Guild Wars 2

Palador.2170:

So, where in Rata Sum is this point of contention?

I have some spare balm, might go in there and chuck a few around just to let people kill them. (No, I have no expectations that I’ll get something rare, so they’re of more value to me as a toy.)

I forgot the name. It’s outside the place you go to for the Asura storyline. I want to say the portal is one of the ones in the SE cluster.

Thanatos.2691:

Ayrilana.1396:

lordkrall.7241:

Thanatos.2691:

The pessimistic side of me says this obviously won’t happen because ANet is now a greedy company that only cares about money and not the players

How does this make any sort of sense?

If they only cared about money it would have already been back with the Permanent Coin in the gem-store.

Not adding something when they are not ready/content/finished with it would suggest against greed as well.

Ignorance and entitlement sums it up pretty much. Ignorance in the sense that people do not realize (or accept) that Anet needs to have revenue to fund the _free_content, the servers, and the staff while ignoring everything else we’ve gitten that hasn’t come from the gem store. Entitlement in the sense that they feel that they can dictate Anet on how to run their game and then bashes the company for not giving in to their demands.

It’s sad to see people only posting to bash other players on the forums. These posts are under the assumption that they understand the people they are bashing, and quickly throw in labels like entitled and ignorant to make a point. I had hoped it was apparent with my playful comparison of ANet to Scrooge since we’re close to Christmas, that it would be understood that my post was not meant to be 100% accurate and able to be picked apart. Is ANet going to be visited by the ghosts of XMas past, present, and future in real life? No. Shall we debate whether or not ghosts are real to look at the accuracy of that statement as well? White knight forum trolls never cease to amaze me with their ability to pick apart nonsensical statements in an attempt to look good at someone else’s expense.

Is it ignorant entitlement to hope specific content will return? I’m not demanding it return lol, and I never said my post was anything more than opinionated wishful thinking. With that said, I still hope ANet will bring SAB back for Wintersday maybe even as permanent content.

It wasn’t directed at you specifically. Perhaps I should have added that disclaimer. Sorry about the confusion. The quoted post of yours is just what I see all to often which prompted the generalized statement. It doesn’t apply to everyone as people could potentially have valid complaints. Actually, it only really applies to a small, vocal percentage.

There’s a difference between wanting and being disappointed that certain content isn’t made available compared to demanding and bashing a company when it isn’t made available. There are many things that I want in this game, including SAB, but I’m not going to bash the company and call them greedy and not caring about the players when it gets put on the back burner.

I hope what I’m saying is coming across clearly.

Verificus.4320:

@Ayrilana
Then you don’t understand what I am saying. I’ll lay it out again. It’s about variance in odds. If you flip a coin 10 times there is a much much higher variance of not getting the expected 50/50 odds. If you flip a coin a million times it will most likely be 49.999% or 50.111% or anywhere between that. The same goes for forging precursors. Odds have been calculated based on research many people have done using large sums of gold. Based on current rare GS prices on TP 20k gold = 48 precursors on average. Aka expected odds. Since you only need 36 to break even and those chances are very unlikely it is extremely like to profit on precursor forging when you invest a large sum like 20k gold. The odds don’t change ofcourse and many people can get a precursors using just 4 swords or only 100g or whatever random amount. But on average, the people who spend the most money forging will get the highest return because the variance gets lower as you spend more gold. You can always get screwed over by RNG anyway as they are only odds, not guarantees, even with high sums of gold. It isn’t very likely however. For anyone who attempts this seriously, either as way of making money (like I do) or because you really want the precursor for your legendary weapon you gotta be willing to invest a little. More times than not forging a precursor is cheaper than buying it.

Still though, there’s no difference between doing X amount of attempts over time compared compared to doing X amount of attempts in one sitting. The result will still be the same. That’s what I was arguing.

lordkrall.7241:

Thanatos.2691:

The pessimistic side of me says this obviously won’t happen because ANet is now a greedy company that only cares about money and not the players

How does this make any sort of sense?

If they only cared about money it would have already been back with the Permanent Coin in the gem-store.

Not adding something when they are not ready/content/finished with it would suggest against greed as well.

Ignorance and entitlement sums it up pretty much. Ignorance in the sense that people do not realize (or accept) that Anet needs to have revenue to fund the _free_content, the servers, and the staff while ignoring everything else we’ve gitten that hasn’t come from the gem store. Entitlement in the sense that they feel that they can dictate Anet on how to run their game and then bashes the company for not giving in to their demands.

I don’t see how this new system is anything like the Zaishen missions.

Spending 20-50 gold at a time or 500+ gold at a time doesn’t matter. The drop rate from the forge isn’t cumulative and each forge attempt is independent from the others.

DiogoSilva.7089:

The rewards are backwards, yes. The first midseason episode started with a good and interesting body part acquisition, and then later patches downgraded it to mindless RNG. :P It’s like what the community always wished for, but done backwards.

It’s not RNG when you wait until the next episode as you get part-specific extractors. All armor boxes can be bought with crests as well.

Seera.5916:

Ayrilana.1396:

Seera.5916:

Ayrilana.1396:

Seera.5916:

Ayrilana.1396:

Or how about go somewhere else where they won’t die so quickly?

Ambients tend to die quickly regardless of where you are.

I went to the ones by SB and they didn’t die as quickly. The point is that people do not need to do only Rata Sum and then demand changes because it gets overcrowded or there are trolls. Ambients are located throughout Tyria so find another location to farm them. They’re not going to create a special area just for the farmers.

They’ve always died in one hit for me when I’ve been near SB.

So if they die so quickl,y regardless as to where you are, then there’s absolutely no reason the farmers cannot go elsewhere if they have issues in Rata Sum.

Rata Sum has the highest concentration in a small area than anywhere else. If they were just as spread out as everywhere else, the issue would likely be different.

Not really the only place. It’s just the first place someone found it, they posted about it, and now it’s the only place people go to.

Seera.5916:

Ayrilana.1396:

Seera.5916:

Ayrilana.1396:

Or how about go somewhere else where they won’t die so quickly?

Ambients tend to die quickly regardless of where you are.

I went to the ones by SB and they didn’t die as quickly. The point is that people do not need to do only Rata Sum and then demand changes because it gets overcrowded or there are trolls. Ambients are located throughout Tyria so find another location to farm them. They’re not going to create a special area just for the farmers.

They’ve always died in one hit for me when I’ve been near SB.

So if they die so quickl,y regardless as to where you are, then there’s absolutely no reason the farmers cannot go elsewhere if they have issues in Rata Sum.

Imagine the reaction when the other sides see that.

Seera.5916:

Ayrilana.1396:

Or how about go somewhere else where they won’t die so quickly?

Ambients tend to die quickly regardless of where you are.

I went to the ones by SB and they didn’t die as quickly. The point is that people do not need to do only Rata Sum and then demand changes because it gets overcrowded or there are trolls. Ambients are located throughout Tyria so find another location to farm them. They’re not going to create a special area just for the farmers.

Or how about go somewhere else where they won’t die so quickly?

Mentecki Pass, Bloodtide Coast

Post the server IP so there’s a record of it.

Wynne.3908:

John Smith.4610:

Remember that changes in the overall supply of currency doesn’t mean inflation.

Here’s a snippet from an awesome game economist team:
“Changes in the money supply dwarf the changes to prices. While the money supply grew more than thirteenfold, the CPI fell by almost a quarter. It‘s clear that these series aren‘t strongly correlated. The existence of money alone doesn‘t contribute much to inflation. Money that isn‘t being spent won‘t affect prices. This brings us to the concept of the velocity of money, i.e. frequency with which a given quantity of money changes hands in transactions. It can be stated as the total value of all transactions in a period, divided by the money supply. In our case, we shall be using monthly measurements, i.e. market transactions per month divided the average money supply that month. Only transactions on the general market are included.”

edit: In case it’s not clear, this is not from me or speaking of our game.

It doesn’t matter to the average player WHY the things they want are so expensive. The point is the ‘good stuff’ in the game is FAR out of reach of the average player. Anything constructive to say to the OP at all? Are you concerned at the price of stuff?

What exactly is this average player which you speak of?

OmniPotentes.4817:

They don’t stack, so unless you have lots of spare inventory space and don’t mind tying It up for a full month, I’d recommend against this.

Please verify first next time.

Arantheal.7396:

Can you link to the thread with the red post about templates?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Suggestion-Favorite-builds-button/first#post4093312

kuittaa.7360:

pdavis.8031:

Wanze.8410:

The secret to my success:

I just outrun inflation.
On my mount.

Are you open world dueling at the same time?

I bet he is – with [HATS] guild cape flapping behind.

And in Cantha no less.

Astralporing.1957:

Ayrilana.1396:

Pipra.7580:

BlakThornArrow.2389:

hopefully its more content the next patch cause 30 minutes/ 1 hour of content aint cutting it.

What would ‘cut it’? How much free content should we be entitled to each week or two?

Essentially an entire expansion every two week is what some people want.

Strawman much?

It was an exaggeration.

Have you seen the videos of people who have solo’d that encounter? Perhaps watching what they did could help you out.

Cuddy.6247:

Ayrilana.1396:

All that I am seeing is you regurgitating/plagiarizing that article. Prices of all precursors could go to 5000 gold and you would not see a massive increase in prices everywhere else.

Mad cuz bad. Just because you’re ignorant and fail to understand inflation doesn’t mean the rest of the educated world does.

And no one here ever said you have to see all prices raise with inflation. That’s not how inflation works. Inflation just means that your currency buys less of a percentage. That’s a critical definition, because monetary growth will accompany inflation or buying patterns will be redefined.

In a video game, you see buying patterns redefined quite often because the sectors that see inflation, really see inflation. That means you have a larger redistribution from the inflated market sectors to the stable market sectors. Consumers aren’t willing to catch up with the market on it, which means it will continue to climb higher until it eventually crashes. Stock Market of 90s, anyone?

Here’s the problem though. You’re not understanding it correctly. It’s understood that as inflation rises, every dollar (or unit of currency) buys a smaller percentage of a good or service. This is straight off investopedia if you want to see where I took that from. In this game, inflation would cause 1G to lose its purchasing power.

However, you’re arguing something else completely that has nothing to do with it. You’re suggesting that because of precursor prices rising due to increased demand that there’s inflation because players now have less purchasing power as they cannot purchase as much of the other items as they could before when they buy their precursors. That’s like suggesting that we’re experiencing inflation when people buy cars because they cannot now use that money on other items.

Inflation is the loss in purchasing power of a currency, not your personal purchasing power because you have your funds tied up elsewhere.

Edit:

I’ll also add that you’ve stated that inflation is the sustained increase in the general level of prices of goods and services vyou’ve also stated that as inflation rises, currency buys a smaller percentage of a good or service. What you’re assuming is that if one market of items increase due to independent demand and supply mechanisms, this means inflation.

How does the increase of precursors affect the general price level of goods in the TP?

Just because the prices of precursors increases, doesn’t mean there’s inflation everywhere else in the ecoming. Inflation isn’t measure off one market of goods (luxury items).

WalkinGoon.2408:

Ayrilana.1396:

Shen Slayer.3058:

Simzani.4318:

Arenanet stoppped working in 2012, how could they be nominate for 2014 ?

I couldn’t stop laughing because its so true.

Yeah. All of the content we have gotten since release just magically appeared.

Don’t forget the stuff that magically disappeared too. :P

Yep. It still came from somewhere though.

Tumult.2578:

In a one account guild with numerous characters, how is this awarded?

If I do Tequatyl and then the Svanir Chief, that should be 10 events for 20 influence, right? Ten awards are recieved for completing each of the two event cycles.

If I then log to a different character and look at influence, I see the last character did 2 events for 4 influence. Is this working correctly?

These should help.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Influence
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Talk:Influence
http://www.guildwars2hub.com/guides/basics/guide-earning-guild-influence

Shen Slayer.3058:

Simzani.4318:

Arenanet stoppped working in 2012, how could they be nominate for 2014 ?

I couldn’t stop laughing because its so true.

Yeah. All of the content we have gotten since release just magically appeared.

More challenging content (hopefully)

misterman.1530:

Are we to seriously believe that the “economy” in this game is driven solely by supply-and-demand? I honestly believe that many, if not most, high end items are artificially inflated. For instance, why CAN’T I sell an item for less than some specific minimum price? In a truly market driven economy I should be able to sell a good at any price I see fit.

Question: has anyone tried to sell a legendary in the TP? What’s the minimum you can sell at?

For funsies, I put in a custom-price of 1g for The Bifrost. It allowed me to put it, will it allow someone to sell at that price?

The minimum price is the vendor price plus TP fees. What the problem?

All that I am seeing is you regurgitating/plagiarizing that article. Prices of all precursors could go to 5000 gold and you would not see a massive increase in prices everywhere else.

Cuddy.6247:

Ayrilana.1396:

Price level increase of general goods not for specific goods such as precursors. You do not measure inflation on luxury items.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation

No. Try using something other than Wikipedia as a source for information on the inner workings of inflation, because Wikipedia gets too much kitten wrong.

Inflation as a principle is not caused by monetary growth, the sideline campers who say that money growth -> inflation are wrong. Inflation happens first, and money growth accompanies it because agents in the economy need more money to carry out transactions.

That means, then, that inflation has different causes if money growth is not the cause of inflation. Which includes:

Market Power
Demand Pull
Asset Market Boom
Supply Shock

That means inflation occurs on a very real scale for everything. By causing inflation in one market (say, precursors), you lower the spending power in other markets (say, minipets) because more assets are being moved into a different market sector as a result of inflation. Your currency is buying less of a percentage of goods. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing, it’s how markets work. This is, however, 100% true inflation and saying it isn’t is negligible to the reality of economics. Luxury items or not, you’re dealing with inflation. Deal with it.

I sincerely advise you to read Theories of Inflation by Frisch or read any of John T. Harvey’s articles about inflation on Forbes to have a better idea of how inflation works outside of what jargon Wikipedia claims to be valid.

pdavis.8031:

If inflation were taking place on the level that people are claiming it to be. You would see the same increase of prices over all the items, and not just a select few. Elder wood logs also would have gone up considerably, but I think they actually dropped some.

No. See above.

Perhaps you should re-read the posts including mine. Inflation was being improperly used as they were using it specifically for precursors. You cannot do that despite what you’re suggesting.

I kind of want to hop onto my necro now and go spectral wall zergs in EotM.

Nope. Silence as usual.

Looked more like a rip off of some Final Fantasy titles.

Pipra.7580:

BlakThornArrow.2389:

hopefully its more content the next patch cause 30 minutes/ 1 hour of content aint cutting it.

What would ‘cut it’? How much free content should we be entitled to each week or two?

Essentially an entire expansion every two week is what some people want.

Shen Slayer.3058:

What confuse me is the last update with the jumping puzzle, why waste resources on it when Anet know full well that a lot of people don’t like JP. And look at it now, it’s practically empty. I don’t know who makes these final decisions at Anet, but that person needs to be replaced.

A lot of people love the JP and I have heard very few complaints about it.

What I’m curious about is whether the new login and daily rewards system kicks in upon the update or at daily reset later that day.

This could only be as an option to save builds of trait distributions and utilities.

Thuggernaut.1250:

Ayrilana.1396:

Thuggernaut.1250:

Zeivu.3615:

There is no way to back the value of bitcoins. Only a complete kitten would accept them for anything.

you could say the same thing about the dollar, or pretty much any other currency these days. the only things backing them are a few questionable promises, media coverage and public relations campaigns.

Usage. Everyone has accepted it and the value of the dollar is stable. Can you say the same for Bitcoin?

the dollar has existed for more than 200 years. bitcoin has existed for five or six years. given the same amount of time, bitcoin can achieve the same acceptability and stability (if not better) than the dollar.

the value of the dollar, stable? don’t make me laugh. if you consider an average decline in the real purchasing power of the dollar of 4% each year (for the last 30 years) as stable, let me have whatever it is you are smoking.

You may want to look into what currency stability actually means.

Zaxares.5419:

Other “demons” would include the Aatxes and possibly the Shades you fight in swampy locations like Godslost Swamp.

Unfortunately not.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Nightmare

Thuggernaut.1250:

Zeivu.3615:

There is no way to back the value of bitcoins. Only a complete kitten would accept them for anything.

you could say the same thing about the dollar, or pretty much any other currency these days. the only things backing them are a few questionable promises, media coverage and public relations campaigns.

Usage. Everyone has accepted it and the value of the dollar is stable. Can you say the same for Bitcoin?

I don’t know then. The best you can probably do is email support with your crash log unless one of them sees this thread before then.

Cuddy.6247:

Ayrilana.1396:

Cuddy.6247:

Ayrilana.1396:

Cuddy.6247:

hybrid.5027:

Lady Elvea.2847:

When I started on GW2 Legendaries cost something like 600g on the TP. That seemed astronomical to me at the time, but it was something I felt I could still work towards eventually and it was just a small segment of the market. Now that I actually could buy an item at that price, I can’t even buy most of the precursors because their prices have skyrocketed… and the number of other items that do cost around 600g has increased exponentially.

That does worry me a little from time to time.

Don’t worry because it’s not true. There was never a 600g legendary on the TP and so once that premise is eliminated your whole “omg inflation” story is pretty weak.

Hopefully they meant Precursors, which have suffered from a great deal of inflation.

Inflation does affect specific items. Precursor prices have been pretty stable.

What GW2 game have you been playing and how do I play that one?

Dusk
http://puu.sh/dqN9c/5e3486429b.png

Twilight
http://puu.sh/dqNbO/4fb1dc2f2e.png

Tell me how those Dusk prices are stable. Tell me.

I was referring to stable price in relation to inflation since that is after all what this thread was about although the term was improperly used.

What? Inflation wasn’t used incorrectly at all in this thread. Inflation is the general increase in price of goods/services. If you’re looking to define it with more foundation, inflation means that currency buys less of a percentage over time. It’s not exclusive from supply/demand, in fact, supply/demand and value perception cause inflation.

So…you’re completely wrong, precursors have been hit hard by inflation – being 300% of their value 2 years ago.

Whatever concept of relativism you think you’re interpreting, you’re not interpreting. Sorry.

Price level increase of general goods not for specific goods such as precursors. You do not measure inflation on luxury items.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation

Have you updated DirectX?

People have also suggested deleting the local.dat file but I’d wait for confirmation from those that are more familiar with this. I have limited knowledge as I haven’t rant into this problem before.

It may be worth posting your crash log though.

Do you use overlays?

Cuddy.6247:

Ayrilana.1396:

Cuddy.6247:

hybrid.5027:

Lady Elvea.2847:

When I started on GW2 Legendaries cost something like 600g on the TP. That seemed astronomical to me at the time, but it was something I felt I could still work towards eventually and it was just a small segment of the market. Now that I actually could buy an item at that price, I can’t even buy most of the precursors because their prices have skyrocketed… and the number of other items that do cost around 600g has increased exponentially.

That does worry me a little from time to time.

Don’t worry because it’s not true. There was never a 600g legendary on the TP and so once that premise is eliminated your whole “omg inflation” story is pretty weak.

Hopefully they meant Precursors, which have suffered from a great deal of inflation.

Inflation does affect specific items. Precursor prices have been pretty stable.

What GW2 game have you been playing and how do I play that one?

Dusk
http://puu.sh/dqN9c/5e3486429b.png

Twilight
http://puu.sh/dqNbO/4fb1dc2f2e.png

Tell me how those Dusk prices are stable. Tell me.

I was referring to stable price in relation to inflation since that is after all what this thread was about although the term was improperly used.

Are there even demons currently in the game? It’s not like we have access to Realm of Torment.

I’m asking the above based on the following statement:

Jeffrey Vaughn.1793:

Imps are not demons.

Lady Elvea.2847:

Ayrilana.1396:

Lady Elvea.2847:

Cuddy.6247:

hybrid.5027:

Lady Elvea.2847:

When I started on GW2 Legendaries cost something like 600g on the TP. That seemed astronomical to me at the time, but it was something I felt I could still work towards eventually and it was just a small segment of the market. Now that I actually could buy an item at that price, I can’t even buy most of the precursors because their prices have skyrocketed… and the number of other items that do cost around 600g has increased exponentially.

That does worry me a little from time to time.

Don’t worry because it’s not true. There was never a 600g legendary on the TP and so once that premise is eliminated your whole “omg inflation” story is pretty weak.

Hopefully they meant Precursors, which have suffered from a great deal of inflation.

Yes, I did mean precursors. Prices on those have skyrocketed and I’m wondering how much of that is down to pure supply and demand.

The majority of it influenced by changes from Anet.

Which they will vehemently deny for the rest of forever.

They have denied it? The changes to the effects of several legendaries increased the demand for them and in turn their respective precursors. The wardrobe update increased demand for legendaries and in turn their respective precursors. Both of these were due to changes that Anet made.

Lady Elvea.2847:

Cuddy.6247:

hybrid.5027:

Lady Elvea.2847:

When I started on GW2 Legendaries cost something like 600g on the TP. That seemed astronomical to me at the time, but it was something I felt I could still work towards eventually and it was just a small segment of the market. Now that I actually could buy an item at that price, I can’t even buy most of the precursors because their prices have skyrocketed… and the number of other items that do cost around 600g has increased exponentially.

That does worry me a little from time to time.

Don’t worry because it’s not true. There was never a 600g legendary on the TP and so once that premise is eliminated your whole “omg inflation” story is pretty weak.

Hopefully they meant Precursors, which have suffered from a great deal of inflation.

Yes, I did mean precursors. Prices on those have skyrocketed and I’m wondering how much of that is down to pure supply and demand.

The majority of it influenced by changes from Anet.

Cuddy.6247:

hybrid.5027:

Lady Elvea.2847:

When I started on GW2 Legendaries cost something like 600g on the TP. That seemed astronomical to me at the time, but it was something I felt I could still work towards eventually and it was just a small segment of the market. Now that I actually could buy an item at that price, I can’t even buy most of the precursors because their prices have skyrocketed… and the number of other items that do cost around 600g has increased exponentially.

That does worry me a little from time to time.

Don’t worry because it’s not true. There was never a 600g legendary on the TP and so once that premise is eliminated your whole “omg inflation” story is pretty weak.

Hopefully they meant Precursors, which have suffered from a great deal of inflation.

Inflation doesn’t affect specific items. Precursor prices have been pretty stable.

Edit: Fixed typo

http://www.digitalriver.com/our-company/newsroom/press-release/global-ecommerce-provider-digital-river-now-accepting-bitcoin/

Devildoc.6721:

Shaaba.5672:

Traherne being Sylvari could have been changed maybe. The Wild Hunt gave Anet an easy out storytelling wise. It reinforces the lore for the new race that each one has a personal mission, but it could have been reinforced in a different way, especially since they (I presume) knew the coming PS would be Sylvari heavy. You can deny that Traherne was a central figure in the PS, but it was a running joke that he was the hero of the PS while you tagged along. It’s not just a few people that feel that way. He was a main hero, I don’t think it’s reasonable to say he wasn’t.

Changing Scarlet into another race doesn’t work as well. If this is heading where I think it is, it’s important that she was Sylvari and will reinforce the continuity of the story as a whole. If we just jump from focus to focus each season, then we’d be getting complaints that Anet didn’t develop the story enough and it was shallow and disconnected.

I have patience and faith. Rytlock is surely setting up the next focus for the LS, so that reassures me that they have a long term plan. As long as the story is good – and on the whole it is – I don’t care that the Sylvari have been featured more often than not. The others will get their turn and I plan to be around long-term to see it play out.

I don’t see how Scarlet had to be Sylvari at all.

as for the extremely insistant person who is just plain wrong.. yes the other races are there, but as supporting cast only. The story arcs place Sylvari above the rest in importance.

Only in season two as the dragon can have influence over them. This is the only time that race has had more of a focus on over others.