Guild Wars 2

Nothing is stopping you from finding a guild that does pug guild missions and doing them once a week.

OP, since you specifically mentioned dungeons, just slap on zerker gear and run whatever spec you want. Nobody is going to notice/care what traits you have on. I leave AH on when I do dungeons on my guardian because I use it in wvw zergs and am too lazy to respec. At worst, alpha dies 30 seconds slower. Nobody cares.

Luvpie.8350:

Blix.8021:

Deli.1302:

While this is a great idea, T1 servers have the capability to outbid T2 servers when it comes to acquiring guilds, and there’s nothing you can do to stop them.

Also, what oceanic/sea guilds are left to fill T2….. majority of them have been bought up and absorbed into T1 servers. Only way this will work is if the transfers come from T1 and good luck getting that to happen. We’ll have to wait for one of them to implode.

[Meow] needs to be congratulated. So far the only guild brave enough to leave T1 for a T2 server. Others should follow their lead. Don’t be a wuss.

Several tier 1 guilds moved to dragonbrand when it was still tier 2. They eventually got bored and left. People are in tier 1 for a reason.

People that have aspirations or plans to be Top Tier 1 servers shouldn’t move out of Tier 1. It takes massive stacking to be in T1 these days so please don’t chose any of these 4 servers with those intentions. Guilds looking for fights and fighting for underdog servers should chose these servers.

guilds like ns and agg specifically left db because of weeks of blowouts and terrible fights. tier 1 has plenty of fights.

Deli.1302:

While this is a great idea, T1 servers have the capability to outbid T2 servers when it comes to acquiring guilds, and there’s nothing you can do to stop them.

Also, what oceanic/sea guilds are left to fill T2….. majority of them have been bought up and absorbed into T1 servers. Only way this will work is if the transfers come from T1 and good luck getting that to happen. We’ll have to wait for one of them to implode.

[Meow] needs to be congratulated. So far the only guild brave enough to leave T1 for a T2 server. Others should follow their lead. Don’t be a wuss.

Several tier 1 guilds moved to dragonbrand when it was still tier 2. They eventually got bored and left. People are in tier 1 for a reason.

Nanyetah Elohi.4852:

Also ele will be expected to use water/healing in WvW. Ele is a support role in WvW. You are supposed to stick with the cmd or sentry a tower.

You can drop water fields in any spec. That said, any ele expecting to do loads of damage in wvw is either going to be a., disappointed, or b., so squishy that he becomes a liability for his team.

How can their be such huge mobility gaps?

Because this game was designed and balanced around tiny capture point maps where sitting in an even tinier cricle is the main goal.

Lol, they’re not even trying to hide the real reason for leagues

Any tier 1 player will tell you emphatically that the cap is much more than 60. Any commander even in lower tiers can gather a zerg, /supplyinfo and get way more than 60. Stop saying the number 60. It just makes anything else you say look stupid.

Xcom.1926:

Blix.8021:

Xcom.1926:

Xavi.6591:

60 players is not correct. That is way too low.

You think there are more than about 180-200 people per map?

Being as I have personally sat in a pile of 70+ people, yes.

I will tell you one thing for sure, it is not higher than 100 player per world per map. A safe bet is 80 players per world per map. But in my opinion it is 60. Usually the zergs I follow have about 40-50 people on a map.

That’s a cool story about the zergs you personally follow. Has no relevance to anything, but thanks for sharing.

Xcom.1926:

Xavi.6591:

60 players is not correct. That is way too low.

You think there are more than about 180-200 people per map?

Being as I have personally sat in a pile of 70+ people, yes.

Writetyper.1985:

ilr.9675:

Writetyper.1985:

A majority who plays tPvP would prefer they actually kittening balance the game before moving on to other gametypes in my mind.

baaaaaawww…

Balancing our other two modes as much as they have already, just for you guys, wasn’t enough…. No you need even more changes until not even the number crunchers can point to a couple of mathematically superior builds. …Never mind that our 2 modes only have 1 build that’s ever worth running

Can you shut up? Do you honestly think it’s fun that a spirit ranger autoattacking does just as much work as an ele switching attunements, preparing combos, waiting for burst? Loads of players are leaving because of the last patch – in fact the game is practically dead because of the meta – and it’s ok?

Maybe if it completely dies they can stop balancing the game over a game mode that nobody cares about. I think most people would be OK with that.

bob.8632:

Blix.8021:

bob.8632:

Just another proof positive, that if you whine enough ANET will nerf it.

I am loling at the people that spent the money for these as they will likely be useless because of poor testing, and the likely overboard nerf.

They’re only a gold and a half.

Really? They have always been 1.5g? Or were they more before people realized that ANET would have to nerf them due to forum outrage?

http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/44957

Buy listings have been about the same since shortly after they came out

bob.8632:

Just another proof positive, that if you whine enough ANET will nerf it.

I am loling at the people that spent the money for these as they will likely be useless because of poor testing, and the likely overboard nerf.

They’re only a gold and a half.

The metaphor is about a donkey, not a rabbit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrot_and_stick

Player Character.9467:

Thor.1756:

Player Character.9467:

So you LIKE and find it AMAZING to run around in a massive blob of skill lag that can’t do anything but rely on passives and your auto chain going off because the server will do that for you?

No, everyone in t1 also hates this. But honestly, it doesn’t happen that often. And when it does, its our own kitten fault.

The only time it does reliably happen is in three-way fights, almost always inside of Hills, Garry or Bay. If the fight only involves two servers, or if its out in the open without npcs, buildings, and siege, there’s very rarely much lag, even if both servers bring their full map queue.

Sorry but unless there’s more hardware devoted to T1 fights I’m gonna have to call BS on that. 50v50 is already bad lag.

No it isn’t.

Maskaganda.2043:

it’s not an issue in those situations either.

I don’t think it’s very important, but it lets full condition builds get rid of some of their precision from rabid gear and exchange it for some extra health if they want.

Yaro.3251:

Are you against PTV/VPT too?

Power damage scales with precision and crit damage, condition damage scales only with condition duration, which is not an armor stat. So, dire gear allows a person to deal a great deal of damage while still being tanky, whereas soldier gear only allows for a moderate or low amount of damage while being tanky.

It’s really only an issue in duels or very small scale roaming, though, which anet obviously doesn’t care about (see: perplexity runes)

Thor.1756:

Butter.3024:

And just quick question does SoR also buy guild? Or just JQ and BG buy guild

No server buys guilds. Most servers offer what gold they can to transferring guilds to help cover their cost of transferring. The assertion that they pay guilds anything above that cost as a bribe to get them to come over is ludicrous.

lol

Truearrow.3527:

I see problems with T1 and ques in season 1, casuals and semi-casuals may not get to play at all since organized guilds know how to manipulate the map que. No no meta event, no shiny weekly chest, said players will ragequit to lower tiers or servers like FA, Mag and SoS who have some population strength but little in the way of que times or the “winners” of silver. I would like to think that this is how the problem will work itself out but it’s too early to tell.

please stop talking about queues in tier 1 if you aren’t actually in tier 1

last night

I think if you’re in WvW it changes from “Open World Content (Server Name)” to “Open World Content (WvW)”, but I can’t get in to check now.

I find less people in the ruins than I ever found in camps/sentries while roaming.

mrstealth.6701:

Tellerion.8102:

Certain people still seem to feel obligated to point out what other people can and cannot do in WvW. Let me stress once again, that I’ve paid for this game in the same way you have, so am I not allowed to find enjoyment in other aspects of this gametype, that might not necessarily cater towards your vision of what WvW should be like? (As long as it’s within the rules of the game of course)

The most important part is that it’s WvW, not GvG. WvW is in the intended and designed game format, so of course that takes priority. GvG is not “another aspect of this gametype”, it’s a separate player-generated gametype that happens on the same maps.

As you point out, we all paid for the game, so I should not be denied enjoyment from playing wvw because someone else wants to use that map for their own unrelated purpose.

There is a huge difference between saying “you can’t gvg” and “don’t gvg when it will interfere with wvw”
What I am saying is the latter. Have your gvg, but you need to realize that it can, and does in some cases, infringe upon the wvw community.

When was the last time yaks bend had a full queue on every map? Last october? When does gvg ever interfere with you?

Andrew Clear.1750:

Look, this season is gonna happen, with 3 leagues, and they aren’t gonna change it. I prefer how it is, even though no matter what it will be imbalanced. Think of this as a MLB season. You have the haves (a small few) and the have nots.

We know who will win, but kitten it…it is fun trying to upset the apple cart.

if the MLB were like wvw, then the yankees would be allowed to field 100 players

Mooodster.3470:

Blix.8021:

I wonder what anet was high on when they thought they could make this game an esport even a tenth as popular as sc2, lol, or dota 2.

there are many sports not a popular as soccer or football around there world that doesn’t make them any less of a sport…last i checked mlg is sponsoring the next tournament so that says something and if they added a death match type thing i think t/pvp would actually attract more people

Those minor sports have culture and traditions. People would play them without leagues or endorsements. How many people play spvp for fun?

It’s just DB’s turn to crash and burn. It wasn’t the first, and it won’t be the last. It’s what happens when people stack a server but don’t quite make it to tier 1 levels. Remember at the start of the year, DB was a tier 5 server with 0 NA presence, just an asian PvDoor squad.

I wonder what anet was high on when they thought they could make this game an esport even a tenth as popular as sc2, lol, or dota 2.

Johje Holan.4607:

Shiren.9532:

Sharpoon.8197:

I just hope that all the guilds transferring to T1 servers will consider T2 servers instead

The T2 servers are the worst place to be of the 24 servers. You will never fight anything but T2 and T1 servers and you are guaranteed to fight all three T1 servers (currently TC has close to T1 numbers so every week for 7 weeks you will more thank likely be crushed). There is no incentive to transfer to a T2 server unless you like getting your kitten kicked. T1 should be it’s own tier, never has any server below T1 come close to not being a blow out since the new matchmaking system was implemented.

If players want to fight T1 servers, let them transfer to T1 servers. No-one else has the numbers to reasonably compete.

The new league system is better for most servers but it’s a disaster for T2 servers. Population imbalances are a monster of a problem in WvW and nothing has been done to address it. The new league system is going to guarantee is a significant problem beating down on a handful of unlucky servers.

Match variation doesn’t matter anywhere near as much as some semblance of match balance. I know that WvW by design is imbalanced and I know that Devon wants match variety but T2 servers don’t want T1 variety. To make an extreme example, putting the 24th ranked server against the 1st ranked server is technically variety. It’s not a good match.

T1 needs to be locked off in it’s own league.

I don’t understand why someone would want to be on the dominating servers team. I mean its boring as kitten.

If SoS makes it into the Gold League I’m seriously considering transferring there. I play NA timezone and SoS could use some more people at that time. And it sure won’t be boring.

Because when you’re outmanned by that large of a margin, your only option is to try to ninja stuff. If you try to fight you just lose because you have way less people. Eventually the server with more people gets bored, so they just let you take stuff so they can take it back. Repeat for 7 days. Not fun.

stop expecting anet to reply, it’s saturday morning

Fungalfoot.7213:

Kimhyuna.1035:

Ahhhhhh the ‘this happens all the time according to me’ arguement. At the end of the day what you are saying is people cant have fun, especially with a crappy matchup. TIME TO BURN OUT PLAYING FOR PPT GUYS.

You can go have fun in SPvP

lol

It’s pretty hilarious that he pops his anet tag to try to make himself look important. What a loser.

Sharpoon.8197:

I just hope that all the guilds transferring to T1 servers will consider T2 servers instead

So this can happen to them?

http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/map/1019

That’s a hard sell.

Chris.3290:

Blix.8021:

Nozzie.2067:

MrFluffy.9307:

Peetee.9406:

Blow for Dough

Three week epic tank-a-thon between SoS, DB and Mag to determine which server has to suffer in the Gold League.

SBI might actually take the #6 spot just in time for leagues.

While I suspect that SBI may eventually rank higher than Mag & SoS, I doubt that this will happen before Season 1 starts.

DB seem to currently be doing a stellar job of getting themselves in to Silver League.

Dragonbrand has lost every major wvw guild in the past month.

They held their own in a crappy matchup last week with SoR in the mix, but now they can’t handle EhmBay? I call shenanigans.

You can call it whatever you want, but every wvw guild of note on DB has left for one server or another.

Nozzie.2067:

MrFluffy.9307:

Peetee.9406:

Blow for Dough

Three week epic tank-a-thon between SoS, DB and Mag to determine which server has to suffer in the Gold League.

SBI might actually take the #6 spot just in time for leagues.

While I suspect that SBI may eventually rank higher than Mag & SoS, I doubt that this will happen before Season 1 starts.

DB seem to currently be doing a stellar job of getting themselves in to Silver League.

Dragonbrand has lost every major wvw guild in the past month.

Reiko.1560:

DevonCarver.5370:

I’d just like to make a note of one thing that I think people aren’t considering when they transfer to stacked worlds. You will not, repeat will not, be able to receive the reward based on overall world place in the league, unless you achieve the meta achievement for the season. If you aren’t able to get into WvW much, you won’t get the rewards. So it is absolutely taking a risk to transfer to a world that has a large WvW population.

I think you’re giving your players a little too much credit if you think they’re not dumb enough to pile into T1 servers. I’m sure you see it firsthand just by the amount of morons in this forum. It’s only natural though… people will go for what they think is the easiest way to get what they want.

I think you may be the dumb one if you really think people on tier 1 will have any problem getting the achievement.

The queues in tier 1 are grossly exaggerated by people not in tier 1 to make themselves feel better.

meta achievement for the season

I’m pretty sure whatever meta achievement you make it will be easy enough to get within a 7 week period. Tier 1 will get matched up with other tier 1 several times, so tier 1 will get the achievements done + get the rewards. GG.

Tier 1 haters can go back to being angry.

scootshoot.6583:

Only 20 in SM? Something tells me your ISP hit a hiccup……..

Most of my skill lag occurs on reset night when 3 huge zergs are fighting inside the lords room in SM…but that’s expected, haha

If you pay attention to the posts complaining about skill lag, they are almost always from EU. EU servers have problems.

People won’t leave tier 1. I know guilds that have, and they have mostly ended up back in tier 1 because it is the only place to reliably get large fights and balanced matchups. If Anet ruins tier 1, they’ll just quit.

You act like you read the forums, but obviously you don’t, or you would have figured out that most of the complaints come from terribly imbalanced matchups. You’re either oblivious or trying to bait out responses.

Whoever anet outsourced the EU servers to obviously sucks. NA has little to no lag problems except in huge tier 1 fights.

Nuzt.7894:

Working for account progression translates to laziness, again if it should be account bound why do alts not start at level 80 ? And yes getting the ranks and points on all characters is ez mode. You did the work on 1 character you should be rewarded for that 1 character, you did not do the work on 2, 3, 4, 5 ect character so why should they benefit.

Its disgusting how lazy players have become.

Lol, this smells so much like troll.

Analogy fails because tier 1 has more people, they’re more like the 80%.

Zenguy.6421:

Blix.8021:

eh, it’s not hard to get the ~90ish gold you need to pay for the gems to transfer.

And the best place to get that ~90ish gold is?

China.

UrMom.4205:

Manuelito.6081:

junglizm.5843:

Khalic.3561:

You want to have a look at the ranking of all of those matchups?

T1 – 1/3/4
T2 – 6/5/2
T3 – 7/12/11
T4 – 14/9/8
T5 – 10/15/17
T6 – 18/19/13
T7 – 20/22/24
T8 – 16/21/23

This view of the matches is part of the problem.

THERE ARE NO TIERS!

You still have SEA/EU guilds going to top 3 servers thinking they will find good fights consistently. Your GMs need to read up on the system. Once the league starts, the consistency of ranks 1-6 fighting each other week after week is done. You will have 1-2 good matches against other rank 1-3 servers, 1-2 partial blowouts against ranks 4-6 and then you will have 3-4 weeks of guaranteed PvDoor all though Oceanic, SEA and EU time.

Honestly, the chance of rank 1-3 facing each other more than twice is so minuscule, don’t kid yourself by transferring to “Tier 1” thinking your going to have 7 weeks of awesome WvW unless hitting +600 in 1 hour and gate camping the rest of the night is your idea of fun.

I would instead advice to transfer as much as possible to high tiers so that finally this thing can blow-up once and for all and maybe force Anet to re-think seriously the previous six months (!) of work in WvW.
OK I am being half serious here, but honestly…

i’m all for that except for one flaw, anet gets more and more money from all the transfers fueling the fire.

eh, it’s not hard to get the ~90ish gold you need to pay for the gems to transfer.

they aren’t going to give free transfers when people are paying 20 bucks for transfers right now

Samhayn.2385:

Its just really overflow tech and guesting, I don’t see how it would be super hard to program.

But it’s just a bandaid for a system that obviously doesn’t work (server based wvw). an actual solution to population imbalance is to get rid of 27/24 servers, as wvw obviously doesn’t have the numbers to support it.

Samhayn.2385:

I posted this in a different thread but its worth reporting.

add a mechanic that allows people to be mercenaries, if I have a que on my server I can select instead to be a merc, this will then send me to a different match up where a server is out manned, if I have friends who want to join me then can be invited to group and then click on my portrait and hit “join map” much like overflow.

don’t force people to do it, but if you don’t feel like sitting in que its an option to go out and fight and it also helps out the servers that need it most, also never allow it to be your own match up.

really thus is the only way I can think to spread people out with out forcing people to move and it uses tech they already have.

For all the time/work it would take them to code that, they could just change wvw from server based to a system where you pick one of 6 realms for the sole purpose of wvw.

Psy.7386:

How do you know when a set works tho? How do you seriously test it against other players, when you could be easily killed when you get jumped..I’d think it’d be very hard to get a 1v1 in WvWvW

ptv/clerics is cookie cutter bunker d/d ele. Replace it with more damage gear as you get more comfortable with your survivability.

Solstice.1097:

D/D ele has a high skill ceiling as well as a high floor.

its not the easiest class/build to play. you have to constantly chain through 25 skills at all times. not recommended if you dont like pushing a kitten-load of buttons.

Sorry, but d/d ele is incredibly easy and leaves lots of room for error. 25 skills is nothing compared to most mmos.