Making them (the craftable ones) account bound will not mean they won’t affect the existing market.
Yes it will. You cant sell them. The only affect it will have is people who may have otherwise bought one will now be able to craft one instead.
Let me put it this way. If people can craft precursors, how do you think that would affect demand for the ones you can buy? This is under the assumption that they’re essentially the same precursor.
They probably do it so it’s easier to manage rather than let players set a variable amount to buy. Also there’s the times when they place items at 1,000 gems forcing players to purchase 1,600 gems.
Those card services are third party companies. They have no control over them. Those companies likely do that to get you to buy more cards.
Edit: I was thinking they were cards directly tied to purchases for GW2. After looking it up, I see they’re just one of those electronic credit card companies. Your money is not “wasted” as you can use the remaining money on something else.
If I notice them harassing players for trying to do the event then I purposely go out of my way to complete it. It’s exactly what I did with the Queensdale train when they harassed other players.
The math I did a month ago that put them at 550 gold and 500 gold, respectively, was incorrect. I goofed with how I did the Thermocatalytic Reagent calculation. It was actually 478.26 vs 391.23. As of this morning it was sitting at 467.92 vs 374.58.
It wasn’t over correction as the game’s economist said it was on purpose.
Yes it was an over correction, and yes the game economist said the over correction was on purpose. The extreme requirements for that one item has given value to quite a number of items, including karma.
I expect we’ll see more of this thinking even if we don’t like it much, and that’s why we’re seeing more and more account bound crafting lately. That sucks too.
The bolded statement of your post is illogical. I respectfully suggest double checking the definition of over-correction. It’s impossible for a result to be an over-correction if that result was intended.
That’s not true. Consider an over correction in a car that is starting to slide. Now it definitely can be an intended over correction to show the effects of such……ie Here’s what happens when one over corrects when starting to loose control.
And there you have it. A perfectly possible example of an intended over correction. You can take that check to the bank and cash it too.
No, for reasons I already mentioned in my post you quoted.
Edit: I don’t believe you understand the usage of words such as under and over when used as prefixes.
In any case, can we drop this and get back to the subject of the thread rather than a discussion on grammar?
To get this back on topic, if anything is done that reduces silk scrap prices by 50%, an increase of 14% or more in other scrap prices would put players worst off. Any change in silk would increase demand for all scraps so you can be pretty certain that prices would rise more than 14%.
You said it wasn’t possible. I showed that it was. Care to rethink?
All you showed was that you don’t understand what under and over do when used as prefixes.
If silk prices were adjusted to be 50% of what they are now, a 13% price increase of the other scraps would break even with the current costs of damask cloth. Any more of an increase and you lose gold by the change. You can be pretty sure that prices of the other scraps would rise more than 13%.
Also, it used to be a 50 gold difference when I did the calculation over a month ago. I’ll have to wait until I get home to compare the difference in prices and see what the cause is.
It wasn’t over correction as the game’s economist said it was on purpose.
Yes it was an over correction, and yes the game economist said the over correction was on purpose. The extreme requirements for that one item has given value to quite a number of items, including karma.
I expect we’ll see more of this thinking even if we don’t like it much, and that’s why we’re seeing more and more account bound crafting lately. That sucks too.
The bolded statement of your post is illogical. I respectfully suggest double checking the definition of over-correction. It’s impossible for a result to be an over-correction if that result was intended.
That’s not true. Consider an over correction in a car that is starting to slide. Now it definitely can be an intended over correction to show the effects of such……ie Here’s what happens when one over corrects when starting to loose control.
And there you have it. A perfectly possible example of an intended over correction. You can take that check to the bank and cash it too.
No, for reasons I already mentioned in my post you quoted.
Edit: I don’t believe you understand the usage of words such as under and over when used as prefixes.
In any case, can we drop this and get back to the subject of the thread rather than a discussion on grammar?
To get this back on topic, if anything is done that reduces silk scrap prices by 50%, an increase of 14% or more in other scrap prices would put players worst off. Any change in silk would increase demand for all scraps so you can be pretty certain that prices would rise more than 14%.
I also want to add that you can attack the statue for a few seconds before the fight actually starts.
I’m actually curious how it can take people 15+ minutes. I did it in maybe 5-7 minutes (wasn’t keeping track) solo with guardian. I did not use stability nor did I negate CC with aegis from the statue’s attacks as everything (really only one attack) was avoided by dodging. The statue will only use the hammer attack if you’re within range in front. It never used it when I attacked from the sides.
This thread is so full of misinformation it’s unbelievable.
First of all, it is not just a 50 gold difference. For example, the difference between Zojja’s Doublet (Light) and Zojja’s Breastplate (Heavy) is already 33 gold. That’s just one piece of armor.
Second of all, for all the people who are saying that the change is intended. Please don’t be sheep and just repeat something just because “an economist” says so. He never said why silk prices are intended as they are and it just doesn’t make sense balance wise to agree with his statement. Light classes are getting shafted because of this imbalance and the forum keeps getting flooded by new threads like these.
The thought that lowering the price of silk might increase the price of the lower level cloths is true. It shows how imbalanced the whole supply mechanic is of cloths. While trees can be cut and ore can be mined there is no reliable source for cloth. As long as this isn’t changed light classes will have to pay a higher margin and these threads will keep making their return.
It’s not a 33 gold difference so you did something different. That’s my initial guess but I had calculated the entire set rather than what it was per piece. That 50 gold difference was calculated by comparing the buy order differences between the components needed for both sets. The only way I can see you getting 33 gold is by buying everything outright from the TP at the sell prices.
You people have twisted my thread into: “this fight is too hard/easy”, when my main gripe with it was overuse of CC’s and being disappointed by the increasing trend of its use in the game in general.
But w/ever.
What overuse of CC? Everything has orange circles except is breath attack that causes chill. Everything but the breath attack can be avoided.
I thought we were hoping for a “scavenger hunt” for precursors, not a “needlessly time-gated grind, partially influenced by RNG or just buy the component… thing”.
The scavenger hunt would likely be time gated. Something like you need XX number of temple tokens that you can only get once per account per day.
I do not see how this fight could be difficult. Even as doing it solo.
Avoid orange circles and keep away from the purple orb. You won’t get downed, get knocked down, get feared, and whatever else. All that leaves left is the chill which can be removed by a simple condition removal that every class has access to.
You can attack the statue from the sides and not have to worry about anything except perhaps the orb. The menders come at the statue far enough a part that you should be able to kill one and take a good chunk out of the statue before the next enters the room. When the statue becomes invulnerable, kill ghosts. I think it takes about seven ghosts but then I wasn’t counting.
For those struggling, unfortunately they don’t release these instance in Easy, Normal, or Hard mode. However, the content is very very reasonable in the amount of damage that you need to do as well as the skill level required.
It’s already there. Use your laurel to trade for t6 material and buy precursor.
It is a bit better this way, since that’ll also stabilize the price of t6 material.
The market might get scary if there is a huge supply of precusor without the ability to stabalize other crafting material.
It will do anything but stabilize the price. There’s barely enough supply for 20 people on the TP right now. When that gets wiped out within minutes of people getting their precursors, what price do you think all of the newly added crafting materials will be put for? Also, 1 laurel gives you one bag which contains only 3 of the T6 fine materials. You need 250 of each.
It wasn’t over correction as the game’s economist said it was on purpose.
Yes it was an over correction, and yes the game economist said the over correction was on purpose. The extreme requirements for that one item has given value to quite a number of items, including karma.
I expect we’ll see more of this thinking even if we don’t like it much, and that’s why we’re seeing more and more account bound crafting lately. That sucks too.
The bolded statement of your post is illogical. I respectfully suggest double checking the definition of over-correction. It’s impossible for a result to be an over-correction if that result was intended.
Actively coordinating and doing events in an efficient manner or just random people showing up to whatever event?
Random people, but i fail to see your point. Do you seriously want to imply that 30 ppl randomly doing events cant pull the same kitten 1 person is doing on a table basis?
In theory 30 ppl doing just 1 single event each 10 minutes would amount to multiple times the event completion of a single player, and trust me: They do not do 1 event.
The argument that 1 person can set off tier 3 is mathematically kittened.
I am not saying that 1 person can do tier 3 by themselves nor am I saying that 2 people can do tier four. I do not know why you keep inserting that in as something I am arguing.
Whether people coordinate or not makes all the difference. People that work together and play efficiently are rewarded more than people that don’t. It makes sense. People need to split up and tackle all of the events simultaneously.
There is nothing “legendary” about an item that takes an insane amount of luck or hundreds of dollars worth of real world money to acquire.
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Players will either flush tons of gold down the mystic toilet gambling for a precursor or keep on converting those gems to gold until they finally have enough to buy one from the trading post. Either way, it’s a win/win for ArenaNet.
People are not buying gems and converting to gold as frequently as you appear to be suggesting. You also completely ignore that people simple play the game and farm the gold.
Yes, you’re right. It is luxury item. It’s also a gold sink and a brilliant way to slowly bleed players of money and time because of the forced scarcity. Why isn’t there a way to craft precursors? Like you said, the system is working as intended.
What else is there to spend gold on this game? Let’s say they implement a system that requires as much time to earn one as it would to farm the gold to buy one. Would you still have a problem?
It wasn’t over correction as the game’s economist said it was on purpose. There was a large amount of supply and it’s used in all three crafts. Any reduction in the price of silk would increase demand for it and cause the price of the other cloth materials to go up as more people will want to craft the damask cloth.
I also was not referring to doing it duo as I stated 20-30 people in that post rather than 2.
Yes, and im telling you that 20-30 people are present at dry top all the time, yet tier 4 is next to never achieved, so i dont know what realm and with what rates the ppl you are referring to are working, but on Desolation 20-30 ppl barely pull Tier 3
Actively coordinating and doing events in an efficient manner or just random people showing up to whatever event?
T4? You have to go duo for that one. One of you take the path: Tendril A, Serene, Inquest mine. The other should go for Tendril B, Inquest boss, Light golem, Ley line.
He is either trolling, bsing or their server instance is bugged (or mine is).
I estimate that there are 20-30 ppl roaming the map at average on my server, but even t3 wont come easily, so the notion that you can solo it is mental.
I have been doing quests based on the quest timers, and there is no way in frikin hell, i could pull off t3 alone or t4 with two people.
I can only repeat myself.
Either there is a bug on either his or my realm, or he is flat out BSing. One way or another, what he is claiming is not true.
I wasn’t referring to just his post but linked where other people started commenting about their experience and how many they needed. There were other threads but I didn’t have time to find and link them.
I also was not referring to doing it duo as I stated 20-30 people in that post rather than 2.
Games evolve or devolve, depending on your perspective, based on the current generation of gamers. Many developers will design content to appeal to the new generation to bring in new players. There’s always going to be a rift between old and new gamers on what they expect.
Yes because the price someone (or a few people) lists for it must be the true price. I can make it say 5000 gold if you’d like. It most likely trades lower than that and isn’t captured by gw2spidy or gw2tp.
This [my reasoning] is one of the reasons that so many people have financial problems in the real world.
made by you two posts ago.
Acually, no. That comment was regarding people failing to see the bigger picture in how things are interconnected. Constantly people suggest drop rate increases, price ceiling, and so on for precursors without even considering the impact this would have in everything else. I then made a reference to people making financial decisions without considering the entire consequences. If you took offense then I apologize but that was not my intent.
Perhaps it was misplaced by what I saw in your post. I could have swore an earlier post of yours had a statement along the lines that those who felt that that 500 gold wasn’t reasonable were those that wanted to profit off precursors or had a stockpile of them. I can’t remember the exact wording. The statement was coming off as our argument was irrelevant because we may or may not have motives to keep prices where they are.
I personally could care less as legendaries matter little to me what I do care if how any changes would impact everything else that I may care about.
Let’s say precursor prices were lowered. The prices of everything else would increase and you would not be by better off. Precursor would be cheaper but everything else would be more expensive. Also, avoid the ad hominem arguments please.
Incorrect analogy. You’re also failing to see the bigger picture on what kind of impact that creating a price ceiling on precursors would have. Especially one at such a low price. This is one of the reasons that so many people have financial problems in the real world.
You really don’t know how easy it is to get 500 gold, do you? If you put a price ceiling on precursors then all you’re going to do is redistribute the cost to the other components. You’re actually putting players in a worst off position as these components are used to craft other items.
