Just because content is temporary, does not mean that it is not content.
True, but my point is: if you compare GW2 on release day and GW2 as it is right now, it doesn’t have as much content as you say it has. It had content, but barely has anything new.
GW2 as it is now cannot be considered as having much new content, and the fact they keep pushing new things away with poor (and shameless) excuses is ridiculous.
I admit, GW2 is free, it’s beautiful and I really like the gameplay. But compared to what we were promised, it’s a shame, and the keep hitting the franchise while it’s on the ground (for players who lived GW1).
We cannot say ANet didn’t do anything, but we can’t say they did anything significant.
Yes. The existing content from season one can no longer be experienced today. It was still content which was the point of my original argument. Anet learned from this with season two and created more permanent content. Hopefully in the future, they also add content for the areas of the game that players also play in such as dungeons, PvP, and WvW.
Read my posts. I stated that there was perement content and temporary content. Both are considered content.
If I get it right, you’ve got temporary money on your bank account, but if it reaches 0, you still have it since it’s money (even if it’s temporary).
So temporary is permanent because even if it’s invisible it still exists. Therefore permanent is permanent and temporary is temporary.
Makes total sense.
Wow lol
He is right though, your temporary content is worth NOTHING for this game. Not for new players that never experienced it, nor for veterans, as they cannot play it either anymore.
It is as useless as a infinite coin for SAB.
To new players, no. They never got to experience this content. For players since the release, yes. With season two, they made more permanent after the requests of many players. It is unfortunate that season one was not initially done like this as well.
The deal is however, is you and every other player are test subjects. This might be why this particular thing has come up over and over. We are all testing out Arenas ideas, and when they flop, we are either stuck with them, for extreme lengths of time or they just completely get removed.
So here we all are, in a flood of “basically the same game since release” with bugs that people have complained about since almost day one. It doesn’t even matter the amount of content, it matters more so how things are now, 2.5 years out of release. Including everything that’s wrong with the game, at it’s core.
I find it completely contradictory that they are reading the forums, but not responding to the most popular complaints, at all. If they do respond, it’s about as equal to a pat on the back.
Can we all honestly be ok with a 2+ year beta on the Mac client? The priorities in this company are mind boggling. Not that i even play on a mac, but still.
I agree with you about the problems that have existed since release have not been resolved. I also agree about the lack of content towards areas of the game that many players gravitate towards (dungeons, WvW, PvP). This is something I hope they do resolve in the future.
The Living Story was chosen over the expansion model as they wanted to have a world that would continually evolve over time and to maintain a consistent level of active players. The latter is difficult with the long development cycle of expansions.
They did this throughout season one of the living story. Those of us present during that got to experience all of the content provided through those releases. Those who were unable to play for whatever reasons unfortunately did not get to experience this content. Many players complained about a lot of the content being temporary so season two was made to be much more permanent so that players could go back at a later time and replay it.
Content whether temporary or permanent is still content. Those present during the season one releases got to experience them as if they had been permanent content. The content itself was not devalued as content because it was only temporary at that time. Many of us enjoyed the Marrionette encounter despite it being temporary.
Read my posts. I stated that there was perement content and temporary content. Both are considered content.
If I get it right, you’ve got temporary money on your bank account, but if it reaches 0, you still have it since it’s money (even if it’s temporary).
So temporary is permanent because even if it’s invisible it still exists. Therefore permanent is permanent and temporary is temporary.
Makes total sense.
Wow lol
Nah seriously, your logic is hard to get.
They did some job BUT removed it, and we should still consider they made it and that is it part of the final product we have, and we should understand that after two years they did twice more than what we see.
So, as a translator, I erased a third of the chapters I already translated (the first ones!), and I release a book, everyone must understand that I did my job yet removed content, but you can’t say I didn’t do what I had to do since I did it for the lucky ones that could witness my translating process.
Just because content is temporary, does not mean that it is not content.
Read my posts. I stated that there was perement content and temporary content. Both are considered content.
If I get it right, you’ve got temporary money on your bank account, but if it reaches 0, you still have it since it’s money (even if it’s temporary).
So temporary is permanent because even if it’s invisible it still exists. Therefore permanent is permanent and temporary is temporary.
Makes total sense.
Wow lol
He is right though, your temporary content is worth NOTHING for this game. Not for new players that never experienced it, nor for veterans, as they cannot play it either anymore.
It is as useless as a infinite coin for SAB.
To new players, no. They never got to experience this content. For players since the release, yes. With season two, they made more permanent after the requests of many players. It is unfortunate that season one was not initially done like this as well.
Read my posts. I stated that there was permanent content and temporary content. Both are considered content.
The temporary content was included on the list.
You are 100% correct on your word choice — it does fall under the label “content”. But you must admit that it is completely useless to anyone looking for something to do today.
Exactly. Anet listened to us and made season two more permanent. The problem is that the updates are now very less frequent.
I do not understand why ArenaNet are deliberately trying to kill this game!
Almost ZERO content has been added since release, and any content that is added is either finished within an hour or removed.I do not understand why you feel the need to deliberately post false statements!
If he’s going to argue that there’s no content, the least you could do is back up your response. Cause’ right now you’re going to lose this battle my friend.
Technically it’s up to the one stating there’s a lack of content to post their evidence as they’re the one who made the argument first.
My friend, you are not diving deep enough into this argument. Look forward not back.
Yeah… Still doesn’t change the fact that it’s not on him to provide the evidence. Arnath stated that almost zero content was added without provide any proof and mtpelion challenged it.
If you want, I can state that the state the Earth is flat, have you challenge this, and then say that you must prove me wrong.
You can’t prove that something doesn’t exist, how would you do that exactly? It is up to you to prove that there has been a substantial amount of content added.
Like this:
In the first 2 years of WoW Blizzard released:
8 new dungeons
5 new raids
10 new zones
1 new race
500+ quests
6 PvP maps
2 PvP modes
10 new levels
20+ new skills
50+ new talents
LFg system
Cross server system (first of its kind ever)
4 FestivalsWoW is considered the golden standard of MMO’s, your job would be to show that GW2 does indeed release a similar amount of content. (Hint: it doesn’t).
Ahh yes the old use a logical fallacy to end the argument when you lose….
Here I’ll start for you:
Number of zones added: 3*
New zones are 1/3 the size or smaller than original game zones
Number of new races: 0
Number of new classes: 0
Number of new legendary’s: 0
Number of new dungeons: 1
1 dungeon also removed
Number of new raids: 0
Number of new quests(DE’s): ~50
LFG Added
Fractals Added
New PvP modes: 1
Removed from rotation
New PvP maps: 3
One removed, one removed from rotation
Number of LS episodes: 29*
**22 removedNote: This was over 2.5 years as opposed to WoW’s Two years
Would you say that GW2 released a reasonable amount of content in those 2 years as compared to WoW?
Sorry but those items are not the definitive list of what counts as content. Those of us playing since release have experienced a wealth of content rather than the argued “almost zero”.
Wait.. hold up My friend. I’d like an explanation of what you define as “content”. I’ve been playing since release my friend, and I do not feel that there has been a wealth of content. Prove me wrong.
You know all of that which we did during season one? That was content. Content is more than just that list you posted. Whether permanent or temporary, content is still content. The Nightmare Tower, Scarlet’s Playhouse, Queen’s Pavillion, Assault on LA, and so on were all content. The story instances of season two were all content as well. The statement that there has been “almost zero” content is false.
I included all of those in the list under LS episodes.. Unless you are arguing that they weren’t removed… if so please point out where I can play them?
You posted everything briefly in a small list and broken out individual items to give the impression that there hasn’t been much content released.
The uphill battle is a strong one. Stay frosty my friend
You listed them living story releases as two or so bullet points in your list but then listed many other items to dwarf those releases.
Read my posts. I stated that there was perement content and temporary content. Both are considered content.
If I get it right, you’ve got temporary money on your bank account, but if it reaches 0, you still have it since it’s money (even if it’s temporary).
So temporary is permanent because even if it’s invisible it still exists. Therefore permanent is permanent and temporary is temporary.
Makes total sense.
Wow lol
I do not understand why ArenaNet are deliberately trying to kill this game!
Almost ZERO content has been added since release, and any content that is added is either finished within an hour or removed.I do not understand why you feel the need to deliberately post false statements!
If he’s going to argue that there’s no content, the least you could do is back up your response. Cause’ right now you’re going to lose this battle my friend.
Technically it’s up to the one stating there’s a lack of content to post their evidence as they’re the one who made the argument first.
My friend, you are not diving deep enough into this argument. Look forward not back.
Yeah… Still doesn’t change the fact that it’s not on him to provide the evidence. Arnath stated that almost zero content was added without provide any proof and mtpelion challenged it.
If you want, I can state that the state the Earth is flat, have you challenge this, and then say that you must prove me wrong.
You can’t prove that something doesn’t exist, how would you do that exactly? It is up to you to prove that there has been a substantial amount of content added.
Like this:
In the first 2 years of WoW Blizzard released:
8 new dungeons
5 new raids
10 new zones
1 new race
500+ quests
6 PvP maps
2 PvP modes
10 new levels
20+ new skills
50+ new talents
LFg system
Cross server system (first of its kind ever)
4 FestivalsWoW is considered the golden standard of MMO’s, your job would be to show that GW2 does indeed release a similar amount of content. (Hint: it doesn’t).
Ahh yes the old use a logical fallacy to end the argument when you lose….
Here I’ll start for you:
Number of zones added: 3*
New zones are 1/3 the size or smaller than original game zones
Number of new races: 0
Number of new classes: 0
Number of new legendary’s: 0
Number of new dungeons: 1
1 dungeon also removed
Number of new raids: 0
Number of new quests(DE’s): ~50
LFG Added
Fractals Added
New PvP modes: 1
Removed from rotation
New PvP maps: 3
One removed, one removed from rotation
Number of LS episodes: 29*
**22 removedNote: This was over 2.5 years as opposed to WoW’s Two years
Would you say that GW2 released a reasonable amount of content in those 2 years as compared to WoW?
Sorry but those items are not the definitive list of what counts as content. Those of us playing since release have experienced a wealth of content rather than the argued “almost zero”.
And your proof is…where?
Scroll up.
My friend, we mustn’t forget about the new players that have not experienced the same “content” as you have. Where is the awesome magical SAB box I’ve been hearing of, I’ve never experienced this wonder. I suppose I will have to walk to work today because my car engine is removed my friend.
Again, that was temporary content which newer players missed out on. This was resolved in season 2 although now we have very infrequent updates.
I do not understand why ArenaNet are deliberately trying to kill this game!
Almost ZERO content has been added since release, and any content that is added is either finished within an hour or removed.I do not understand why you feel the need to deliberately post false statements!
If he’s going to argue that there’s no content, the least you could do is back up your response. Cause’ right now you’re going to lose this battle my friend.
Technically it’s up to the one stating there’s a lack of content to post their evidence as they’re the one who made the argument first.
My friend, you are not diving deep enough into this argument. Look forward not back.
Yeah… Still doesn’t change the fact that it’s not on him to provide the evidence. Arnath stated that almost zero content was added without provide any proof and mtpelion challenged it.
If you want, I can state that the state the Earth is flat, have you challenge this, and then say that you must prove me wrong.
You can’t prove that something doesn’t exist, how would you do that exactly? It is up to you to prove that there has been a substantial amount of content added.
Like this:
In the first 2 years of WoW Blizzard released:
8 new dungeons
5 new raids
10 new zones
1 new race
500+ quests
6 PvP maps
2 PvP modes
10 new levels
20+ new skills
50+ new talents
LFg system
Cross server system (first of its kind ever)
4 FestivalsWoW is considered the golden standard of MMO’s, your job would be to show that GW2 does indeed release a similar amount of content. (Hint: it doesn’t).
Ahh yes the old use a logical fallacy to end the argument when you lose….
Here I’ll start for you:
Number of zones added: 3*
New zones are 1/3 the size or smaller than original game zones
Number of new races: 0
Number of new classes: 0
Number of new legendary’s: 0
Number of new dungeons: 1
1 dungeon also removed
Number of new raids: 0
Number of new quests(DE’s): ~50
LFG Added
Fractals Added
New PvP modes: 1
Removed from rotation
New PvP maps: 3
One removed, one removed from rotation
Number of LS episodes: 29*
**22 removedNote: This was over 2.5 years as opposed to WoW’s Two years
Would you say that GW2 released a reasonable amount of content in those 2 years as compared to WoW?
Sorry but those items are not the definitive list of what counts as content. Those of us playing since release have experienced a wealth of content rather than the argued “almost zero”.
Wait.. hold up My friend. I’d like an explanation of what you define as “content”. I’ve been playing since release my friend, and I do not feel that there has been a wealth of content. Prove me wrong.
You know all of that which we did during season one? That was content. Content is more than just that list you posted. Whether permanent or temporary, content is still content. The Nightmare Tower, Scarlet’s Playhouse, Queen’s Pavillion, Assault on LA, and so on were all content. The story instances of season two were all content as well. The statement that there has been “almost zero” content is false.
I included all of those in the list under LS episodes.. Unless you are arguing that they weren’t removed… if so please point out where I can play them?
You posted everything briefly in a small list and broken out individual items to give the impression that there hasn’t been much content released.
I do not understand why ArenaNet are deliberately trying to kill this game!
Almost ZERO content has been added since release, and any content that is added is either finished within an hour or removed.I do not understand why you feel the need to deliberately post false statements!
If he’s going to argue that there’s no content, the least you could do is back up your response. Cause’ right now you’re going to lose this battle my friend.
Technically it’s up to the one stating there’s a lack of content to post their evidence as they’re the one who made the argument first.
My friend, you are not diving deep enough into this argument. Look forward not back.
Yeah… Still doesn’t change the fact that it’s not on him to provide the evidence. Arnath stated that almost zero content was added without provide any proof and mtpelion challenged it.
If you want, I can state that the state the Earth is flat, have you challenge this, and then say that you must prove me wrong.
You can’t prove that something doesn’t exist, how would you do that exactly? It is up to you to prove that there has been a substantial amount of content added.
Like this:
In the first 2 years of WoW Blizzard released:
8 new dungeons
5 new raids
10 new zones
1 new race
500+ quests
6 PvP maps
2 PvP modes
10 new levels
20+ new skills
50+ new talents
LFg system
Cross server system (first of its kind ever)
4 FestivalsWoW is considered the golden standard of MMO’s, your job would be to show that GW2 does indeed release a similar amount of content. (Hint: it doesn’t).
Ahh yes the old use a logical fallacy to end the argument when you lose….
Here I’ll start for you:
Number of zones added: 3*
New zones are 1/3 the size or smaller than original game zones
Number of new races: 0
Number of new classes: 0
Number of new legendary’s: 0
Number of new dungeons: 1
1 dungeon also removed
Number of new raids: 0
Number of new quests(DE’s): ~50
LFG Added
Fractals Added
New PvP modes: 1
Removed from rotation
New PvP maps: 3
One removed, one removed from rotation
Number of LS episodes: 29*
**22 removedNote: This was over 2.5 years as opposed to WoW’s Two years
Would you say that GW2 released a reasonable amount of content in those 2 years as compared to WoW?
Sorry but those items are not the definitive list of what counts as content. Those of us playing since release have experienced a wealth of content rather than the argued “almost zero”.
Wait.. hold up My friend. I’d like an explanation of what you define as “content”. I’ve been playing since release my friend, and I do not feel that there has been a wealth of content. Prove me wrong.
You know all of that which we did during season one? That was content. Content is more than just that list you posted. Whether permanent or temporary, content is still content. The Nightmare Tower, Scarlet’s Playhouse, Queen’s Pavillion, Assault on LA, and so on were all content. The story instances of season two were all content as well. The statement that there has been “almost zero” content is false.
With such a logic, everything your ancestors possessed was still a part of your wealth, therefore you must be extremely rich and you should pay a tax on the estate you’ve had since the birth of your lineage.
You simply cannot state that something that was removed is part of something that exist. If you remove the engine of your car, it doesn’t work, you cannot say “I use my car everyday” simply because you had an engine.
Read my posts. I stated that there was permanent content and temporary content. Both are considered content.
I do not understand why ArenaNet are deliberately trying to kill this game!
Almost ZERO content has been added since release, and any content that is added is either finished within an hour or removed.I do not understand why you feel the need to deliberately post false statements!
If he’s going to argue that there’s no content, the least you could do is back up your response. Cause’ right now you’re going to lose this battle my friend.
Technically it’s up to the one stating there’s a lack of content to post their evidence as they’re the one who made the argument first.
My friend, you are not diving deep enough into this argument. Look forward not back.
Yeah… Still doesn’t change the fact that it’s not on him to provide the evidence. Arnath stated that almost zero content was added without provide any proof and mtpelion challenged it.
If you want, I can state that the state the Earth is flat, have you challenge this, and then say that you must prove me wrong.
You can’t prove that something doesn’t exist, how would you do that exactly? It is up to you to prove that there has been a substantial amount of content added.
Like this:
In the first 2 years of WoW Blizzard released:
8 new dungeons
5 new raids
10 new zones
1 new race
500+ quests
6 PvP maps
2 PvP modes
10 new levels
20+ new skills
50+ new talents
LFg system
Cross server system (first of its kind ever)
4 FestivalsWoW is considered the golden standard of MMO’s, your job would be to show that GW2 does indeed release a similar amount of content. (Hint: it doesn’t).
Ahh yes the old use a logical fallacy to end the argument when you lose….
Here I’ll start for you:
Number of zones added: 3*
New zones are 1/3 the size or smaller than original game zones
Number of new races: 0
Number of new classes: 0
Number of new legendary’s: 0
Number of new dungeons: 1
1 dungeon also removed
Number of new raids: 0
Number of new quests(DE’s): ~50
LFG Added
Fractals Added
New PvP modes: 1
Removed from rotation
New PvP maps: 3
One removed, one removed from rotation
Number of LS episodes: 29*
**22 removedNote: This was over 2.5 years as opposed to WoW’s Two years
Would you say that GW2 released a reasonable amount of content in those 2 years as compared to WoW?
Sorry but those items are not the definitive list of what counts as content. Those of us playing since release have experienced a wealth of content rather than the argued “almost zero”.
And your proof is…where?
Scroll up.
I do not understand why ArenaNet are deliberately trying to kill this game!
Almost ZERO content has been added since release, and any content that is added is either finished within an hour or removed.I do not understand why you feel the need to deliberately post false statements!
If he’s going to argue that there’s no content, the least you could do is back up your response. Cause’ right now you’re going to lose this battle my friend.
Technically it’s up to the one stating there’s a lack of content to post their evidence as they’re the one who made the argument first.
My friend, you are not diving deep enough into this argument. Look forward not back.
Yeah… Still doesn’t change the fact that it’s not on him to provide the evidence. Arnath stated that almost zero content was added without provide any proof and mtpelion challenged it.
If you want, I can state that the state the Earth is flat, have you challenge this, and then say that you must prove me wrong.
You can’t prove that something doesn’t exist, how would you do that exactly? It is up to you to prove that there has been a substantial amount of content added.
Like this:
In the first 2 years of WoW Blizzard released:
8 new dungeons
5 new raids
10 new zones
1 new race
500+ quests
6 PvP maps
2 PvP modes
10 new levels
20+ new skills
50+ new talents
LFg system
Cross server system (first of its kind ever)
4 FestivalsWoW is considered the golden standard of MMO’s, your job would be to show that GW2 does indeed release a similar amount of content. (Hint: it doesn’t).
Ahh yes the old use a logical fallacy to end the argument when you lose….
Here I’ll start for you:
Number of zones added: 3*
New zones are 1/3 the size or smaller than original game zones
Number of new races: 0
Number of new classes: 0
Number of new legendary’s: 0
Number of new dungeons: 1
1 dungeon also removed
Number of new raids: 0
Number of new quests(DE’s): ~50
LFG Added
Fractals Added
New PvP modes: 1
Removed from rotation
New PvP maps: 3
One removed, one removed from rotation
Number of LS episodes: 29*
**22 removedNote: This was over 2.5 years as opposed to WoW’s Two years
Would you say that GW2 released a reasonable amount of content in those 2 years as compared to WoW?
Sorry but those items are not the definitive list of what counts as content. Those of us playing since release have experienced a wealth of content rather than the argued “almost zero”.
Wait.. hold up My friend. I’d like an explanation of what you define as “content”. I’ve been playing since release my friend, and I do not feel that there has been a wealth of content. Prove me wrong.
You know all of that which we did during season one? That was content. Content is more than just that list you posted. Whether permanent or temporary, content is still content. The Nightmare Tower, Scarlet’s Playhouse, Queen’s Pavillion, Assault on LA, and so on were all content. The story instances of season two were all content as well. The statement that there has been “almost zero” content is false.
I do not understand why ArenaNet are deliberately trying to kill this game!
Almost ZERO content has been added since release, and any content that is added is either finished within an hour or removed.I do not understand why you feel the need to deliberately post false statements!
If he’s going to argue that there’s no content, the least you could do is back up your response. Cause’ right now you’re going to lose this battle my friend.
Technically it’s up to the one stating there’s a lack of content to post their evidence as they’re the one who made the argument first.
My friend, you are not diving deep enough into this argument. Look forward not back.
Yeah… Still doesn’t change the fact that it’s not on him to provide the evidence. Arnath stated that almost zero content was added without provide any proof and mtpelion challenged it.
If you want, I can state that the state the Earth is flat, have you challenge this, and then say that you must prove me wrong.
You can’t prove that something doesn’t exist, how would you do that exactly? It is up to you to prove that there has been a substantial amount of content added.
Like this:
In the first 2 years of WoW Blizzard released:
8 new dungeons
5 new raids
10 new zones
1 new race
500+ quests
6 PvP maps
2 PvP modes
10 new levels
20+ new skills
50+ new talents
LFg system
Cross server system (first of its kind ever)
4 FestivalsWoW is considered the golden standard of MMO’s, your job would be to show that GW2 does indeed release a similar amount of content. (Hint: it doesn’t).
Ahh yes the old use a logical fallacy to end the argument when you lose….
Here I’ll start for you:
Number of zones added: 3*
New zones are 1/3 the size or smaller than original game zones
Number of new races: 0
Number of new classes: 0
Number of new legendary’s: 0
Number of new dungeons: 1
1 dungeon also removed
Number of new raids: 0
Number of new quests(DE’s): ~50
LFG Added
Fractals Added
New PvP modes: 1
Removed from rotation
New PvP maps: 3
One removed, one removed from rotation
Number of LS episodes: 29*
**22 removedNote: This was over 2.5 years as opposed to WoW’s Two years
Would you say that GW2 released a reasonable amount of content in those 2 years as compared to WoW?
Sorry but those items are not the definitive list of what counts as content. Those of us playing since release have experienced a wealth of content rather than the argued “almost zero”.
I do not understand why ArenaNet are deliberately trying to kill this game!
Almost ZERO content has been added since release, and any content that is added is either finished within an hour or removed.I do not understand why you feel the need to deliberately post false statements!
If he’s going to argue that there’s no content, the least you could do is back up your response. Cause’ right now you’re going to lose this battle my friend.
Technically it’s up to the one stating there’s a lack of content to post their evidence as they’re the one who made the argument first.
My friend, you are not diving deep enough into this argument. Look forward not back.
Yeah… Still doesn’t change the fact that it’s not on him to provide the evidence. Arnath stated that almost zero content was added without provide any proof and mtpelion challenged it.
If you want, I can state that the state the Earth is flat, have you challenge this, and then say that you must prove me wrong.
http://theflatearthsociety.org/cms/
Edit. You’re still missing the entire point. But the earth is flat.. go on
No. I’m arguing against the initial post that I quoted. You’re defending the individual’s argument, which was not backed up by anything, by saying that those that disagree should provide proof to their arguments and that anyone who disagrees that they should over the person who made the claim is just missing the point.
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I do not understand why ArenaNet are deliberately trying to kill this game!
Almost ZERO content has been added since release, and any content that is added is either finished within an hour or removed.I do not understand why you feel the need to deliberately post false statements!
If he’s going to argue that there’s no content, the least you could do is back up your response. Cause’ right now you’re going to lose this battle my friend.
Technically it’s up to the one stating there’s a lack of content to post their evidence as they’re the one who made the argument first.
My friend, you are not diving deep enough into this argument. Look forward not back.
Yeah… Still doesn’t change the fact that it’s not on him to provide the evidence. Arnath stated that almost zero content was added without provide any proof and mtpelion challenged it.
If you want, I can state that the state the Earth is flat, have you challenge this, and then say that you must prove me wrong.
Actually, anyone who makes a statement should back it up with evidence, regardless if it was in response to someone else.
Otherwise the comment is just as hollow as the original post
True, that it’s best when done that way but it’s not required initially when someone opposes the initial argument which lacked evidence or facts to back it up.
I do not understand why ArenaNet are deliberately trying to kill this game!
Almost ZERO content has been added since release, and any content that is added is either finished within an hour or removed.I do not understand why you feel the need to deliberately post false statements!
If he’s going to argue that there’s no content, the least you could do is back up your response. Cause’ right now you’re going to lose this battle my friend.
Technically it’s up to the one stating there’s a lack of content to post their evidence as they’re the one who made the argument first.
My friend, you are not diving deep enough into this argument. Look forward not back.
Yeah… Still doesn’t change the fact that it’s not on him to provide the evidence. Arnath stated that almost zero content was added without provide any proof and mtpelion challenged it.
If you want, I can state that the state the Earth is flat, have you challenge this, and then say that you must prove me wrong.
You can’t prove that something doesn’t exist, how would you do that exactly? It is up to you to prove that there has been a substantial amount of content added.
Like this:
In the first 2 years of WoW Blizzard released:
8 new dungeons
5 new raids
10 new zones
1 new race
500+ quests
6 PvP maps
2 PvP modes
10 new levels
20+ new skills
50+ new talents
LFg system
Cross server system (first of its kind ever)
4 FestivalsWoW is considered the golden standard of MMO’s, your job would be to show that GW2 does indeed release a similar amount of content. (Hint: it doesn’t).
Hover the mouse cursor over the symbol of each one.
Or this:
I do not understand why ArenaNet are deliberately trying to kill this game!
Almost ZERO content has been added since release, and any content that is added is either finished within an hour or removed.I do not understand why you feel the need to deliberately post false statements!
If he’s going to argue that there’s no content, the least you could do is back up your response. Cause’ right now you’re going to lose this battle my friend.
Technically it’s up to the one stating there’s a lack of content to post their evidence as they’re the one who made the argument first.
My friend, you are not diving deep enough into this argument. Look forward not back.
Yeah… Still doesn’t change the fact that it’s not on him to provide the evidence. Arnath stated that almost zero content was added without provide any proof and mtpelion challenged it.
If you want, I can state that the state the Earth is flat, have you challenge this, and then say that you must prove me wrong.
Or acknowledgement that both dungeons and fractals will be ignored now?
Couldn’t resist asking that.
I do not understand why ArenaNet are deliberately trying to kill this game!
Almost ZERO content has been added since release, and any content that is added is either finished within an hour or removed.I do not understand why you feel the need to deliberately post false statements!
If he’s going to argue that there’s no content, the least you could do is back up your response. Cause’ right now you’re going to lose this battle my friend.
Technically it’s up to the one stating there’s a lack of content to post their evidence as they’re the one who made the argument first.
You can’t do both.
Yes, you can. Most MMOs, or at least AAA MMOs, do this actually. That’s why I called it ‘by industry standard’. The living story – once announced with thunderous fanfares – is nothing else what most MMOs do between expansions. Some short story snipplets here and there to please the community. Fact is that other companies managed to cater regular expansions every two years. Expansions with 10-15 maps, new races, campaign, raids, dungeons etc etc.
Besides; that ‘release every two weeks’ is a joke by now. We get 4 releases after months of nothing and then after months of hiatus again some story snipplets.
You really seem biased by the talking of Anet that everything takes sooooo much time. It’s true that Anet has a different approach which takes longer. But the little amount of content we got after more than two years is ridiculous compared to other MMOs in the industry.
Fact is that with no expansion there is no publicity and with no publicity there is no new players (at least not the big masses). Hence the income goes down and down. I know not a single person pesonally who still plays GW2. They are all gone, it’s only the longterm hardcore fans, the guys who can’t afford a monthly fee or newcomers who are in this game now.
You’re completely ignoring all of the content that we got during season one although quite a lot of it was temporary. So which games regularly release updates like the living story as well as doing expansions?
Having only played three major MMOs regularly and to an extent at which i’m comfortable talking about their pros and cons, i’d say FFXIV does this.
The sheer amount of quality content they put out completely puts ANet and their LS to shame. Just take a look at some of those patchnotes.
They put out very long story segments with each patch that result in an epic bossfight, new classes (!), housing with gardening, pvp modes, pet/mount raising, a gigantic list of new armor sets each time and the list goes on and on. All that while the had an expansion in the works that is -according to Yoshida- comparable in size to the main game.
It’s definitely possible.
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Not really with the size of their team. None of the other games matched continuous content updates like in season one. Had season two followed the every two week schedule, I’d say it would be the same as an expansion. However, with these large gaps, I’m starting to agree that perhaps it may be failing. But not for the lack of content like people are arguing but for the lack of frequency of releases.
You’re completely ignoring all of the content that we got during season one although quite a lot of it was temporary. So which games regularly release updates like the living story as well as doing expansions?
Almost every MMO in existence today does this, WoW does it, SWoTR does it, heck it goes as far back as Asheron’s Call and Everquest. I’m not sure what your experience with MMO’s is but I’ve been playing them since the onset of their very existence and I can tell you from that experience that this format has been used extensively. It may be monthly or quarterly but the amount will be roughly the same, it is the reason those games continue to exist and many flourish still today.
You know, I could make an argument against this and so on but now I don’t care. I’m finally annoyed at how infrequent content updates have become and how they rely on filler releases (WvW tournaments, holidays, etc) to bridge the gaps.
Having to wait until next year for the next episode is ridiculous.
I’m so sick of the personal story and living story focusing on humans.
Personal Story: Humans
LS Season 1: Humans
LS Season 2: Humans
In all seriousness, if Traherne was a Norn then people would complain that the personal story was focusing on the Norn too much. If Scarlet was a Norn, they’d complain that season 1 was focusing on the Norn too much.
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I went ahead and farmed so that I had 25 of each, saved 8k crests, plus I saved all of the nightmare keys that I got for successful completion. This should be more than enough to eliminate any further grinding next episode.
You can’t do both.
Yes, you can. Most MMOs, or at least AAA MMOs, do this actually. That’s why I called it ‘by industry standard’. The living story – once announced with thunderous fanfares – is nothing else what most MMOs do between expansions. Some short story snipplets here and there to please the community. Fact is that other companies managed to cater regular expansions every two years. Expansions with 10-15 maps, new races, campaign, raids, dungeons etc etc.
Besides; that ‘release every two weeks’ is a joke by now. We get 4 releases after months of nothing and then after months of hiatus again some story snipplets.
You really seem biased by the talking of Anet that everything takes sooooo much time. It’s true that Anet has a different approach which takes longer. But the little amount of content we got after more than two years is ridiculous compared to other MMOs in the industry.
Fact is that with no expansion there is no publicity and with no publicity there is no new players (at least not the big masses). Hence the income goes down and down. I know not a single person pesonally who still plays GW2. They are all gone, it’s only the longterm hardcore fans, the guys who can’t afford a monthly fee or newcomers who are in this game now.
You’re completely ignoring all of the content that we got during season one although quite a lot of it was temporary. So which games regularly release updates like the living story as well as doing expansions?
If they had the staff to do both, don’t you think the Living Story episodes would be larger?
People go once they’ve gone through the content and there’s nothing left that interests them. Many players rush through it so that they’re the first ones done. I remember someone beat Factions the very first day.If you don’t like the way they’re doing it with the living story then this may not be the game for you. I say this because I doubt they’re going to change and start doing an expansion.
Two plus years is not rushing through content, granted there are game locusts that’s a fact of life but I don’t see how you can justify there not being a need to expand the world at a much faster pace. As far as staff that argument has been dealt with many times in many threads over the last few months, Anet themselves have confirmed that the LS staff represents a very small margin of it’s total development staff.
So it is entirely possible to develop both LS and expansions and it isn’t out of the realm of feasibility that they have been working towards one over the last few years at whatever rate they could.I highly doubt Anet realistically believes that they can keep the game growing with the marginal amount of content being released through the LS. It comes no where near the type or volume many different players are expecting this far post launch.
A large percentage had exhausted the existing content within a year. Also, I was speaking about expansions in the first place.
You can’t do both.
Of course they can considering the size of the LS team. It’s been done in several MMO’s in the past. It makes perfect sense to do both, it would give them the right combination of content and story plus earn decent money from players who are always engaged and want to stay in Tyria.
If they had the staff to do both, don’t you think the Living Story episodes would be larger?
Not everyone dislikes the living story and believes it to be a failure. Of course people are going to want more and it’s split into two week segments compared to an expansion. However, you’re going to still have the same gap without new content whether it be with the LS or an expansion. The only difference being the duration of the gap.
During these times, people will come and go. That’s what happens in all MMO’s. Do you think there there will be as many players actively playing WoW right now compared to a couple months from now once they’ve exhausted the new content? Likely not. Remember how everyone seemed to come back to GW1 once news of GW2 was released and people worked on their HOM?
The living story format is very much part of GW2. If you prefer your content in large chunks, I suggest not playing any of it until it’s reached your desired size. If this still isn’t enough then unfortunately this may no longer be a game that you’ll enjoy.
Yes, people come and go, but not that many, not that quick, and not for so long.
It took me only 2 months to level up, explore the world, finish the story, fully gear two characters and visit all eight dungeons in game, “now what?”. Nothing really, for at least two more years. This living story thing should be nothing more than a background for something bigger, simply because it lacks content and replayability. They had some nice ideas in the past, new dungeon path, world bosses, but they make it so annoying and exhausting, I can’t play more than it’s necessary for achievements. Living story is no real content, just a few time gated achievement grind events which I don’t even remember. Where is the team that designed this game? It feels so different now. I was amazed by GW2 when I first saw it, but it feels like it’s getting worse, because designers have absolutely no idea what to do. They come up with ideas on the spot, how it’s supposed to be interesting? It’s their game and they don’t know how to create an interesting plot or a challenging fight? (no, not knockback, pushback, pull, push, immobilize, instant kill, and dps impossible to reach on a map full of random people).
Speaking about WoW, this game is 10 years old. Big part of it was obsolete, too long, unnecessairly annoying by now, but they learn, they change and improve. And the story wasn’t ever cheesy, not even pandas. People, including me are still playing WotLK on private servers, and it’s 7 years old. I can’t compare it to shredded pieces of content every 2 weeks for a year (and in game almost 3 years old, they had TBC, GW2 had Scarlet).
And yes, I prefer larger pieces of content, only I need to pay for it, if I don’t log in on time. Choice between: make myself play right now, pay to play later, or don’t play at all, ever.
People go once they’ve gone through the content and there’s nothing left that interests them. Many players rush through it so that they’re the first ones done. I remember someone beat Factions the very first day.
If you don’t like the way they’re doing it with the living story then this may not be the game for you. I say this because I doubt they’re going to change and start doing an expansion.
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You can’t do both.
Each town as an Asura Gate, it’s purple, which takes you to Lion’s Arch. When you arrive there, you’ll see portals to the other cities. Take the portal to the city he is at.
Timberline Falls was the first place that came to mind when seeing it.
Not everyone dislikes the living story and believes it to be a failure. Of course people are going to want more and it’s split into two week segments compared to an expansion. However, you’re going to still have the same gap without new content whether it be with the LS or an expansion. The only difference being the duration of the gap.
During these times, people will come and go. That’s what happens in all MMO’s. Do you think there there will be as many players actively playing WoW right now compared to a couple months from now once they’ve exhausted the new content? Likely not. Remember how everyone seemed to come back to GW1 once news of GW2 was released and people worked on their HOM?
The living story format is very much part of GW2. If you prefer your content in large chunks, I suggest not playing any of it until it’s reached your desired size. If this still isn’t enough then unfortunately this may no longer be a game that you’ll enjoy.
But… But… Hard mode is too hard.
1. Always be moving before you jump.
2. Many jumps are easier or cannot be done without at least a 25% speed boost.
3. Dodge Jump is an advanced technique where you press V and Space at the same time for your jump, it gets a slight distance boost as well.
4. You can actually jump after you’ve left the platform but you have only 2ms(milliseconds) to hit the space bar or you fall, this also gives a slight distance advantage.Techniques 1,2,4 can be combined with 3 to enhance your jump.
So, I don’t believe dodge jump currently exists. I spent an hour practicing and never saw it once. I fully believe it once existed, but either it did not when I practiced, or my keyboard will not allow it. If I can’t trigger it once in an hour of practice on solid ground, I can’t do it.
Can anyone explain why it doesn’t work for me?
It’s your timing.
I’ve seen people claiming that they ripped off LoL.
It wasn’t so much about new ways but getting the chests after you had already bought them. A lot of people have ran into this issue and there’s no way to exchange them for crests. I found it best to wait until the last update and then buy everything you need after you’re done farming. This way you won’t waste crests.
When I farmed, I would alternate between red rock and indigo since they were very close to each other.
For the executioner, you could trying posting a LFG and checking on there. People have found success that way.
Since this thread is about rangers, I have one thing to add.
Do not spam point blank shot to knock back enemies when in a group or zerg. It’s incredibly annoying for melee players and you disrupt their attack chains.
They usually cycle between two forts doing defend events and escorts. There are ways to increase the output but it’s frowned upon by some players. Getting 111 from two complete cycles is on the low end.
I got two boots from the bandit chests and one from the nightmare chest. I would personally hold out on buying anything from vendors until the next episode.
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Has anyone timed the walls to see if they’re on a set schedule?
Why do you need the bags?
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Stacking is really no different than having your healer watch health bars, or dps sitting at range and facerolling his/her keyboard. I
I’ve seen people who are anti-stacking bring up GW1. How was body blocking with minions and spirits any different?
They’re doing dragons with the LS so Cantha is definitely not happening anytime soon unless Bubbles is somehow connected with it. Elona is a possibilty with Kralk but don’t expect anything until at least after the next season.
For the most part I have seen mesmers in map chat offering free ports. I always consider it polite to tip though. I actually enjoy jumping puzzles though so I rarely use their services.
I’m not sure what you’re really complaining about OP – just envious of their earning potential? Feel free to create yourself a mesmer and then you can demand gold from people too, if that’s what you believe mesmers are doing.
That or they’re tired of seeing them clutter up the LFG when they shouldn’t be there. Likely the former.
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So you’re assuming that creating 10-15 new maps will not take much time? You’re expecting new races, classes, traits, utilities, etc to not take much time either? I’m not saying it’ll take the entire length that it took to create GW2 but to expect all of this within a year or two timeframe doesn’t make much sense.
Belltower was the worst for me. That guy hits REALLY hard, dazes you constantly, bleeds you, his minion buddy freezes you and he gets retaliation every now and again. I also never managed to solo Belltower just because this bugger would daze me at the worst possible times. I’m sure it’d be much easier if I had access to stability more often but for this guy, I never succeeded.
Belltower spawn minions? Or you mean the Shrine?
Bell tower has a vet there too. Normally not a problem as it’s dead within seconds.
Has the person that started the instance completed the story on that character? That’s one possibility.
I am by far no expert, but I would appreciate it not to buy or farm those damask again. It’s 7 or 8 times the amount of leather/ingot. Isn’t that a bit out of place? No one cared that silk was worth nothing (well 7c). Maybe you are just a slik farmer and defending your own interests? :-)
Nope. I’m planning in crafting 3 more sets within the next month. People didn’t care about silk before because it had no use and hardly impacted them. Kind of like those logs you get from the starter zones.
What about to the west where there are 3 pretty distinct “lanes” that seem to converge on a single point that, as of now, is behind a wall of vines?
There’s that too. There’s still plenty of the map left to be revealed and it’s been noticed by those that know how to get out of the map. Someone posted screenshots of what they found in the NW corner last week.
Well, I hope the LS are just fillers. Everything else would be ridiculous compared to industry standard. I hope they work on an expansion with a new campaign with 10-15 new maps, dungeons and raids, new skills, traits, weapons, classes or races. Everything else would be a letdown.
So you’re expecting them to release an expansion roughly the size of the current game? Do you realize how long it took them to make GW2?
Yes, I follow this franchise since 2006. They released 2 campaigns within 1.5 years, about 1/2 and 2/3 the size/content of the original game with 4 new professions and features.
Yes, I know games become more complex. But I mentioned the ‘industry standard’ not just be cause; there are numerous examples that release amounts of ‘living story’ AND in addition expansions every 2 year. Just look up some of the leading MMOs (no, not only WoW).
You can’t compare what they did in GW1 as that game was entirely different. It’d be like comparing Diablo 3 to WoW. The only thing that GW1 and GW2 have in common is the basic design of the world and the lore. The maps, combat system, etc are completely different.
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