Guild Wars 2

hybrids where do they fit in

i couldn’t find anything decent yet…

ButterOfDeath.2873:

Wyrden.4713:

i love spamming skill 3 on d/p for an unknown reason..

Me too…looks self at mirror

me too…<_<

Obsidia.5127:

I don’t even care about the LBs anymore. I just want to be up against other decent players again…

^^this… i feel like whenever you get higher mmr you are just facing bots fighting bots~

maybe anet should just split them and make 2 leaderboards:
- old one
- farming one for pve bots

Is there anything constructive in OP’s post? It has nothing to do neither with pvp system nor class balance~

the only flaw i see with it is that might is very low on priority list for boon removal so it will mostlikely never (unless necro uses corrupt) get “blocked” … however might is one of the main factors defining current meta imo

in generall i do like the idea althrough it might be huge hit on guardians

Booms.2594:

Zypher.9536:

Randomly came across this post just now and I’m wondering, has anything been implemented to fix this by now or is it still an issue?

standardized models lol.

(only works in ranked)

actually devs play all kind of classes hence why i don’t understand their posession with engis (based on patches for the past year or so)

back to thread, either passives/cele and co. need some nerf or boon stripping abilities need some buffing

how to play an engi

Grump.7069:

class W/L ratios
build W/L ratios
most picked class
least picked class

For yourself you have these…what point is there to give the numbers overall? You should feel for yourself what class you fare best with, not follow the fotm. Cause that’s a problem that often repeated itself in WoW.

People will reroll fotm regardless charts or not. I just want to see those statistics and wondering why in gw2 they are not available.

Don’t want to be too mean here but let’s face it: current leaderboards basically shows whoever got better bot running ranked 24/7. The proof is pretty obvious too as certain current “top” of the players has to be botting because his character just runs same route every match from respawn to the same spot and doesn’t even fight back if you actually catch them mid of their “route”.

At this point i would rather have old leaderboards where players actually were awarded for wins and not for how many matches you farmed (no matter results)~

What is the point of doing ranked now? You get similar reward for unranked. Leaderboards were only difference and now it is just bot fest zzzzz.

WTB old system or some improvement to ranking system that would be more based on wins than amount of games played.

Inb4: omg they want ranking to show off and what not. Maybe so. My personal issue is that you don’t even get decent teammates or decent enemies anymore if you actually play plenty of ranked. If you get up there, there is mostly brainless bots running and games are not fun.

Udai.7805:

All I see is tears from people who prefer crying over trying to counterplay better & trying to adjust to the metagame and wish to be competitive but fail at doing so.

not everyone enjoys hybrid tank staring at hybrid tank for 15 min playstyle, punching dummy is probably more exciting than current gameplay… except meta forces you into that garbage

i run pretty much same build as i run in pvp, caed’s d/p trickery except with 2 in SA

zerker gear, zerker weps… can throw some valk in it but food/wvw stacks usually cover surival stats anyway… that is ofc if you are decent on thief since build is pretty glassy

Would you mind to post statistics that are usually available in such games like LoL or WoW:
class W/L ratios
build W/L ratios
most picked class
least picked class
kills, assists etc.?

well gentelmen based on past experience it is safe to assume that
1. we will see some changes in spring probably
2. they won’t change anything that would remotely nerf engis

Good thieves prevail, bad thieves rerolled engis/eles/wars or anything really that runs current meta (aka celestial might stacking crap).

Too much effort to play one when you can drool on keyboard as cele ele and collect points. Thieves by itself are not bad the current meta just favors other classes/builds, besides you don’t want more than 1 thief on team.

Obviously consistent nerfs every single patch are not exactly big motivation for playing the class.

reallllyyy in need of good engi and/or mesmer~~~

1) ranger – because most of them run brainless rapid fire build and never cap anything, nor rez anyone, nor stomp, nor decap… all they ever do is sit on ledge and pew pew
2) thieves… because i main thief myself and more thieves on team decreases win chances by a lot

Not sure why people hate mesmers, if you coordinate burst with mesmer you can keep entire team at spawn all match + portal bombs is not something to laugh at. Then again it seems like in current meta people enjoy sitting afk on tanky hybrid and stare at other tanky hybrids~

What about bunker guards that do their job but usually end up with low amount of points?

still need necros, engi, mes…

Too many teefs maybe? lol

W – 1st weapon skill
Q – 2nd~
E – 3rd~
1 – 4th
S – 5th
^ – weapon swap (note, on german keyboard ^ is located next to 1, i think it is where ` is on american layout)
stow weapon – mouse key 7

C – heal
2 – inf. signet
3- shadow step
4 – refuge
alt + W – basi

X – steal
F- dodge
V – interract/stomp

alt +q – look back

F1 – set target
F2 – take target

default targetting
moving with mouse
strafe default A/D
R – auto run

leaderboards – measure of how efficient is your bot at farming ranked 24/7 :/

Edit: WTB good mesmer~~~~

Hello everyone,

seeing as there are very few teams out there and quite few players looking for one i decided to start one myself.

General requirements/preferences:
- be open minded (i am starting a team and it will require certain patience/commitment)
- 1000+ ranked games played
- know rotations, own class etc.
- be available around 8-12 pm CET
- 18+ year old…
- mic/ts

Classes/builds list:
- celestal ele
- shout war
- engineer
- mesmer
- necro
- bunker guard

In generall all classes welcome for try outs, if you are good at it.

Builds are open for discussion. At the moment i am looking to build a core group first.

I don’t expect members to be on every day but at least on practice day (mostlikely weekends/friday).

Prefered language is english. German (as i live in Germany myself) is welcome however if teammates happend to be from different countries we will stick to english~

As side info: i love pvp(been pvping in pretty much every mmo i played before) and joined this game only for pvp althrough i spent fair amount of time in fractals/wvw, i have been around top 100-300 on NA before i moved to EU servers, main thief <3

For any questions either post here or send me mail in game.

Thanks~

ImNotRyan.5319:

Dude I know your pain.. Just not much PvP teams about.. its annoying

ehh at this point i might start my own team tbh

turret engi camps my home, i camp his… problem?

this game needs tutorial with match vs AI

Zephyron.7081:

Hahahahaha! Learn to play the maps! Noob move, but that is okay because we all start somewhere and the forums are here to help.

dat attitude~

i quit game for few months, came back, needed practice…duhh

Chase.8415:

Cynz.9437:

this game needs better tutorials

Wouldn’t make a difference, because people don’t even read the screen now.

true enough :/

this game needs better tutorials

kdizzle.9587:

^yea i understand that but if the MMR system was working as intended i would eventually go up against a team in which the team i was on had a close game, but it hasnt been like that.

because community is small and game looks for next best fit which results in lopsided matches

if we had divisions and actually big community it probably wouldn’t be such an issue

all you can do is to assume that 4 people on your team are bots and carry them harder hehe

Zietlogik.6208:

or they could just make /stuck kill you, or /kill

that would automatically give enemy team 5 pts :/

besides dmg it lacks utility/defensives/mobility… not to mention that every class in this game has more range than p/p thief – GL getting in range w/o moblity while they pew pew at you

another problem is while p/p by itself isn’t great the pistol combos with other weapons are; if they buffed p/p in some way it would just cause p/d or d/p being too good

kdizzle.9587:

even in 5v5 the games have been really lopsided. I tend to score pretty high on either team but as a whole we get steamrolled. /sigh

personal score is not what wins game, issue is mostly behind teams capping points and never defending them

because people would abuse /stuck to get behind walls etc. in wvw, happend in other games

kdizzle.9587:

I was 1v2ing just fine i didnt really have any trouble killing anyone who came at me. The 4v5 made things next to impossible but at least 3/9 games have been 4v5. I dont mind losing if the game is somewhat close but games have not been even remotely close.

ah that… i think it has something to do with the bug…
currently if you queue up you get randomly kicked from queue…
also if you DC from match you might not be able to come back
also, sometimes ppl get queue popped mid match and accept it

we are all plagued by 4v5, you are not alone hehe

Well basically the way the game feels (for me at least) is that you have to be able to 1v3 if you want to win any match..

I have won matches if could do it (or at least stale 3 enemies for very long time)… i lost pretty much every single match where i wasn’t capable to handle multiple enemies at the same time by myself…. reason? Whole team rushes far ans keeps dying there whole match. EVERY SINGLE GAME… unless i queue with someone.

I really wish this game had better tutorials or something :/

2700~ games, i sinned however and played something else besides teef ._.

Justin ODell.9517:

Nighthawk.4687:

But now after this new matchmaking system we have literally lost all but like 5 of our games.

Are you trolling me?

Here are your results going back to the last update (16th), and counting only matches were you were in a party.

32 wins, 30 losses, 5 desertions
- or -
33 wins and 34 losses if you go by team result

I can’t tell which ones are guild parties vs parties with other players, though. And you did hit a dry spell there for a bit. So let me know if you are still having issues.

tell me what’s up with my matchmaking for past few days since i transfered to eu…

i would loooooveeee to know why either they were 4v5 or extremely one sided

baamppperito+15 charzookas

thieves are not issues, it is celestial might stacking meta allowing bunkerish classes still do too much dmg while having silly amount of healing and tankiness overall

looking at the past patches, i doubt anything would change in ANY positive direction for thieves, ever… however everyone is already fed up with current “cheese” so maybe anet will listen for once and change meta a bit overall

Style.1092:

In 2 games that I won today i was disconnected. In both matches i come back and of course helped in winning.
But at the end i lost 2pt for each match, yes ? So, it means that in total i lost 6pt. This is so much frustrating!!!
Why can you ad check at the end of match whether player is present and gained points and has same class as at the beginning ? If conditions are fulfilled player receive normal points instead being punished for desertion.

BTW i didn’t lost communication on TS during those matches so, it wasn’t my internet connection problem.

same here, quite annying in fact…especially when game simply crashes and doesn’t DC

The Gates Assassin.9827:

Chaith.8256:

Question to people that hate the Cele bruiser meta. Why? Can anyone please articulate their thoughts on the toxicity of Cele bruisers for the enjoyment of the game.

I didn’t read the rest of this post, but screw it. Here’s my reasons why I hate this meta:

1. It Minimalizes Working Builds – No one plays bunker guardian. Why? Did it get weaker? No. We just gained the ability to have builds that work in pretty much every situation. The teamwork factor that comes with proper rotations is gone. It’s just about matching numbers and being a better cele. There are no “jobs” anymore. I don’t make a build with the intend of a single goal like bursting, support or bunkering, I make a build with the intent of being able to do everything.
2. Certain aspects of play are gone – Rotating the right stuff to the right place has turned into just matching numbers. Watching out for bursts is pretty much gone. It’s just outsustain right now. You might go for a focus fire, but that’s not really the same thing. Stomps are also pretty rare now, especially in team fights. No bunker guardian made it so players are pretty much only going for DPS outs, even against things like warriors! DPSing out a target isn’t really that interesting to me. The play of trying to maintain DPS so you can get a stomp off is a lot more interesting.
3. Mobility isn’t a counter – These comps play on all three points. They’re pretty kitten fast too unless you’re taking a necromancer. Thief, ele and engi are all really fast.
4. They’re really hard to duel against – It’s not about getting a good burst off, it’s about getting multiple bursts off while not letting them even get one. If I want to kill a cele engi on power nades, I’ve found that I need anywhere from 2-4 really good bursts to get them down. In a row. They really only need to maintain pressure via burning and occasionally get a few hits in.
5. It DOES take less skill – Is the skill ceiling still high? Yes. There are a lot of things you can do with cele engi and ele to make yourself the best in the world. But the punishment for kittening those things up is WAY lower than most builds. On burst builds, kittening up, having bad positioning or focusing the wrong guy could equal death. Don’t even get me started on 100 mines and other like yolo builds.
6. Burning On Cele is Dumb – This goes a bit beyond cele, but I think it’s a big reason why it works. Engineer has incendiary powder which is really hard to avoid. Ele has drake’s breath which requires two dodges to fully avoid and burns you for eternity (12s on a 6s recharge). Combustive Shot burns everyone. If you miss with this, uninstall GW2.
7. Sustain is really hard to stop – For warrior, it’s healing signet which they never use and traits that regen them. For engineer, it’s a 1/2 cast time skill, backpack regenerator and transmute. For ele, it’s a dodge in water, small healing on all casts, regeneration and two skills you can actually interrupt. The only real good counter is poison, but they remove it so much that you need a crazy amount of poison to do it!
8. Games going to Timer – Because there’s three decaps almost all the time, it’s boring to play and watch. I vastly prefer the super active fights where doing something wrong can spell death, not a slight loss in health. I want people to be making PLAYS, not just trying to stall the game/fights. “OH SNAP HE JUST GOT THE BURST OFF AND HE GOES DOWN” instead of “OH SNAP HE JUST GOT THE BURST OFF AND I THINK IF HE CAN GET LIKE 4 MORE IN THE NEXT 10 SECONDS WE MIGHT SEE SOMEONE DIE”.
9. In the ideal game, every build is equally viable – Cele is a meta right now. People want to play their style of builds and not be worse off for it.
   
   The concept of a build being able to do everything is broken. It’s called “Holes in Roles”. There are no decently enough sized holes in these builds.

Great post, couldn’t word it better. Thank you.

happend to me too today, no inet issues just game… me and someone on enemy team DCd like that

i support this… i don’t watch any streams anymore for that very reason… it is extremely boring

aaand first match of the day is 4v5 again…. cmoooon

give ppl 1-2 weeks of bann for such crap plz ty

close up of personal project i started today, thought i would share

So how many 4v5 and 3v5 do i have to play untill matchmaking system is satisfied? It feels like every second game is 4v5 wth?

bamp + 15 charrzookas