Guild Wars 2

Just make it expensive as heck. Make it cost 10G to respec.

No one is going to do “situational” respeccing in that case.

There should be some work done on this because as server’s and guilds change in population, rank, and focus; the players will need to change how they play.

For instance, a medium rank server loses some guilds. Their position goes from an equilibrium to being on the defensive a lot more. Players who were probably speccing for more offensive siege traits will suddenly find that they need cannon and AC mastery a lot more. Now that they are outmanned all the time, they cannot earn WXP fast enough to trait into these and leaves them, their guild(s), and their server in an uncomfortable position.

Not to mention that if a new mastery is added that is valuable that people literally get the rug pulled out from underneath.

styx.7294:

Prosecutor.1457:

There are Anet Devs in SBI, I’m sure they are taking notice in the current matchup and how strong SBI has become. Don’t be surprised if SBI ended up in T3 on Friday reset.

… what? You can’t seriously believe that. Do you even play this game?

This week #14 KN is facing #6 Dragonbrand.

I think SBI could provide a good fight in T3 but I think they are entering the range of possible matches that will result in painful matches as well.

How can anyone argue with what Aneu said?

He put what we are all feeling into words much better than anyone else has to date.

Winning servers, neither need nor want the orbs to return because it adds an asterisk to any battles and fights they win. (ie "Choo beat SF in open field BUT they had the BL buffs")

For smaller servers, it’s just another curbstomp.

Does ArenaNet feel that servers with greater coverage need a helping hand?

I would even go as far as to conjecture that the goal of this was to stack a few server and get all the serious WvW’rs onto fewer servers with more even numbers; but then they keep turning around and raising population caps.

Either way, Aneu is right and we need to not descend into finger pointing and generalizations. This change is not wanted or needed by anyone.

This will help in matches where the coverage differences are slight. You have 30 on the map and they have 40 and another has 35…Bloodlust will open up the number of targets and will divide the attention of all three servers away from hard target objectives.

Which would be a great idea if we had static matches, but the same folks who are bringing us this brought us RNG and Leagues. So this has just made one-sided fights even more ridiculous.

I agree with an above poster. Make Bloodlust increase PPT by gain by 3% per Bloodlust obtained. With potentially even more ppt than SMC on the line, you can bet people will make them a priority.

The best part is that it makes them a must have for both the low scoring server (to deny it to the higher) and the highest scoring one.

This is great that it’s smaller in scale. They launch this, start leagues at the start of October then do Halloween.

They have all the way until November for the next 100% unique update. With the combined might of 4 teams that can pump out new small zones with new content every 2 weeks, give them 2 months….

I would not think it impossible we’ll finally get a new permanent zone like Southsun. Perhaps the Crystal Desert or parts of the Far Shiverpeaks might open up?

I for one have been hoping they’d use the holiday season to prepare some more major and permanent updates.

JudgeD.5673:

SykkoB.9465:

Stealth.8150:

JudgeD.5673:

Good fights with SoS at Durios and Mendons tonight, and of course, the crazy fight with TW inside SMC.
Also, earlier in SoS BL, this was taken. Can anyone on SoR tell me how many? I estimated 50ish

let me take one out of my sor qoute book

we don’t blob and we don’t have coverage

your trying way to hard man

For the record, I’m not trying to imply any sort of blobbing was going on here. I was genuinely curious, and thank you to those two who answered. I’m sorry that you took my post as an attempt to bait, but that was not my intent. All I knew is that I couldn’t recall seeing that many HL before. And no, I’m not trying at all. Not all of us are interested in PvF.

It wasn’t really that many though. The same crew came by Briar a while later and they probably didn’t have more than 35 even counting the non-HL with them.

Of course in T2-T3, anything large enough to put up orange swords looks like an unholy horde to us LOL

Dugald.4095:

Yes, thank you EP for being so good to other servers and so toxic for TC. EP is the prime example of a trend that is ruining the TC community.

Your guys’ issues are your own, but we’ve all noticed that this is not a kinder, gentler TC you have going this week.

DB is matched up with T3 or T4 servers almost every week. In fact the story with all of T2 is that TC stomps DB, which stomps FA, which stomps everyone else…. you get the picture.

If you are set on T2 FA is probably your best bet as they have the best chances of getting lumped with another T2 server it seems.

If you are set on seeing 1:1 odds you’d have to go down to T5 at least before you start seeing a plurality of matches have even odds.

If you are looking for a reverse situation and a challenge, look us up on SoS then. We are few in number (in NA, we are good in other time zones) but what we do with what we have is amazing.

styx.7294:

Honestly, maybe boring everyone in tier 1 with matches against tiers 2-5 will finally get them to transfer off there. It seems like they’re in some never ending stupid arms race with each other for population and I do feel like it’s been at the expense of the other servers.

While there have been no shortage of individuals who have left T1, I can only think of 4 guilds in the last 7 months who have left the current top 3 for lower servers. 2 of those went only as far as T2; and only FoE and AGG (FoE is no longer around and essentially merged with AGG) went to any beneath T2.

So that is a single guild in 8 months; 8 months that has seen constant match stagnation and more lag than ever in Tier 1.

There is a T1 mentality, that somehow the tactics and strategies are superior or that the gameplay lacks quality outside of it.

The truth is that have a large comfy blob around you takes pressure off the individual and provides shielding.

In T3 and below, the individual contribution is much more important and your skill or lack thereof is front and center for all to see.

Now this isn’t the case for all T1 guilds, of course. Some of them are just too large to realistically work on smaller servers. TSYM tried to tough it out on SoS but found all that happened is that they’d go onto a map and the enemy would just leave. No one really enjoys PvD.

Shifty.4985:

ko killer.3692:

Shifty.4985:

7 IRON wipes a 20man ish SoS group in tc bl bay just now :/

You had pugs as well and a bit more then 7…

First time yes, but when you came back we didnt

Then we threw a dog biscuit at him…true story.

katanah.8431:

You want a cookie or something?

Yes please… I like chocolate chip!

Just wanted to say thanks for the fun in EB today!
Im so glad we have SoS … best yak parades ever!! See you Thurs!

Well you did start them as a very classy goodwill gesture to facilitate our server training days.

We can’t help but reciprocate and appreciate.

Altie.4571:

Chris.3290:

Like I said, I think they are going purely on server population and have a poor understanding what a difference even a slight change in WvW-focused population makes on a server’s overall performance.

NA T1 is chock full of WvW-focused players, and it goes down in degrees as you go down the ranks.

It would be extremely irresponsible of a development team to develop WvW solely with “WvW active” population in mind. It simply shouldn’t even be discussed as an option, because we can never know what a specific player might decide to do on a given day.

That being said, rather than negative posting that is going on constantly and the “help X because I want Y” we should be throwing out IDEAS. I truly do believe that they read ideas and will use them in some form if it is feasible.

So, lets get cracking with constructive ideas, I started in the reward players on Siege thread.

On the other hand, bad ideas need to be called out. Someone is sitting over there at ANet and is thinking this is a good idea.
So far the only benefit has been to ANet’s bottom line in terms of gem sales; so the thin-line of trust is bending severely at the moment.

I also think you need to develop with your customer-base in mind. Leagues may get more people involved at first, but it’s also going to create giant whipsaws in performance, with T4 and T8 just getting hammered on.

For instance, if Fort Aspenwood faces a match with JQ the first week; a few people will get on but most won’t enjoy the curbstomp.
Then the next week they get SBI and EB, every casual player will come out of the woodwork. Their PPT will go insanely high (the only limiter being queues) and it will create an artificial picture of participation on all three servers.

What it will do, is create more interest in WvW. What it will also do, is show a whole new group the rewards of massive bandwagoning. and we’ll see another mass migration in between and once again when the second season of leagues are announced.

Jax.1283:

This has some sense. I’m also ex-SOS and I stayed on SOS from the tier 1 fall all the way to tier 4. It got to a point where the last couple of main guilds couldn’t do much. So to keep our communities alive we left. But anyways enough of the past. Thanks to TS and friends and Awe for the good fights tonight. Also Awe what was up with that 3rd floor SMC defense…. but all in all a fun night for GC and OCX. Also it was us you guys were fighting not NYS or SAHP they were on TC BL. And thanks to WvW from last Sunday the 25 of us had a lot of fun against you all. You guys are always fun to fight. Thanks all, good fights so far lets end this week on a good note.

Thought I should add that there’s no ill-will on my part (nor on most of the servermates I talk to) about people leaving.
Everyone had to do what they felt was right for their guilds and for their own quality of play.

Azure.8412:

SoS has really decent numbers in Oceanic and SEA. They just simply need a few guilds to unite their insane amount of militia like what MERC and co. did in the past.

A lot of experts on SoS all of the sudden.

MERC didn’t “rally” the militia. They got everyone who was hardcore WvW in Oceanic together…then left.

Everyone who WvW’d everyday (with the exception of a dedicated, great few) left. The precious few who stayed, had to rebuild all timezones from scratch.

We have a lot of potential, and we know it; but you don’t just yank out a rug that big and expect it to change overnight.

Cameron.2315:

This along with a few other issues are what troubles SoS. 1 of the issues, you need to unite all these solo guild tags into 5-6ish main guilds and start getting specced/training properly.

The SoS leadership which is really non existent needs to take control of things and have a plan put in motion which doesnt rely on trying to aquire transfers aka SoS 3.0-4.0.5.0 etc. You need to build and work with what you got whether you want to deny it you’re a tier 2-3 server with an oceanic presence that if unified outnumbers any server period yes even the tier 1 servers keypoint is you’re not unified and have alot of pvx give up type of players filling up your player base.

If you whine about opposing numbers being an issue my prime example Seafarer’s Rest a Medium sized server stopping the hordes of vizunah. Point is it can be done and should be done again more often by any server regardless of tier.

I’m coming to this late but this is just too…yeah; to not address.

First off, there is no deficit in leadership. Anyone who has been on SoS for longer than a week since we left T4 can tell you that.

Second, because we lost so many WvW-focused players; our remaining population who aren’t playing WvW right now are not going to start focusing on it. We’re grateful for the PvX participation we have.

The truth is that the instinct in guild migrations and server collapses in this game is to bandwagon.

SoS is 2-3 medium sized guild transfers away from being a solid T2 competitor, but only a few guilds have had the courage to step up and accept that challenge. We get a lot of individuals who are coming over and stepping up; but we really need a couple of organized groups who love fighting outnumbered and aren’t fair-weather cowards.

daedalus.9814:

Time to get patone back. I wonder what happened to that guy. Did his head explode.

EBG karma trains, yeah that’s what we need...???

Don’t get me wrong, he got a lot of casuals interested; but he would be out of his element in an outnumbered environment and I think he knew that. It’s not coincidence he left right as we started to drop

gennyt.3428:

I wouldn’t hold your breath. It seems like who we’ve been dealing with in this forum is a PR guy and not an actual dev.

He took issue with that at some point in the past, implying that he does develop.

It actually explains things clearly, because developers are less likely to have the time to actually look over their work.

Like I said, I think they are going purely on server population and have a poor understanding what a difference even a slight change in WvW-focused population makes on a server’s overall performance.

NA T1 is chock full of WvW-focused players, and it goes down in degrees as you go down the ranks.

King Amadaeus.8619:

Umm to be honest I haven’t really kept up with the whole league nonsense, mainly because PPT is only an indicator of population 95% of the time.

But how is the scoring going to work? I mean is it going to work like the current rating is now? Because just “winning” does not guarantee that you gain rating.

I guess I should read more about the league, but really I could care-less….Like others have said its just a coverage measuring contest.

The short version: #1 and #13 are going to get oodles of loot and everyone else is going to hate WvW for 7 weeks.

I wonder if any of the WvW team are parents. I think search warrants should be filed for texas steel cage rings in the backyards and for the cupboards where the losers are kept. (J/K but you wonder about the mentality).

Hammer warriors are simply exploiting the reason they were made. Heavy armor + high life pool, and CC.

Every class has CC (mesmers complaining about CC, I’ll remember that the next time I see people pulled off a wall…) and finding the best way to use it is the responsibility of the players and their guildies in helping them refine their builds and playstyles.

As for dealing with hammer mods, double dodge is your friend. As a hammer warrior myself the people I kill are the idiot casters who stay bunched up. Everyone who isn’t “tanky” should be running in circles around the hammer train or picking off stragglers.

Enough with the “blobbing”. Even SBI blobs (before recent transfers) at times.

What it comes down to, is how much of your “blobs” are organized guilds and are people correctly spec’d for WvW.

Half the problems we have on SoS is we have a good fight going and Zachary “Zerkergear” runs into the fight and insta-dies to give a free rally.

I’m sure it happens on TC and even on SoR once in a while but the percentages of it happening are what really makes the difference in tiers.

titanlectro.5029:

I like Devon and the work he has been doing. That said, this illustrates our concerns nicely.

I’m picking on him unfairly, I know. However as the “ombudsman” for the WvW development team, he is the face of the decisions being made.

It’s an odd situation because I believe they still care. If they didn’t care, they wouldn’t have him answering on the forums.
So how to explain the decisions being made?

Well, I personally believe they are looking at overall server population and think if the incentives were high enough that would get more casuals into WvW and would even the playing field.

Of course, this also means they haven’t been exploring the matches enough to understand how much WvW guilds determine the flow of battle and that flooding the borderlands with PvE beserkers, is not going to equal victory for anyone.

My solution, well Devon should get the chance to explain why he thinks things like the leagues and the bloodlust mechanics do anything other than punish lower participation servers.
We don’t expect anything to make victory easier, but the constant emphasis on making WvW a painful experience for lower tier servers speaks to either a lot of naive thinking…or downright evil intentions.

Gulagman.9045:

If YB can hold Kain’s Oceanic folks, they’ll def be more than prepared for IoJ. If YB drops down, you will dominate. Now will SBI move up fast enough? That is the question.

3 matches before the leagues, it’s inconceivable to think they won’t get one high roll in that time.

YB would have to get into one of the famous 2,3,4 (as in tiers) at least twice to keep their lead on SBI.

The worst situation for YB would be a YB-SBI-CD match the last week of the month.

I think IoJ has good odds vs Kaineng (they still have some tough guilds, CNB is tough!)but IoJ and YB is going to be the silver league championship and I don’t think you could take BP.

BP may sound like a lot of hot air on the forums, but they actually can back a lot of that up. If you hit them hard and dominate them on the weekend they’ll wilt and will come on the forums with a bunch of “we’d win if it wasn’t for coverage” talk.

SBI wasn’t a great matchup for you, as I think they are Tier 3 material now and will take the spot EB and CD have been trading for a while now.

With all the unconfirmed scuttlebut of T4 servers considering tanking to get out of the Gold League hatefest and the rapid shuffling of the T5-T7 servers and guilds; who do you think will end up in the coveted #13 spot?

I think SBI chose a rotten time to stack and will get pulled upward if any of the next 3 matches roll upward.

I personally think it will come down to YB or IoJ. YB has had a run of crappy luck, bringing them down to #12 and with the weakest off hours presence north of T6, they look primed to drop further. With their emphasis on a defensive playstyle, they have been one of the servers to gain the least transfers recently as well.

IoJ looks promising with it’s host of recent transfers and resurgent Oceanic population; but IoJ 2.0 has yet to have a good test and they are not fairing well against the other transfer darling, SBI.

So, will YB’s massive AC defenses hold through or will night capping defeat them?

Roughly 17 out of the 24 NA servers this week have legitimate reasons to dislike this week’s matchup.

The T4 & T7 matchups are happy, CD (they needed a break, even though DH and HoD is a cruel joke), and maybe SF is content but I wouldn’t know.

Ntranced.7415:

Banzie.5248:

Wait for it… RANDOM PLOT TWIST, All the oceanic & EU guilds xfer to SoS and just hold everything all day and night.

Top tier already has oceanic and EU coverage sewn up though.

We’d either pull even with or slightly ahead of TC, then our NA would still have only 30 people on TS.

People <T2 already consider us a troll server due to our existing Oceanic and EU coverage LOL

ketorin.5923:

we were trying to T3 and waypoint TC BL garrison lol, got really really close too before we lost it

I hope TC and SoS alike have learned some things so far this week, for better or worse.. just to see whakittens like up here (non condescending).. its what every week of JQ/BG/SoR is .. huge crazy number fights on every map all day every day pretty much

nice to see fresh faces/guilds/tactics out there

keep comin out the rest of the week!

All due respect but a plurality of SoS players know all about Tier 1 and why we are glad to be rid of it. Too bad Anet’s matchmaking system can’t respect that decision.

Have No Faith In Me.1840:

Feels like an eternity since this was posted:

DevonCarver.5370:

TL;DR: We are going to wait at least a couple more weeks before changing any of the math behind the new system, but it is very likely we’ll decrease the size of the variation at some point.

3 months ago.

The variation in gem sales has been very high so they are keeping the point variation high.

The question that needs to be asked:

Who was asking for the orb buff to be returned in this form?

You already have RNG matchmaking and leagues, do you really need further incentive to stack the top servers for gem sales?

Are you going to keep expanding the player cap on those top servers until WvW is only for T1?

covenn.7165:

I ran away from a 1v1 the other day and got killed with my back to them. I got caught switch weapons and had one dagger equipped.

/shrug. Also, if I am running support and not a solo build, I wont even bother fighting someone geared and traited for 1v1. It puts me at a huge disadvantage before the first tick of damage hits anyone. Get over yourselves and try fighting people out soloing instead of people trying to get back to their groups.

Funny, I switch to my solo build and thieves stealth elventybillion times on me and somehow think that is acceptable. When that happens, I just leave the fight.

On the other hand (not directed at the poster), if you are running a support build then you shouldn’t be off roaming either.

I agree though, not everyone is going to want to 1 on 1 and people need to take that to SPvP if they have that burning need.

First, BG members: Create a separate thread called “Separation Anxiety 9/6” and that will be the official thread for T1 servers who can’t stand their favorite trolls being in a separate thread for 7 days.

Second, about the TC members: Most of the guys posting are not the “usual suspects” and there seems to be an extraordinary amount of BH. You guys get to curbstomp 7 out of every 8 matches; you can take your lumps this time.

About blobbing and roaming: This always becomes the subject of the week whenever you have a population imbalance of this magnitude. It’s a topic from T8 on up through this match and it’s tired.
I think I figured out blobbing was a good idea when I was first in a match against NSP during 1 day matchups and saw the AA/RUIN guys come over the hill in vast numbers and thought “it’d be nice if I had that many people with me right now.” Thanks to Kaineng’s rise through the ranks, almost every WvW’r on every server by now has seen a massive blob, and everyone is fine with it until they don’t have a blob with them.

Meanwhile thank you to the members of all servers who have kept things classy on the battlefield.

EDIT: I meant to add that usually TC posters are a lot better than some of the ones we’re seeing this week.

I logged on Thursday and saw that the Shadow Behemoth was up and I was sick to my stomach. If everyone on that event had logged onto WvW at that moment we would have quickly full-capped a few BL at least.

I hate to admit it but PvE does have more players than WvW.

Does that excuse the lack of WvW development? No, in fact the lack of development is probably a factor in that.

One thing you should note, however. WvW remains the best place to get Empyreals. A whole JP for 3, or you can run a karma train and get 3-4 per a camp and 5-8 for towers.

kaian.2615:

This topic is losing to the SoR/TC/SoS topic… was expecting much more out of u “forum entertainers”, this is such a let down.

I know I’m being letdown by this. All three of the best/worst forum warrior servers together and an essentially tied score, and it’s a tea party in here.

To be far about the t2 topic, over half the posters are ppl from BG suffering from separation anxiety.

Troll overload in 3….2…1….

Usagi.4835:

Thanks for the garri, SOS. Was worth it after you spammed emotes at us!

We were laughing because we held garri for over an hour and because that stupid wall was at 1% for like 5 min, while SoR wasn’t rushing in despite having 3 walls and a gate down.

You have to laugh when you have a crap matchup like this.

Slomoshun.6317:

Chris.3290:

Speaking of which, you’re pretty classy NS. Thanks for keeping the fights in the open and not just going for the caps and stuff.

This is something I’ve seen lacking against SoS and EB. Even when numbers are even or you guys have a clear numbers advantage there’s too much turtling. Running in keeps/towers and building defensive siege. Not enough open field imo, which made this week super boring.

I don’t think anyone was real happy about how this week played out.

oddball question but if you have Endure Pain up and retaliation, does retaliation still deal damage to those attacking you?

Evilzara.6378:

Chris.3290:

Evilzara.6378:

Chris.3290:

Evilzara.6378:

You’re giving us advice? Lol..

It’s amazing how one server has attracted so many terrible guilds. The only reason you’re winning right now is because of coverage and numbers, not skill. SBI does not have skill and will never have skill.

Edit: Oh remind me, how many guilds have xferred to SBI? And how many of you guys tried recruiting BP guilds to SBI?

Stay classy SBI.

Congratulations SBI, this is what BP says every time they get roflstomped by a server that people actually transfer to.

Define roflstomped.

129k by SoS and about ~60k by SBI.

The SBI one didn’t reflect things either because their mass transfers weren’t finished until after the match started and the 3-holiday is kind to servers like BP.

I think a rematch would go much worse.

SoS roflstomped us when we were all asleep.

Their mass transfers is the only reason they’re winning,

Choo Choo, all aboard the Stormwagon express to tier 2.

So you, who were recently on DB, consider SBI T2 material? Oh I really want a piece of Stormhaven’s Rest now! (yeah, you only got Abyss but the name is going to stick for a few weeks)

If you guys get to #12 before Leagues start you might get your wish if they do it traditional tourney style where last plays first in the first round (don’t know how that goes with 3 participants though.)

Natronix.9827:

Chris.3290:

Well, SoS just had DB grace us this week so we need a T2 break, and EhmBay was so boring this week that I’m done with them for a while.

1. Mags/BP: The quality of the fighting will make up for the troll overload

1. CD/SBI: Always fun getting the band back together and I want to see Stormbluff’s Rest in action

1. Anything with IoJ: Don’t want to roll down that hard, but our Oceanics would have something to do and it will give their budding forum warriors a good reality check on where they actually stand.

We dont need a reality check, we all know that SoS would roll us with ease. Heck, even facing T5 servers would be quite challenging and we might loose but it would be a lot more challenging and fun than the current matchs up we’ve been getting

About forum warriors? Idk about that theres honestly not many, most of us are a friendly bunch of players.

But yeah we really could use a match with SEA presence, our guys are getting bored.

Most of you are good sports actually (a little ribbing), though there was some joker talking some smack last week at some point.

You guys have a tough lineup ahead of you to move up. Kaineng will actually be a great test for you guys as you won’t have that large of a night advantage and you can find out if you are ready to claw up through T4.

EhmBay, BP and YB don’t have much nighttime but have massive NA numbers. You’ll have a hard time with any of those.

Banzie.5248:

Isle of Janthir
0.000003 Blackgate

Oh god.. That match up.. If that happens LOL

It’s about the same odds as you getting 2 precursor drops from WvW rank chests on the same day.

Evilzara.6378:

Chris.3290:

Evilzara.6378:

You’re giving us advice? Lol..

It’s amazing how one server has attracted so many terrible guilds. The only reason you’re winning right now is because of coverage and numbers, not skill. SBI does not have skill and will never have skill.

Edit: Oh remind me, how many guilds have xferred to SBI? And how many of you guys tried recruiting BP guilds to SBI?

Stay classy SBI.

Congratulations SBI, this is what BP says every time they get roflstomped by a server that people actually transfer to.

Define roflstomped.

129k by SoS and about ~60k by SBI.

The SBI one didn’t reflect things either because their mass transfers weren’t finished until after the match started and the 3-holiday is kind to servers like BP.

I think a rematch would go much worse.

What he means is that BP lost to SBI and in it’s shame they are going to PvE in WvW in atonement.

Understanding that the rankings are set, it would be nice to see how this will breakdown. I think the T4 and T3 servers are especially anxious to see how many times we are likely to face Tier 1 servers.

It sounds like you are looking for Sea of Sorrows if you are in NA. We don’t zerg much and we always need more defenders and scouts to help with golem rushes and all the nonsense that goes on when no one is watching a tower/keep.

Check out our site www.gw2-seaofsorrows.com and you can PM me if you have questions.

GL with your search either way!

Evilzara.6378:

You’re giving us advice? Lol..

It’s amazing how one server has attracted so many terrible guilds. The only reason you’re winning right now is because of coverage and numbers, not skill. SBI does not have skill and will never have skill.

Edit: Oh remind me, how many guilds have xferred to SBI? And how many of you guys tried recruiting BP guilds to SBI?

Stay classy SBI.

Congratulations SBI, this is what BP says every time they get roflstomped by a server that people actually transfer to.

Well, SoS just had DB grace us this week so we need a T2 break, and EhmBay was so boring this week that I’m done with them for a while.

#1 Mags/BP: The quality of the fighting will make up for the troll overload

#2 CD/SBI: Always fun getting the band back together and I want to see Stormbluff’s Rest in action

#3 Anything with IoJ: Don’t want to roll down that hard, but our Oceanics would have something to do and it will give their budding forum warriors a good reality check on where they actually stand.

Most humorous part of the night on SoS. EhmBay breaks into Garrison. I say “we better clear this up quick, if NS figures out what’s going they’ll be in here right away”. We wipe the EhmBays (not much of a fight in you guys right now) and rush to the open door and see NS making for the doors and we literally close it in their faces.

Speaking of which, you’re pretty classy NS. Thanks for keeping the fights in the open and not just going for the caps and stuff.

WRod.3856:

Chris.3290:

racta.4250:

Anyone know this engineer? I want to ask him a couple questions about his build

Much more interesting is the fact that people in DB’s team chat actually say they
“moar zerg” in enemy borderlands.

Dont get it wrong baby girl, I was just saying that so I can open queue for my guildies

Bah, we know you guys aren’t zerging as much as our last matchup. It’s actually made for some pleasant fights really and it’s nice to see DB say “forget PPT, let’s have some fun”.

Really grown from the Tier 3 days where NA would hide in towers and let NNK rack up all their points.

A few more NA guilds on SoS and I think we could have more awesome fights in our future.