Guild Wars 2

Lenador.1436:

Chris.3290:

Gellor.6497:

Most of DB will probably be running small groups for fights this week because it will be way more fun

This comment, with the benefit of hindsight from the last 24 hours, makes me get hysterical with laughter. Even TC didn’t zerg as hard as you guys are.

fairweathers r out in force and think he mean when the rest of pug zerg does their thing we will roam with whatever he can work with<.>(least i assume and TC references brings chills down my spine)

You guys had what we are affectionately referring to the “mega-zerg” that goes back and forth between CD BL and SOS BL to completely flip the maps and it was going all day today (not necessarily the same people in it the whole time, but it was probably the same zerg all day). The sad part is that neither CD or SoS can keep enough people on their BL all day long to prevent the flips so it’s frustrating when we aren’t in prime hours.

It was a lot of fun when we did get numbers onto the map though. Great fights

Gellor.6497:

Most of DB will probably be running small groups for fights this week because it will be way more fun

This comment, with the benefit of hindsight from the last 24 hours, makes me get hysterical with laughter. Even TC didn’t zerg as hard as you guys are.

Judging from the score, JQ’s NA is going PvE’ing for the week. Maybe Waha and their SEA will do so as well. Classic tortoise and the hare, Go FA!

Shoutout to GoM on the worst matchup of the week; with Maguuma getting an honorable mention.

CD, in good Friday form as ever.

DB, nice to see you outside your towers and doing a little open-field. The outcome of this match isn’t really in question so I hope you continue to bring the fights into the open so we can get a lot of our newer guys trained up.

I’d suggest the classic 2v1, but CD never goes for it. To add reference for DB, they aren’t as bad as FA but not much better.

Anyhow, let’s all make the best of it.

Cheers!

Fuzzion.2504:

Come to JQ where all your problems are solved in under 3 seconds.

Can someone muzzle him? He’s in every freaking thread! I appreciate that JQ wants to be competitive in T1, but it’s just not going to happen and some assessment of reality.

As for low pop vs high pop, it happens in every tier, and becomes exacerbated in higher tiers when you start figuring in off hours populations. All the rave in T1 matches right now is EST NA vs PST NA and the “unfair” advantages of that.

Unfortunately, it appears that ANet is on Fuzzion’s side and just expects you to get gems to move upwards.
The WvW population is probably the game’s most die-hard fans, but they are the most crap’d upon as well.

SoS in NA rarely has queues outside of Friday night (never very long) and our TS is well-laid out.

Go ahead and PM me here or in-game for details and I can get you in touch with the right people/guilds.

I know I was dismayed during Beta that they were so behind the times. It’s cleared up and the game is still visually pleasing. I just wish that they had the resources at the time to take advantage of the latest technologies.

If we face each other again sometime soon, hopefully it won’t be a week where I spend work week working late and hopefully you guys will push on Saturday so that we can have a great close match.

I actually agree with the OP, as I’m tired of seeing every guild on JQ with it’s own thread here. Why not include your guild’s pitch in the server’s responses?

That would help so if someone is interested in a server, they can also see which guilds are big into WvW and ask them directly about when they play and so on.

I don’t care what tier you are in or what server, ultimately your guild determines more about when and how you play than any other factor.

They originally had planned to to make DX10 available upon release (with the option to use either DX9 or DX10/11). I do know that they had to create a unique game engine (not just license the Unreal Engine 4 or something like that) for the game and they basically ran out of time to include that functionality.
It’s a shame that they apparently don’t have the go ahead from NCSoft to continue work on it. Not only would it improve this game, but they could use the engine to power other NCSoft titles and help the parent company start making money again.

Just as long as we weren’t forced into the T1 rat race. We’ll settle for a nice even matchup with FA and DB.

I’d include TC in that, but we’d run the risk of re-entering the T1 arms race and that’s so 2012 as far as we are concerned LOL.

I can suggest some guilds depending on when you play, if you choose SoS.
In NA:
SoV and Fang are technically PvX, but always have people in WvW. BANE has proven to be enthusiastic WvWrs. There are some small ops groups (HLX, ENVY, FIRE) that are great and fun to work with. GoD and GotM also do a lot of WvW.

If you are in the Oceanic/SEA timeslots you probably want to talk to TS or AoA

AGG hasn’t engaged the broader community, preferring to do their own thing (but they are awesome in open-field fights).
I don’t know about vH yet, they’ll be joining us on Thursday.

Apologies to any other guilds I might have forgotten.

A low AoE cap (only 5 people, really?) and the rally mechanic makes blobbing important, but when you can attack 4 targets at once with 4 organized groups of 20, then you have something going there.

However, people are drawn like fireflies to the big fights, almost always to their own detriment.

Truearrow.3527:

Our oceanic commander is back from some personal business today, that tends to bring our oceanics and insomniac NA out of the woodwork, we’re just getting warmed up, let the culling begin. Make sure you all have plenty of repair money because Bony and Co are coming today. =)

I was referring to your midday presence, you probably are not running too many Oceanics at noon PST.

No I’ve seen this in your previous matches and wondered if you had a token EU presence or some guild full of unemployed people.

Chewy.9263:

If a lag fest like this is what T1 is all about, I’d rather fall back down to T2. FA and SoS brought much better fights than SoR does. Still love me some BG.

You miss us, that’s so sweet. We even have a chair ready for you when you decide to come visit again!

Also…holy crap, is Maguuma unofficially the under 18 server or something? I knew you guys had respectable daytime numbers but that’s impressive no matter how you look at it.

I can’t even get angry I’m so impressed.

YB, that was an awesome attempt at SoS garrison. Had that been two Omegas instead of one it might have worked (also 20 minutes earlier and you would have gotten it for a song and a dance.)

Maguuma brought a little more fight yesterday as well, I was very happy to see that. Being the closest match we can have I was a little upset (trolled a little, sorry) to see Saturday be one-sided but yesterday you showed us that the match isn’t over yet.
I definitely have to respect PYRO and kitten ; it’s been a long time since someone can mix it up with us when there’s equal numbers (FA and TC have trouble managing that, and DB is in hiding so who knows what they can do).

You mean DB has been leaning on it’s SEA presence!!??

I don’t know if this is a troll post or not but welcome to the worst kept secret in NA WvW.

Frosch.7809:

Chris.3290:

Frosch.7809:

Just had a funny moment in our BL when a Mag and someone from SoS attacked me together. Before that they had both attacked some of our guards together. Smells like cooperation…

You ever think it might be because we consider you the greater threat?

I don’t want to dis too much on Yak’s because they are the underdogs here, but they are squishy as hell and rarely engage unless they have better numbers

Outside of a few ungrouped people who seemed lost, most Maguumans are substantially harder to kill than most we have faced.
Too bad they’ve already quit the match.

I am kinda lost concerning your comment, how can you consider me, a squishy Yak, to be the greater threat when Mags are harder to kill? I play during NA nighttime, and usually in our BL, where we mostly face superior numbers. If both SoS and Mag are so much the better players then why did those two team up to fight me instead of going for the greater challenge of fighting each other?

I wouldn’t complain about Yaks “only” engaging when they have superior numbers then – in our BL this is rarely the case anyway, at least when i am playing. And by the way, those two did not manage to kill me.

And no, i do not think Mag and SoS are cooperating, although it would not surprise me if they teamed up against the weakest server. My post was meant to show that Yaks is not teaming up with anyone, despite accusations stating otherwise.

I don’t know why in the faintest I thought you were a Maguuma and now that I read this I realize I stayed up too late Friday.
Sorry, I stayed up late expecting them to push back.

Also, the YB I’ve seen do have a lack of aggressive tendencies. I think you guys just need to learn to open-field a bit (win or lose, it makes you better) and forget the repair costs and you’ll do just fine.
I do want to shout out to the PRO guild on YB for being no-quit though. Way to hang in there.

saiyr.3071:

So we just now took highest PPT by quitting the match? Okay. Three of our guilds’ commanders are gone this weekend, two of them have been gone for awhile already. I’m sorry if we can’t play all weekend like the mature adult servers!!

Sorry, must have blinked.

I don’t know how things roll on Maguuma but on SoS most guilds have a spare commander or two for when work and/or vacations happen. Sure we’d have a problem if some of our better commanders took off, but it’s happened before and we didn’t fold like fresh linen.

I know an ele who had 8000 kills (low by EU standards, but high by NA standards) by the end of October. Admittedly he was playing so much he was burnt out quickly (on and off), but the feat in itself was impressive.

But that answers what is the most “effective” WvW class. There is no “best” class, only what is best for you. I’ve seen rangers and engineers (often derided as not being good for PvP) who managed to find the right occasions to be very effective.
You just have to build for WvW and find a guild that matches your playstyle and be willing to tweak yours to match theirs.

Frosch.7809:

Just had a funny moment in our BL when a Mag and someone from SoS attacked me together. Before that they had both attacked some of our guards together. Smells like cooperation…

You ever think it might be because we consider you the greater threat?

I don’t want to dis too much on Yak’s because they are the underdogs here, but they are squishy as hell and rarely engage unless they have better numbers

Outside of a few ungrouped people who seemed lost, most Maguumans are substantially harder to kill than most we have faced.
Too bad they’ve already quit the match.

Already three pages?

TC, glad to see you doing relatively well already and hopefully you get to show everyone how good you really are.

problematic.9623:

dwahvel.7356:

Chris.3290:

This seems to be a fanboy page for EU guilds. The only EU guilds I’ve ever seen in numbers were VotF and RG.

I learned quite a bit from watching VotF when they were with us on SoS, but in retrospect I wish they had had the time to share and teach more (they had to stay up late to play with us as it was).

However, RG wins the “shock value” award for every time they’ve visited NA T1. They proved the value of having even a moderate sized group (15 or so) that kept great group discipline and played their roles straight. They blew everyone’s minds and probably influenced NA meta more than any single group has.

RG influenced the NA meta? rofl. RG was def better at gvg then NA guilds. Open field I didn’t find anything amazing about them.

I don’t have a problem with what “Chris,” said. He was suggesting RG influenced NA gameplay. They did. Everyone in tier 1 stopped and adjusted…or died a lot. I guess you have a problem with use of the word “meta” meaning overall map strategy? Ya, we didn’t see anything new there, but [RG] field combat expertise was the “new” thing. NA Guilds adjusted/adapted to it at different rates and some never changed.

Quotes around my name? If you know who I am you know I’m less of an kitten in game than I am here, but probably everyone is.

When I say meta, I mean open field combat. There really isn’t much meta to movements and siege placement.

I apparently upset dwahvel, but I can only speak to what happened when they were in NA T1, I don’t know how they role the rest of the time.

Their first appearance changed the way people did open field in NA as open field is typically not as common in NA. So yeah, they showed everyone a lot of things.

Fuzzion.2504:

Come to JQ where we will take care of all your night tower cap problems.

Did i mention we having an awesome t1 to t2 fight with constant action, guaranteed.

JQ posts are like the two guys who appear on your shoulders in bad sitcoms and cartoons from the 40’s. One angel, on devil.

Devil JQ: “Just transfer to fix your problems”

Angel JQ: Suggests servers other than their own at times.

My guild alone has about 9 commanders and only 2-3 of us ever tag up.
Good commanders have to be vocal, have to give criticism without bias or emotion (or singling anyone out) while encouraging the group as a whole.

When you are commanding and the PuGs dont’ want to listen, tag down and walk away. It’s not worth disabling your keyboard from mashing out commands in all caps. Just say “alright, you are on your own” and walk away.

Chorazin.4107:

Calae.1738:

Rally is convenient.

Imagine your dryer folding your clothes for you after it’s done drying. Removing that kind of convenience will not be met without complaints. The casuals love this feature.

Im a casual(only really play WvW small man on weekends), and i think it’s a way too forgiving mechanic that needs to be addressed. I should put some fraps together of our small man vs mini zergs for a visual reference.

When do you guys play, I honestly don’t recognize your tag (though I bet I’ll see it every 2 minutes from now on, knowing how that kinda thing goes)?

Anyhow, the rally on kill needs to be addressed because it favors numbers over skill. Just cap the number of people that can rally off of it because I’m tired of seeing an entire guild rally on a minotaur outside of Bay.

Achilles.2197:

I wish SoS could get it’s NA presence boosted by some guilds transferring in. Balancing out it’s amazing Oceanic coverage would make SoS a strong T2/3 server.

We are a strong T3 server LOL, but it would be nice if we could hold our own against T2.

nothing.7941:

OMG, the BG-SoR-DB match thread is 28 pages!!

25 out of 28 are devoted to SoR and BG arguing who has the larger East Coast vs. West Coast advantage.
2 of the remaining 3 are JQ people who can’t quit the drama.

The last 1 page is people wondering why anyone would want to take part is such massive, blob-driven chest-pounding.

Things have been said here that not everyone can be proud of, but I have to say that BP and EB have been thousands of times classier than the mess going on in that thread.

I think we can all agree that if Mag were to take the place of DB, that clicking on that thread would have an effect not unlike looking upon the Ark of the Covenant at the end of Raiders.

PS: I realize that might have been unfair comparison. BP and EB folks have been classy, period.

The point I’m getting at, is that the scores are truly reflecting the real state of things. I’m not so much expressing an opinion (though there is one here), as pointing that everyone is hitting their sweet spots. KN and EB might drop 1-2 spots further, but they are real close to where they are going to land.
16-24 have pulled in tight, where they probably should though I think GoM would like a shot at climbing up higher. Something more likely if RNG were turned off or drastically reduced.

Look at 1-9 though, and you see a perfect representation of how things play out. With the exception of the distance between FA and SoS/Mag; and TC and JQ (JQ has that T1 polish + they padded their victory at the end of the week) you can almost predict the final scores of any 1-9 matchups (not counting the unlikelihood of a perfect 2v1 or 2 of the servers ignoring a 3rd due to some rivalry).

In short, the RNG system might provide some different matchups, but an avg of 2 out of 5 matchups in any given week will result in curbstomp battles.

I’m not saying in particular that I want another week of TC (or worse) camping out in our garrison for 5 days straight; but I think we need a week where we don’t face servers 2 tiers lower than us and get a week straight of “you only win because of your Oceanics” screamed all over the forums.

The other thread is all negative, I’m just thinking that we’ve reached a new level of stagnation.

My buddy Rooster mentioned that SoS will beat most below us, but that doesn’t excuse having us face T5 opponents this week.

I don’t see how the current range of the RNG number is benefiting anyone in NA anymore. At this point its at risk of further corrupting NA WvW given the huge influx of servers leaving lower tiered servers and moving to T1 and T2.

I’m going back to my original theory that this will be an excuse to merge a few servers and use the computing space to clear up skill lag.

So many low tier server guilds are moving to T1 to get out of RNG curbstomps, only to fall apart and be absorbed. How many guilds from T4 or lower servers have moved to the top 5 servers (no one is going to FA) and have improved their lot? Some of the folks who moved to TC at the start of RNG have done well, but not many or any since.

Get recuirtered today, so you can tell us all what recuirting is and if it hurts. (seriously, fix that)

You can find server Teamspeak and great mix of size in guilds in any T4 and higher server.

If you are deadset on T2, FA could use you the most. TC is the most likely to slip into T1 if something changes while DB is growing a lot (no one can answer how many more they need before they actually venture out of their towers in NA primetime though)

We have great opportunities for any WvW group(s) that play in the NA timezone. Given that we have a more modest NA group than most of our competitors, a WvW interested group can join up and really prove to themselves and others how good they really can be.

We face a wide range of opponents from T5 to T1 and you would get to see WvW played at every level of skill and population. If you and your guild are ready to take on a challenge, see one of our community reps!

For the record, AGG does help our PPT because they are keeping enemies on whatever map they enter.

I would expect TSYM, more than anyone not on SoS atm, should understand how few NA we had left. We had maybe, at the most, 4-5 WvW guilds left in NA and only Fang could put any significant numbers out.

Even with the great folks from the former ORL and now AGG, we still are anemic in our bracket and if anyone is looking for a great opportunity for NA GvBL (guild versus Borderland) we still have that kind of opportunity available.

Even though DB really needs more people to balance against TC; I’m sorry to see SBI losing folks. That server really needs some lucky breaks.

Another reason for the more aggressive posture is that even with the addition of AC Mastery, the best way to fend off an attack remains counter-attack on foot.
Manned Arrow carts will drive off 5-10 random yayhoo’s and a single AC will prevent the “ninja cap” by 4 people and a ram.

However, the typical zerg cap (seen most often in T2-T4) is the multiple cata attack (now deadlier) and unless you have someone who’s quick on the counter-treb (and if anyone has invested in building one) the only way to get a large zerg away from your tower is the smash them on foot.

Given the human nature aspect of siege attacks where everyone gets myopic, attacking a besieging force from the blind-side seems to always work well.

I can’t speak to EU other than that it looks like tiers don’t matter as much as the rankings are very close.

In NA, tiers are all about coverage and how many people you have on during which hours.
The large difference even within the tiers themselves can be crushing. #1 BG is stomping #2 SoR this week while #3 JQ (which is supposedly near collapse if you judge by the complaining) still beat #4 TC
#4 TC is much more powerful than #5 DB that DB is openly complaining about facing them despite gaining transfers all the time, and #6 FA hasn’t won a match since they faced #8 and another lower server.

The pattern continues with the only aberration being #7 (SoS, the unofficial Oceanic Server that has modest NA). Strong NA followed by 1-2 guilds in off hours for T3, while T4 is marked by massive NA with almost no off hours.
There is reportedly some variation near the bottom and maybe a stray off hours guild or two (GoM supposedly has this) that skews ratings.

TL;DR With the exception of a newly created gray area in the T4-T5 shuffle, the NA rankings are solid indicators of where they stand.

Any of the servers T4 and above (though I think CD’s community is questionable and EB is in chaos) have committed WvW guilds and good communities.

I notice that SoR and TC are not on your list, perhaps it will help people find a good fit if you explain why not (if it’s because you were there, explain why you left).

SniffyCube.6107:

Rl stuff kept me out of the game this week but last week was one of the best wvw match ups I have been a part of. Your server lacked the coverage ours did, but what you lacked in coverage you made up with in tenacity. We had some of your bls queued and you’d defend every tower like it was the last tower you guys owned (bp as well although we did not fight you as often) and that was awesome. I’ll have to say I regret not being on your side when we decided to move and instead having to fight you guys.

Also agg nice footage as usual.

Anyway, gonna stop stalking your thread gl guys!

Did I miss something and you guys transferred, or did you vacation to one of the servers this week?

Fuzzion.2504:

I hope next week match up (yes Anet, i know you read our forums and yes i know the RNG is actually manually determined) is

JQ vs TC vs SoR

That would be awesome

You’d throw FA and DB to BG?

Laylyn.6018:

I’d respectfully remind you that DB was winning friday night. =)

BG was much smaller than SBI and JQ in those days too. I’d say the real numbers were SBI 1st (post crowning), JQ (2nd), and the rest middling. We hit a competitive cycle that went froze in place and then evolved into the current game set.

It’s more chicken and the egg with the way glicko was. Where the game will be in six months with a rotation would be a guess, but I think it would evolve more evenly since it would be much harder to jump to an implied winning server.

Last week, NA bracket players were choosing between JQ, BG and SoR. If we evolved like the EU bracket, there would be nine choices. That would change things as the months roll on.

/salute

That’s funny, because I was thinking the opposite. SoS at it’s peak did not have nearly the coverage that BG and SoR have today.

Of course it’s the nature of the coverage that has changed things a lot. Back in October-November it was not unusual for NA folks to put in massive hours, creating seamless transitions between timezones and coverage.

Most of the folks in T1 have been there a long time (You can count the number of SoR and BG since launch folks on one hand.) and are probably experiencing a lot of fatigue and losing interest.

I stayed on SoS after the collapse and we have a much more casual attitude towards WvW now. Some of that is because we have a truckload of T1 veterans that can always untie the other hand behind their back on anyone T3 and below; but it’s a relief to know that you don’t have to have your guild on every night, guarding a tower and a camp for 5 hours straight.

As I said earlier, the T1 culture is unique and probably only DB and TC understand it only a little out of the rest of the servers (and those that didn’t leave collapsing servers).

Laylyn.6018:

I agree with most of your points that has been the current situation. Though, taking what you said a step further, there was a time that IOJ was part of your 5 examples for 6 total when we were first attempting a player driven balance. (SoS, JQ, SBI, SoR, BG, IOJ)

Also, right before your collapse example, Titan Alliance had volunteers try to keep HoD competitive and AA’s FOE had originally tried to rally ET . That would have been a top 8 if things had gone better.

What killed the player driven effort back then was the extremely slow pace of the Glicko system. Now, that isn’t an issue.

Even in your worst case example, two servers could only dominate so much in a 3 match system (i.e. 3 sets of 3v3 wvw) which is what is going on in EU right now. In such a case, at least 1/3rd of the match ups would be super sized server free at all times.

Every match up would still technically be T1. I also think the hyperactive need to stay super sized would relax.

A little spread should naturally occur in those conditions and grow the pvp base up for all servers involved. That could be a good thing. Though there would be growing pains, for the first few matches.

I also think the whole thing could happen naturally over the course of a few months, due to personality differences, guilds looking for a change, returning guilds, or even guilds getting involved with wvw for the first time. No volunteers needed this go round.

That’s my long term hope anyway. We’ll see if I eat crow on that one again.

My 2 cents. Your mileage may vary.

/salute

Well, IoJ was never on the same level as SBI and JQ. Their loss in T1 followed by the the SoS-IoJ-HoD match that saw them destroyed; was the end of them so we never ended up with a top 6 (there were always “contenders” but most never materialized).

I might be misunderstanding but you are suggesting that there may be an effect in NA like they saw in EU where VS was brought closer to the rest of the pack. However, that hasn’t happened in NA (though it is better than it was before 2 weeks ago when we were moving to having 2 mega-tiers, facilitated by T4-T5 rolling high while T2-T3 have rolled low).

However, what I see happening is BG and SoR pulling further away. BG is now over 2200. That’s almost 300 pts away from JQ.

I don’t see them coming down naturally at this point as VS would win in coverage but only performed middling during weekends, while recouping during weeks. BG and SoR dominate weekends and the weeks.

Laylyn.6018:

I’ll agree with this. One of the fun things to track is how much the EU bracket has changed already.

VS was EU’s number one server for most weeks since launch. http://mos.millenium.org/servers/history/16 In week 18, VS was rocking a 2250 rating and they are now rocking a 1983 rating while winning all but two matches. There are also effectively 10 servers (AR week 28) in that top bracket now, which one could argue is the new EU Tier One.

Rotations like this were one of the cornerstones we hoped for back when the player base was striving for 6-9 competitive servers. They should evolve in that direction in the NA bracket with time.

Glicko was responsible for many of the headaches people when through in the past. This rotation will be painful in the short run, but once it gets going NA side, it should really help a lot of servers.

My 2 cents. Your mileage may vary.

/salute

Laylyn, with all respect (because I do have it for you); you’ve been lobbying for a 6-9 server balanced NA since launch and we’re farther away from it since any point since ET and HoD imploded.

The closest we came was before WM left SBI and we had 5 T1 quality servers. (SoS, JQ, SBI, SoR, BG) and TC was beginning to grow but was thrown off it’s ascent by the before mentioned WM move and NNK going to DB.

Now we have only 2 T1 servers, 2 T1.5 servers, 2 T2 servers, 2 T3 servers, 1 T 3.5…and about 5 T4 (little murky there).

The moment that WvW broke, was the end of free transfers and a last minute flock to JQ.

Since then, Tier 1 has become a giant hamburger grinder for WvW focused players. Players burn out, take breaks, and there is a need for new players that typically come from lower server guilds that come with T1 glory in mind, but they end up dissolving and merging with larger known guilds.

BG has collected a monstrous 24/7 machine that continues to grow, while SoR has been rock-solid stable for a while now. I don’t see the 2 server dominance ending anytime soon unless ANet were to take direct action (lower BL caps and creating heinously long queues)

KStudios.2850:

Chris.3290:

Ok, I have to give credit to Aeros and Jinks for their work trolling.

Usually in a match where we outgun the enemy, we take it kinda easy. SoS has/had nothing to prove in this match.

Yet by insulting and goading our Oceanic folks, you guaranteed they’d come out every night and cap entire maps. Ensuring we’d increase our score and make the chance of facing us again even less likely; while ensuring our likelihood of getting a crap matchup against us even more likely.

Well played, way to win by losing.

Deceptively venomous post… I sad noaw. :<

Venomous? I’ve just noticed that the more posters complain about our Oceanics population, the more engaged they (SoS nighttime) become. Despite this obvious link, folks kept pushing.
Either those posters somehow wish ill-will on the folks on their server(s) who stay up late, or think that SoS increasing it’s score is a good thing.

EB was noticeably quiet when we had our meeting with TC, and this is the first time with BP; so I don’t know if people regularly try to goad enemies to attack their weakspots or if they honestly believe the tripe they have been saying.

Either way, they dun goofed.

Or at least decrease the range of probability.

Reasons:
in EU, they have managed to get all the servers (except the bottom two) all within 800 pts of each other. In the current matchup probability range 1-11 can face each other while 11-23 can face each other.
Going back to tiered matches in EU will not result in any stagnation for some time. Only VS, FoW, and Vabbi are unlikely to see any change.

in NA, we have finally equilibrium as AR hakitten T8 (ET deserves the chance to climb out of last) while EB and KN are likely to settle in T5 (KN is already there and EB will be there at the end of next week unless they roll very low).

T3 is pretty stable, with Mag and SoS trading 7th every couple of weeks and CD coming in as would be expected of a server that has added some people.

FA is still too large to fall to T3, while TC failed to shame JQ into an implosion.

Unless the devs plan on reducing cap map populations, NA isn’t going to see anymore changes and the matches can be decided by rankings now. 4th will always beat 5th, 5th will beat 6th, and so on. Only two aberrations remain, unless another large group from a mid-tier server decides to go to DB or BG to never be heard from again.

Ok, I have to give credit to Aeros and Jinks for their work trolling.

Usually in a match where we outgun the enemy, we take it kinda easy. SoS has/had nothing to prove in this match.

Yet by insulting and goading our Oceanic folks, you guaranteed they’d come out every night and cap entire maps. Ensuring we’d increase our score and make the chance of facing us again even less likely; while ensuring our likelihood of getting a crap matchup against us even more likely.

Well played, way to win by losing.