With no enemy targeted, it goes in a straight line to wherever your camera is pointed. Contrast that with engineer’s similar flamethrower #2 skill which falls into the ground if you have no enemy targeted.
Are you sure you aren’t detonating the orb prematurely?
No bonus chests please. WvW needs better rewards for all players on all servers, not just a select few.
I too like the idea of a reward track like in PvP. I think someone suggested that months ago too.
Heh, well Chairface doesn’t seem to be familiar with the history of server and guild movements that are having a direct impact on decisions guilds make today.
What Lord Kuru said is basically what has already been happening. But it is silly to try to intentionally implode another server by putting them into a T3 match and expect that players on that server are just going to roll over and die.
Are we sure the problem isn’t rampant fundraising and guild buying by certain un-named servers that can’t seem to compete?
So what you’re saying is DB should have stayed in T3 so that SoS guilds would not have had a reason to leave and stack into FA, DB, and YB.
The answer is no because
1) the playerbase is divided on which server to focus
2) the playerbase does not all agree on the concept of balance
everyone hops to T1/T2 not T3.
I truly believe it is also a direct result of the Gold/Silver tournament divisions. No one between T2/3 wants to end up locked into Silver.
And we just got the match that only had 1.18% chance of happening.
Come on after all the underhanded stuff they’ve done (bought guilds, used hackers, 2v1’ed YB for weeks on end ect ect) it’s about time karma caught up with them.
FA always gets Rng trolled going back to preseason 1 and preseason 2. Nothing new here.
No it still doesn’t make sense. If you lock the league but not transfers, people can mass-leave a server that is locked into bottom of Gold before the tournament and the remaining players on that server are kittened.
lock leagues before the announcement so nobody has any way of tanking downward to guarantee an undefeated season.
That’s not a good idea unfortunately because any number of population changes can happen to a server between the time the lock occurs and the time the tournament starts.
Kalid, you could also check out the FA forums at fort-aspenwood.com. My friends in [Echo] Upper Echelon could help you too.
Honestly, from what I have seen anything below T2 is a waste of time even trying to play wvw now.
That’s funny, I find anything above tier 3 to be a waste of time.
Are you EST NA by chance?
The population cap on the servers includes players who don’t play PvE. That section of players will most likely just reselect the current servers they are on, thus filling up the population caps and locking out WvW players.
I too remember those fights to control the top of the JP. But I think you’re trying to point fingers at something that isn’t warranted. Like, the addition of the arena doesn’t explain in itself why no one bothers to be a roaming guild trying to control the JP anymore. I personally think it has a lot to do with rewards as well.
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And before people even start thinking so, I have never gone to the ARENA added in the Obsidian Sanctum to do PvP
If you were explicit about this in your original post, the responses here would not have been what they are.
When you say people are not “real PvPers”, you also are not going to get much of a positive response.
I don’t get it. I don’t see how you can claim duelers are not real PvPers.
If players really wanted T2, they could have just transferred to T2. :p
Lots of RET moved back to FA and now run under the coVn tag. Contact us if you need gold to move back.
http://www.fort-aspenwood.com/index.php?/topic/4573-calling-all-former-faers-home/
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Indeed, part of the reason everyone has a huge stack of Badges of Honor are exactly because the armor and weapons can’t be salvaged so players are getting crafted armor instead.
Maybe Anet should add some sort of salvage/extractor kit that can be purchased with Badges that works only on WvW armor and only is for recovering the rune/sigil.
Want to shake things up? Next WvWvW “test” should be to do match-making by ascending order instead of descending order. Hurr hurr. That should be good for a few laughs.
KN never made it to T1. :-O The HoD bandwagon was set to repeat the KN experience but tournament divisions unfortunately prevented that. Would have been nice to see that play out without the tournament.
This problem would not exist if everyone who has ever transferred up, had transferred down instead.
Servers in lower tiers might have more balanced matches, yes, but the population would still be diffuse to the point where the fights/action is not as busy/large scale as a lot of players seem to like. It’s a devil of a choice.
they really should remove that option in wvw regarding enemy servers, since you cant whisper opposing players normally, and it just allows stalker mode basically
The point though is players want to be able to whisper opposing players for valid reasons as well, such as to tell someone “good fight”. Yes it has a potential for abuse, no more so than some of the toxic comments players make to allies, which is why the block feature exists.
All the servers preceeding in the months before us had guilds siphoned into T2 and fell afterwards – CD, SBI, HoD, etc.
Guilds left CD, SBI, HOD on their own for the most part.
Fort Aspenwood’s community approached IoJ and offered to buy the server because they needed to strengthen their off-hours coverage.
You shouldn’t be asking why don’t servers stop helping to pay for transfers, you should be asking why players and guilds want to move up tier in the first place. If Anet isn’t going to do any sort of server consolidation and cater to the majority of players who like the larger scale combat, the player base will.
Fort Aspenwood approached IoJ because the player attrition is causing more and more extreme mismatches down tiers and a lot more PvDooring off-hours as time goes on. Both servers have a shared history between the communities going back to the first IoJ exodus and continuing through the second and third. A lot of players still playing on FA came from the first exodus, including one of our self-professed “server leaders”, and there are players on IoJ who played at one time on FA. So our communities have a lot of similarities.
We didn’t approach any other server with such an offer. That offer was for IoJ only. Yes, it would have caused possibly even more extreme mismatches down tiers, but we saw it as helping out players on what is considered a sister server. Anet needs to get their kitten together and such a movement of players may have highlighted that need.
Also, you’re forgetting to include the fact that one of those three guilds that left IoJ and came to FA was started on FA and went to IoJ for a time.
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Balance may have happened a lot faster is some people hadn’t started the 2v1 wars.. *cough
What are you going on about? T2 had balance and T3 wasn’t as bad as it is now before players went to DB and increased its size, long before any 2v1 stuff started.
I meant to add, right now this should remain player-driven solutions. T2 and T3 will eventually get balanced out by the players just doing what they already do: quit or transfer. Dev-driven solutions should not try to interfere with this process, like they did with offering free transfers before Season 2. Instead they should be spending resources on solving the issue of player attrition and game mode staleness.
That’s what Anet wants you to think, Player-driven solutions are to transfer servers, that equates to more $$ in Anet’s wallet. If you keep this mentality up, Anet won’t do anything to expanding or bettering the WvW experience for fear of losing out on all that $$. And right now T3 needs to be fixed, the experience is just horrible, even if the players in bottom servers of T3 move, it’ll just keep repeating itself with new servers.
I feel like you didn’t really read my post. If Anet pulls “dev-driven” stuff again like offering free transfers to certain servers like they did in Season 2, the kitten is going to hit the fan. That “fix” did more to destabilize servers than to create balanced matches.
I meant to add, right now this should remain player-driven solutions. T2 and T3 will eventually get balanced out by the players just doing what they already do: quit or transfer. Dev-driven solutions should not try to interfere with this process, like they did with offering free transfers before Season 2. Instead they should be spending resources on solving the issue of player attrition and game mode staleness.
I can’t… I can’t…. I’m laughing too hard.
There’s players who like the smaller scale of T7 and T8 and then there’s players who like the larger scale and coverage of T1 and T2. There’s a lot of fall out due to player attrition occurring between the extremes. IoJ and NSP are not even real T3 servers, for example. They rose in rank due to the attrition around them of players quitting or transfering.
Player-driven solutions have been players either quitting or transferring up: both on their own and with help. That’s just been the general direction, speaking to the idea that a larger amount of the remaining WvW players prefer the larger scale experience than the smaller scale experience. You can’t blame these players for moving up tier no more than you can blame the players who like the smaller scale WvW for not moving.
The player attrition is just made more apparent.
One dev-driven solution that absolutely needs to be considered: stop doing tournaments, especially with that artificial Gold/Silver/Bronze league division. All those T2-sized servers are trying to avoid T3 because no one wants to be stuck on a server steamrolling in Silver.
Fun reset night video of PS in SMC:
The for-fights mentality in NA serverswas built on the foundation of guilds like [BT] Black Talons, born of Fort Aspenwood and returned to Fort Aspenwood.
One of the trends I am seeing is the difference in people deploying stationary scouts and those using moving scouts. The ones using moving scouts seem to have less issue with this change then those using the stationary ones. I think as more people move to mobile scouting the more open field and smaller scale fights are popping up in turn. This is one of the reasons an extended test of any changes makes sense since until players adapt behaviors you do not get a good read on the change itself. Good hunting!
I personally use mobile scouts, will have one party from my guild rotate like in pvp. That has helped us run into an enemy and surprise-wipe them a few times, but honestly it sucks. The maps are too large to be doing rotations. Doing more running than fighting!
IMHO the issue has more to do with commanders. There’s a natural tendency to get focused by two servers when the third server is not attacking the other server. Of course it helps if the other two servers are also attacking each other on their homebls, but if you’re going into a situation where that is not occurring, then you are going to be outnumbered on your homebl to the point where you can’t successfully defend it. Especially with this no-white-swords event. Especially if you have a lower population than the other servers. All you are doing is letting the enemy servers upgrade their stuff and making it more difficult for yourself.
There’s a point at which, if you are playing the PPT game, you should be avoiding getting tied up into fights to defend your stuff and just go cap and backcap objectives. And this is where this game gets boring. It’s extremely boring to do this. This is how Anet is killing this game mode, helped along by players and guilds who 2v1 against the lower population server. It becomes not a fight against players or even servers. It’s a fight against boredom.
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FA reset Queues
http://i.imgur.com/R8Qsot6.jpg
Extremely misleading to post that here and not explain that this is how FA queues on reset in a T3 match when all the PvE players come out of their cave for map completion and easy karma. That happens to any server who ends up in such a match. How long have you been playing this game?
Compare with last week’s match against YB and DB where queues were hardly found; reset night only had FABL and EBG queued for a short time. FA will be back up in a T2 match next week.
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Those were joke names just invented.
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Yea network lag isn’t much of a problem but ever since the Winterday patches something weird has been going on. I get really bad server lag and disconnects, like 25sec of no response from the server all the while 180ms avg ping time.
But yea NA T1-3 servers are nothing like EU T1-3 servers. NA would win just by coverage alone.
This. I have this exact same problem, really weird lag since wintersday patches. IOJ server, Melbourne, Australia. Its driving me nuts.
Post about this in the Tech Support forum because Anet thinks the issue is solely related to some bad routing in EU and not their game. I mean the EU players are indeed experiencing some bad routing but on top of it there’s definitely some game issue related to the latest patches.
Yea network lag isn’t much of a problem but ever since the Winterday patches something weird has been going on. I get really bad server lag and disconnects, like 25sec of no response from the server all the while 180ms avg ping time.
But yea NA T1-3 servers are nothing like EU T1-3 servers. NA would win just by coverage alone.
Hi,
You might also want to advertise your guild on fort-aspenwood.com.
Oh maybe… did you get a message saying something about guild chapters consolidating?
Can you post a screenshot?
I think it is only for the week. I don’t mind moving up and back down once and a while.
It won’t be for a week. DB is getting enough transfers to be a viable T2 server. You might want to do more research, especially since you don’t plan on transferring until over a month from now. A lot can change in a month.
Bump!
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Really depends upon what kind of action you are looking for and which timezone you play in. T2-sized servers get a map or two queued, more on the weekends than weekdays. And yea, T3 is pretty messed up since there’s 4 T2-sized servers and only 2 T3-sized servers.
After all most of those NA players stacked onto DB from elsewhere without any server loyalty, intending to be carried by SEA guilds on DB that are known for ktraining and fairweathering when real competition shows up. Didn’t Season 2 and post-S2 give the correct example? Doesn’t sound stable to me.
No offense but that’s laughable assuming you are on FA since day one.
Many players wants his/her server to rise instead of transferring around. There is nothing wrong in that. Server loyalty isn’t dead (certainly not on my server) contrary to what many believe.
Yes, many players want his/her server to rise instead of transferring around. That doesn’t hold true for DB. A lot of their NA players transferred to DB (replacing guilds that had already left for T2 – you know BMO on YB originally came from EA on DB). If they wanted T2 action, why not just have transferred to a T2 server instead of stacking onto a T3 server?
I say this because I feel that the time on this game mode is running out faster now. There’s not much time remaining to be waiting for Glicko adjustments. It is no accident that the player base in general has been transferring up tiers and causing older lower tier servers like NSP to suddenly rise.
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All I am going to say is that a few days ago, folks on FA were talking about being getting the 2v1 shaft from YB and DB with just a 35 PPT.
Like I said back then, I don’t think its a 2v1, at least not an organized one. I think its more that DB is trying to send a message that they want to be in T2 and stay in T2. They don’t want to be in T3 and think they are getting their message across very clear being a few hundred points behind YB. I applaud those guys for really getting after it this week.
Welcome to T2 DB!
Ya I agree with you. When one server understands the map politics and helps another to focus the third, I call it an “opportunistic 2v1”, which I believe YB to be rather good at. But TBH why don’t DB players who want T2 just transfer to one of the pre-existing T2 servers rather than wait an eternity for glicko to adjust and destroy T3 in the meantime with this rotating nonsense? After all most of those NA players stacked onto DB from elsewhere without any server loyalty, intending to be carried by SEA guilds on DB that are known for ktraining and fairweathering when real competition shows up. Didn’t Season 2 and post-S2 give the correct example? Doesn’t sound stable to me.
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