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Have a league system that actually shows your skill, the pip system shows nothing, only what order you go your wins in. I have won 15/29 matches, but only have 6 pips to show for it. yeah, totally shows my skill…….
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This only works if the randoms listen. If they don’t which happens more often than not, the game is a loss.
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Well, that just burned that way.
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Don’t you find it strange that HoT owners are given harder PVE dailies than non-HoT owners?
What? How? The challenges are easy to get bronze on. The rest are the same as every other map.
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WvW and PvP might be EASY – if there are no opposing players when you walk in and you can accomplish your goal without conflict, that would be easy. But for those who don’t enjoy PvP conflict, even the potential for that to occur makes those activities UNfun. And since a majority of the Daily list are WvW and PvP, that means for those players who simply dislike PvP conflict and want to avoid it, the Dailies are heavily weighted against them. Of the remaining PvE options, if one is a World Boss and you don’t have that kind of time, that further restricts your choices.
Therefore Dailies are weighted against casual players.
That is the funniest thing I’ve read all day.
Interesting reply. If you wrote on a forum that you dislike MMO experiences that are “on rails”, I’m not sure what would be funny about that.
What? What are you even talking about?
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wvw can be casual, pvp can be casual it and they take no effort, you simply do what you enjoy doing. Walking up to a wvw vendor and buying a thingy take no effort, walking up to a vista takes no effort. etc etc
WvW and PvP might be EASY – if there are no opposing players when you walk in and you can accomplish your goal without conflict, that would be easy. But for those who don’t enjoy PvP conflict, even the potential for that to occur makes those activities UNfun. And since a majority of the Daily list are WvW and PvP, that means for those players who simply dislike PvP conflict and want to avoid it, the Dailies are heavily weighted against them. Of the remaining PvE options, if one is a World Boss and you don’t have that kind of time, that further restricts your choices.
Therefore Dailies are weighted against casual players.
That is the funniest thing I’ve read all day. I my self am a casual player, I log in every day, bug I don’t always have time to play. So I grab the log in rewards, but when I have a few hours, the dailies take no time at all.
As for the PvP ones get a friend join an empty game with a friend. Cap all 3 points, kill your friend a few times, normally takes about 5 minutes. For the counter to hit 500, or if you get foefire, cap all 3 point, and kill lord. Match done in about 2-3 minutes. If that’s not casual I don’t know what it.
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Gun Kata! Courtesy of my beloved Equilibrium.
Would be epic, evade while using skills, would be OP, but awesome.
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Is this a ligit thread? I mean one game of PvP can be all it takes some days, other days it’s like what? View a vista, gather, do some events, and a JP. How is that not casual friendly?
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People buying gems is the main income for ANet. At the moment it is worth buying gems to turn to gold. Normally it’s not. If you don’t want to spend your gold on Gems, there is always the option to use irl money, for those who have money.
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I’m in the same boat but in emerald. Good Job ANet.
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I think (s)he means 2K.
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When fighting thief with my warrior. Fire field, headbut, shield smash, pommel smash, F2,F1, stomp.
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This discussion is hilarious
If you don’t want to grind games and lose more than half of them – MAKE A TEAM! It’s seriously not that hard. Just because they let you solo queue doesn’t mean that you should, especially if you have a really whiny personality.
This is very true. I moved from soloQing to duoQing and my winrate went up from 50% to 85%. Having a second, equally skilled player in your team that you can trust to do well does wonders.
Having said that, it might be hard for most ppl to find a suitable partner.
Yeah, I play at random times of the day. It all depends on when I have time to play. So getting a duo together is nearly impossible at best.
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Spend your time worrying about whether YOU enjoy the game. Queue times, balance, availability of specs/modes are all dependent on you enjoying the game.
MMO’s lose players often faster than they gain them. It’s not news and it certainly isn’t telling of a dead game. GW2 is either a game you want to play or not – who gives a kitten if your queue times are fast if you don’t actually enjoy the game?
Me and my buddy been sitting in queues of 15 minutes plus all day long. So much for fast queues at the expense of kittenty matchmaking. Yup in this game you get a elementary school level matchmaking system and still have to wait in queues of 10 plus minutes all day. Meh after my buddy calls it quits I probable will not touch GW2 for another 2 to 3 weeks. Only reason I bother is because it’s B2P and I have HoT and some really nice and expensive skins, but ESO costumes are starting to get to the level of GW2 so pretty soon that will be another reason to scratch off of the list to start up GW2.
But w/e who cares I sure as hell have very very very few cares left for GW2 atm.
When your done can I have your stuff?
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so matchmaking is broken… period….. 2 my team is up I dc’d for a seconds come back and win the game for my team guess what i lose a pip…
so now gw2 you have finally pushed me over the edge on pvp and i am done with it…. i know that you care less because there are thousands of people that play other wise but o well you lost me.
Seeing as no one has asked yet, can I have your stuff?
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Yeah I feel ya, my guild….oh wait, still hundreds of active members there everyday, and all my friends are still there. Nevermind then, I’m still having fun.
I did stop playing WoW forever ago though, I should get back on their forums sometime to let them know how dead their game is and how I am so over it. ????
^this. I too stop playing WoW after cat. I’ve never gone back, I probably never will unless it goes buy to play. But yeah my guild is still very active. I’m having fun. Even in HoT! I never thought that would happen.
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The solution would be ez. You can play league matches only if you have at least a 1000 ranked palyed before. But anet dont give a kitten about the old players they only want to satisfy the wing hungry newbies.
Seeing as you can only play ranked matches during the league, the idea is a non starter. Clearly your not as good as you think you are. You do know there are better players than you out there right? No matter how good you or anyone else thinks they are, there is always someone better. This is something people need to get use to if they are going to play PvP. Sure we have all been on that team where your team mates feel like they are playing PvP for the first time. As long as enough of your team know how to play better than the other team, that’s all that matters.
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Look out game play police.
What happened to play your way?
Sorry someone had to say it.
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Personal skill has nothing to do with it? Are you actually serious? How can personal skill not be involved? If you’re trash, you’re not going to contribute to the team, simple as that.
If you are skilled and the rest of your team is not, you are not going to win. Skill as a team will get you wins, not skill on a personal level. I’ve already explained it, I can’t understand it to you.
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I’ve always wonders what happened to Evenia from GW1. And will Logan ever get Sohothins sister sword.
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We have home instances. I imagine that they would allow us to decorate our home instances before creating a separate player housing system.
^This.
Yes, our player housing is the “home” instance. We can “decorate” it with trees, Nodes, ect.
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Gathering wood for 20 or 30 minutes along with your normal dailies should be able to offset any gold gathering issues.
Truthfully, gold has never been easier to gain than the present.
Indeed, I’ve made 250g in about 2 weeks, and I don’t play all that much, 2-3 hours a day, normally dragon stand.
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If you can’t afford the gold to gems, its time to use real cash. If you can’t/don’t want to to spend real money, then you have to suck it up and accept that this is how it is.
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Be aware that you are not allowed to exchange GW1 items for GW2 items and vice versa.
You are, but if you get conned ANet will do nothing about it.
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Why so you can quite quicker? If you are getting hammered, maybe go back to unranked and get use to the game more. You’ll never get better if you just give up.
What a rude thing to say.
You say rude, I say truthful.
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The tier system is meant to put u where u belong, if ur having close matches and win about 50% of the time thus staying where u are it seems like u reached ur appropriate place
In which theres no point in playing any more, which is counter-intuitive design considering this an MMO, where the whole point is to keep players interested through opportunities for progression.
This isn’t counter-intuitive, to progress you have to progress your skill to be able to climb into the higher skill divisions. It’s of interest to the players that want to be better performing at pvp
Personal skill has nothing to do with how well you do in the league. As you are only 20% of a team. Yes a team. If the other 80% don’t do there job, you, no matter how good you are, can not hold points on your own in a 5 vs 1. You might be able to hold out for a bit, but you know the out come. People can “git gud” all they like. If the other 80% don’t know what they are doing, and 80% of the other team dose. You will lose.
The league is as much about luck as it is skill. The pip system.is not a true reflection of.your skill, losing pips is just a way to slow people down, and to make progression harder. To create a false sense of peoples “skill”. Look at every sport on the planet, no one takes away points for losing. They all work on games played, then win, loss, draw. Better players will always win more games, than bad players, even if the bad play more games. This would show peoples skill more truthfully than the pip system. I’m not saying that people in the high divisions don’t belong there, but this system would show people how good they really are. As the match making could just pit people with the same win rates against each other so the cream would rise to the top.
I’m not saying there isn’t a better way to implement a more reflection of skill, but individual skill does come into play in the current system, the better you become the more you can tilt the odds in your favor, it would have helped more so if they reset the MMR for everyone as well as division placing to better allow people’s skill to place them appropriately, could it be implemented better? Yes. But right now it does show you where your skill level is till the better players filter out of the lower tiers to the tiers they belong
But the match making is making is slow. This time last season I was out of emerald and into sapphire. I’ve won 11 matches, lost 11. But only gained 6 pips dew to how my wins have worked out. How is this a true reflection of my skill. It’s not. I’m sure you have more wins than pips. Unless you are riding a win wave.
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Matchmaking is back to 50/50 odds whether or not this is unintentional, everyone I have talked to in game has said the same thing.
People where saying it’s 50/50 in season2 despite all the evidence (and dev quotes) to the contrary.
Some people are still living in season 1.
I have a perfect 50/50 win loss ratio. That’s what people are talking about when they say 50/50.
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the match making is 50/50, I’ve played 12 games won 6. and that’s a win one lose on merry go round. I’ve had 2 wins in a row. there is no progression. the pip system needs to be scrapped. A points system would be better, have a preseason to see where people end up then have divisions based on points. at the end of every season, the top how ever many of each division move up, and the bottom how ever many move down. sure they’ll need to rework the achievements for it, but that way if your good you’ll move up. if your not, you can have “fun” in your division.
Sounds like someone found where they belong. 50/50 means the system is working as it should.
Sounds like someone has no idea what they are talking about. The game are the same in unranked, sure they are close fun games. But I have never played such a stupid ranked system as this pip system. The league should work like every other league system in the world, games played/win/loss/draw. But no they had to reinvent the wheel…..
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Yeah, have a look at your match history. I thought it happened to me the other day, then I realised I’d clicked unranked.
But with that said, this was a bug that popped up last season, I got hit by it quite a few times, I think 5-6 times in total. ANet can not and will not give you the missing pip(s). So it’s a suck it up and carry on situation unfortunately.
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Why so you can quite quicker? If you are getting hammered, maybe go back to unranked and get use to the game more. You’ll never get better if you just give up.
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Leagues isn’t a reward track so no, progression is not guaranteed.
But it is a reward track, just one you are not guaranteed to progress on.
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the only reason why it was higher than usual is because people wanted to see what the “pros” play this season. viewercount will most likely decline over the next mondays.
Wait, that was considered high? Really? Out of the millions of people who own/play GW2. ANet can only get 2.5k to watch there “pro” players. Mo needs to pull the money and spend it on something else. Clearly marketing have fails if after half a year they can only get a few thousand to watch it. More people turn up to watch the local charity boat race.
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Anet needs to realize that them balancing the game and making matchmaking for the few on the top is more harmful than anything else.
The entire system would probably work well if it had 10 times more players than we have now. But we dont. Setting up teams as “fodder” for “pro” players and stacking players with high MMR vs others with lower MMR has got to be the most sadistic nonsensical idea with as little players as we have now as you can come up with.
Its going to make players leave SPvP and make it even worse than it was before.
I’m playing one ranked game a day. I only need to get out of emerald to finish my back item. If the league stays in it’s current format next season I’ll stay in unranked. No point in playing when the league is not a true reflection of how good you are, just if your lucky enough to win a few games in a row.
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The tier system is meant to put u where u belong, if ur having close matches and win about 50% of the time thus staying where u are it seems like u reached ur appropriate place
In which theres no point in playing any more, which is counter-intuitive design considering this an MMO, where the whole point is to keep players interested through opportunities for progression.
This isn’t counter-intuitive, to progress you have to progress your skill to be able to climb into the higher skill divisions. It’s of interest to the players that want to be better performing at pvp
Personal skill has nothing to do with how well you do in the league. As you are only 20% of a team. Yes a team. If the other 80% don’t do there job, you, no matter how good you are, can not hold points on your own in a 5 vs 1. You might be able to hold out for a bit, but you know the out come. People can “git gud” all they like. If the other 80% don’t know what they are doing, and 80% of the other team dose. You will lose.
The league is as much about luck as it is skill. The pip system.is not a true reflection of.your skill, losing pips is just a way to slow people down, and to make progression harder. To create a false sense of peoples “skill”. Look at every sport on the planet, no one takes away points for losing. They all work on games played, then win, loss, draw. Better players will always win more games, than bad players, even if the bad play more games. This would show peoples skill more truthfully than the pip system. I’m not saying that people in the high divisions don’t belong there, but this system would show people how good they really are. As the match making could just pit people with the same win rates against each other so the cream would rise to the top.
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Yeah, so much hype with condi spam and op elite specs… Sorry, I much more enjoyed old streams and leagues with much more brain and less buttons spamming
Also 2,5k is huge number? O_O Look at number of ppl watching e-sport of other gamesThis game’s e-sport is one huge joke atm, after hot and even before hot ^^
I think the op was being sarcastic, at least I hope he was. With 2.5K viewers, maybe ANet will pull the plug on “ESports”, as with that size of an audience, things must be bad.
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It’s really the main reason why your queues take ages and very few people bother waiting for hours for a single game to actually happen in instance where you have nothing to do.
Yeah they have explained a few times, that queuing out side of HoTM, is a pain. they would have to find a way to take you out of a queue and put you back in while a map is loading so you don’t miss a queue pop and end up with dishonoured, and they have no idea how they would do this. The said they also need people to know that they have different builds and skill set up in PvP. That gear is not really a factor, that all your stats are done for you.so making people go to HoTM will make them notice this as soon as they first go there.
I’m not saying it’s ideal, but it is what it is. I too would like to see things added to HoTM, something like a JP maybe some mini games like the challenges that are in HoT.
Both are bs problems rly.
First of all, if person is queued and it happens during his load time it should automatically accept(since decision to queue was already made) or prolong the wait time if person is still loading(more work for devs but more fair i guess)
Loading gear is not a problem because game already loads mists and then pvp map if you leave during match, so there’s no problem of loaidng gear+build.
seeing as we know nothing about the game code. Nothing is easy or a BS answer.
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I’m not saying it’s ideal, but it is what it is. I too would like to see things added to HoTM, something like a JP maybe some mini games like the challenges that are in HoT.
A mystic toilet.
Yeah, I don’t get why they took it out in the first place.
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human male warrior.
I also dont get why so many people like to play human, I mean you play one in real life for like 20 years or more why would you still wan to play it in a fantasy world.
Because they are what we can relate to the most.
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You are not supposed to solo queue in league, you are meant to make a team, “git gud” and go play in the pro league. Because “Esports”. That’s what the league is really about. It is supposed to be a breeding ground for the “new blood”. Not sure if it’s working as I have no idea if there have been any new teams in the pro league matches, as I don’t watch people playing games, have no interest in watching it. Not that I think Guild wars 2 with it’s AoE’s and red rings of death would make for an enjoyable watch. But that’s just me.
Personally I feel the whole set up of the league is wrong. In any queue other and a full premade 5 man, the system favors luck over skill. You have to be lucky to get other skilled players, or to face people who have no clue about what they are doing.
So far I have played 20 matches, won 10, gained 5 pips. Not a true reflection of my “skill” as I have won double the number of pips I have. So if I have won 10 matches, surly I should have a score of ten not five. I’m sure there are players out there who have won more games than I have, and there pips also do not accurately show there wins.
I know 20 matches is not a big enough sample size to draw any meaningful conclusions from. But I do feel that having to play 40 matches to move 10 places, this is not an accurate representation of “skill”.
I know people will say “but then people could grind out rewards.” I say, if ANet had made a real league system, the skilled players would have more rewards than the unskilled.
if anything your position in the league should be determent by the matches; played, won, and lost. that way people who play fewer games but win more would be higher than someone who has played a boat load of games, but has won less than half. that would then be a league system that runs off skill, more than the pip system dose. But you can not account for personal skill in a team game. That is why the league needs to change.
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It’s really the main reason why your queues take ages and very few people bother waiting for hours for a single game to actually happen in instance where you have nothing to do.
Yeah they have explained a few times, that queuing out side of HoTM, is a pain. they would have to find a way to take you out of a queue and put you back in while a map is loading so you don’t miss a queue pop and end up with dishonoured, and they have no idea how they would do this. The said they also need people to know that they have different builds and skill set up in PvP. That gear is not really a factor, that all your stats are done for you.so making people go to HoTM will make them notice this as soon as they first go there.
I’m not saying it’s ideal, but it is what it is. I too would like to see things added to HoTM, something like a JP maybe some mini games like the challenges that are in HoT.
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What would you like that doesen’t make you stronger but makes the Game more enjoyable. I want
1. unlocking +25% Travel Speed always for outside of Combat without wasting runes, traits or skills for it. It could have an Increased out of combat time untill it restarts again.
2. something that automatically salvages my white,green, blue loot and automatically stores the materials in my bank.
3. unlocking a scroll down menu for armor and weapons and trinkets like in spvp so i don’t have to carry all my sets with me anymore
i would pay a million gems for these things
1) Combat boosters. pick the speed boost, booster. Lasts for an hour.
2)would be useful for some people.
3)buy bigger bags or a permanent bank contract of the TP.
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You don’t need to do the story to get to the Heart of Thorns areas. There is a portal in the southwest corner of the Silverwastes that connects to Verdant Brink – just walk through like any other zone.
But you have to do the first step of the story to activate your “mastery” tracks, unless this has changed. Note, you only have to do this once, then it is unlocked on all of your level 80 characters.
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So far the greatswords feel the most un-legendary to me, although the Longbow are close behind.
A weapon that looks more like a surfboard than a sword seems worthy of ridicule to me.
Really? Because I think the trail effect makes them the most impressive legendary.
Personally I would say the minstrel, it’s just a harp focus with nothing else special.
People like different things, I have to agree though, The GS’s look ugly, along with most of them. The only one I like I have, The Flame seeker prophecies. If I made any of the others I’d skin over them.
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My main runs with “Legend of the Mists” As it is the highest title I have from GW1. I don’t see many people with it, if any, and from Time to time I get whispers asking how to get it.
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This again? How will this make Legendry’s great? All this will do is make them a must have, and lay waste to the sigil market. same for people who want runes swap for legendary armor. all this will do is make them a one time buy and that’s it. Lets not forget, people don’t change stats all that often in PvE, I know people have different builds for WvW, but if you are a hard core WvW player, you already have your gear.
I’m willing to bet that 99% of people with legendary weapons have not changed the stats since they first set them. I’ve never changed the stats on mine, what’s the point? We all know DPS is king. that’s why 99% of players run full zurker in PvE.
The point of the stat swap was so that when you made your legendary way back when, they had a set stat. so if you waned a different set of stats you would have to transmute the legendary skin on to the desired weapon. ANet felt later that you should not have to do this. So they added a stats selection. and if you wanted to pass it around your characters, and wanted different stats for them you could. Once you make a legendary weapons you should never have to make it again. But they need something to keep them from being a must have. and come on, if you can make legendary weapons you have gold to spear. it’s not like sigils cost that much, and you get 2g just for dailies.
If for what ever reason someone is going to change there sigil, they are not planning on changing it on a whim.
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Thanks for the advice all, I got it working again. Got windows to get it working with generic keyboard drivers.
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I am an experienced casual player. 13K APs, 950 WVW rank, Closer to the Stars, done dungeons, raids, crafted ascended gear etc, etc. I’ve read quite a few honest postings about frustrations with HOT, and the trend in responses has been to respond to the OP by saying “learn to play better” or “I did it just fine, there is something the matter with you.”
I personally find HOT uninviting as a solo PVE player. It lacks the difficulty progression structure present in most games. It demands group (zerg) participation for individual rewards. It requires the development of mobility masteries to effectively access map areas efficiently. It loads the player with an ocean of inventory filling currencies or keys. It creates an unprecedented level of grind for goals.
I’ve completed the HOT personal story with a rev, and moved partially through with 4 other characters.
I’ve completed the new specializations with all classes. I find them fun and interesting additions to the game (imo the best part of the expansion) – getting HOT HPs pretty annoying of course. I must admit, I turned in some WVW credits to unlock some HOT HPs.
I was really looking forward to HOT, but am truly ambivalent about the expansion maps at this point – even with the nerfs.
I find myself now checking in, hitting the daily and getting out.
Pretty sure I won’t buy another GW2 expansion – especially if it follows the map design and skill progression structure HOT model. It’s a shame – I am a long time dedicated GW player – sorry to see the franchise pick this path.
My core point is, telling an OP that is frustrated with HOT to “L2P” or “I did it, what is the matter with you?” is missing the mark. There are authentic design departures here, and they are not friendly to the casual player.
HoT is not hard, not at all. If anything core Tyria is too easy. HoT is easy mode if you play a ranged class. My ranger face rolled through HoT in exotic gear with some green trinkets. I only got the HoT pets after I had finished the story. The hero challenges only really need 2 people to do them, I did everyone on AB with 2 others and they where really easy to do with my warrior. Some can be soloed. As long as you have enough room to move and your only fighting the one mob. With my other warrior I soloed the arrow head, king mushroom, chak blitzer. It’s also about what weapons you use also. Alot of fights are easier at range. Like I said if you have space the fights are easy.
Most peoples problems with HoT is they think they can face tank everything like they did in the core game. People are unwilling to change tactics. I used to be quite rigid myself. I wanted to play with the weapons I wanted to play with. Then I realised that they would not always be the best option for some fights. So I changed my ways. I tried different things. And I found things alot easier.
This I feel is the main cause of peoples frustration with HoT. There unwillingness to try a different approach.
Good for you! I on the other hand have adopted the “play it your way” motto long before Arenanet used it as a marketing tool. So, if a game denies me my playstyle with a certain class ( weapon, build etc ) I change the class. If that doesnt work I change the game.
If folks want to play melee and tank (with dodges and blocks of course) they should be able to build for it and play it. I have invested in gear making my War into a 25k HP, 3000 armor monster, so he should be able to fight almost anything with his GS. If not then Arenanet failed. This is how I see things, surely many people have different takes on the matter. Fact is GW2 shows a drop in profit according to NCsoft data. HoT aint so hot after all.
You must have a lot of games you’ve never finished. I too play my way. I don’t use zurker gear on my main warrior. He used to rock knights armor, with zurker trinkets and weapons, after playing HoT, I changed his armor to sinister, same for weapons. Mobility is your friend in HoT. Sure if you want to face tank everything, you can. Just don’t expect to win every battle. Some mobs hit hard, and other hit very hard. The biggest problem with GS is that skill 2 which is the bulk of the dps. That is when most people end up dead.
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assuming you’re solo queuing, you can queue as a group you know
The only difference between solo queuing and being in a group is that in the latter you’re more likely to face a pre-made 5-man, assuming that you don’t know the other players in your group. I’ve had decent luck grouping up with people in the past, but the hard part is finding skilled players to group with in the first place.
It’s kinda like poker, each hand you’re given five random cards, maybe you’re dealt a winning hand, maybe not. If you happen to get a few good cards, you can hold onto those and have the rest filled with randoms. If you go into a hand with 1-2 unknown players, it’s like going in with two face-down cards, you still have no idea whether they would be better or worse than the two randomly dealt to you.
That’s why it’s more beneficial to form a team. In the end ANet want people to form teams “git gud” and play in the pro league. That’s the point of the league. But everyone I know solo or duo queues. Some guildies and myself made a 4 man last season. We won a few. Then ended up having the same guy as the 5th man 5 games running who just Akitten for every match. Didn’t talk just walked around respawn and used skills to he didn’t get kicked.
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When Halloween is on you can finish that quest off, as long as you have done the lions arch parts. I’m sure someone said they finished there’s last year. It’s worth keeping them till then, if you can’t finish it, junk them.
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If you don’t want to grind games and lose more than half of them – MAKE A TEAM! It’s seriously not that hard. Just because they let you solo queue doesn’t mean that you should, especially if you have a really whiny personality.
This game’s e-sport is one huge joke atm, after hot and even before hot ^^