Lose.
And yes, everyone just waits until they cannot lose points, then changes to professions they suck at. It really hurts the game.
Ele nerfs always smash every other build as well.
So are we embracing the new SHATTERSTONE meta?
Or people could stop buying outfits and give ANet some financial motivation to put those same artists to work making armor skins that let you ((gasp)) pick what boots/shoes to wear with your dress.
Or ANet could use the money they get from selling outfits to fund the making of free ingame armor.
There’s nothing wrong with the gemstore selling fluff and cosmetics. If players have a problem with lack of ingame armor, let them talk about that. The money from Gemstore purchases could be used towards ingame rewards, which means they should be selling outfits and of course making armor for ingame.
That sentiment is fine, but they are NOT making in-game armour.
Shatter Mesmer uses the Chronomancer tree. The other builds are nowhere close to the elites, except maybe the necro.
Play in season two with only one profession, then. You can then do the other professions in season three to get to part 4.
That is incredibly bad advice.
Eles will never be above 75% health in this new meta.
Because eles still don’t have rediculous mobility/disengage potential without the current ride the lightning. They need MORE.
All eles ever want: more. More boons, more condi’s, more cleanses, more heals, more regeneration, more damage sources, more damage mitigation, more might stacks, more kanya west.
XD
The current meta Tempest is probably the least mobile thing in PvP.
All those fellow elementalist going into insults to another fellow elementalist who is actually playing marauder amulet.
Will you quit bragging about your marauder build…you’re so biased about it you came into this thread to bring down another fellow ele’s request for reasonable scepter buffs, and when people turn on you for being disingenuous you act the victim…
I don’t see you trying. Is it better to be over-buffed?
Auto-Attacks on every ranged weapon of the elementalists are mediocre, yet, focus is hands-down the best off-hand. There is a limit of buffs directed at scepters I can take. Phoenix is one ability I am absolutely jealous of: unblockable, clears a condi, grants vigor and can deals a massive amount of damage while also being a quick cast.I saw some people wanting more thoughness on Earth 2 while it already grants 250. I think that guy wanted it to be 400 or something of the sort.
As for now, we all know that Paladin Amulet S/F will surely be a thing because Fresh Air will grant 50% of the ferocity gained from Marauder amulet… On top of the 560 thoughness from the amulet, you’ll be able to add 250 to it, and another 180 (with signet of earth) Hinterhalt plays S/F marauder tempest already and survives decently.
To the elementalists, I say… Take it slow; we all know what happens to overbuffed elementalists.
What are you talking about? Fireball does great damage, and why are you ‘jealous’ of an ele skill? I thought you said you played an ele…
Seriously though…buff the auto-attacks. This is also your chance to give eles an actual condition build.
It is very excessive. The two arguing that it is fine NEVER oppose anything Anet does.
Can we at least wait until the patch actually drops before claiming a class as dead.
If we wait until the patch drops to alert stupidity, then we will have to complain for at least another 3 months to get a fix (probably more silly scepter “buffs”).
SHATTERSTONE!
I think this is a foolish post. I don’t say that to offend anyone..However, just because ele is a higher skill cap class doesn’t mean they’re “dead.” I’ve run into very few elementalists that have left an impression on me, however, those few were extremely good. I’d like to consider myself a very good mesmer, especially when it comes to 1v1s, and I got killed by an ele 1v1 earlier today. Very good class, just difficult to play.
10/10.
Scepter complaining when they got a whooping 250 ferocity on swapping to air attunement. Seriously guys?
You do realise that with the removal of Celestial amulet, we lost a whooping equal to more amount of other stats that we need?
We need to many different stats, due to hybrid nature of ele and low base defence.
Which we cant all get with the removal of Celestial amulet.
Unless we get more in base ele/traits.Overall we currently lose a lot more than this ’’whooping’’ 250 ferocity gain.
Scepter complaining when they got a whooping 250 ferocity on swapping to air attunement. Seriously guys?
You’re being ignorance at best
Indeed.
I think you are forgetting SHATTERSTONE.
Without Celestial and the DS immunity, eles will just get nuked down. Giving them more base HP would help greatly with countering this.
Drama, drama. We don’t know all the changes yet.
People were saying nobody would play Tempests, too.Even if ANet’s baby drops out for a few weeks or months, it’s only for good. With no Celestial, they can start balancing for something other than bunker.
Anet’s ‘previews’ are 99% of the changes. Eles are dead.
He cant know that at all. Pure speculation and very narrow minded imo. Anet have tested and have metrics. I trust them
SARCASM DETECTED.
Normalising health would also make balancing PvE easier. There are many mechanics which down an ele or thief, which a warrior just eats.
At the very least you could buff eles to the 15k category.
lol. Eles and druids already have too much self sustain. You want to increase ele even more??
Seriously, eles have been way too OP for too long. Time for those players to play as a more balanced class.
Removing eles from PvP is not fine.
Well they haven’t removed Wanderer’s or Rabid so as a condi necro I could care less about the QQ in this thread.
It is ‘I could NOT care less’. If you could care less, it means you care. And you really need to think about the overall balance of the game.
Bring a friend and stunlock the necro… it isnt so hard right?
Spontaneous Destruction spam did the same thing no? along with 2 other traits on low cooldwon. Rev also revomes boons so why not try having your boons removed too.
How do you stunlock 3-4 Necros? Because that will be the new meta.
Fresh Air is only used for dagger right now. It is a large PvE buff.
At the very least you could buff eles to the 15k category.
Wow…so many players who have no clue how the Elementalist works, and just list random skills like it means something.
Anet need to buff Elementalist’s health, now that they have killed their PvP viability. Oh and BUFF SCEPTRE AUTOATTACKS!
…all Hundred Blades attacks hit? Seriously? Learn to dodge…
You missed the point. And it is actually quite easy to hit with Hundred Blades if you run with guys who can CC.
Reapers are going to ruin everything, not just revs.
Anyone else concerned about Reapers (specially with future buffs) running Mercenary’s Amulet? I can’t be the only one.
Most people see the Reaper dominating with that. Even Anet must see it…
I don’t care that we’re nerfing Diamond skin (by a lot, mind you), I don’t care that the new effects are completely not thematic with the earth trait line, but why the hell does diamond skin still need to be tied to a health threshold?
There were so many good ideas about how DS could be reworked before the balance preview annoucement like the following:
Gain resistance on attunement swap,
Gain longer duration resistance on swapping to earth,
Pulse resistance when (activating/channeling certain skills)Of course, none of those were listened to, instead we get told that DS will be about removing conditions. But this? This new diamond skin didn’t make the trait any less situational, any less terribly designed, in fact it might even be worse.
Why do we have a trait that literally becomes nonexistent as soon as our health is dropped below a certain health threshold? This new DS pushes users towards full sustain bunkers even more than the old one.
Why can’t we just have a proper, active trait (with reasonable effects) that is in play all the time?
It’s a good thing that there are 17 other grandmaster traits… Seriously though, Diamond Skin isn’t a mandatory thing, and classes like necro that apply condi’s at the rate you cleanse them will have to hit you as hard as they can just to drop you to 75%. Of course, I think ele warrants buffs elsewhere with the removal of celestial.
It is completely mandatory, and Necros and Revs will not have to take you below 75%. They will just nuke you.
Eles will never be above 75% health.
Seeing as you are killing off the ele in pvp, perhaps now would be a good time to normalise the health pools. This would make it easier to not only balance PvP, but PvE as well.
No this is not the full update, they even said that multiple times. I think they even said that they would give another preview next Friday and that they would lower cds, which hasn’t been shown this time
Anet’s previews have always been 99% of the changes.
Use this chance to buff Elementalist health. I do not see how eles are going to survive with all these nerfs.
Scepter complaining when they got a whooping 250 ferocity on swapping to air attunement. Seriously guys?
That is an awesome dagger buff.
Sceptre is not used with ANY BUILD. Sceptre sucks. PERIOD. There is no viable Sceptre option in PvP, PvE or WvW. Its useless auto-attacks stop it from doing anything.
In case that was no clear enough: THERE IS NOTHING TO NERF.
- Removed Celestial
- Removed Sigil of Energy
- Removed Elementalist?
Attuning to air is not a Sceptre ability, and Focus is an entirely different weapon.
Seriously, stop trolling. This is a proper thread about the need to buff Sceptre auto-attacks, and your trolling is derailing it.
This is not release. People know the game, now.
And the problem with Tempest was the WARHORN SUCKED. It still does btw. They buffed the overloads enough to make them useful (except maybe water), and they added the main PvP Tempest trait in after the beta without any feedback.
They want a shatterstone meta.
That would be the greatest meta ever.
Lies. Last time it was dragon tooth. There’s nothing actually wrong with scepter, when you consider all the instant cast damage abilities it has. It must first be “nerfed” before it can be sufficiently buffed.
Yeah, the almighty TWO instant cast abilities, and one of them doing no damage! SUCH OVERPOWERNESS!
Stop trolling.
There is a pretty good chance that Necro’s will be the next meta and will be regarded as OP.
This. Nothing will stop their conditions now.
Half the forum has been clamoring to limit your playstyle by having cele removed. I think it’s fair you at least aim your fury at them.
This whole effort is to remove some of the tankyness from the current meta but it seems like a very knee jerk reaction. Soon enough with the tanky removed we will be back to the thief and mesmer insta burst meta(this tanky meta developed to counter the burst meta). I’m sure we all remember how fun that was /s
Removing a whole way of playing is a poor way to balance, adjust the skills that are making a build too strong, this is where strict pvp and pve balance comes in.
Burst meta inc.
It is going to be the condition or power burst meta. Either you blow up the necro/rev fast, or they blow you up with conditions. GOGO ESPORTS!
Too bad there is not a settler amulet split.
1050 thoughness 1050 condition 560 precision 560 healing
Healing Power and Toughness in the same amulet is a big no. no.
Which means eles are dead.
No Cele amulet + this change = dead ele. Unless Anet have more changes (which I doubt).
I dont think you know what a preview is…..
An Anet preview has always been 99% of the changes.
That’s a long list of scepter improvements.
Like… ahh whatever… it feels so useless to give feedback at this point.
Pretty much. It seems someone at Anet is OBSESSED with Shatterstone, and thinks it is the only sceptre skill.
You mean no more ele.
Fire/arcane/tempest Balthazar runes D/F. Pure fire. Still sucks, and Anet refuse to buff the useless sceptre.
Completely agree. The horrible base stats of the ele meant healing/toughness/vitality were all needed.
Seriously? Every single time you mention fixing the useless ele sceptre, you just end up changing Shatterstone. All of the auto-attacks SUCK, having huge cast-times, massive aftercasts and/or pathetic damage. Yet SHATTERSTONE is the only thing changed?
And please no one say ‘oh it is only a preview’, because we all know ‘previews’ are 99% of the changes.