Guild Wars 2

I consider condition removal traits that simply remove conditions, we do not have any traits like this.

I didn’t lie, you simply misunderstood what I wanted to say.

Leo G.4501:

Daecollo.9578:

@Leo
I am already, however I am still at least trying to get warriors fixed. Its not like I wasted 130 Laurels on him already…

Sure, it’s commendable to try to improve where improvements are needed. But through lies, slander, misrepresentation and incessant complaining? No one needs that kind of help.

You’d be doing everyone and yourself a favor by just playing Guardian and being amazing at it.

Brutalistik.6473:

I still don’t think that is a good reason for warriors to not have a good condition removal system and let alone protection boons. Warriors can get burst down easily with reapplied condition builds quick like a thief or mesmer, but worst.

It’s a debate to be sure. Improvements could definitely be made to the profession to give it options to combat certain tactics to a degree…but not every profession has available a build to counter every kind of tactic.

Lies?

RoyHarmon.5398:

Why?

Why do you want a nerf?

I don’t think I understand this at all. In what way would it be better?

Its to powerful atm. Lemongrass + Runes + Traits = Immune to some conditions, food should not be that powerful.

@Leo
I am already, however I am still at least trying to get warriors fixed. Its not like I wasted 130 Laurels on him already…

Leo G.4501:

Daecollo.9578:

@*V*
I play a necromancer and I play a ranger as well. I can put 7 stacks of bleeds on you almost immediately after you cure them while raining poison over you with other things like constant pulsing fire traps.

Your condition removal is burst, therefore it does nothing against my condition damage, I will immediately reapply it after.

The beauty of the guardian’s condition removal is he turns it into boons to counter the conditions and damage that happen afterwords, while passively removing the applied conditions every 10 seconds. Meanwhile…

YEAH YOU USE MENDING… now your out a heal for 25 seconds… now your dieing…
SHRUG IT OFF! … Shortbow ranger, 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 stacks of bleeding 3 seconds later.

You keep bringing up Guardians.

Guardians have good condition removal because they have the lowest base health. Considering 6 stacks of bleed is around 640ish damage per second, after 5 seconds, that’s 3200 HP or 1/3 of a Guardian’s base HP. In the same scenario, that’s practically 1/6 the HP of a Warrior.

They have better stat allocation, they get more bang for there buck because all there best stats are in trees they want them to be in, unlike us with our traits all over. BRAWN does absolutely nothing for us and we require it to get boon hate, that is -300 in stats alone.

Greatsword warriors don’t use condition damage, it simply does not benefit them much since they only get bleeds 33% of the time on criticals, its about 3% of there total damage, that is another -250 in stats.

Please think a little before you post.

I mean, look at the monster that is there toughness tree: … 30% critical damage AND toughness with altruistic healing and purity? Purity should be a grandmaster trait.

In my opinion, critical food was way over-nerfed. -40% condition duration was more powerful then and now its ridiculous and mostly the main thing people use now.

Please change the critical food to ONLY be able to proc 3 times per second, this makes it a little better but not worthless at it is now.

Change the -duration of the Bowl of Lemongrass Poultry Soup from -40% to -25% and change the vitality it gives from 70 to 140.

Scoobaniec.9561:

Fine, then stop complains

I’m complaining because the trait sucks as it is now, not worth the points.

@*V*
I play a necromancer and I play a ranger as well. I can put 7 stacks of bleeds on you almost immediately after you cure them while raining poison over you with other things like constant pulsing fire traps.

Your condition removal is burst, therefore it does nothing against my condition damage, I will immediately reapply it after.

The beauty of the guardian’s condition removal is he turns it into boons to counter the conditions and damage that happen afterwords, while passively removing the applied conditions every 10 seconds. Meanwhile…

YEAH YOU USE MENDING… now your out a heal for 25 seconds… now your dieing…
SHRUG IT OFF! … Shortbow ranger, 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 stacks of bleeding 3 seconds later.

Low opportunity cost is why it fails.

Tetra Bug.7134:

Seriously. We have pretty decent condition removal if you trait for it. No profession gets free condition removal, there is some trait expenditure involved in getting condition removal in all classes. Stop whining about conditions and learn to build for them.

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/guardian/?3.0|0.0.0.0.0.0|0.0.0.0.0.0|0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0|0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0|0.u25c.u51b.5.5|0.0|v.1b.18.12.0|e

Remove 3 conditions every 10 seconds (some times its 2 every 5, one every 10), able to convert all conditions into boons. Perma Vigor. Draw all conditions to you (helping your party!) and then turn all those conditions into more boons.

Constantly removing boons passively, all of them, and then if your in an emergency able to convert them (converting the boons allows you to pretty much counter more boons which are incoming.)

This isn’t the Guardian class I know, however they can trait to be almost completely immune to boons and if you look at the trash traits we get to remove ours, I would trade all of them for just Purity alone.

Warrior is an absolute joke, I won’t even bother going into elementalist, before they were nerfed they could become completely immune to conditions if they played a sylvari.

Bottom line, warriors need better condition removal that doesn’t rely on gimmicks and healing, it should be self sustained and based off our class mechanic adrenaline, this is why I offered the trait indomitable.

To make this trait, combine “Missile Deflection” and “Shield Mastery” into a single trait. Just call that “Shield Mastery” and move that down.

Grandmaster: Indomitable
Each time you get a bar of adrenaline, you convert one condition into a boon.

Scoobaniec.9561:

Its bs idea as u pitting everyone into pure zerks build to have any sustain. If sustain defense line olny, and tactic for little highter team ones. This trait should bypassing protection and get down to 2% per boon, nothing less, nothing more

A trait should not completely bypass a boon.

Veritas.6071:

Daecollo.9578:

Yamsandjams.3267:

Blackhat.4016:

The idea is good but the numbers are too high.

You can’t expect to destroy several builds by using one trait (even if it’s a Grandmaster trait).

Well, you can expect it, but it doesn’t mean it’s a good expectation.

And base healing of 69?

Its the same as altruistic healing, which can heal for the same amount, however it depends how many boons you get, this is more of an offensive version.

It’s just too strong, man. I know you miss Omnomberry Pie, but it’s safe to assume any idea stronger than the pie was, which this idea is, doesn’t have a chance.

Any idea has a chance, maybe not a strong one, however it has a chance.

Yamsandjams.3267:

Blackhat.4016:

The idea is good but the numbers are too high.

You can’t expect to destroy several builds by using one trait (even if it’s a Grandmaster trait).

Well, you can expect it, but it doesn’t mean it’s a good expectation.

And base healing of 69?

Its the same as altruistic healing, which can heal for the same amount, however it depends how many boons you get, this is more of an offensive version.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Defense-Grandmaster-Trait-Indomitable/page/2#post2092358

Destruction of the Empowered
Deal 5% bonus damage per unique boon on your target.
Each time you hit the target, heal yourself for each boon he has.
(At level 80, the amount healed per boon is 49 + 0.01 * Healing Power.)

Example:
If your target has 3 unique boons, each hit will heal you for 150.
This would allow warriors to have an Anti-Bunker Role in SPVP/PVP, but not overpower them in PvE, because most mobs do not have boons except bosses.

Most mobs, trash mobs don’t even have boons, so in PvE they would not gain a bunker increase.

Its not vitality that needs buffed, its toughness.

There is no reason having 3k toughness should be almost the same as having ONE boon: Protection.

evilapprentice.6379:

sorrow.2364:

evilapprentice.6379:

The point isn’t “you can always dodge it”. No one dodges infinitely. The point is that the skill isn’t instant cast or a very quick cast (like .25s), and it has a fairly distinctive animation (IE, if a Sword MH thief pulls his arm back, you know for sure its a skill you probably want to dodge). You always know when the skill is coming.

Yes, Inf strike is an option, but at the cost of 3 init – 5 if they have to clean up an SR to gain access to IS again. When you consider that you need to spend 3 init for FS every time you want to LS and at minimum another 3 init for IS (if they don’t have SR up) it’s a reasonable combo, rather than something a thief can spam endlessly.

Something nobody mentioned is that LS is incredibly similiar animation-wise to the 3rd sword autoattack and, you know, nobody wants to dodge the autoattack.
Also, consider that arm animations are fairly hard to notice, expecially if the Thief is an Asura which has a model 70% smaller than any character, which bring us to another flaw of this game.

What are you saving your dodge for, FS? DD? Most S/D thieves at this point don’t bother with CnD (outside of interrupting a stomp), since without SA, the stealth doesn’t offer much, and its costs 6 init for crap damage.

Do explain why you wouldn’t want to dodge a swing that does nearly the same damage as LS, and carries cripple and weakness with it, especially since another complaint in the thread is that most thieves would use IS to ensure the LS strike. Crippling strike and LS are the only skills worth dodging/attempting to interrupt with CC in the current “Wah, spam 3 more noob” meta.

Oh, and I mentioned specifically that the animations were identical. Its actually right in the post you quoted. Additionally, any animation is hard to see with an Asura – that’s a poor design move by Anet that’s true across every class and ability.

Your crazy, I use C/D to cure conditions/heal up, switch to dagger and backstab, then black powder and heartseeker into them again.

This is for open world, its meant to be slower like keg brawls, other things.

Duel
1v1: Fights are slower to make fights more epic.
1 Each player/pet/minion takes 50% less damage/condition damage.
2 No downed state, when the player is downed he is defeated.

Brawl
Group vs Group: Fights are slower to make fights more epic.
1 Each player/pet/minion takes 50% less damage/conditon damage.
2 No downed state, when a player is downed, he is defeated and out of the fight. When all the group is defeated the other group wins. It would be very team oriented, losing one teammate makes you 4/5 less effective in a brawl.

This would be like super smash brothers, could have cool fights in epic places, like the giant bridge in Caledon, and be awesome for role-play.

Cast Epidemic under your feet when you enter death shroud. (Cooldown: 10s.)

Evning.8495:

Daecollo.9578:

mercenarynox.1695:

Doggie.3184:

Evning.8495:

I did not know this was an issue..

But now that you mention it..

I actually like the puffed out look, will be really sad if it got fixed per the demands of the majority.. Sigh…

The hell?

…. Well you can’t please everyone! But for all of us who play Sylvari and prefer not to have hoop skirts, let’s get this fixed.

It looks horrible as it is now. :/

Well, I am not going to knock down the majority for my petty preferences, but i always found that sylvari males somehow look better then other males, and now that I understand this problem, I understand that I always prefer the way clothes look on sylvari males.
The way coats frames the slender sylvari, the way they flow, and rest, i see it as making the sylvari look elegant and graceful. To me its a hallmark, rather then a bad thing.

So this is a good thing?
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Please-fix-Male-Sylvari-Coats-Skirts/first#post2097238

Guardian Hammer 1 gives perma protection/can heal you for up to 1k.

Brutalistik.6473:

Rangers, Necros and Engineers also have high health pools too. Warriors got them beat by an extra 3k hp I believe if wearing Knight Amulet.

Rangers, Necros, Engineers have better stat allocation.

Necromancers have condition damage (there main thing.) in there precision tree which is also really nice.

Rangers have there trees mostly where they need them, they waste no points on anything, almost everything they get is helpful.

Engineers (I haven’t played them so I can’t say for sure until I do.)

Warriors have points all over the place.
Precision/Condition Damage? Why?

Leo G.4501:

Daecollo.9578:

Leo G.4501:

Daecollo.9578:

When its combined to other large ways to remove conditions it adds up.

The same can be said for Warrior traits too.

Please post a video proving your point.

What? That Warriors can remove conditions?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbgVQ7LTYL0

I haven’t seen such a awesome display of players in such a long time, thank you for that video.

Its like they didn’t even know how to play. :>

Incoming: Guardians have less hp!

((Of course, I will just tell you why this just does not matter because they have better trees therefore better stat allocation! Also the fact they have PROTECTION and Signet of Judgement which reduces damage significantly.))

Destruction of the Empowered
Deal 5% bonus damage per unique boon on your target.
Each time you hit the target, heal yourself for each boon he has.
(At level 80, the amount healed per boon is 69 + 0.01 * Healing Power.)

Example:
If your target has 3 unique boons, each hit will heal you for 207. This would allow warriors to have an Anti-Bunker Role in SPVP/PVP, but not overpower them in PvE, because most mobs do not have boons except bosses/champions/golds.

FIX BRAWN, NERF HUNDRED BLADES (It does way too much damage, Warrior damage needs TONED DOWN and needs to be more survivable and the damage less avoided, this means it needs to be FASTER :<)

Leo G.4501:

Daecollo.9578:

When its combined to other large ways to remove conditions it adds up.

The same can be said for Warrior traits too.

Please post a video proving your point.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Destruction_of_the_Empowered
Deal 3% bonus damage per boon on your target.
I suppose a change to this.

Destruction of the Empowered
Deal 5% bonus damage per unique boon on your target.
Each time you hit the target, heal yourself for each boon he has.
(At level 80, the amount healed per boon is 69 + 0.01 * Healing Power.)

Example:
If your target has 3 unique boons, each hit will heal you for 207.

This would allow warriors to have an Anti-Bunker Role in SPVP/PVP, but not overpower them in PvE, because most mobs do not have boons except bosses.

Leo G.4501:

Daecollo.9578:

Leo G.4501:

Daecollo.9578:

Veritas.6071:

Daecollo.9578:

Veritas.6071:

Daecollo.9578:

…also the fact we lack ANY forms of condition removal in our traits/trees.

YA!… well other than:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Restorative_Strength
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dogged_March
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shrug_It_Off
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Quick_Breathing
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mobile_Strikes

Restorative Strength isn’t worth 10 points, it has to long of a CD and relies on using a HEALING spell. Other classes cure conditions from simply dodging, using a spell, or waiting every 10 seconds.

Dogged March, sure its nice… but what kills us most is Poison>Bleeding>Fire, in that order.

Shrug it Off: You would take this trait over lowering all shouts by 20% Or Quick breathing?

Quick Breathing: You can’t choose what you want to remove, warhorn skills have to long of a cool-down for it to be viable, and it relies on a weapon and using buffs when you don’t want to, to be honest it should convert 2 boons instead of 1.

Mobile Strikes: This is just worthless, it doesn’t stop the most common things like cripple/chill.

I wasn’t aware those didn’t count as, “ANY” form of condition removal.

“Cures a condition when you X.”

Restorative Strength, buddy.

That only heals movement based conditions. Dogged March is almost 100x better in every single way. That trait really isn’t worth its weight.

Its absolutely nothing compared to example like:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Purity

Couple it with Mending. Mending recharges faster and will remove 2 conditions after Restorative Strength. There are only 2 non-damaging conditions then left to cover you from removing those damaging conditions: Blind and Vulnerability. Meaning someone has to time their blinds with your heal instead of your attacks or vulnerability to stop you from removing 2 damaging conditions.

Now you’re complaining about not having the game auto-drop a single condition every 10 sec when you can have a skill fully cleanse you every 25sec. You’d be arguing preference since waiting 10sec to remove bleeding then 10 more seconds to remove poison IF you don’t have other conditions like Weakness or Chill in the way at the time is ultimately inferior to cleansing all conditions on command when you need to heal.

When its combined to other large ways to remove conditions it adds up.

Leo G.4501:

Daecollo.9578:

Veritas.6071:

Daecollo.9578:

Veritas.6071:

Daecollo.9578:

…also the fact we lack ANY forms of condition removal in our traits/trees.

YA!… well other than:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Restorative_Strength
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dogged_March
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shrug_It_Off
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Quick_Breathing
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mobile_Strikes

Restorative Strength isn’t worth 10 points, it has to long of a CD and relies on using a HEALING spell. Other classes cure conditions from simply dodging, using a spell, or waiting every 10 seconds.

Dogged March, sure its nice… but what kills us most is Poison>Bleeding>Fire, in that order.

Shrug it Off: You would take this trait over lowering all shouts by 20% Or Quick breathing?

Quick Breathing: You can’t choose what you want to remove, warhorn skills have to long of a cool-down for it to be viable, and it relies on a weapon and using buffs when you don’t want to, to be honest it should convert 2 boons instead of 1.

Mobile Strikes: This is just worthless, it doesn’t stop the most common things like cripple/chill.

I wasn’t aware those didn’t count as, “ANY” form of condition removal.

“Cures a condition when you X.”

Restorative Strength, buddy.

That only heals movement based conditions. Dogged March is almost 100x better in every single way. That trait really isn’t worth its weight.

Its absolutely nothing compared to example like:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Purity

When you make a spell you have to know of Opportunity cost as well as all that. That heal makes you use your MAIN heal to do so. If you wanted to use it to cure a condition you sacrifice your ‘6’ ability to do so, when you may have not even needed to heal, or didn’t need to at the right time.

Veritas.6071:

Daecollo.9578:

Veritas.6071:

Daecollo.9578:

…also the fact we lack ANY forms of condition removal in our traits/trees.

YA!… well other than:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Restorative_Strength
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dogged_March
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shrug_It_Off
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Quick_Breathing
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mobile_Strikes

Restorative Strength isn’t worth 10 points, it has to long of a CD and relies on using a HEALING spell. Other classes cure conditions from simply dodging, using a spell, or waiting every 10 seconds.

Dogged March, sure its nice… but what kills us most is Poison>Bleeding>Fire, in that order.

Shrug it Off: You would take this trait over lowering all shouts by 20% Or Quick breathing?

Quick Breathing: You can’t choose what you want to remove, warhorn skills have to long of a cool-down for it to be viable, and it relies on a weapon and using buffs when you don’t want to, to be honest it should convert 2 boons instead of 1.

Mobile Strikes: This is just worthless, it doesn’t stop the most common things like cripple/chill.

I wasn’t aware those didn’t count as, “ANY” form of condition removal.

“Cures a condition when you X.”

Veritas.6071:

Daecollo.9578:

…also the fact we lack ANY forms of condition removal in our traits/trees.

YA!… well other than:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Restorative_Strength
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dogged_March
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shrug_It_Off
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Quick_Breathing
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mobile_Strikes

Restorative Strength isn’t worth 10 points, it has to long of a CD and relies on using a HEALING spell. Other classes cure conditions from simply dodging, using a spell, or waiting every 10 seconds.

Dogged March, sure its nice… but what kills us most is Poison>Bleeding>Fire, in that order.

Shrug it Off: You would take this trait over lowering all shouts by 20% Or Quick breathing?

Quick Breathing: You can’t choose what you want to remove, warhorn skills have to long of a cool-down for it to be viable, and it relies on a weapon and using buffs when you don’t want to, to be honest it should convert 2 boons instead of 1.

Mobile Strikes: This is just worthless, it doesn’t stop the most common things like cripple/chill.

When another classes trait out-heals our ‘6’ ability then someone needs to take a look at our class in general, also the fact we lack ANY forms of condition removal in our traits/trees.

You are a top group, however one of your members left for ooc problems, you have 2 choices to bring to your next tournament, what do you bring?

Warrior

Ranger’s Pet

It has the same damage as sword auto-attack.

Laii.2780:

Oni Link.4621:

• Dolyak Singet: Change active effect to Protection for 10 s. Change name into “Signet of Defense” (dolyak is “off-topic”).

It would be nice if they jus made the DolySig the same as Guardians SoJ, atm its only half the reduction guardian gets ; ;~

If you have a lot of toughness already its about 1/4.

mercenarynox.1695:

Doggie.3184:

Evning.8495:

I did not know this was an issue..

But now that you mention it..

I actually like the puffed out look, will be really sad if it got fixed per the demands of the majority.. Sigh…

The hell?

…. Well you can’t please everyone! But for all of us who play Sylvari and prefer not to have hoop skirts, let’s get this fixed.

It looks horrible as it is now. :/

All Traits being a tough choice and not be optional/stupid.

It should be like this:
Hammer has control.
Greatsword has damage/mobility.

Take the control part, add damage and make the attacks less able to be dodged or completely avoided, WALA a new nice weapon!

For there traits to be on-par with other classes for survivability/damage/removing conditions/boons.

Nerf Flanking Strike

Changes After
Cloak and Dagger now costs 5 initiative.
Dancing Dagger now does 200% more damage. (back to what it was.)
Flanking Strike now costs less initiative and the evade duration is double.
Mug now criticals again.

I hope they change or fix healing signet and add more to the warrior soon.

Then you compare Warrior Traits to ranger ones and realize the warrior class is a complete joke.

They don’t have time to balance anything it seems/

Ranger pet goes above warrior.

sorrow.2364:

Daecollo.9578:

This skill is FINE.

I would rather fix Necromancer and Warrior then fight Thieves for there dwindling tools. However your constant complaining is getting on my nerves, Necromancers are an amazing class if you know how to play one.

Man, it isn’t my fault if you can’t see when something is too powerful.
And please, don’t let me dig your posts because I remember some of your “balancing suggestions”…

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Change-Flanking-Strike-to-Vampiric-Strike/page/2#post1147711

The flanking strike change was partly ONE of my “Balancing Suggestions.”

Sil.4560:

Ugh. Yeah, roll another braindead guardian then. Just what this game needs.

Makes grouping easier. Heh. I love guardians!

sorrow.2364:

Daecollo.9578:

I play Spvp and WvWvW and I still don’t see many S/D Thieves.

Most of the thieves I see are heartseeking cloak and dagger and P/D, D/P Infinite stealth thieves.

Just
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/members/showposts/sorrow-2364/9
You: The pathing of FS is fine. The first strike always land if you are in melee range, the second one needs you to get closer to enemy if he moved, not to hard anyway. I don’t see any problem here.

This is from a long time ago when flanking strike was absolutely horrible, a lot of your posts are NOTHING but about trying to get thieves nerfed. Your posts not only /FLAT OUT LIE/ about our class, your blatantly constantly assaulting it in hopes it gets nerfed.

Pages 1-7 are constantly being asked for thieves skills to be nerfed, complaining about stealth, asking for things to be nerfed.

Do you ever take a break? If you hate thieves so much why don’t you play one instead of complaining about them?

Attachment.

This skill is FINE.

I would rather fix Necromancer and Warrior then fight Thieves for there dwindling tools. However your constant complaining is getting on my nerves, Necromancers are an amazing class if you know how to play one.

sorrow.2364:

You guys are seeing the situation in the wrong direction.

Let’s consider the facts.
Flanking Strike can be easily spammed. Period.

It is on 4 initiative which is quite low, also most thieves enjoy run S/D+S/D to get initiative regen on weapon swap, allowing them to have almost unlimited initiative to better spam their FS.

It is an issue. I know you are enjoying your newfound FotM skill, but you have to stop to see the situation as a Thief player and look the picture as a whole.
Every thief said that the backstab combo wasn’t powerful; there was NO ONE who said it can use a little nerf, everyone said “if can be dodged”, “l2p” and all the BS we are seeing here again over and over. Fact is that it was overpowered and, in fact, it was nerfed. So, probably, you should adjust your point of view and stop justifying any flaw with the more of the same arguments.

If is fair and right that Thieves have access to some boon stripping skills, but that boon stripping shouldn’t be that much powerful for two simple reasons:
1. There are profession who completely relies on boons. Being able to constantly strip boon moves any form of boon build into the unviable category, which isn’t exactly a symptom of an healthy meta. This is actually what’s happening.
2. Any other profession which is specialized into boon control is overshadowed by FS Thief, another symptom of bad meta.

And please, please, don’t start again with the “you can dodge” argument, because it is an horrible one. Everything in this game can be dodged, this doesn’t mean that you can justify something which is too much powerful.

I play Spvp and WvWvW and I still don’t see many S/D Thieves.

Most of the thieves I see are heartseeking cloak and dagger and P/D, D/P Infinite stealth thieves.

Just
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/members/showposts/sorrow-2364/9
You: The pathing of FS is fine. The first strike always land if you are in melee range, the second one needs you to get closer to enemy if he moved, not to hard anyway. I don’t see any problem here.

This is from a long time ago when flanking strike was absolutely horrible, a lot of your posts are NOTHING but about trying to get thieves nerfed. Your posts not only /FLAT OUT LIE/ about our class, your blatantly constantly assaulting it in hopes it gets nerfed.

Pages 1-7 are constantly being asked for thieves skills to be nerfed, complaining about stealth, asking for things to be nerfed.

Do you ever take a break? If you hate thieves so much why don’t you play one instead of complaining about them?

Do you take your own advice?
Here is a post you made a long time ago.

Topic How do I take down a D/D Ele?
Remove boons. Ele damage is all reliant to its might stacks and fury. Remove those boons and you’ll feel only itch.
Use Sword/Dagger or either pick bountiful theft.

So now you want to take away one of our abilities to do just this?

Take your /own/ Advice.

Lets nerf attunements/boon builds as well, and protection.

Lets just remove the thief class too.

Horrible.

15char

If you count both the healing/ranger of there utility signet its 180ish, compared to warrior’s 200.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Ground-Targeting-AoE-Cast-at-current-target/first#post95080

And many other suggestions like this.