thief dueling different professions including mesmer and d/d ele
D/P style u can survive well even if Shadow refuge is on CD. and when your initiative is low at the same time stealth utilities is cooldown. don’t be aggressive. and use your initiative wisely doin black powder+heartseeker stealth thing D/P build. be patient don’t just HS spam. use HS spam when your sure u can kill him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZJg-V1B4xA
my main is thief but to tell you honestly i really love the 4secs stealth immunity to reduce thief users. no problem on my D/D D/P build atm
me using D/D and D/P pm me in game if u want to know my build
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZJg-V1B4xA&list=UU-SjU98hzx0-TdRsxXuf6kg&index=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvgRjkziDDM&list=UU-SjU98hzx0-TdRsxXuf6kg&index=5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR0HIWCbk_A&list=UU-SjU98hzx0-TdRsxXuf6kg&index=9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgxgmQlgt5o&list=UU-SjU98hzx0-TdRsxXuf6kg&index=2
omg dnt post this yishi! anet will gonna nerf D/P build
just like my videos and subscribe to my channel . pm me in game i will show u my build.
Burst Spike Build:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR0HIWCbk_A&list=UU-SjU98hzx0-TdRsxXuf6kg&index=9
My Meta build:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZJg-V1B4xA&list=UU-SjU98hzx0-TdRsxXuf6kg&index=1
im in a work right now . cant do it now. il post it later
so its been 2 days.
ok here u go. im running 4 different builds. but this one is my favorite
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQRAoa4YlYm6O3ey5E/5Ey2jKcnIKuHGlT1UaFoJA
i wish GW2 can produce this kind of cinematic just like in Guild Wars 1
heres some example why i want scholar rune 10% more dmg buff. i really feel the damage of D/D burst spike!
Scholar? Why not divinity? Don´t play much sPvP yet because i still have to figure out how to play the thief properly – whatever i do it ends in me dying to any class played by a half decent player in WvW – but seeing that being above 90% is rare (at least for me) i´d choose divinity. Meh, i have to learn a lot…
BTW, i didnt want to sound that rude to you, Coloxeus. My wording isnt exactly the best because my english vocabulary tends to be a little bit narrow. That said, what you do is possible because you have the skill to do it, not because the thief is overpowered or because you abuse some mechanics. ArenaNet should consider bringing the thief back to former glory especially in PvE and a little bit in WvW/PvP instead of further nerfing it.
Tried the build, interesting playstyle – even though i ended up confusing myself with all the jumping and porting around
either way will do. divinity, scholar or ruby orb. but for me i prefer scholar. i want more attack power for backstab . low critical chance won’t bother me at all cuz i have this Hidden Killer trait. and i want scholars 6th buff. 10% dmg while hp above 90%. really good for burst spike D/D.
Would really like to give you some 1v1s. I play thief, guardian and mesmer. Would you fancy it?
I’m rank 42, but I don’t think that has much standing this far in to the game.
whats ur main? pm me in game coloxus. but right now g2 go sleep
if you only use chest valkirye , weapons and amulet you get more
i have 17500 hp on my thief, but i saw some builds with 21k hp
i have valkyrie armors SET. the rest berserker. no vit traits and now only have 14k hp
i spamming HS when enemy is @ 20-30% HP
im using all valkyrie armor sets and berserker weaps and trinkets. with 5% precision convert to HP. and my total HP in WvW 13.8k i think arena net shud increase this “practiced tolerance” trait make it 10-15% precision convert to HP or just increase HP pool to 11k – 13k.?
wow. so arena net thinking thieves are OP!?? lowest HP pool class only has 10k hp no vit gears. how about these perma boons on ele.? ya i saw many good D/D eles doing this stuff. and theyre unkillable. i think all GM in arena net using D/D ele whats why they’re not nerfing it eh?
Hello fellow thieves,
Being interested in this build myself, i watched this video multiple times to figure it out, and here’s what’ve i guessed : http://tiny.cc/c82ruw
Runes/sigils/amulet included, i’m pretty sure at 90% that he’s using the exact same one.
Enjoy.
Impossible. Take a little closer look
To be specific, if he doesnt want to share his build, its his choice, despite being a cheap and selfish one. especially when bragging about it with a video. But anyways, showing a video of a build in sPvP makes it rather easy to decipher what build is being used – and i do it because he is so not-nice to post a video about a build but not telling detail about it.
sPvP has fixed numbers, no health buff from WvW.
He doesnt get initiative on steal, so no points spent in trickery.
He doesnt get swiftness on dodge, so no points spent in acrobatics (second fight)
He heals in stealth, so 30 points spent in shadow arts and using shadow arts´ XI.
He gains initiative entering stealth so he uses shadow arts´ V.
He cleanses conditions when entering stealth, so he is using shadow arts´ IV.
He poisons his target using steal thus there are points spent in dadly arts.
But his target doesnt get weakness when its poisoned from steal or dagger AA-chain, thus only 10 points spent in deadly arts (second fight)
He doesnt have traps, target doesnt get vulnerability on crit, steal doesnt apply a longer poison, thus i think the only logical thoice is deadly arts´ III
This leaves us with 30 points spent in critical strikes.
His backstabs dont always crit, but all his attacks seem to get stronger when target is below 50%. I am almost sure this indicates a usage of critical strikes´ XI.
After experimenting with the numbers, i figured he uses critical strikes´ VI in both fights i analyzed.The build is a 10/30/30/0/0 in the fight with the elementalist, 0/30/30/10/0 in the fight with the mesmer, with acrobatics´ II.
Knowing the build he uses enables you to play with the different gear setups and runes to reach the number of health points.
He uses berserker´s amulet with berserker´s jewel in both fights and vitality-neutral runes. However, to figure out which runes he uses and which sigills is a harder one. Sigil of fire / sigil of air are definitely in use, but i am not sure about the runes and the other sigils.But, anyways, this is the most part. Any questions?
10/30/30/0/0
great analyzing my build
your’e 90% right. ok i dnt like calling me selfish i wanna share my build. it is just that im afraid arena net will nerf some thief traits if they see my play style and build.
im running 4 different build. depending on which map (tPvP) but this one is my favorite.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQRAoa4YlYm6O3ey5E/5Ey2jKcnIKuHGlT1UaFoJA
i prefer scholar runes. valkyrie armor set. berserker weapons and ruby trinkets and food with (100toughness 70 precision)
Hello fellow thieves,
Being interested in this build myself, i watched this video multiple times to figure it out, and here’s what’ve i guessed : http://tiny.cc/c82ruw
Runes/sigils/amulet included, i’m pretty sure at 90% that he’s using the exact same one.
Enjoy.
Impossible. Take a little closer look
To be specific, if he doesnt want to share his build, its his choice, despite being a cheap and selfish one. especially when bragging about it with a video. But anyways, showing a video of a build in sPvP makes it rather easy to decipher what build is being used – and i do it because he is so not-nice to post a video about a build but not telling detail about it.
sPvP has fixed numbers, no health buff from WvW.
He doesnt get initiative on steal, so no points spent in trickery.
He doesnt get swiftness on dodge, so no points spent in acrobatics (second fight)
He heals in stealth, so 30 points spent in shadow arts and using shadow arts´ XI.
He gains initiative entering stealth so he uses shadow arts´ V.
He cleanses conditions when entering stealth, so he is using shadow arts´ IV.
He poisons his target using steal thus there are points spent in dadly arts.
But his target doesnt get weakness when its poisoned from steal or dagger AA-chain, thus only 10 points spent in deadly arts (second fight)
He doesnt have traps, target doesnt get vulnerability on crit, steal doesnt apply a longer poison, thus i think the only logical thoice is deadly arts´ III
This leaves us with 30 points spent in critical strikes.
His backstabs dont always crit, but all his attacks seem to get stronger when target is below 50%. I am almost sure this indicates a usage of critical strikes´ XI.
After experimenting with the numbers, i figured he uses critical strikes´ VI in both fights i analyzed.The build is a 10/30/30/0/0 in the fight with the elementalist, 0/30/30/10/0 in the fight with the mesmer, with acrobatics´ II.
Knowing the build he uses enables you to play with the different gear setups and runes to reach the number of health points.
He uses berserker´s amulet with berserker´s jewel in both fights and vitality-neutral runes. However, to figure out which runes he uses and which sigills is a harder one. Sigil of fire / sigil of air are definitely in use, but i am not sure about the runes and the other sigils.But, anyways, this is the most part. Any questions?
10/30/30/0/0
great analyzing my build
your’e 90% right. ok i dnt like calling me selfish i wanna share my build. it is just that im afraid arena net will nerf some thief traits if they see my play style and build.
im running 4 different build. depending on which map (tPvP) but this one is my favorite.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQRAoa4YlYm6O3ey5E/5Ey2jKcnIKuHGlT1UaFoJA
I’ve been thinking about switching to D/P for wvw. I still prefer my modified jinzu burst build for spvp.
Problem is that for D/P I feel I need at least 15 Trickery.
if ur planning for stealth abuse build just like the way im doin. go get toughness trait with “everytime u stealth u gain 2 initiative” dont waste your 15 trickery just to get additional 3 initiative
Hello fellow thieves,
Being interested in this build myself, i watched this video multiple times to figure it out, and here’s what’ve i guessed : http://tiny.cc/c82ruw
Runes/sigils/amulet included, i’m pretty sure at 90% that he’s using the exact same one.
Enjoy.
Impossible. Take a little closer look
To be specific, if he doesnt want to share his build, its his choice, despite being a cheap and selfish one. especially when bragging about it with a video. But anyways, showing a video of a build in sPvP makes it rather easy to decipher what build is being used – and i do it because he is so not-nice to post a video about a build but not telling detail about it.
sPvP has fixed numbers, no health buff from WvW.
He doesnt get initiative on steal, so no points spent in trickery.
He doesnt get swiftness on dodge, so no points spent in acrobatics (second fight)
He heals in stealth, so 30 points spent in shadow arts and using shadow arts´ XI.
He gains initiative entering stealth so he uses shadow arts´ V.
He cleanses conditions when entering stealth, so he is using shadow arts´ IV.
He poisons his target using steal thus there are points spent in dadly arts.
But his target doesnt get weakness when its poisoned from steal or dagger AA-chain, thus only 10 points spent in deadly arts (second fight)
He doesnt have traps, target doesnt get vulnerability on crit, steal doesnt apply a longer poison, thus i think the only logical thoice is deadly arts´ III
This leaves us with 30 points spent in critical strikes.
His backstabs dont always crit, but all his attacks seem to get stronger when target is below 50%. I am almost sure this indicates a usage of critical strikes´ XI.
After experimenting with the numbers, i figured he uses critical strikes´ VI in both fights i analyzed.The build is a 10/30/30/0/0 in the fight with the elementalist, 0/30/30/10/0 in the fight with the mesmer, with acrobatics´ II.
Knowing the build he uses enables you to play with the different gear setups and runes to reach the number of health points.
He uses berserker´s amulet with berserker´s jewel in both fights and vitality-neutral runes. However, to figure out which runes he uses and which sigills is a harder one. Sigil of fire / sigil of air are definitely in use, but i am not sure about the runes and the other sigils.But, anyways, this is the most part. Any questions?
10/30/30/0/0
….question mark? Someone enlighten me?
for me .. my main is D/P then when my basilisk stone and steal is ready. il switch to D/D. basilisk stone. f1 steal>cloak and dagger>backstab. semi burst spike. when im on D/D…. D/P when doin normal way and stuff
shadow refuge for a closer or breakstun or NPC/30s…
d/p shouldn’t need shadow refuge, you can produce plenty stealth.
im using shadow refunge when my blinding powder is on CD or when lack of initiative to black powder then HS.. and shadow refuge can heal 1k hp/2secs. when traited “shadow’s rejuvenation” and can removed all my conditions in just few secs. when traited “Shadow’s Embrace” or im using shadow refuge when reseting and re engage again. or for escaping. this is the most OP utility skills of thief
im in a work right now . cant do it now. il post it later
cuz 30 on critical strikes (hidden killer trait) very deadly 100% crit on backstab. and its up to u if u can survive . use ur shadow refuge wisely . u shud always know when to engage or retreat
for WvW ya that build is awesome easy to survive. but if u want more deadly but less survival id recommend my build. 10/30/30/0/0. valkyrie armors. berserker trinkets and weapons.
Use infiltrator’s signet. Allows you to black powder -> HS -> backstab -> autoattack chain, repeat. It also provides as stun breaker, shadowstep and has lower CD than shadowstep. In this build infiltrator is definetely better than shadowste (though I love shadowstep).
I think Shadowstep is a necessary utility for OP if he’s running D/D and D/P. Infiltrator’s signet needs a target for the shadowstep to activate, and if OP is in a bad spot I don’t think he wants to stun break into the middle of the enemy pack. You can get away with Infiltrator’s Signet because you have shortbow as an alternate weapon set to put some distance between yourself and a fight.
I run D/P and S/D with the same traits you do. Shadowstep is a must for escapes when both weapon sets are melee. Shadowstep -> run around for a few seconds and let your pursuers chase -> black powder -> shadow return -> gtfo
exactly thats what im doing. and when my heal skill is on CD and low hp. il shadow refuge w8ing to regain my HP and also stacking 10 mights while in stealth im preparing to spike so switching to D/D with basilisk venom. then f1 spike! i think bursting with 10stack wud be OP
You must be trying to keep your exact build a secret, eh?
Entertaining video! This is what I’d hoped the Thief would be when I rolled it… lots of quick stealths (not perma stealth), lots of dodging, lots of tricks. Cool stuff!
ya i hope u guys understand. if i posted my build. many thieves will copy my exact style and build. and theres a possibility anet will gonna nerf this build again!. cuz when many other classes crying Q.Q saying “wtf D/P build almost unstoppable nerf it come on!”
Use infiltrator’s signet. Allows you to black powder -> HS -> backstab -> autoattack chain, repeat. It also provides as stun breaker, shadowstep and has lower CD than shadowstep. In this build infiltrator is definetely better than shadowste (though I love shadowstep).
Also, I run a 0 10 30 30 0 D/P like this: CLICK.
Mine is for wvwvw, but I run the same in sPvP wearing full zerker gear and 6xRune of Scholar.
i gonna try it then
mind sharing mine.. pm me in game lets duel and bring it on!
when using Dagger Storm elite. i removing that MUG attack power trait and put it to 10vit (50% speed while stealth) more on team clash scenario
i put 10 attak power to get MUG when using basilisk elite. im doin this for roaming capping style or can be spike burst… ( i shadow refuge to gain 10 stack might before spiking someone)
(edited by Coloxeus.3480)
how about increasing the duration of Time Warp, Sigil of Rage and Traits that cause quickness like thief’s Critical Haste or Ranger’s Zephyr Speed trait . since they nerfed quickness to 50% speed . these traits and mesmer’s ELITE skill time warp aint effective at all
i agree with you pantsforbirds. nerf on stealth isn’t that bad.. my main is thief but imo that nerf is just fine. . but imo D/D thief isnt that great cuz of this nerfed. so this build i made D/P best choice for pvp wvw in my opinion.
and on my 1st duel i put wrong trait on critical strikes Executioner . instead of hidden killer 100% crit chance while in stealth. thats why takes too long to kill him.
ya my mistake on triple HS on mesmer first duel. cuz i thought i landed my f1 steal. if u gonna review it again. i casted f1 steal there. but out of range. sometimes thats my finishing blow when my opponet is at least 40%hp below. HS(w8 1/2 sec) then steal, HS>HS
just wanna tell u this build is very hard to play cuz i lose alot of initiative everytime stealth using D/P. but practice makes it perfect
i bought hundred of black lion key and got 1 fused weapon ticket, when i talked to fused weapon merchant. it just bought Fused Mace Skin which my Thief cant use it. wondering why there isn’t a confirmation before buying these skins. I sent in a Support Ticket and was told there was nothing that could be done. if thats the case . restoring or to roll back my account since the time before i bought this fused mace skin is fine to me. if this roll back/restoring is possible i know the exact game server time. cuz i recorded this scene while opening tons of black lion chest
just wanna help this another player with same problem check this post
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/account/Fused-Weapons-Merchant
my ticket #
130329-000038
heres my ticket #
#130329-000038
same problem
. and these are very hard items to get! i want my fused weapon ticket back… rolling back or restoring my account is just fine to me just to get that fused weapon ticket and gonna get fused dagger
Hidden Killer critical strikes XII trait doesn’t work anymore or did they just nerfed thieves again?
wow ur burst is like crit dmg of bacsktab but thieves needs to stealth get close and hit backstab well. and they still nerfing thieves. 4secs stealth immunity. and u can easily owned glass canon built on your vid. especially thieves with just pressing 2 3 1
i finally got my Fused weapon claim ticket after hundred tries of black lion chest… when i talk to npc and rdy to claim fused dagger. i cant find my “Fused weapon claim ticket” and then when i looked at my inventory heres what i see! Fused Mace!!? i dunno if this is a bug issue or some lagg,. cuz i didnt get a prompt asking “are you sure buying this item?” i dunno if theres a possibility gettin a new one or item restoration or something… but i spent everything just to get atleast 1 fused claiming ticket for this very nice looking skins!
w8ing for reply thnx…

