respect that. THIS IS A GAME AND EVERYONE DESERVES TO BE ABLE TO EXPERIENCE IT THE SAME WAY. DON’T TRY TO HANDICAP THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHERS BECAUSE YOU ARE A SORE LOSER.

I don’t think it is dying. After Season 1 it seemed to look healthy, as people started to get more balanced match ups. But, because we complained about the random match ups, we have gotten this stale matchups. MAG/SBI/YB or SOS/SBI/YB every week since season 1 has ended. It does burn people out.

Plus, people had finals for college, winter break, holiday stuff to do, and then school starting back up. For people not in school, they had holiday stuff to do, and maybe even some nice vacation time.

With all that, it is no wonder why wvw seems like it has died. But, the reality is that a lot of people just had to take a break (myself included, because school got really hectic). I still followed SBI on MOS every day, to see how we are doing, and it was painful to not log in and help (and even more painful to watch my server fight for the lead last week, and get it over SoS on wednesday, just to do it’s normal friday tanking fest).

S1 was actually pretty good, scoring wise. Coverage did determine the match ups, but it is interesting to see how the standings are gonna be at the end of the season.

SBI was picked to finish 1st, but they will finish 3rd. TC will finish 3rd, while SoR will be 4th.

All the QQ over JQs schedule, and they will finish 2nd.

AR was picked to finish last, and they will be a far cry away from last.

So yes, the season was entertaining, and 3 servers did win easily (well except BGs week 1 win). I thought it was a good season.

Aeros.2046:

It’s pretty clear from what we’ve seen over the past few weeks that Gold League should have had the 3 tiers, and Silver the two tiers. Yaks, SBI and FA pretty much facerolled everyone else by about 100-200k points in every match up where they were not fighting each other. Something to probably keep in mind if ever this league misfortune is to be foisted on us again. As much as I like a challenge, I don’t think any of us wants to spend another 2 months helping one or two servers level their alts.

The Irony is that SBI rolled YB by almost 200k the first time we faced them, and then lost to them the next time.

WTF happened to us, SBI? I know I haven’t been able to play all week cause of school, but man, +35 in the morning today. That is sad

Server: SBI
League: Silver
Season 2: Hell Yeah

The standings speak for themselves. The last week of the season, there are a lot of positions up for grabs. Gonna be interesting to see how the final week ends.

I think the season was fun. Had some pretty garbage match ups at times, but we had those before seasons, so that doesn’t really matter. The scoring system was better, and watching some of the close match ups on MOS, like DH first victory of FC, was interesting.

I honestly thought that the seasons were more fun than just random match ups with no incentive tied to them. Sure, there are winners and losers, but it is like that in every competition.

I can’t wait for season 2.

Tsath.4527:

Well tough, go play on your own servers :-)

Moron, they don’t have their own oceanic servers.

Shutting down at night not only hurts oceanic, but it also hurts NA people who work late, and have to play over night.

Also, if we shutdown night, then we might as well shutdown daytime contribution as well, because people have jobs, and school. So, basically, WvW would only be from 5 or 6pm to 10pm. Now, what timezone should that be?

Sounds pathetic. Quit crying cause you lose due to coverage.

Visirale.6097:

7 weeks ago, if I told SBI they’d be complaining about YB and EB double teaming them… oh god the reactions would be glorious. Back when they were knock-knock-knocking on gold league’s door, having shenanigans with SoR, then thinking they’d steamroll silver. Time is a cruel mistress, eh?

The math of it is this: You can force a server into second with double teaming. You don’t get to third without getting outmanned or giving up. We know the populations of the servers involved so… what’s the story SBI?

Think we were just burned out on blowing out everyone since our week one match up with you guys. We did stomp YB by almost 200k points the first time we faced them.

We could’ve placed second, but we seemed to have spent thanksgiving doing things, cause our coverage was non existent.

I think our lackluster performance started before the reset with YB. We pretty much tanked that whole friday, and didn’t seem to care after that. It was a shame that we did that, now we are gonna be third.

And, as far as our server goes….we are handing it to you atm, FA.

Visirale.6097:

lolol SBI, short term memory? We’ve gone over this. You reset hard. We play all week kittence the pve kids get their achievements, we’ll still be out fighting. So let’s see you on Monday night, eh?

JK EPIC FA MELTDOWN, EVERYONE IS TRANSFERRING TO AR! That’s what you wanted to hear, right? K, got you bbycakez.

Except, the last time we faced you, you guys owned reset night, and pretty much all weekend. We got the lead down to 10k monday night, but your unemployed gamers took over in the afternoon on tuesday and we couldn’t catch up.

BTW, we don’t really reset as hard as most the servers we face. YB resets harder than us, and you used to.