In principle I agree with the original post: best in slot WvW gear from WvW only.
Mythic messed up big with Trials of Atlantis in DAoC and other companies also get lambasted for forcing PvE grind on people that don’t want to do PvE. ArenaNet would be wise to make sure they don’t give advantage to those willing to PvE grind to get optimum stats.
I would be disappointed to feel forced to grind a particular dungeon repeatedly so I could get to join in the fun stuff on an equal footing. By disappointed read “I will find something more fun to do with my time”.
It’s already happening. Most WvWvW players I know are now grinding fractals. Lol.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Please make your voice heard. flood all online buying sites with comments and reviews. If you don’t like this patch, say so. If they don’t sell anything over the holidays, someone will get fired and the direction will change.
Nice logic, lol.
Shame on you for wishing for someone to loose their job in this economy because of your personal “entitlement”.
Lol, business isn’t a charity, son. If you mess up, you deserve to lose your job so that the rest of the employees can keep theirs.
So you’re saying you didn’t get your 60 bucks worth of content and hours of playtime?
Sorry about your luck.
Also I am 31, so unless your in your 50’s you can refrain from calling me “son”. It’s insulting and snide.
What does me getting my $60 worth have to do with an incompetent wrecking this game? My apologies. Your logic and language implied a much younger age.
My language?! Look at my posting history, and look at yours. Who is the one who is immature? Who is speaking rationally, and who is raging like a child who isn’t getting his way?
Now that we have that straightened out. On to your point. You implied everyone should go make rage posts on consumer review sites, in hopes that hard working people at Anet lose their jobs.
My point back to you was that you got your moneys worth, what do you have to complain about that is valid enough to cost someone their job.
If you cannot look at what you have said and see the problem or issue with that, then there isn’t much hope for you as a human being.
Best of Luck!
So let incompetent people keep working so that the entire business goes under. Oh THAT makes a TON of sense. No, I don’t think that people who wreck a business should remain employed at said business. That’s rational. Besides, the world needs ditch diggers too.
Show me financial evidence that they “wrecked their game”. Or that GW2 is “going under”.
Or are you basing your entire argument on your personal opinion. If so, lulz.
See you six months from now, when GW2 is trucking along just fine. Still making money. Not missing entitled players like yourself one bit.
Like I said, best of luck with life, and growing up.
Entitled? Lol. I am simply asking them to follow through on their promises. Nice personal attack by the way.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Please make your voice heard. flood all online buying sites with comments and reviews. If you don’t like this patch, say so. If they don’t sell anything over the holidays, someone will get fired and the direction will change.
Nice logic, lol.
Shame on you for wishing for someone to loose their job in this economy because of your personal “entitlement”.
Lol, business isn’t a charity, son. If you mess up, you deserve to lose your job so that the rest of the employees can keep theirs.
So you’re saying you didn’t get your 60 bucks worth of content and hours of playtime?
Sorry about your luck.
Also I am 31, so unless your in your 50’s you can refrain from calling me “son”. It’s insulting and snide.
What does me getting my $60 worth have to do with an incompetent wrecking this game? My apologies. Your logic and language implied a much younger age.
My language?! Look at my posting history, and look at yours. Who is the one who is immature? Who is speaking rationally, and who is raging like a child who isn’t getting his way?
Now that we have that straightened out. On to your point. You implied everyone should go make rage posts on consumer review sites, in hopes that hard working people at Anet lose their jobs.
My point back to you was that you got your moneys worth, what do you have to complain about that is valid enough to cost someone their job.
If you cannot look at what you have said and see the problem or issue with that, then there isn’t much hope for you as a human being.
Best of Luck!
So let incompetent people keep working so that the entire business goes under. Oh THAT makes a TON of sense. No, I don’t think that people who wreck a business should remain employed at said business. That’s rational. Besides, the world needs ditch diggers too.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Please make your voice heard. flood all online buying sites with comments and reviews. If you don’t like this patch, say so. If they don’t sell anything over the holidays, someone will get fired and the direction will change.
Nice logic, lol.
Shame on you for wishing for someone to loose their job in this economy because of your personal “entitlement”.
Lol, business isn’t a charity, son. If you mess up, you deserve to lose your job so that the rest of the employees can keep theirs.
So you’re saying you didn’t get your 60 bucks worth of content and hours of playtime?
Sorry about your luck.
Also I am 31, so unless your in your 50’s you can refrain from calling me “son”. It’s insulting and snide.
What does me getting my $60 worth have to do with an incompetent wrecking this game? My apologies. Your logic and language implied a much younger age.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
im sick of all this kitten on these forums. if you guys feel like your grinding or being forced to do something then don’t do it. the premise is really simple. Play the game for fun. have fun with the game. when you stop having fun take a break. you aren’t being forced to farm/grind or whatever else you want to call it. it’s not required to do anything in the game. so just remember it’s a game, have fun. if your not having fun, take a break. you already bought the game and it will be here when you’re ready to have fun again.
I guess if you love getting curb stomped by better geared players in WvWvW, then we can take your advice and not get ascended gear.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
It’s not actually the ‘grind’ most people disagree with.
It is the grind to advance instead of a grind ‘at your own leisure’. It’s why people mention vertical and horizontal progression. Need gear to get gear versus get gear to get other (often cosmetic) stuff.
There were people who complained about Legendaries being difficult to get; but they weren’t many. There were people complaining about WvW badge drop rate; but they weren’t many.
I’ve seen nobody complain about the grind to acquire titles from the achievement list.
It’s not the grind per se. It’s the enforced grind and what it represents and how many people have experienced it affecting other games most seem to object to.
And it’s the going back on words by ANet. The change in design philosophy.
It’s just easier to write ‘grind’ than a long explanation and most people seem to understand the difference …. except when wanting to cause argument.
Maybe your looking at it wrong? Achievements is more like reading a good book with a conclusion. Then you find out there is a sequel to the book. I look at the Achievements and figure out where to ponder in Tyria to complete my goals. Some are more repetitive, but its mostly from playing the game in a ‘normal’ sense.
Grinding is me purposely doing the same action over and over again. It’s more like me reading the back cover of a book over and over again. I did not really enjoy the book nor will I care about a sequel.
The difference is that I earn achievements by playing all contents of the game. I grind for a legendary in a specific location. I could have a legendary with 500 achievement points and not have a legendary at 15,000 achievement points.
If we hate dungeons, being forced to do them to remain competitive is a grind. sorry.
What? I started dungeons with rare gear. My first exotic dungeon set was from TA. Then with mats I had and some bought, I had my friend CRAFT me an exotic set. All other sets of armor from dungeons is my reward for grouping with friends to master the mechanics of each dungeon.
If you spent 10mins with me on Ventrilo during a dungeon run, you will know that I hate skipping content that is considered hard by the GW2 community. Of lately, I have pugged a few CoF and insisted that we defend Mag the legit way.
Most importantly is that you do not have to run dungeons to remain competitive. There is many ways to obtain exotic gear, and you don’t even have to step foot in a dungeon if you want a Legendary.
Lol, did you miss the detail that ascended gear is 20-50% better than exotic? Besides, I have zero interest in mastering the mechanics of any dungeon, lol. Why force me to do so?
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Despite people complaining about the ascended gear being just another grind to get… you know the usual whining that people do….
By running difficulty level 2 fractals I had the item needed to craft the ascended back piece, Just from very casual play I had all of the skill points and ectos and most of the tier 6 mats needed, the rest I bought from the TP.
As for the rings, you get your first one at difficulty 10-11… I’m only on difficulty 4 atm and the dungeon itself is not difficult in comparison to other dungeons in this game and it’s actually fun and easy to find groups since everyone is doing it…
People will complain about anything, heck they even complain about handouts/free stuff that is given to them… this is definitely no exception. It doesn’t take loads of money to get this stuff, it takes playing the game the way you normally play. The only reason it’s going to take your life away or all your gold is if you’re so impatient you have to have the gear “RIGHT THIS SECOND” In which case you need to look at your own personal faults, not ArenaNet for adding something to the game.
Goodie for you. Some of us hate dungeons and will never do them. Why didn’t they make these available in wvwvw right away? It can’t be that hard. Yes, they added mandatory dungeon grinds to be competitive. thanks.
If you honestly think that the few stat increases from 3 items is going to give someone the edge or “ease” to kill you and stop you from being competitive… you must not be very good at pvp and suggest you stop.
Yes 20%+ better stats are minimal. Lol.
It’s 3% overall change in your total character stats.
Get the maths right. You have innate stats at 80 alongside stats from gear. Do the maths properly, hint: taking items in isolation is not accurate.
Don’t blame a 3% change in stats for why you would lose a fight, that’s just weaksauce.
Nope. Add the stats.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
No long winded wall of text can change the FACT, that Guild Wars 1 is not considered an MMO by most people who know what they’re talking about. CORPG is not MMORPG. They are two different things. Period.
And it’s hilarious to watch people try so hard to say it’s something it’s clearly, very clearly not.
So continue on, I do need the laugh.
Sorry, you aren’t most people, son.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
I thought that all of the dungeon content was optional as well as the SPvP and WvW content.. How is implementing a new optional tier of gear getting this many people upset?
Everything is optional. No one is forcing you to do FotM to get the Ascended Gear. No one is forcing you to get Map Completion, Crafting to 400, and making legendaries.
Everytime I see someone with some dislike towards the new type of gear. I tell them. “Sit down. Have a breather, take a smoke, reflect for a bit. What you’re complaining about is optional. It might not appeal to you, but it might appeal to the people who lost interest when they hit 80 during the early start when they realised there was no Endgame content.”
How is 20-50% better gear optional? Sure it’s optional if you enjoy getting your head caved in in WvWvW.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Please make your voice heard. flood all online buying sites with comments and reviews. If you don’t like this patch, say so. If they don’t sell anything over the holidays, someone will get fired and the direction will change.
Nice logic, lol.
Shame on you for wishing for someone to loose their job in this economy because of your personal “entitlement”.
Lol, business isn’t a charity, son. If you mess up, you deserve to lose your job so that the rest of the employees can keep theirs.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
I do. most games aren’t retired…and if they are too thick headed to listen, then perhaps the game should be closed.
It’s not the developers you have to worry about, it’s the funding behind the developers. Investors can be very fickle these days. It won’t matter if they got the message, if all the negative buzz created scares off the funding. If you hit them in the wallet, the wallet makes the decision, not the head.
Good, then perhaps whoever drove this wrong headed direction will get justifiably fired.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Just login,play the game,and see if you still like it, ( im betting you do ) >Ignore all the negativity on the forums,dont let them drag you down to their own sad little world of misery where nothing can be ever good.
things were great before this weeks patch.
They implemented one ( Awesome,may i add ) dungeon where it becomes necessary to when you have reached level 10+ ? have gear with agony resist,otherwise you wont be able to make it,and you have to grind for it ..alot.Its one dungeon,should we really all cry about this ? You can still do 10lvls,you can still gain enough fracts to buy the other items while doing 1 – 10,and you are Not forced to go any higher if you dont want the legendary weap or if you dont want to grind + craft and spend an insane amount of gold.This dungeon is for the people that Are willing to do so.If you don’t then just don’t,i think its pretty simple.
No, you cannot buy the items necessary for ascended. ever. You MUST grind dungeons. If you like dungeon grinds, then have fun!
The gear is mandatory for end game content, including wvw.
You have no clue what you’re talking about. And that’s all I am going to say, LOL.
Yes, from the guy who claims that Gw1 wasn’t an MMO. Lol. Real credible.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Despite people complaining about the ascended gear being just another grind to get… you know the usual whining that people do….
By running difficulty level 2 fractals I had the item needed to craft the ascended back piece, Just from very casual play I had all of the skill points and ectos and most of the tier 6 mats needed, the rest I bought from the TP.
As for the rings, you get your first one at difficulty 10-11… I’m only on difficulty 4 atm and the dungeon itself is not difficult in comparison to other dungeons in this game and it’s actually fun and easy to find groups since everyone is doing it…
People will complain about anything, heck they even complain about handouts/free stuff that is given to them… this is definitely no exception. It doesn’t take loads of money to get this stuff, it takes playing the game the way you normally play. The only reason it’s going to take your life away or all your gold is if you’re so impatient you have to have the gear “RIGHT THIS SECOND” In which case you need to look at your own personal faults, not ArenaNet for adding something to the game.
Goodie for you. Some of us hate dungeons and will never do them. Why didn’t they make these available in wvwvw right away? It can’t be that hard. Yes, they added mandatory dungeon grinds to be competitive. thanks.
If you honestly think that the few stat increases from 3 items is going to give someone the edge or “ease” to kill you and stop you from being competitive… you must not be very good at pvp and suggest you stop.
Yes 20%+ better stats are minimal. Lol.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
oh, you and I had this argument of being forced to do something before. We aren’t going down that rabbit hole again. But I will offer up some advice…skill levels in GW can make more of a difference than raw stats.
If you feel you can’t match up to other people just because they have a ring and a back-piece that you don’t, then you may want to practice more. Because I can promise you, even once you get those things, people with last seasons exotics or rares will still kill you and it will have nothing to do with gear.
Those are just the first of many.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Goodie for you. Some of us hate dungeons and will never do them. Why didn’t they make these available in wvwvw right away? It can’t be that hard. Yes, they added mandatory dungeon grinds to be competitive. thanks.
I know they said the items could be obtained in WvW but I haven’t looked for them. Nothing has been added yet for the rings or essences? That’s really all there is to get so far and they are the only things that cant be had via trading post or charity.
No, no other way to get these other than the accursed dungeons, which I abhor. They said they’d be available in pve and WVW “over time,” whatever that means. They are forcing us through these dungeons to get the best gear, which is beyond annoying.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
It’s not actually the ‘grind’ most people disagree with.
It is the grind to advance instead of a grind ‘at your own leisure’. It’s why people mention vertical and horizontal progression. Need gear to get gear versus get gear to get other (often cosmetic) stuff.
There were people who complained about Legendaries being difficult to get; but they weren’t many. There were people complaining about WvW badge drop rate; but they weren’t many.
I’ve seen nobody complain about the grind to acquire titles from the achievement list.
It’s not the grind per se. It’s the enforced grind and what it represents and how many people have experienced it affecting other games most seem to object to.
And it’s the going back on words by ANet. The change in design philosophy.
It’s just easier to write ‘grind’ than a long explanation and most people seem to understand the difference …. except when wanting to cause argument.
Maybe your looking at it wrong? Achievements is more like reading a good book with a conclusion. Then you find out there is a sequel to the book. I look at the Achievements and figure out where to ponder in Tyria to complete my goals. Some are more repetitive, but its mostly from playing the game in a ‘normal’ sense.
Grinding is me purposely doing the same action over and over again. It’s more like me reading the back cover of a book over and over again. I did not really enjoy the book nor will I care about a sequel.
The difference is that I earn achievements by playing all contents of the game. I grind for a legendary in a specific location. I could have a legendary with 500 achievement points and not have a legendary at 15,000 achievement points.
If we hate dungeons, being forced to do them to remain competitive is a grind. sorry.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Despite people complaining about the ascended gear being just another grind to get… you know the usual whining that people do….
By running difficulty level 2 fractals I had the item needed to craft the ascended back piece, Just from very casual play I had all of the skill points and ectos and most of the tier 6 mats needed, the rest I bought from the TP.
As for the rings, you get your first one at difficulty 10-11… I’m only on difficulty 4 atm and the dungeon itself is not difficult in comparison to other dungeons in this game and it’s actually fun and easy to find groups since everyone is doing it…
People will complain about anything, heck they even complain about handouts/free stuff that is given to them… this is definitely no exception. It doesn’t take loads of money to get this stuff, it takes playing the game the way you normally play. The only reason it’s going to take your life away or all your gold is if you’re so impatient you have to have the gear “RIGHT THIS SECOND” In which case you need to look at your own personal faults, not ArenaNet for adding something to the game.
Goodie for you. Some of us hate dungeons and will never do them. Why didn’t they make these available in wvwvw right away? It can’t be that hard. Yes, they added mandatory dungeon grinds to be competitive. thanks.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
They have already stated that ascended gear will eventually be available in other places Including WvWvW. I am sure you can go through al the Dev posts and find it.
Yes “over time.” meanwhile the dungeon grinders will have it all and those of us who hate dungeons will be severely disadvantaged in wvwvw. WHy couldn’t they make it available from wvwvw from day one?? It can’t be that hard.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Just login,play the game,and see if you still like it, ( im betting you do ) >Ignore all the negativity on the forums,dont let them drag you down to their own sad little world of misery where nothing can be ever good.
things were great before this weeks patch.
They implemented one ( Awesome,may i add ) dungeon where it becomes necessary to when you have reached level 10+ ? have gear with agony resist,otherwise you wont be able to make it,and you have to grind for it ..alot.Its one dungeon,should we really all cry about this ? You can still do 10lvls,you can still gain enough fracts to buy the other items while doing 1 – 10,and you are Not forced to go any higher if you dont want the legendary weap or if you dont want to grind + craft and spend an insane amount of gold.This dungeon is for the people that Are willing to do so.If you don’t then just don’t,i think its pretty simple.
No, you cannot buy the items necessary for ascended. ever. You MUST grind dungeons. If you like dungeon grinds, then have fun!
The gear is mandatory for end game content, including wvw.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
A new tier of gear that you have to grind for, who the hell wants to WORK in a GAME? They’re supposed to be fun, and Anet promised there’d be no grind, that everyone will be equal in gear & it would be easy to obtain max gear.
Sigh, if this gets any worse, I’m out. I really hope not though, since I spent $2000 bucks on a new PC to play this game since I LOVED GW1.
i dropped 2000 bucks on a new computer just for this game too…… then 200 bucks on the collector’s edition and 100 bucks during the halloween event…
then Anet pull this kitten on me… I was really hoping that this would be a different mmo from WoW, and that it would change the direction of the future mmos by showing people you DONT need to always increase the max item stats every 3 months…
then we have this…..
LOL. Sorry to hear that. I was planning to build a new pc for this game. thankfully, before I bought the components, I saw the announcement of this disaster. stopped me from wasting $1200.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Please make your voice heard. flood all online buying sites with comments and reviews. If you don’t like this patch, say so. If they don’t sell anything over the holidays, someone will get fired and the direction will change.
. . . you know, if the game doesn’t sell, someone may get fired. (By the way, great choice, someone does deserve to lose their career because the Internet has decreed it so.) Or it could be taken as a much more severe problem with the forums busy saying the game is dying and the company is a bunch of lying liars who lie . . . and the game is axed completely.
I am not sure I like the odds here.
I do. most games aren’t retired…and if they are too thick headed to listen, then perhaps the game should be closed.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Lol, the gear will be mandatory. learn some math. 20%+ improvements to stats without the infusions. Not trivial.
Not sure where you’re getting 20%, even with the upgraded infusions, it isn’t nearly that much. You might want to check your math, sounds like you haven’t even looked at the ascended gear, let alone owned any.
Yes I have. add up the stats and divide one set’s by another. others have don’t the math too, not just me. in some cases the improvements are over 50% better.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Please make your voice heard. flood all online buying sites with comments and reviews. If you don’t like this patch, say so. If they don’t sell anything over the holidays, someone will get fired and the direction will change.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
flood all online buying sites with complaints and bad reviews. if they can’t sell anything over the holidays, someone will get fired and things will change.
Done; one-star review submitted to Amazon.co.uk, and I’ve up-voted a few other one-star reviews too.
Let’s hit them where it hurts.
viva la revolucion!
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Just login,play the game,and see if you still like it, ( im betting you do ) >Ignore all the negativity on the forums,dont let them drag you down to their own sad little world of misery where nothing can be ever good.
things were great before this weeks patch.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
North America servers have 2 full servers now, and the rest are high…. this is a dramatic change… Heck i was arguing with someone on the forum 2 weeks ago that the popluation was fine because we had 12 freaking full servers at 2 am in the morning on a tuesday night…..
There are no more normal dungeons lfg now, only fotm lvl 10 lf3m in LA…..
I don’t think i will be touching a mmorpg again…. WoW had forever changed the mmo world from gathering gears that you can keep to gathering gear just so you can dump them when new shiny come out…
many of us are on vacation this week too. bad sign indeed.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
flood all online buying sites with complaints and bad reviews. if they can’t sell anything over the holidays, someone will get fired and things will change.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Have you not already seen all the complaints about the Legendary requirements? The track to obtain a Legendary is a complete grind fest, or Black Lion Stock Trader. To get a legendary you have to do nothing… NOTHING… of what the original intent was: To explore all of Tyria. And the item was to be a progression, like a visual title. The implementation of the Legendary was a failure. I almost quit the game after I saw a video only one month after game release. It was when game designer talked about how people was now close to, or already had, their legendary. What a joke that Black Lion Stock Traders did not have to explore Tyria.
did you miss the fact that before this patch, legendaries had the EXACT same stats as did exotics? Differences were purely cosmetic. The ANET pulled a shell game. they boosted legendaries, claimed there was a terrible gap, and used that as an excuse to insert ascended gear.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Exotic gear was better than rare before ascended gear came along. Rare was better than masterwork, masterwork better than fine, fine better than normal. Nothing has changed.
Except that you can’t get ascended gear from the trading post, or with karma. Nope, nothing at all.
Except that you can, just not directly. Plus, they’ve already said they’re going to add more ways to acquire it.
When pray tell, and why not at launch of this abomination?
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
No progression=bored at endgame, move on to another game, which is what casuals tend to do anyway.
Oh, but almighty GW2 is ALL endgame, right from the get go. You love adhering to what the company says SO much so you better believe this too.
I have been playing and enjoying MMO’s that play this way for almost 2 decades. Nobody tells me how to feel what to like. I play what I like, and don’t play what I don’t like. It’s simple.
Point is, I have seen this dog and pony show many times before, and you guys and all your complaints, will never change the fact that this game will always have some form of progression, where the guy with the uber stuff has an advantage on those who don’t. So go get your uber stuff so you can be viable, or be like me and don’t bother, just play how you want, and when you do beat someone who out gears you, you can then know the bliss that I play for.
Go underdogs. Down with bland arcade predictable variable-less mindless gameplay.
You love gear grinds, why did you buy this game again? Or am I to believe you bought this game last week?
and LMFAO. Ascended gear does NOTHING to change the gameplay. It ticks your numbers up a notch. NO new effects. Agony is a simple on off switch. At least WoW’s gear treadmill was actually GOOD.
yeah at least 20% better is insignificant. chuckle. that’s before infusion which have their own stats, and before the gear inflation to come. But, nope not significant. Lol.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
MMO’s are based on “more effort, more reward”
Stop trying to destroy a perfectly good MMO with the constant whining that all should be equal.
Stop trying to destroy a perfectly good MMO with the constant whining that you deserve better stats because you have more free time.
+1
Look most of us have lives. So making it more towards the folks that can spend 6+hrs playing everyday is ubserd.
The only happy people are with those with to much time on their hands. As for the rest of us…
MMO’s aren’t made for casuals in mind, by design, not even this one. Nothing new here why are ppl surprised?
GW1 was.
But there is no debate, just fact.
GW1 wasn’t an MMO, it was listed as a co opRPG with some multiplayer tacked on. The actual game world was instanced, and you only seen other players who were in your group, no one else. Basically the game was hardly massive, and was more a giant dungeon, for your group.
GW2, is an MMO, and MMO players expect progression, casuals don’t want it. But by definition, MMO’s are timesinks, and not designed for casuals.
Who says it wasnt an mmo? MMO = massive multiplayer online? it’s your convenient opinion to dismiss it as not an mmo, lol. NO Facts are involved, lol.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
You know, having such an anger-attack over gear that is only slightly better than what’s already out makes little sense. The game already has a gear treadmill, now it just also has an endgame.
The most confusing part of all of this complaining has been the idea that if you don’t get to have exactly what you want, you’re going to go onto review sites and try to ruin the game so that no one else has any fun either. You complain about the psychology of selfishness that gear gating represents, but then you choose to break away from the community you purport to defend and try and ruin it for everyone.
I don’t know what’s more difficult to understand – behaving this way over a few optional added features that are a miniscule difference in comparison to what’s already in the game, or making threads about how you’re going to “review bomb” the game and assuming no one’s going to point out to these sites that this is going on.
I want to be avenged for being wronged. Try some math, these aren’t optional.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
MMO’s are based on “more effort, more reward”
Stop trying to destroy a perfectly good MMO with the constant whining that all should be equal.
Stop trying to destroy a perfectly good MMO with the constant whining that you deserve better stats because you have more free time.
+1
Look most of us have lives. So making it more towards the folks that can spend 6+hrs playing everyday is ubserd.
The only happy people are with those with to much time on their hands. As for the rest of us…
MMO’s aren’t made for casuals in mind, by design, not even this one. Nothing new here why are ppl surprised?
GW1 was.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Wow lets nerf thief into oblivion, never mind we have crappy ranged ao or attacks period, we have no pets to help, heals are a joke, and defense is non existent compared to other melee classes. We get stealth which is only partly as good as I’ve seen in other games, and some burst melee damage that can be countered or interrupted easily enough.
TBH Thief is now the lamest class to play, I’m thinking anet should offer class switch in the BLT with coins so I can play ele or mes and cast stuff up on top of keep walls, while those thievs with short bows can’t do anything to you.
For the most part thief is starting to suck more and more to play, yet people continually cry for more and more nerfs to cool downs ect.
I think people just freak out about any class that can go invisible on them, this is all this really is about. They can’t see you and it freaks them out so it should be nerfed.
lol. nice try. they can still achieve perma stealth. come back once that’s fixed (culling bug).
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Well.. their other way of basing their purchase of this game was to try that free demo, which ran for the length of Lost Shores.. I’m pretty sure good ol’ buggy Lost Shores said more negative about the game than an Amazon review ever could. So.. why are we worried about Amazon reviews again? :P
I dunno.
Because this guy seems to think that GW2 dropping by a portion of a star on ONE purchasing website is somehow significant and will lead to a radical shift in the number of people buying the game.
Because, for some reason, people still think that review-bombing a game is meaningful, when in fact by the time a review-bomb has been properly organized, it’s usually far too late to have any significant negative effects on the company’s income.
I agree with you, frankly. That’s why I hope they’ll learn from this event and get better.
Lol. Who said anything about stars. It’s the venom from the pages that will get people’s attention, lol.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
