LOL. I loved the “my clones are slow and lazy.” MINE ARE, TOO, MATE.
Yes, you can run full zerk shatter mesmer and solo roam in WvW. You’ll die a bit, but the few fights you can get into will be enjoyable vs running a mind-numbingly boring build like condi PU.
You can do quite a bit of damage with your shatters. Here’s a vid of a guardian taking a decent amount of damage in a few seconds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjkHFgV7858
This is a REALLY bad thief (not his main), but you can see him dying in a few seconds as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bPKzt_l2tQ&list=PLIkObNEwV0uqc_0hkgJdxlIM0UPWVTc_8
Main hand sword is great to use against thieves when you’re running a power build. I’d suggest scepter for condi or hybrid builds. Thieves teleport a lot so you will want to use range one one hand (staff or greatsword) for when they’re far away and sword + ____ for your other weapons when they get close to you.
I’d suggest playing a thief so you know how they play. Once you play all the builds, you will know the window when they will attempt to attack.
As a mesmer, you’re going to have to develop tough skin to fight against thieves. It is easier for them to out play us due to being able to out stealth us. Also, if they are a better player, they’re probably going to beat you most rounds. Deal with it. You have the upper hand in many other matchups. I normally only beat bad thieves or impatient/kitteny/reckless thieves. If a thief is very careful in staying away from my clones or constantly stealthing/shadowrefuging, I will eventually be stolen from/backstabbed, shortbowed enough that my health will eventually go down. Running greatsword/sword+torch does help against them, though. Good luck!
Haven’t done guild missions for months. Please post when you do your guild missions. >.> Kthx. <.<
Man, the RP is strong in this one.
Soooo, OP wants Anet to label the JP as a JP and the arena as a dueling/GvG zone and that’s it?
Seeing as how most people I encounter in the JP are PvE players and uplevels, I don’t know any decent duelist that would feel accomplishment killing them. I’ve seen quite a few OS JP videos of killing said PvE players and uplevels and they’re embarrassing and boring to watch.
The time wasted camping in OS looking to fight people not interested or even that great at this game’s combat system would make me stop playing. Luckily, solo roaming in the four maps and dueling/doing GvG’s in the arena area is active enough and challenging enough. Maybe one day I git gud. Any improvement I have in fighting is from tPvP, dueling in WvW/OS or solo roaming and DEF not from playing against PvE players and uplevels.
No need to breathe any life back into OS…it’s quite active in T2 and even T3. Hell, it can be poppin’ on Thursday nights in T4.
It sounds like you didn’t spend much time in OS before the GvG arena was added. The PvE players weren’t the only people being killed. There were roaming guilds dedicated to maintaining control of the top.
If you like solo/small man roaming, that’s exactly what the puzzle used to provide. The only difference was it had a king of the hill twist, less running around, and more fighting.
I enjoy 1v1 – 20v20.
I like being able to fight / reset as fast as possible. That’s why I don’t stomp people when roaming because they’ll need to run back to me all the way from their spawn. I’d hate to stomp someone near the end of OS JP and have to wait until they can make their way back to me (or vice versa). I let them revive so I can fight them over and over.
Man, the RP is strong in this one.
Soooo, OP wants Anet to label the JP as a JP and the arena as a dueling/GvG zone and that’s it?
Seeing as how most people I encounter in the JP are PvE players and uplevels, I don’t know any decent duelist that would feel accomplishment killing them. I’ve seen quite a few OS JP videos of killing said PvE players and uplevels and they’re embarrassing and boring to watch.
The time wasted camping in OS looking to fight people not interested or even that great at this game’s combat system would make me stop playing. Luckily, solo roaming in the four maps and dueling/doing GvG’s in the arena area is active enough and challenging enough. Maybe one day I git gud. Any improvement I have in fighting is from tPvP, dueling in WvW/OS or solo roaming and DEF not from playing against PvE players and uplevels.
No need to breathe any life back into OS…it’s quite active in T2 and even T3. Hell, it can be poppin’ on Thursday nights in T4.
Mesmer is really fun. Luckily, it’s pretty easy to try out both classes in PvP. \o/
Standard 44006 shatter is pretty fun to duel on. Pretty flexible with some traits, weapons, armor, etc.
I’m going to go out on a limb here and assume my single fight vids with straight forward titles are pretty much what you suggest other people to do. I’ve heard the opposite, but I’m still curious to get everyone’s input.
Hey there. I’m posting to share some nice 1v1’s I’ve had with all you WvW people. Here are some vids featuring DB, FA, YB, NSP, IoJ, SoS, and GoM players.
Although, T2 can get pretty zergy and ganky, there are nice people out there that are willing to 1v1 if you just party them up and/or /bow at them.
Send me a message if any of you wish to duel in WvW or HoTM.
Heyas. Please watch and comment the vids on my YouTube channel. They’re all 11 seconds (lol) to 2 minutes long.
I’m still making mistakes like healing for no reason, using iWave on someone with stability, and so on. I think the more people point things out, the more I’ll be aware of it and probs stop being so janky.
Also, do you all prefer short vids/1 fight vids or longer/6-15 fight vids? I like having short vids because the upload time is so short and it’s easier to comment on a particular fight.
I’ll link one of my recent faves from this weekend: Enjoy!
Lots of stuff…..
Time to relieve some stress, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eyon0gtM5w
wtf @ that vid o__o
It is way too hard to tell exactly which posts are being sarcastic and which aren’t. ~_~
You can stow weapon after the cast bar to cancel the aftercast.
Or you can do that. Completely forgot about that lol. Thanks Jaeker!
lol
Engineer – Easiest. Keep your range, they’re pretty easy to proc halting strike on, and if they are line of sighting you remember you can knock back with GS 5 through line of sight to get more distance when you come around the corner.
I thought this was kind of weird. Do other mesmers think engi is easiest to beat?
Yeh, there are only a few engi players out there I worry about. Then again, I play on point a lot more than I should. >_>;
Thanks for feedback Ross
I will propose to change traits for a PU condi build, so the clones don’t apply condition when killed, mesmer doesn’t cloak and PU give no boons.
Video is named “PU condition” and not “Super extra innovation PU build”.
I suppose if u watch a video about a PU condition build u know how this build works.Best regards
Ooo the sass. I’ve been sassed.
There’s always the very rare possibility one can learn something from watching what most may assume is a mind-numbingly boring kitten kittening video. I may watch the video at some point to see the poor kittens that decided to poke at a condi PU mesmer and lel because I’ve been there before.
Condi mesmer is OP….however, most people know this by now. They will walk away from you, lel. And, yes. We have all had that moment when we KNOW we shouldn’t have touched that dirty condi mesmer, but we did and we went and got ourselves kitten, haha. I started off on the build, it is strong in WvW, but people will not be interested in engaging you. You will have a good amount of survivability, though, if that is what interests you. As for WvW vids, yeh. It is a lot more difficult to find decent duelists whilst roaming, however, it is nice to walk around and see different faces than those you see in PvP dueling servers or tPvP matches. It really helps to begin learning who your “enemies” are. Party them up and chat to see if they know any good duelists and perhaps you all can schedule a fight night. I find Fight Nights like little mini parties. You can practice different builds against decent duelists. PvP dueling arenas are also nice! You will find many thieves and mesmers there, lel. Duel as many thieves as you can AND play a thief. You will learn their cooldowns and how they move around you. Cheers! Don’t give up.
This build is AITE when you’re drunk. Hi Doiid butt, can I please give you my BBDS?
By the by, are you a masochist? Perhaps this is not the forum you were looking for.
How viable is the power shatter in www roaming or spvp? I seem only to be able to kill bear bow ranger with it now a days ( could of crouse be due to lack of skill
. Even with zerker burst dont seem to be high enough to take out other classes.
Heya. Power $hatter is still nice for WvW roaming. Not gunna lie, it is a tough WvW out there! Pew pew rangers and condi thieves around every corner.
I use the standard $hatter build in WvW solo roaming and PvP. Depending on my weapon set I use, I know I’ll be weak against certain classes. For example, if I take GS/Sword + X, I’ll have a better chance against thieves and rangers. Unforch, I’ll be weaker against everything else. If I take double range weapons (GS/Staff), I’ll have a better chance at most classes except pew pew rangers and thieves. Hehe. Not to mention everyone and their mama has ascended gear and lots of condi pressure.
Feel free to check out some of my roaming vids or even stop by my Twitch channel. I only do PvP and WvW solo roaming. There is also a lot of dueling there whether it’s in HoTM or OS. Here’s a sample vid I like just because the music in it (and it’s a pretty recent vid). Clench your buns when I get down to 108 health, lel. Also, I make a decent amt of mistakes and the chatters chime in to give tips or answer mesmer questions I need help with (I’m learning still). Oh, I duel a ton of thieves! It’s my favorite class to duel. Maybe it will help you with your thief experiences. Cheers.
Woops. I’ve been swapping when I get q’d with 3 friggin thieves and 1 mesmer.
Elementalist – Cleric’s, Magi, Celestial
Guardian – Cleric’s, Magi, Soldier, Settler’s
Engineer – Cleric’s
Ranger – Celestial, Settler’s
Necromancer – Celestial, Cleric’s, Settler’s
Thief – None
Warrior – Celestial, Magi, Knight’s, Cleric’s, Settler’s, Soldier’sBe careful. A bunker res thief is some OP BS in 3v3. You might wanna ban soldier’s on thief. I could see a dream comp of Res Thief, DD ele and burster just wiping the floor with everyone.
Mesmer not even listed. ;-; LOL
There is no skill cap for buffing pre-match..You either have an ele or you don’t.
hahahaahhaaha, no skill cap? ele or nothing?
https://www.youtube.com/user/cmcgw2Yea that mesmer swiftness that doesn’t stack with anything else in the game.
Yeh, LOL. It would be so nice if it did.
Learn to play guild wars 2, learn how to use team work and quit the crying
The map encourages only a zergball playstyle , which leads to only full wipes on one side. I dont think such a map , especialy now that even score matters , should be in the COMPETITIVE rotation.
Give it time. I think it’s a map people are not used to yet, so it may be kind of crappy on Day 1. Combine that with the matchmaking people are also complaining about, and, well. I can see how it could possibly be a headache. XD
I’m curious to see how people will play this map in a few weeks.
@Lettuce: Oh, so THIS was what was going on last night. Haha. It was nice dueling you and Eva. Whole night was worth it. Got a highlight video of Gesol screaming like a little girl.
Mm, you really hijacked OP’s thread. No one cares about this Kronos guy. No one cares how few hours you have on thief, guard, whatever. No one cares about how great you are 1v1, really. Saekim can switch to condi or PU to win duels. Team players losing to boring duelists don’t really care or think less of themselves or have to “let it sink in” in regards to their self worth. They’re team players. Also, quit whispering, it’s creepy.
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@OP: Mate, I’d make a different thread, this one is rather…derailed, lel. I’d also make a post like…this:
I’m looking for a highly competitive team.
I want our team to have:
- VoIP (TS3, Skype, Mumble, etc.)
- Mature & experienced players
My gameplay:
- Can play any class/build
- Main: Condi Ranger
- Total hrs: 3,400
- Personal Best Rank: 42 NA SoloQ
- Been in: (LIST TEAM AND GUILD NAMES HERE)
- Able to communicate effectively
- (ADD LINK TO YOUTUBE/TWITCH WITH GAMEPLAY EXAMPLES)
One more tip: It looks bad if you can’t take criticize regarding your post. It needed some work. Good luck!
Oh, I just remembered another thing. If shatter is too squishy for you, try a power PU buid. How have the GvG’s been going. I suggest trying to recruit a thief if you don’t have one.
Am I reading this wrong? Why would we want to disable swapping to another class/character? I really don’t want to be a mesmer on a team with 3 thieves and another mesmer.
+1 to eozturk.7205’s post. My Yak’s Bend mesmer runs strength runes. The might stacks and duration are great. My NSP account has pack runes and they hit hard…not to mention, they are waaayyy cheaper than strength runes.
As you can see in various GvG videos from the “gank” perspective, regardless of the guild, you will see might stacking and stealthing as a group. If you are the only gank, I know them feels! You will need to be extra aware of your positioning and the enemy gank. You also need to keep enemy gank off your Eles and necro teammates.
I duel a ton of thieves and I highly recommend the GS/Sword + torch (or pistol/focus) weapon set. Double range weapon set will get you killed extremely fast, even if you are a kite master.
If you need any help with practice, you and your thief (and d/d ele if you have one) may contact me in game. Good luck! GvG’s are lots of fun.
Double range shatter is nice! Are you trying to win 1v1 duels? Or, are you trying to do 5v5/PvP conquest stuff? Or, are you into GvG’s or roaming around in WvW? A little insight would help me answer your question a bit better.
Heya. Here is the build I use for GvG’s: http://tinyurl.com/kaaly-gvg
You’ll want to drop veil when the driver asks. Then, work with the thief on your team to take out the other mes/thief and ele/necro on other team. Here is some nice GvG mesmer play with comms: http://tinyurl.com/betterhappy
Sooooo, I heard you guys are giving BJ’s. Willing to transfer my SoS mesmer down to you guys so I can get GvG’s in.
Does one mass invisibility automatically make you a PU mesmer because it’s a stealth skill?….
Nope.
Why would you need to read text bubbles in soloq? If it’s yoloq, people will be using team chat vs party chat or say chat. As far as I know, team chat does not have text bubbles, just party/say chat.
Wut. How are asuras part of cancer meta? There is such a thing as standard models.
Don’t mention caed because I find him annoying.
Don’t mention one of the top thief players that helps/answers many thief-y questions AND streams often? I’m going to make an assumption, but I bet he’d try out the trait and show some gameplay for ya if you asked nicely. Most of the top thief streamers might be willing to stream different traits/weaps if you just ask nicely (either in their stream or on here).
For you:
Don’t have so little patience with a personality that can offer so much advice/tips/etc.
Don’t insult someone in your post asking for help. It may turn some people off.
Sure you need to time your stuff, but with lockdown you need to pay twice as much attention because you are timing your own dmg, paying attention to everything they are doing, AND trying to distinguish what are the key abilities to interrupt.
So your base level of attention and awareness has to be higher, and on top of that your reflex level knowledge of other classes has to be pretty complete.
This for me is the real challenge, it’s just that much more time to not only master my own class, but I kind of need to know every other class pretty well in order to lockdown truly well. Or I can go shatter and just yolo burst as warlord said (lol).
All the stuff you said you need to pay attention to w/ lockdown…you STILL should do this as a $hatter mesmer. You still need to know other classes and builds and animations. Just because YOU play shatter sloppily does not mean others do.
@Ross Yea i’m very aware Helseth doesn’t have a very open mind but i’m still going to try very weird and odd builds (like CI mes and venomshare thief) and still do extremely well. I mean, I try to spread the word that certain builds can be really good but in the end Im just one person and usually only my guild listens. Its frustrating to have so many good ideas be ignored x. x
You assume others haven’t tested “weird and odd” builds. We have.
Quite a few of your posts smell of you trying to persuade others to try your build. Just post your build, answer questions and leave it at that. Why call others out like this? Why be frustrated? Play the build you love playing. If it works for your team, fantastic. If people give you c r a p for it, whatevs, ignore em if they’re rude, answer their question(s) if they ask why you run it (or just link your guide and tell em to figure it out on their own).
Don’t think I know what it’s like to have people question my build/trait/utils? I get crap all the time for running Reflect heal. It’s gimmicky, but it IS a surprise people don’t expect during duels. I use it on pew pew rangers and life-blasting necromancers during duels. It works for me. I would not use it during tPvP, though. Too gimmick-y.
I always try to intercept any duels I see, altough I am never lookig for them.
I do that because:
1. If I found you dueling, you are probably dueling on the main road, and not somewhere where you should (eg.: behind the windmill, OS, Skritt, Centaur).
2. I like the rage text after. I am curious what sorted profanity you have to throw at me.
3. If you are allowed to ‘play how you want’, so am I.
Cheers!
The difference, of course, being that you just stated that you do it for the reaction, and you’re intentionally trying to ruin someone’s experience.
I’ve had griefers interrupt duels (people standing watching an enemy and I spar) and my opponent stands by while I stomp their server mate (after they were told it’s a duel and to back off, pls). Pretty amusing to hear my opponent repeat to me what their dead server mate says. “halp plaeses. y u no rez!??!?!”
If I’m on my staff ele then feel free to come help me as I’m being ganked- it’s not built for 1v1.
There’s a staff ele build you can run for duels. It’s not bad! Maybe if you have problems running back to the zerg/group, you can use that build and then swap when you meet up with your group.
Are you guys done playing rock,paper,scissors?
Yes but apparently mesmer is the scissor made of adamantium. Cuts paper and cant be destroyed by rock
….wat.