Guild Wars 2

So here is the math (someone correct me if I’m wrong):

After patch:
136500 (rank 30) + 15000*9 (30-39) + 20000*41 (39-80) = 1091500 rank points

Before patch:
796500 (rank 49) + 75000 * 4 (rank 49-53) = 1096500 rank points.

Someone before said it was upper 53, but I think it’s actually upper rank 52 to get dragon. Again haven’t done math in awhile.

If you have the mats:

Read the top comment for this thread:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1z5syc/spvp_glory_changes_what_items_should_i_collect/

If not, then I’d just get tomes of knowledge or 18 slot bags.

Rising Dusk.2408:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Due to our mac client running on cider, I went ahead and implemented the flashing tray functionality. So you may see that in a future patch. Once we can play sounds through a muted client, hopefully no one will miss queue pops anymore.

This is awesome, Evan! Please work towards getting this implemented on the Win client as well.

Haha Eve, I think it’s enabled for Win, but doesn’t work for Mac if I read correctly.

lol, I’d probably do a sailor scout or something but yeah sure :P.

I was wondering if there were any plans for giving commanders more visibility and capabilities on their squad, like an extra GUI window.

The type of information that may be good:

- A list of all 8 professions and the number of players of each profession in your squad (could possibly branch into weaponsets too).

- Ability to create subgroups in a squad and possibly subcommanders. Players in a squad would see this information the same GUI window in a different tab when they join a squad, and they can switch from main to subgroup. And the subgroups could have the option to list “missions”.

- Ability to send a message to different subgroups and/or professions. i.e. Choose all mesmers and tell them to get portal ready for a portal bomb on keep. Or choose subgroup and tell them “get your stuff together and watch south boats!”

- Ability to have a strategist which can do most of the setup for commanders (create subgroups w/ missions, send notifications, etc) but aren’t the ones leading the squad.

- Ability to merge, delete subgroups (probably do not add ability to divide because that’d be difficult to manage).

- Ability to give colors to subgroups (so the dots on the map look different). Also when you hover over a dot with a color other than green, it should say which group they are in.

- Maybe a list of names and how many times they’ve joined your squad (top 100 or so) for possible recruiting purposes!

But it’s for pvp.

edit: Doubt anyone from pve cares about pvp.

Kuruptz.4782:

What rank you getting if your r49 or r50

Phoenix most likely.

Who wants to party up tomorrow and finish all the story modes?

Never seen any of this either. And those kinds of hacks would easily be sniped during a tournament, especially as big as the legends tournament.

I’m hoping math doesn’t fail and it’s 53 90%.

I agree this is a good point to be considered a dragon (in terms of time played minus skyhammer farmers), but veteran spvp players who have achieved r70 should get rewards retroactively even if they already got it. Or give 2x-3x the transmute charges past rank 55.

Well there’s the balance patch coming soon, who knows.

Yeah, there’s always one guy who’s actually good then a bunch of hotjoin heroes follow him/her lol. random button pls

Thanks! I was wondering what the requirements were.

Darek.1836:

Mike.4830:

Rickster.8752:

Rezz.8019:

Rickster.8752:

Not trolling but maybe I didn’t think things through clearly. I get your point. But I also think it would be a shame if newbies come to the pvp and just get demoralised by being trashed 500-0 or by practicing and then being told that sorry they didnt get a place because they weren’t “known”.

In short, this tournament SHOULD cater to the casuals and newbies imo. It is what the game needs

I agree with this. And who is to say someone is known or not? I doubt he knows Karmy and his SW guildies, or June guild, or UC, or many, many others who definitely have a decent chance of beating everyone, including “known” teams.

Also, I believe that Anet guys would organise this much, much better. At least they are not teenagers and have way more experience with this. I hope they will get inspired and host the next one, properly.

But I still have hope that this one will work out. Let’s see if it will be what it was advertised to be or it will be some type of yet another boring invitational with same teams as always.

Disagree, it can be organised well by the community especially with Blu who is really good. So I dont think anything needs to change in that respect.

But I had kind of hoped this tournament would bring new players into pvp from pve and wvw. I would love if this was the aim of the tournament. But if they aim is simply to reward those most hardcore players then fine. That is cool too, just a missed opportunity from my point of view.

The best 2/3 players I have ever play with or against are all people who rarely PvP but spend most of their time in WvW or PvE. And I have played with or against everyone of any renown in PvP. The fact is PvE and WvW have a way bigger player base so it is no surprise that the absolute best/most talented guys come from these game modes. The problem is that the barrier to entry for them is huge and they tend to love rewards. If this tournament could bring these people, and others who aren’t as talented, into spvp (finally) then we could really see esports get going.

First of all, I have no idea who you are, and im certain I have never lost to you or your “renown” friends. Secondly the reason Pvers dont play PvP is because they are inclined to continue clicking their skills. As far as WvW, there is little to no skill required in zergs and roamers are still not near the lvl of pvpers. WvWers rely on broken stats and gear, and are quite inferior to PvP. Even guilds like Apex, which was orignally PvP only has transitioned to WvW because they were not top tier pvpers. However in WvW they are very good.. You WvWers and PvErs will soon learn your place in the skill heirachy.
-Backpack

not gonna say I’m disagreeing but I’m disagreeing. just look at caed and toker, tons of wvw thieves can beat them 1v1 8+/10 times.

1v1 thief <> good spvp thief. If they can’t play well with a team they are just a scrub. You do realize most spvp players don’t play builds with the intent of winning 1v1s? They play builds for team comp and then try to win with it in any scenario (teamfight/1v1). So yeah, let’s make a big deal about thieves who dedicate their build for 1v1s winning against thieves who play versatile builds for actually winning the game mode we play under. Maybe when DM comes up, then bring it up.

Back on topic, I don’t see why we can’t push this tournament later and put in qualifiers. It’s not like the rewards are gonna disappear if we wait.

I wish we had enough staff to do qualifiers. That’d solve most of the issues on deciding who gets to participate.

Do pools of X players and then let top 2 participate in each pool. Randomize pools with some arbitrary selection so not many top seeded teams are in the same pool. Instead of having a 3 map rotation, just leave it at 1 map match for pools to make it faster and simpler. Even if you lose 1 match, if you beat 9 other people in your pool then your 9:1 ratio would make you high in the pool and etc.

With qualifiers, everyone has an equal chance. Also doing the split between seeded/high ranked teams makes it so we don’t lose a majority of the well-known competitive teams (due to pool structure of only top 2 getting through) so there’s a lower chance viewers will spectate a one-sided match when the tournament comes—because those high ranked teams are more likely to make it to the finals—Not saying that other teams cannot beat them, but it’s a fair move IMO.

Also another good thing about pools is it shows a team’s consistency since you play against various teams to qualify.

From left to right:

Weapon Skills
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 |
| E | 1 | R | 4 |Q |

Heal
| 6 |
| 5 |

Utility
| 7 | 8 | 9 |
| 2 | 3 | C |

Elite
| 10 |
| X |

Weapon Swap: G
Call Target: CTRL + T
Switch Target: Tab
Interact (Finish/Res): F

all is not vain?…maybe

I’m going have a hard time redressing all 16 characters on patch day. Maybe if they had build templates I wouldn’t have to save builds on other toons (or maybe if I wasn’t lazy too ;_;)

1. Hambow is a lol-start. But why not.

2. And no, pve level does not affect sPvP at all, as you have access to everything as if you were 80 and unlocked all the skills by default in the sPvP realm. If you are talking about WvW however (where PvE level does matter), this is the wrong place to ask.

bump, I can help anyone with learning sPvP if you join. It’ll come in handy with PvP tracks coming out soon.

I don’t mind having the illusion come first because sometimes it’s hard to tell in a team fight. But the big fat red arrow telling others that you are the real one is annoying

Angelica Dream.7103:

@Bombsaway how do I make sure I do not get skins that I already have in PVE? Can you be more specific? Remember I am new to PVP
Thanks

To make sure, you just have to check your character’s clothes/inventory. If you have the skin then you don’t need it in pvp because it’ll be unlocked later.

With that little glory, get 18 slot bags if you want more room. Get tomes of knowledge if you want alts or need to level up your main.

With pvp tracks released on Apr 15, you’ll have access to tome of knowledges pretty frequently as a reward from what it seems, so 18 slot bags might be better.

That’s not a bad nerf. It’s probably the least they could do to balance the OP rune. Also it’s conditions to boons lol, boons to conditions would be a huge O_O.

If they are making this change, they should decrease the rank points gained from tpvp. Unless this is a retroactive bump for tourney players. I don’t mind people who played the awful old system for a year and a half getting dragon but the ones who just skyhammer farmed or started out with the increased rank point change shouldn’t get this deal.

It’d be cool if they made the home screen show all of our characters standing together

sinzer.4018:

kevvieno.6034:

What if I just salveged some items in the game, for example some dungeon gear that took bank space and almost never equipped them. will they bij available when the new patch starts?

I’d suspect that seeing as the items no longer exist they wouldn’t become unlocked.

Yeah, I doubt they keep a record of all the items you deleted and or salvaged awhile back.

Psychol.5783:

So I’ll receive only 1 unindentified dye for duplicate/triplicate/… dye?

I think if I read correctly you would get 4 unidentified dye for 4 duplicates 1 on each extra char.

Transmutation affects an item that exists not your character’s weapon types.

Please remove AIs. Don’t don’t just say “we know it’s an issue” then add more lol; it’s really confusing.

1. Unless there is a glitch, normally breaking down the door on foefire will not keep the door down when the match actually starts. The door should reappear. If it doesn’t, report it as a bug.

2. Screenshot is of Templte of Silent Storm—a bit confusing.

3. AIs suck

Great bunker guard and team player!

If rank should be shown, it should only be team visible so the enemies don’t build a strategy on picking on the newbie. In addition buff the punishment for leavers/afkers because that will happen if you are on a team with people who are jerks and don’t want to help others learn.

+1 great idea :P

Don’t remove ranks, just punish the sky hammer farmers

Sirendor.1394:

SPvP sucks, face it.

• Classes totally unbalanced: mesmers, warriors, a few guards and a thief
• Winning team takes it all: everyone leaves the losing team and winners overpower simply by numbers

It’s one of the worst PvP modes I have ever played in any game.

Classes are imbalanced, but I assume you don’t play that much if you really think mesmers are imbalanced.

Thedenofsin.7340:

Wait till the Phantasm Mesmers show up with their new heal.

the pew pew pew is strong in this one. gonna love iDuelist

Templates, and make the whole pvp equipment system a swap system not a buy and sell

I think it would be neat to allow a customizable npc (set traits/amulets/runes/sigils/weapons). It would be also cool to be able to set a string of skill executions to be repeated to practice against or with (ally npcs and enemy npcs) or some sort of behavior (but behaviors would be harder to implement so I think just allowing players to set the npc’s skill execution would be sufficient. This wouldn’t be for a beginner’s tutorial but would be something useful for pvp immersion post the basics. Even now I horde a lot of time against the very simple npcs in the mists, but I’d love to spend more time in the ‘training room’ with more advanced capabilities to train against computers.

Ryan.9387:

1) Primary it early.
2) Interrupt it (hint: you can predict when it will be used.)
3) Don’t kill it if someone is down.

I’m not in a 5 man team but this is something my random premades accomplish with little effort. Don’t expect the game to hold your hand out of your own laziness. Find a counterplay.

Says a spirit ranger I don’t think the issue is it having no counterplay, it’s just imbalanced.

I’ll help with teaching.

This is a team game and thieves who can output that damage are glass. It’s not that hard to know your matchups. If you have a difficulty doing a 1v1, don’t do it or pick a build/class that can. When a team fight occurs, and you know you are dealing with a glass thief, then always bait/wait for him before striking if you are also glass. You should be able to take him out just as easily as he takes you out but since stealth gives them an advantage, just don’t fight them upfront unless you have the sustain and/or other mechanics to deal with it.

Our characters should shout all the skills we are doing like in rpgs

Good guy persistent resistor staying on the blue. A lot of people tend to gravitate towards names that dominate in the match and after a few games, you’ll have a team of rank30+ against casuals. They need to randomize teams and not let you switch unless it’s auto-balance.

dat engrish /fifa tea nnn

Finally got a knight-looking set

Lordrosicky.5813:

ArcTheFallen.7682:

Jomo kenyatta.7351:

Leadfoot.9071:

Darkdanjal.3401:

This is in my opinion the whole point of sensotix his topic

I respect your opinion, but the whole point of this thread was to suggest that the devs should ignore 90% and only listen to the “top 10%” (in quotes because I personally do not believe there is a deterministic measurement in place to even accurately determine this and therefore is completely subjective). I respect Sensotix’s opinion and appreciate his videos and guides as well – I just disagree with the premise of this topic and felt hooma deserved props for calling it out.

when youve playing more than 11 games in team or solo que then your opinion will have some weight, dont get involved in discussions when you dont have a clue what your talkin about.

You don’t need to play more than 11 games to know that exclusion will lead down a dark path. Sad to see an army of entitled elitists already forming though. gl in your ventures

Not really elitist though is it. Literally this forums is full of people who don’t even pvp in this game. And they tell everyone to l2p or that this/that isn’t overpowered. It is a joke. There is so much misinformation. You do need to actually play pvp to have an insight into it. That is a fact

I would agree with you on that, but being called out by making a non-balance related statement is somewhat annoying. I know LeadFoot and he is a competent player, but by no means did he say anything related to balance.

Jomo kenyatta.7351:

Leadfoot.9071:

Darkdanjal.3401:

This is in my opinion the whole point of sensotix his topic

I respect your opinion, but the whole point of this thread was to suggest that the devs should ignore 90% and only listen to the “top 10%” (in quotes because I personally do not believe there is a deterministic measurement in place to even accurately determine this and therefore is completely subjective). I respect Sensotix’s opinion and appreciate his videos and guides as well – I just disagree with the premise of this topic and felt hooma deserved props for calling it out.

when youve playing more than 11 games in team or solo que then your opinion will have some weight, dont get involved in discussions when you dont have a clue what your talkin about.

You don’t need to play more than 11 games to know that exclusion will lead down a dark path. Sad to see an army of entitled elitists already forming though. gl in your ventures

Chicago Jack.5647:

ArcTheFallen.7682:

I think you are using the wrong metaphors again. How does letting others speak their ideas to someone related to asking someone inexperienced to operate on you?

There is actually a huge body of work in statistics which talks about this very issue and forms a fundamental cornerstone in the field. Essentially, a guy named Frank Ramsey mathematically proved that it’s true people have beliefs, but most people don’t really believe in those beliefs unless they take them truly seriously. You might yell at your monitor when your computer is acting up, but do you really believe that the computer will respond to you? Of course not, so why do you yell at your computer? In fact, most of your beliefs (and mine) are ill-considered, but it’s because you’re not a fool. Your time and energy are limited and it would make more sense to just pick ideas from a few well-chosen areas. Thus we go to a guy who knows a lot about computers, not your grandma who knows very little, to get advice for your new laptop. Fortunately though, most of our beliefs really don’t matter. You can believe in the most outlandish ideas in the PvP game of guild wars 2, but that still doesn’t make you a bad player at PvE. You can still be a great person to talk to.

So you may not believe in what an upper level players have to say (or be wishy-washy about it), but at the very least don’t believe if you press your accelerator in your car, your car will stop – it’s important to at least get that right.

Quite frankly, most people (especially on video games) really don’t take themselves very seriously or treat what they advocate as important. They may think they do, they may say they do, but they really don’t. So in a world like gaming, experience holds a lot of weight to help reveal the true beliefs of a person and how seriously they treat their posts. Thus it is a “safe bet” to assume that most people who truly take the time and energy to deeply think hard about some topic, will end up with a quality conclusion.

Thus this is the reason why you get metaphors about how at the very least please don’t accept plastic surgery from a “doctor” from Mexico, from other players.

What I’ve stated beforehand already aligns with what you are saying, and I understand that reasoning. But it’s still a bad metaphor. I don’t think the suggestions and/or comments from non-LB players are on the low end of the spectrum of being a third world doctor, who isn’t as educated and/or lacks the tools to improve their results. Revisiting that metaphor though, when you commit to a doctor, they are the ones who fix you. I don’t think the main point of this thread was to let LB players dictate what gets changed and whatnot, but open a dedicated channel of communication between these players and Anet—a consultant per say. I’m actually okay with that and it seems like that’s something they’ve already been doing. I am just not okay with neglecting others who aren’t necessarily LB, but not necessarily fresh inot the mists either. Might as well just not have a spvp thread right?

Metaton.2308:

I think there is a reason why you go to see the doctor and not just ask your friend and buy medication from the street. This reason is called Elitism. You are elitist then cos you not trust in your friend or in case of your laptop in your grandmother. I havent said casual players shouldnt be listened.What I am saying is experience means experience.
You would choose an unexperienced doctor to operate you? Aww you are elitist.:)

I think you are using the wrong metaphors again. How does letting others speak their ideas to someone related to asking someone inexperienced to operate on you? The receiving party is Anet, so the person asking for a doctor would be Anet. Now the doctor is also not a good representation because Anet is the one who can fix it.

So let’s say Anet released a product that’s being used by customers. He has customers who’ve thoroughly used all the features of the product and made a great business off of it, but it’s lacking in some things the business wants to expand to. On the other hand, he also has customers who’ve casually used a subset of those features.

Should Anet reject all of the minor users and only listen to the users who’ve somewhat mastered their product? This thread is saying toss all the minor users aside because they don’t know what’s good for them. But in fact, what the experienced users want may not be of any use to the minor users.

This is really a trust issue with you and other people who don’t think Anet can discern what’s good and bad for this game—as if they do not have eyes that can see and ears that cannot hear.

I have my issues with Anet, but it’s because they are slow. Not because they are incompetent.

Metaton.2308:

Hi all,

I just went trough the whole thing and i am deeply sad about Hooma behaviour.We have a game what we play day by day, we would be happy if we could improve it along with the devs and Hooma just started to troll, derailed the whole topic and tried everything to successfully bring this conversation down to a level of childish argument.
Honestly if you would want to hear some suggest about your brand new laptop, who would you ask? Your grandmother? Probably she is an expert in it?I dont think so.You would ask your friend who has EXPERIENCE in it. Is this thing would make your grandmother less honorable person? Of course no! We are not the same. I am into PVE.Ask me about COE and i will happily tell you my experience.I dont have experience in PVP i never done it. This is makes me a less valuable player? No.
But seriously i wont go to the butcher to ask him about hiw to make bread.

This is about experience.If players dont know anything about pvp, they shouldnt design it.You will gain experience.One they maybe you will be a PVP champion.There is no 2 group.Just one. Players. We have a game. Some experienced player tried to suggest something and Hooma in the name of equality tried to sabotage this.This is what i can see.

Not everyone grow up on forums and can select the words carefully. Some of us just say what thinks at the first place. We should bann them for this?

Think , people.

There’s a few reasons why Hooma actually makes a good point. There’s a big issue with elitism here. Regardless if it’s for the better or the worse, who is to say that a guy playing in high end play has better feedback than a guy who’s just played casually?

You don’t know. It’s just a much better chance it seems if you rely on the guy who’s played more. I do not want to play with chance and I don’t want to allow only a select number of people at the top to be able to represent the whole pvp base. You are basically creating a system where you totally exclude the a huge majority of the players. You could also say that there’s a bigger chance to have tunnel vision at the top because you see the same team comps over and over again. Is it effective or is it just a lack of creativity?

I guess it’s ok if you’ll be willing to toss your pvp future in the hands of those you idolize as great players, but maybe think for yourself and make sense about what’s actually imbalanced and balanced then trust that Anet is going to at least address it.

Edit: And a lot of the metaphors you use relates to asking someone who has no relation to what you asked. Grandma doesn’t use laptop, Butcher does not make bread—but all players who post here I would think plays spvp. So it’s better to make a comparison to local bread store to a bread franchise. And let’s face it, we’ve had some pretty good bread, even better than franchise bread at these local stores.