Guild Wars 2

Elywood.9017:

I really like your S/D frontliner build, could you share what your traits/gear is for that?

same as pvp and dueling build, just change some utilities u want.

•••Check Video Description for details and builds, pls do watch in 720P •••

P/D & D/D Condition Build
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XMyMJEgSmQ&feature=youtu.be

D/D Bacsktab Burst Build
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgxgmQlgt5o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR0HIWCbk_A

D/P Shortbow Build
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8v3sFA-_Ik

D/D & D/P Backstab Burst
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8v3sFA-_Ik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBJh64Pk1ok

S/P & Shortbow (Pistol Whip/Cluster Bomber)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vF-m_q2Jg0

Double S/D (best build for me imo)

Dueling http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7moYkWLPK8

PvP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LVXxcErhHo

WvW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4ur1vFlMOE

how about they make a Team Deathmatch pvp map. just like in GW1 5v5 Random Arena. the new jumping pvp map sucks! usually when you’re melee

also good for dueling so S/D is perfect to all scenario duel, spvp, tpvp and WvW but for PvE not at all case.

and if u want to rip off bunker guardians, eles.. and all types of bunkers! go double S/D but this build is the hardest build to use for me cuz u need to monitor your init/endurance ALWAYS and needs a fast hand and this build no stealth skill except Cloak & Dagg.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LVXxcErhHo

bunker guardian possible but will take too long lol dont mind bunkers.. just go kill squishy one 1st. and engineers with http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Automated_Response Trait is kinda impossible to kill…

k use this build iv created recently. i think the buff on condi thief and steal CD looks awesome for thieves, the 50% chance to bounce your pistol attacks and Skale Venom for torment condition

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQRAqY4YlUmKN3ey8E95EB3Dm60m6p4ritTBWtKA-TwAgyCuIgRBjzHDMSfs+MCYByOg5CA

k bro listen easiest build to play but the effectiveness is high, just land your Cloak and dagger and use your utilities at right moment don’t waste your utilities cuz the cooldowns are long

the build is listed on the video description

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well if i gonna do it in massive zerg. massive lagg kills me also so i cant do all these stuff in 30man zerg. maybe in small scale fight or “mini zerg”

DirtyBird.6093:

where is this zerg you guys are talking about? I see like maybe 10-15 people in front of a keep max. You down maybe 2 people and dont stomp anybody. It seems like for 80% of this video you are just flopping like a fish in between a buncha dudes swinging your sword, doing pretty marginal damage and not accomplishing much. Im glad you THINK you’re doing all sorts of great things but i just don’t see it – the fact is that if you were a tad bit glassier, and short bow auto attacking/CBing that “zerg” without any breaks in between you would be doing much more damage and providing a blast finisher… I mean you didn’t even use dagger storm, basilisk venom in a zerg fight? breakin my heart… If this was a true 30+ zerg you’d have alot harder time with that style of combat.

Just a suggestion: if you want to go for a melee style of play in a zerg battle (regards to open field) you should be stalking near the outliers of their group picking off people who wonder off from the ball, or picking off reinforcements. Looks like you’re having fun though so kutos.

superior rune of lyssa bro thats why im using basilisk venom. gain all boon and remove all conditions. and if i use dagger storm i gonna eat all their aoe and melee attacks on me LOL. and this is just a test run. if i get all my armors/weapons/sigils that i want.. that wud be better. lets say 15invaders on the ground and another 5 on the upper side defending and casting AOE.

and i can’t do 333 unli evade spam now cuz Larcenous strike cost 2 init. now it’s usually 2+infiltrator’s signet. 33+1 then a quick evade to cancel the animation of #1 slice

Zerbo.5381:

Based on your videos, you’re obviously a good player, so I just wanted to get that out of the way. I don’t however see double s/d being “freakin awesome” here. You’re only good in that enemy front line for as long as you can evade, and often have to withdraw to wait for cd’s, getting hp/initiative back up in between. You don’t bring any combo fields to support your team and it takes a while to actually get players down. With better weapons that time would have been reduced of course, but I still think it would be lacking in damaging fast enough.

D/p however would take most of those upleveled characters down with a backstab and a heartseeker. As you probably already know, s/d and d/p go together actually quite well and the synergy gives a thief a lot more tools than simply spamming 2-3-3-3-3-3-3-2 90% of the time. I think this combo will always be superior to double s/d in wvw because of its versatility. It’s great that you’re trying out new things though.

they’re wasting their skills on me which i can frequently dodged. stealing their boons, and sometimes offense is a great way to victory!

well to answer my question i wait for the WvW to reset and i tried it myself! heres the result!! but my 2 berskerer daggers are just rare and with major energy sigil and my MagicFind fiery dragon sword just for testing LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4ur1vFlMOE

i thought double S/D not that good WvW but when i tried, its freakin awesome! i dnt hav the exact weapons/armors that i want on this video i used Magic Find Exotic fiery sword and 2 rare berserker dagger w/ major sigil of energy just for testing.

Critical Haste Trait http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Critical_Haste

i think devs. shud make this trait quickness duration to 3 secs since they reduced the quickness speed to 50% im not using this trait anymore in PvE

someone gimme suggestion if that s/d evasive is good in WvW roaming or link me a video of it cuz still thinking if i gonna make Bolt or incinerator if s/d roam is not as good as D/P roamer thief in wvw then i just gonna create another incinerator.

Excalibur.9748:

before or after nerf?

they’re all before the nerfed. except the duel with sword/dagger thief and med guardian. the 2 init nerfed on larcenous strike is just fine i guess to make the game to be balance. now i can’t do unlimited dodge unlike before, but s/d still viable to play 1on1 or tpvp

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAs4YlYmSOHcy7E/5Ex2jdKUe6V4rdP4qVrKA-TsAg0CnIKSVkrITRyisFNKY/x8DA

yes S/D are OP if u played it perfectly! but now this game style is not viable anymore
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7moYkWLPK8

Shadow Return not a breakstun anymore but still cost 2 initiatives!? what do u guys think? giv us your thought.

try to pre cast CnD then steal or any other shadowstep

only hav 1 incinerator and Aether. all i need is another world explo (79% now) for another incinerator. proud to say i didn’t bought any golds from gold sellers or gems then trade to gold. i just spent 50$ for 4k gems for bank slot, + bag slot, makeup kit and other stuff.

Mujen.5287:

TheOneNOnlyGeneralBama.9586:

I dont quite understand people who wants to duel and run around the entire area and completely out of the bounds of a duel area only to heal up etc…the entire map isnt the dueling area , this 720 radius is all thats needed..now lets dance shall we?

Before the tournament we sent all the fighters a copy of the rules about out of bounds. Caed decided to use the same build, where as lady steamhawke changed her build during almost every match.

ya ladyhawke is smart. he plays different build as always in every match! so he’s hard to counter

Jumper.9482:

He pretty much played it as the stereotype is portrayed, 3333333 dodgedodgedodge 33333333.
He wasn’t really mixing it up and properly animation canceling and reacting to his opponent as he should have been; 33dodge331dodge3dodge31dodge33dodge331dodge331 etc.
He is much better at D/P and I think his favouritism for the kit shows (he doesn’t really like the S/D playstyle).

i also tried that way to steamhawke but didn’t work well when you’re s/d. i tried D/P and hav a better chance of winning

i wud like to thank N.M.C.C. for makin this tournament possible

40 players competing for this 1v1 tournament and Lady Shadowhawke made it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYS9Q8Iq0Dk&feature=youtu.be

Babayum.9204:

Just one thing, why are you calling urself father of double S/D? People have been using the build you play long before the flanking buff…

but they can’t play as good as Jumper period.

my favorite is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO1_cpIIzXI
and rise against songs like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBI7gauE7ho

kitten that AC/DC vocalist is too old! but he can still sing like in his 80s just amazing!.

good job bro! ignore the haters.. haters gonna hate as always cuz they can’t do what you’re doin. and if you don’t like the music just mute it then. im using s/d too in spvp tpvp. i wanna try it in WvW too but i dnt have the right armors and weapons!. currently doin D/P way in WvW

flanking evade spam S/D

-Pros.
*bunker/boon breakers! easy to deal classes who depends on boons
*very Evasive! untouchable
*Mobility is very good! port in port out (i use infiltrator’s strike/shadow return for breakstun)
*many shadow steps. u can even catch the runnin foe even if hes too far ranging 600 – 3,600 distance
*very hard to counter
*lots of endurance gain and initiative gain when u traited it well
*hard to catch
*very good in team clash i feel like i really helpin the team in this build in sPvP/tPvP compared to my D/P way
*2 secs. daze #1 skill while invisible is good putting pressure on foe

-Cons.
*hard to play this build the gameplay is fast pace unlike stealthy thief build u have plenty of time to think.
*less Stealth just the Cloak and Dagger (but i usually using it for dazing or escaping)
*less healing capability and Squishy
*lack of condi remove on this build i feel burden when many conditions/stacks on me unlike D/P Shadow Refuge or stealth and you’re safe with those many conditions!
*impossible to do 3v1 situation unlike D/P (unless if theyre newbie)
*not good in WvW roaming. if u encounter zerg pretty hard to escape. and lack of stealth kills you as always in WvW thief

D/P that plays 30 shadow arts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZJg-V1B4xA
-Pros.
*good survival (stealth)
*interrupt
*can easily remove conditions
*healin capability is great! and tougher
*good @ blind foes (Blinding Powder)
*backstab dmg is sick! if u can land it most of the time
*easier to take down 3v1 fight compared to S/D
*very good in WvW Roaming with few friends or Solo

-Cons
*not good in team clash sPvP/tPvPwhile you guys wants to hold the capturing area cuz D/P usually do invi which is not helping your team in holding/capturing points
*lots of Aoe, Traps, Marks and Aoe Condition field is a good counter for D/P invi spam
*lack of break stun compared to S/D
*hard to deal with hybrid or bunker boon guardians/engineers. Beast Master/Condi Regen Rangers, M M necros cuz of many Minions bacsktab is less effective

Teamkiller.4315:

Coloxeus.3480:

so this guild is exclusive for thief players only? whats the Guild tag?

I imagine it would be [NRTO] (Naruto with the vowels removed)

Sorry, couldn’t resist.

lol i guess so. NRTO!

Arganthium.5638:

Coloxeus.3480:

why no bunker thief written lol…. so they just built for offense. and still many ppl complaining about steal boon flanking strike of thief poor thief very poor

They can be built more defensively. All of my specs typically run much better survivability than tons of thief builds.

And the people complaining about FS stealing their boons make me laugh.

ya i agree lol. that’s the only way how thieve’s gaining boon except from few stacks of might and 2secs swiftness on evade and trait gain vigor when using heal. imagine thieves can’t gain protection or stability!?? and Lacenous strike is 1sec casting time and its very hard to hit on foe. if u fail that’s a waste of 4initiatives. they need to try our build 1st. be4 they complain

FinalPatriot.8034:

Coloxeus, does your build work as well as a roaming build in WvW?

i haven’t tried that in WvW cuz i dnt hav the exact armors/weapons. but i don’t think this build works in WvW well . in this build its kinda hard to do 3v1… 2v1 is possible. if u wanna go WvW id suggest to go D/P or D/D. on that build u can still manage to do 3v1 to 5v1 (with lowbies) cuz of in D/P if your opener/initiating is not goin well u can go perma invi w8ing to heal.. resetting and u can go again. in S/D if u fail once. your dead in WvW 3v1 or 2v1

i agree. if u prefer PvP learn to counter every build, if u can’t beat him. join him and try his class or build. if u still fail that means u play bad. u still need to learn. don’t just go in the forum and ask for nerfs! learn to play the game!

so this guild is exclusive for thief players only? whats the Guild tag?

give us your thoughts? in sPvP/tPvP everyone play as a bunker or hybrid but still tough to kill… so let thief be the boon/bunker destroyers since we don’t have traits for bunker build. if arena net gonna nerf Larcenous Strike. just delete this class and just be a standing combat dummy in Lions Arch

why no bunker thief written lol…. so they just built for offense. and still many ppl complaining about steal boon flanking strike of thief poor thief very poor

is this what you’re talkin about? try this gameplay if u can do it very well. yes this flanking s/d is OP if u played it perfectly. just like guardians, mesmers, engineers, Eles. if u played em so kitten perfect less mistake your OP! everyone can be OP if u played it Perfectly! so don’t ask for another thief nerf.. we’ve been receiving tons of nerfs in the past few months.

if they gonna nerf this flanking steal boon skill… why dnt they just delete thief class in game.. its probably a useless class except the D/P but still not that great in team clash spvp.. d/p is just good solo roamer in WvW. or maybe they shud change the thief class to Lone Wolf Class (GTFO thief we don’t need u in team!)

try dagger mainhand and sword as offhand

LOL thought WM= War Machine. but yeah Washing Machine LOL

Anet pls bring back the Random Arena or Team Arena just like in GW1 and the Dishonor buff when a player leaves a match twice. dishonor means u cannot participate to any PvP match in a short period of time.. and will increase penalty duration if you continue to leave a match

salameri.3768:

Coloxeus.3480:

il giv u an idea. watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvgRjkziDDM&list=UU-SjU98hzx0-TdRsxXuf6kg&index=12

LAWLS that mesmer was the worst mesmer I have ever seen!!!! Video is not valid sorry

so talking is more valid lol and are u the one who needs advice?

il giv u an idea. watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvgRjkziDDM&list=UU-SjU98hzx0-TdRsxXuf6kg&index=12

forget about the wvw videos on the last part. its different build. just watch my sPvP video