There are no Pure pvp mmorpgs.
This is actually as pure as it gets as pve and pvp are completely separate.
That’s silly, if that were even half true there would have been no updates to pvp this past 6 months.
INSTEAD we get tons of sweet changes bug fixes 5v5 hotjoin Locker Changes, NEW Map.
Paid tournaments, paid gear, daily/monthly achievements
They were talking about putting in arenas you could rent out
Spectator tpvp etc.
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You’d also need a cooldown on this switch, maybe once a minute.
Out of combat ONLY
It’s a whole lot of coding for such minor mechanic I’d prefer they fix the many bugged traits new mesmer GCD fiasco minion pathing.. etc..
The game’s been out for almost half a year now, you know which battle grounds WoW came prepackaged with ? None. How about the honor system? a year or two after release? Arena ? ha ha
5 maps which are well balanced and fun to play is pretty good for a start, PLUS zergvzergvzerg. Arena net is doing an awesome job in it’s pvp department and I’m sure they’l keep going.
I liked it .. it was totally gamebreaking and it’s good that they stopped me and anyone else willing to do it from doing it.
Mesmer who can constantly get swiftness out of combat? Over Powered.
Mesmer who can summon an extra phantasm outside of his weapon set? OP
Massive Group buffing up to 1 minute of swiftness in the beginning of the match and no reprocussions later? OP
This game is marketed as an e-sport, to do that they need to remove borderline-exploits like this, so that balance becomes possible. How would you even go about balancing the ability to switch whole weaponsets during a game?
5v5 is about teamplay and it’s always going to be about teamplay and the game is balanced based on 5v5 teamplay, getting on teamspeak helps but it doesn’t give you the personal skill of teamplay.
Why would I shelve my mesmer? I played before the 3-might stack buff which allowed me to kill 2-3 people at a time..
The GCD is going to be fixed as soon as they code the clones to stop shattering which shouldn’t be hard to do! Just add a [Shattered] tag if[Shattered]No Second Shatter effects No might, somewhere in there..
It’s not that big of a deal, I honestly need the 0.25 seconds to press Mirror Images, or decide if I want to stealth.
Kudos for maintaining this post for so long, It looks really nice and I check regularly for new videos, good work
It’d be nice to get some dev comments on this; namely is it permanent, if so will there be different changes to compensate? if it’s not should we look forward to the next patch cycle to have it fixed?
and probably Last.
I’m not sure what you’re using it/want to use it for, spvp tpvp bvbvb?
If you’re using it in spvp bvb you can probably run whatever..
I don’t think there’s an effective build that’s built around stealth for Tpvp, because your job is to Kill ,Cap Points, Support, Hold Points SecondaryObjective. There are no other jobs I can think of that are possible, Stealth does none of these really.
As I said before, Decoy and Torch Prestige is really strong.. but building around them sounds like a waste of time, might as well roll a thief pick up shadow refuge and be done with it.
I use stealth to hold points (I know silly right?)your point has a chance to decap under you, but an alive glasscannon mesmer is alot better then a dead/down glasscannon mesmer.
I used to run Sword/pistol Greatsword, but the greatsword is currently nerfed and hits like a wet towel, where on the other hand the torch hits like a truck and gives sweet things like retaliation confusion and invisibility. Sword/pistol Sword/torch gives me great dps and surviveability some crowd control.
Some people have put up the critique that using two mainhand swords is “crippling yourself due to shared cooldowns” but the sword’s maximum cooldown is 8 seconds so I have no idea what they’re talking about…
Also running Tuna Morph over timewarp, is the sign of a truly skilled mesmer, just saying.
This is what it should actually look like ;
Decoy at 1200.
Effective stealth build?..
Your options for stealth are Torch;The prestige and Decoy….
I think Veil is pretty buggy atm..
You could also run mass invis? I guess? ..
I love torch/decoy in tpvp.. works great for me.
Not sure what you’re looking for though..
I for one welcome the new timers, being able to put 20 second timers on someone, Other then a warrior thief or mesmer or anyone on a point before was kind of lame. I haven’t seen a timer above 9-10 seconds.
Fix Imaginary Leap, make it ignore +-500 Z Axis or appear @ a target after 0.15seconds of lag time, so I can teleport off a 1 foot ledge.
The prestige sometimes fails to stealth on my screen not sure if I’m actually visible, all I see is myself in a bent over type of animation rushing into the enemy 5man.
Everything else seems to be working as intended for me.
I love the new patch! Everything is great, EVERYTHING
I main a mesmer/necro.
Except the new(old) Load in Bug that plagues s/tpvp.
This game is balanced with BvBvB and PvE in mind :/
Unfortunately for me since I think the spvp/tpvp part of the game is the one worth all of my attention/playtime
What is this level up you speak of?..
I play a necro in tpvp on off days , and let me tell you, It’s one of the most fun classes out there, definetly worth it in spvp or tpvp.
Terrible idea? :/ Have you at least tried it out yet?..
I play point defense in frees/paid, I’m not going out of melee range.
This is not a BvBvB build.
Np, try it out if you’re not satisfied with the current state of the greatsword.
I’ve got about 10 tournaments(30 Matches) under my belt with this build, and I can say without a shadow of a doubt it absolutely destroys, 1v1, 2v1, 3v2
Running sword twice is actually great, I have access to Blurred frenzy at all times, with a reduced cooldown From Blade training it’s key when setting up combos.
Not only do I have a maximum of 6 seconds of distortion every 8 seconds, Extra dodges, 6 seconds of invisibility, Huge heal, I hit like a truck, Have retaliation up most of the time, can get 1k-1.2k Confusion hits.
Try it out. 2 Swords >>>>>> Scepter.
Pretty Potent combo, especially running Sig. Domination.
Sig Of Domination, Mirror Images, Decoy, Timewarp.
2 Stuns, 6 Seconds of invisibility, Extra clones.
Makes for a very Powerful roamer Point harasser.
Not sure if I can find a team that would run me instead of a thief though…
//Discuss.
The difference is that other AoE spells don’t have a miniscule health Bar and can instagibbed by anyone who can hit them twice.
Balancing a class based on a jumping puzzle is stupid.
Iberserker is a 1200 range 15 second cool (for 99% of all builds) it is as far as I know the only phantasm that ignores LOS to cast.
You are ignoring the fact that you have to still get a target, and keep the target to continue casting berserkers, where as Ground target spells can be spammed forever without a target, either Keeping you out or Killing you outright, so what’s the difference?
The froth on my mouth stays as long as you don’t acknowledge all those situations are just as bad.
“Can be avoided by moving out of the red circle, Not really, Fear mark for instance hits as soon as you step on it, enjoy bypassing marked platforms while being feared off them.”
Working as intended. why would iBerserker be the only phantasm to not require LoS? in our best long range weapon?
People are going to run premades in frees, it doesn’t matter if they give tickets or not. they’re going to run them anyway.
Also if what you propose(Remove free tickets) really did hit, NO one would run paids ergo EVEN MORE Pugstomping.
A reference to Bear String theory, obviously.
oh god really?.. so 3 people of any profession standing up there would be just fine ??..
3 Elementalists 3 Warriors 3 Rangers 3 Necros 3 Engis ? The only class that can’t be lame at range with AoEs is really guardians.
Imagine 3 Necros repeatedly chaining fear chill and condi damage on you? Sound fun? Well they don’t need los, they can plop down a circle and you can walk into it.
Imagine 3 Barrage/5Bleed/haste rangers raining hell down on you with 9 spirits up, Sound fun?
3 Grenade engies dealing enormous Damage at hella range? How about that, Not fun at all.
3 Elementalists Raining Fireballs? ..
Imagine 3 Rifle Warriors bursting you dead in 2-3 seconds, How about that?
ALL of those scenarios are fine though, Nerf Mesmers because I can’t throw down an aoe or two to take out all 3 of their berserkers in a second and put them on a 15 second cooldown so they can’t grief me anymore, LONG enough to get out of combat full heal, and continue.
Why do wuvwuv bads think the game needs to be balanced around them?..
I would prefer a more manly animal, like Bears.
2-3 man Mesmer team killing you ? :/
Nerf mesmers.
Fail posts up in this mofo.. who’s going to help you out while you’re being a disrespectful troll? Google it.
Good thing you post videos of your paid adventures, I’d never be able to watch a live stream..
I’ve noticed you stopped running Blink.. THE SAME DAY, I was talking to another dude and he was like, I don’t run blink.. I thought he was crazy but then I saw you doing it, and it seems like a great idea, you get to keep BOTH your damage utilities, the only problem would be a 100b Warrior if he catches you.. but the stream cut out after one match, so, Is it workin for you or wut ? : P
4.“Why are you talking about balance then” Read through your QQ posts, Man you’ve got some issues, most of the QQ is centered around “MOA NEEDS A NERF” “MESMERS ARE OHPEE” if anyone is wondering Lol I bet you only run around in SPVP maybe you’re the one who shouldn’t talk about balance? I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Larynx on a roster :/
3. and 2. ??? All good condition stripping is AOE.
You don’t have any idea about what you’re talking about do you?…
We have
Mantra of Resolve Mantra 3 4¼ 20 Meditate, charging a spell that will cure all of two conditions [sic].(Useless)
Phantasmal Disenchanter Phantasm 6 1½ 20 Sumon[sic] an illusion that removes boons from foes and cures conditions on allies.(LOL Useless)
Arcane Thievery Manipulation 3 45 Send conditions you have to your foe and steal their boons.
Null Field Glamour 1 ¼ 45 Create a field of energy that rips all boons from foes, and cures all conditions on allies.
Which 3 could you name exactly? Null field? And the other 3 no one ever uses?
Meanwhile, guardian has;
Purging Flames Consecration 3 ¾ 40 Create a ring of fire that burns foes and cures conditions on allies.
Contemplation of Purity Meditation 3 60 Convert the conditions you are suffering from into boons.
Smite Condition Meditation 1 ¼ 20 Cure a condition and damage nearby foes. More damage if a condition is cured.
“Save Yourselves!” Shout 3 60 Draw conditions from nearby allies to yourself. Gain multiple boons for a short duration.
Bow of Truth Spirit weapon 3 1½ 60 Summon an arcane bow to cure conditions on you and your allies.
Purifying Ribbon ¾ 3 Release a ribbon of light that bounces to nearby allies, curing one condition on each ally hit and blinding each foe hit.
Necromancer’s condition Removal
Gathering Plague 30 Draw conditions from nearby allies to yourself, and inflict weakness on yourself.
Putrid Mark Mark ¾ 25 Inscribe a mark that transfers conditions from allies to foes when they trigger it.
Deathly Swarm ¼ 18 Unleash an insect swarm, blinding multiple foes. Transfer three conditions to your target on a successful attack.
Consume Conditions 1 1¼ 25 Feast on your conditions, gaining health for each one consumed.
Corrupt Boon Corruption 3 40 Poison yourself. Transform all boons on your foe into negative conditions.
Plague Signet Signet 3 60 Passive: Transfers conditions from nearby allies to yourself.
Active: Send your conditions to a foe.
Well of Corruption Well 3 ¼ 45 Target area pulses, converting boons on foes into conditions
Well of Power Well 3 ¼ 60 Target area pulses, converting conditions on allies into boons.
Grim Specter 30 Send out a claw that explodes on impact, ripping boons off of foes and curing conditions on allies.
Not to mention Epidemic.
1.So you’re saying because no one runs it it’s not compareable? :/ So you’re saying no one runs it because they run something better? So Tome of Courage with Aoe Protection Aoe Condition Cure blind 3 second Daze isn’t compareable to 10 seconds of haste? but it’s better then 6 seconds of haste AND fury?
Mesmer SHOULD have one or two utility to cleanse conditions, and they should be strong abilities to compete with offensive abilities or escape abilities.
I thought this was intended.. :O
Those are Really STRONG abilities Time Warp, Null field Portal, but are they comparable to other classes?
Guardian’s elite haste is comparable to Timewarp, 6 seconds of haste AND fury during the 15 seconds the book is out, but most guardians run the Defensive book, 20k+ heal on a long cast time. Do we need to remove timewarp? or should we Make it last 6 seconds like the guardian elite? Guardians also have a choice between 4 other abilities with that same elite, If anything I think guardians get a better deal.
Guardians are able to Steal Conditions once and convert them to boons! Null field lasts for 7 seconds but also STRIPS boons, I think that’s pretty comparable
Necromancers also have a condition removal/boon mechanic, why can’t mesmers have one? especially if we have to give up our Damage(Clones) or Surviveability(Decoy) for it?
PORTAL, 60 second cooldown after a successful use, so Yes ___premeditated___ and quickly executed with TEAMWORK this is a very powerful tool, once every 60 seconds. A Mesmer successfully doing this is pretty rare in free tournaments, although I’ve seen a couple, maybe serious Mesmer teams in Paid do it, but I wouldn’t know.
Sounds like you got outplayed by a mesmer and are mad :/
Mesmers need nerfs where exactly?.. Portal? Okay nerf portal, portal is an awesome concept but whatever let’s make this game Call of Duty. I personally hate portal as it makes my class a one trick pony.
What else is wrong with mesmers? are they killing your thief as fast as your thief can kill them? BOO HOO.
Warriors if you haven’t noticed are pretty frikken potent, 100b can and Will kill spikers almost instantly sometimes, so we have to nerf mesmers because what? they’re not warriors?…
I’m sure your class is the one that takes massive amounts of skill to play and you’re just underappreciated and not a bad player it’s your class that’s dragging you down.
How many teams actually run a mesmer full time? What’s that? Maybe 20% ?
This clearly Proves how OP mesmers are! How many Run a Guardian 100% of the time? What? 80% and up? Some Teams actually run Two guardians full time??
Mesmer DPS is fine, Mesmer surviveability is fine, Mesmer utility is Great.
Mesmers don’t need nerfs. Other classes are getting buffs indirectly nerfing the mesmer, if you also nerf mesmers directly you’re going to get a waffleclass.
Rangers and engis are strong classes with the right builds in the right hands in 5v5…
Hopefully this is mostly small Balance changes like the thief changes last patch; did they nerf theif damage? slightly, did they break the class? No.
“This is coming from a fellow mesmer”… Delete your mesmer, Moa morph is the worst elite.
The QQ is strong with this one.
I personally hate portal.. hope it gets nerfed to oblivion. @Nilgoow we already have a spell like that, blink.
No Stars No Titles, Only Blood and iron.
Glass warrior? The only time glass warriors win against mesmers IMHO is when you catch them offguard at the treb or 1v1ing some other dude…
Kill him before he notices you, it’s that simple 18-22k burst is not impossible for a warrior,
but fighting a mesmer head on probably is.
This is BvBvB though.. you could roll around facerolling all day with no traits and say that mesmers are OP.
Torch is fun, but slotting out pistol or greatsword(Staff) is a bad move.
If they fixed Prestige to do the full damage on entering stealth instead of exiting it’d probably be a lot more potent and probably my go to weapon 2v1, free stealth ? Yes please.
scepter is….. meh.. Why would I give up Blurred frenzy, half my invulnerability to get ranged confusion and useless clones?
Run that in tpvp and tell me it’s viable, I’ll gladly watch.
You’re pretty silly, House > Stomp GG mesmer.
Asura are really the ugliest most useless race, I have one but I’m thinking of deleting it for a human female.
HappinessFactory; You are awesome and saved me about 10 minutes of writing.
Tpvp is not broken, just lacks a little bit of polish.
I feel like 20 20 0 0 30 is probably the best at what it does, Faster sword cooldowns, Massive boon Removal are just too good to give up for anything else.
“Allow the necromancer to shut down the class mechanics of the mesmer and thief with one button”
Sounds REALLY lame.
This is one of the cooler skills, but unfortunately it faces some challenges mostly due to terrain… sometimes it just refuses to work even if you’re on top of the guy but on a slope
It’d be cool for you to take a really good fight and break it down piece by piece… especially a 1v1 fight against a guardian
Between focus’s swiftness, blink and Portal I think we’re one of the most versatile at moving classes…
That’d be cool, Yes nero’s is at the top, but prometheius’s stuff is lost in there(which originally prompted my angsty venom filled midnight post),
I think categorizing them would help alot, like Tpvp /Guides /Spvp/ wvwvw or something? :P