Guild Wars 2

full healing mesmer heals A LOT and the only things you need are “heal when you cast mantra” trait and mantra of pain.

you make about 2.6-2.9 heal per 4 second with just 300 healing.

the disadvantage is you have to spam it like grenade engi on dope.

it does not crit. it stacks intensity just like bleed, except that the total damage is combined in one tick whereas bleeds tick as multiple stacks at once.

well good for you but it’s quite normal that mesmer can do that. I do it all the tim ewith staff clones…

pop 3 clones, get aggro from boss and then keep running in circle. takes like forever but soloable.

Welcome to GW2 where now….

1) Inexperienced players will be ignored and unaccepted by PUGs

2) More gear checks are required to run dungeons….. I started seeing the LF (insert classes) trend during the past week.

3) Dungeon will be even more frustrating….. Lupi’s hp @ 50%…. two people down.. kittenOLOLOOLOOL start over!

4) New players can forget about running dungeons at early level. No one’s gonna pick them up. Not me, at least — well maybe I will if the other 3 in my teams are people I usually run dungeon with. I can do most dungeon with 4 people. And I’m not gonna waste 2 hours trying to farm TA with newbies for sure.

5) Rezzing mechanic is VERY encouraged but, at the same time, VERY badly designed because 99.999999% of the time, in my experience, when you’re down, you’re probably gonna get 1-2 shot by bosses and the people rezzing you are also risking themselves getting downed because most bosses do heavy AoE. They can try avoiding those but the oh oh downed players’ hp will keep getting lower. Downed players can heal themselves but oh oh oh oh some mobs poke me and I got interrupted… there goes CD.

6) Now I have to gear up for some survivability to stay alive long enough to kill Lupi and I lose dmg and oh oh oh I can’t hit burrow in AC path3.

7) I don’t have(and literally don’t want to waste) 3 hours to make a perfect strategic move and invest that much brain energy to do a single kittenty/boring/cliche dungeon run(and pretty much playing games in general) and get crappy loots. I have a life, too. Did you forget that players have lives, Anet?

Wrong move, big time. Even worse than the usual mesmer nerf.

so basically you want it nerfed. The reason why you had to make it seem overly rhetorical is beyond my comprehension.

Btw, the point of IP is not doing dmg. I can shred my enemies into quarks without even touching IP if I want it that much. The point of IP is generating extra stacks of confusion, extra daze, extra distortion ==> extra reflect, etc. and the ability to slap theif in the face when it tries attempting surprise buttseck on you.

Stop calling things OP when you don’t even understand the purpose of it.

MRA.4758:

FYI: An increase in the number of disconnections since the recent WvW server reset is also being discussed in the German forum .

As already posted yesterday I continuously encounter network errors (5:11:3:157:101) when loading a map. Since today, I also encounter an “Connection failed” error (26:11:5:506) every other time I try to log in.

I also noticed that it seems that I am able to load my alts (which I haven’t played for some time) without any problems. Yet, when I try to switch the map the receive a network error (5:11:3:157:101) and from that point on the character is also “corrupted” to throw 5:11:3:157:101 and 26:11:5:506 just like the other characters.

It seems to me that this can no longer be explained just by packet losses of individual ISPs .

PS: my server is Riverside [DE] in EU

~MRA

THIS exactly. I can’t get through character selection page for my main but then I can log in with my alt. This 5:11 error occurs when I wp to another maps. Happened so many times now… followed by inability to log in ranging from 5-20 minutes.

Oh wait.. where am I complaining. It’ll never get response.

Arcane Thievery used to be cool until it got stealth nerf. For some reasons Anet thinks it’s ok for other professions to instantly get all boons (with 100% accuracy of knowing what boons will be given) while it’s not for mesmer.

Who the fk wants one of their utility slot on long CD for 3 stupid boons that last for a blink? Not to mention that most boons are tied to how you gear up yourself to be effective. The only potent boons worth stealing are probably protection and stability. Good luck trying to get them.

Mantras are ok if you’re not actually expecting to rely solely on what it says on the tool tip. They’re meant to be working with traits.

That Signet of Midnight never exists.

Other utilities are fine as they are (bugs aside).

Crossplay.2067:

Oh, and we are divas! If you join our ranks, you are expected to wear high-fashon, vastly impractical outfits with lots of ruffles and lace! You will learn to love fuchsia, lavender and butterflies! You are required to be a haughty, pompous jerk whom gets into everyone’s head and under their skin just for the sheer joy of it! If you can’t do that then you are not worthy.

Approved!!!

BTW mesmers can do ridiculous(-ly high) dmg; however, I’ve found a new build that finally pwns annoying backstabbing thieves. Never look back to glass cannon again. Unless I have to run dungeons with my friends, that is.

pve or wvw/pvp? for pve, I use iWarden very often. It does the most damage comparing to my other phantasms. It’s quite situational though since most bosses do aoe but it’s a beast against single target or ranged mobs/bosses.

For wvw, I generally go with this…… down one enemy>pop temporal curtain> pop iWarden on the downed enemy> wait for iWarden to start wielding — which should be very quick> then use Into the Void.

With full dps build, you should kill 1 and down another 2-4 players.

errrr…. pretty sure that’s only possible because all their buffs are gone. You can’t pull through that stone armor thing/vapor and they can also teleport (well I presume that’s the most effective combination to make them uncatchable)

What I did when facing these arrogant d/d ele kittenes is acting noob and stack 16 confusions in one burst. Most of them don’t have condition remover( or if they do I can restack my confusion again) so they either have to back out, kill themselves or sacrifice their evasive skill to deal with me. It’s a win win.

My pals and I just fought “one” theif in JP today with a few more random allies. A mesmer, a GD, 2 Warrios, 1 Ranger … took like 5 mins to take that muhfker down… because he vanishes every fking 5 seconds… and came back with full HP every single time.

Stealth> Reappear from stealth>Dual pistols> Immobilize > Dual dagger > about to be hit… dodge dodge> stealth again.

He repeated that tactic like 20 times…

And for some reason when he’s down, he went into stealth with the 2 skill, I understand that, that he vanished again…. umm 3rd skill? I understand that…. then he stealth again….. wtf? That’s not the first time I encountered the most annoying down state with theif.

tell me there’s nothing wrong with this class.

Emanuel.9781:

DavyMcB.1603:

Now let’s see, the same span of 30 seconds, you use full glass canon GS build. I use 30/30/0/0/10, which means my iBerserker CD is about 16 seconds, my auto attack deals around 3k-4k with 3 ticks combined. You see, in 30 seconds, I can generate 2 iBerserkers, each deals 10k+ damage on every single mob in aoe range while, in the mean time, I can spam my auto attack for extra damage. You’ve got mob zerg coming? F1! 4k! 4k! 4k!

…are you serious? Are you sure you didn’t mix up a warrior with the mesmer?
Those numbers that keep “increasing on the same spot” are CUMULATIVE damage. Different numbers flying in different directions/popping up somewhere else is damage from different skills/people. Your GS autoattack deals maybe 900-1400 damage at most. Possibly a bit more with full berserkers and might stacks, but 4k? Not even with a hundred might stacks.
I-Berserker also deals like 3-4k at most(!!) with full berserkers(and +30% damage traits), IF it managed to hit(or rather, live enough to strike once).

I have 3.6k base dmg with about 60% crit chance(that’s like 100% in practice) and 106 crit dmg boost which is like 425% multiplier. Yeah, I’m pretty sure I’m not mistaken. And since when can you see other people’s damage? o.o And when I mentioned Berserkers I was talking about two of them. In wvw it’s even easier cuz I half(and in most cases more than half) most of my enemies’ hp in just one Berserker strike. You won’t believe how many people out there would sacrifice their entire hp pool and armor for their dps. Btw, you would scream if you see how much dmg my iWarden does, cumulatively.

DavyMcB.1603:

Emanuel.9781:

DavyMcB.1603:

Now let’s see, the same span of 30 seconds, you use full glass canon GS build. I use 30/30/0/0/10, which means my iBerserker CD is about 16 seconds, my auto attack deals around 3k-4k with 3 ticks combined. You see, in 30 seconds, I can generate 2 iBerserkers, each deals 10k+ damage on every single mob in aoe range while, in the mean time, I can spam my auto attack for extra damage. You’ve got mob zerg coming? F1! 4k! 4k! 4k!

…are you serious? Are you sure you didn’t mix up a warrior with the mesmer?
Those numbers that keep “increasing on the same spot” are CUMULATIVE damage. Different numbers flying in different directions/popping up somewhere else is damage from different skills/people. Your GS autoattack deals maybe 900-1400 damage at most. Possibly a bit more with full berserkers and might stacks, but 4k? Not even with a hundred might stacks.
I-Berserker also deals like 3-4k at most(!!) with full berserkers(and +30% damage traits), IF it managed to hit(or rather, live enough to strike once).

I have 3.6k base dmg with about 60% crit chance(that’s like 100% in practice) and 106 crit dmg boost which is like 425% multiplier. Yeah, I’m pretty sure I’m not mistaken. And since when can you see other people’s damage? o.o

Catching theif? yh that’s quite possible with stun, blink and iZerker. I got them many times with that tactic. Getting away? if your portal is gone, prepare to get kitten it’s a matter of time before those guys catch you.

I believe it is a bug(or an incomplete fix). iWarlock spawns at the casting range, iDuelist spawns at the casting range. iDisenchanter spawns at the exact same bugged casting range that existed a month ago. Although you can cast the skill at the correct range now, those guys still spawn at the bugged range.

Yeah it’s annoying.

Condition build is fun, pretty and decent in pvp/wvw. If you’re bored, you could try one. There’s a few ways to get into decent condition stacking. Rampager if you want both confusion and bleed which means you pretty much have to get into Duelist and Illusion trait to make it effective or Carrion for stacking confusion with shattering — I tried Carrion with Illusion and Domination traits.

But trust me, for the sake of saving your time and making your life easier, just go with the brainless glass canon build.

For condition build, you have to “hope” that your conditions last long enough and stack heavily enough to down your enemy. Let’s assume we mainly talk about Confusion since that’s the main condition for mesmer, if you generate confusion through shatter…. look at this…

In a span of 30 seconds you have to spend most of your time generating clones again and again and again and againnnnnnnnnn… then keep shattering — maybe with a little help from glamour traits. I tried that build once, and the highest number of stacks I can get on average is about 6-8. With full set Carrion/Rampager your dmg per confusion stack should be around 340-350. That’s totally about 2k-3k damage per tick. And oh dear if you’re talking about PVE, most of the time your stacks are gone before they can even deal damage. And that’s just 1:1 fight, you can totally forget about generating confusion in the form of AOE. At most, mobs would take just 3-4 stacks. And the dmg is plain kitten.

Now let’s see, the same span of 30 seconds, you use full glass canon GS build. I use 30/30/0/0/10, which means my iBerserker CD is about 16 seconds, my auto attack deals around 3k-4k with 3 ticks combined. You see, in 30 seconds, I can generate 2 iBerserkers, each deals 10k+ damage on every single mob in aoe range while, in the mean time, I can spam my auto attack for extra damage. You’ve got mob zerg coming? F1! 4k! 4k! 4k!

If you’re talking about bleed, I believe the most effective way into stacking bleed as a mesmer is through Sharper Image, which means you have to stack crit chance to make it work. Rampager is the only gear, in my opinion, that makes that option possible. But if you use rampager, you have to sacrifice some condition damage and vit that you could get from Carrion gear. And if you try to cover for what you’ve lost by mixing gear, you’re pretty much gimping your damage again. It’s contradicting.

So unless you’re a curious type, do yourself a fever, go with the glass canon build. If you want effective condition build, maybe play burng GD or something else. Condition mesmer is not bad, it’s just not the smartest option.

I tried the fix… like 3 months ago… yet it still happens randomly. I know it’s not gonna be fixed soon and possibly never. Just to let you know that’s it’s very annoying when it happens in FOTM stage 3….

Regardless of how pretty and stylish condition build may seem, not only specific to mesmer, if you want an effective build, go for direct DPS. Because, obviously, hitting one key and bam! 10k is more effective than trying to waste 5 seconds stacking condition and wait for the number to tick.

Ostricheggs.3742:

With time warp the way it is why would you EVER use mass invis? Even if the duration was 3 minutes for the stealth.

This is the last thing I thought I’d see.

I think the problem is not whether you use or don’t use it. It’s just that that slot costs 30 sp and is an “elite”. The skill should be more resourceful.

More hp means your illusions can actually “reach” the targets before dying uselessly. Those things get killed just by being sneezed on, remember?

The marginal 50% isn’t going to make your illusions last that much longer even if you go full defensive on illusions. So it’s more like, at least now they can get through two ticks in aoe and shatter on your targets instead of getting killed at the first 0.000001 sec they enter aoe ring.

I don’t understand. Besides staff, sword and pistol , we only have focus left. Or you expect people to use scepter and… torch? lol

I just got 3-shot by a theif that’s on semi-perma invi all of the time. So, just let them kitten.

Whiners are just gonna whine.

Kazhiel.8194:

Which build are you using Davy?

Gaiawolf.8261:

@Kazhiel:
Well he said he needs a minute to set it up which is about the time needed for 3 traited iMages. Probably something like a 20/x/x/10+/20+ staff + scepter/torch build using Cry/iMage/glamours. I know because I use a very similar build, but I run with dueling instead of inspiration because I prefer a sword most of the time. I always have the scepter in my pack tho, for certain bosses.

0/30/0/10/30

I’ll leave the rest as a mystery

I just switched to confusion build and something funny happened. Never before had I killed so many people in WvW and sPvp comparing to when I use full crit GS.

And stacking 25 stacks confusion on boss in PVE is super easy. Get your traits and tactics right. I know it because I have my own way of doing it. Give me 1 minute and I can stack 25 confusion every 15 secs til the boss drops dead. (350 for each stack that’s about 8750 per tick, and for some reasons, some bosses trigger more than one tick at a time, if I’m not confused myself :P, due to their attack mechanic so BAM! it hurts.. a lot).

And remember, when you proc precision/condition build you also get many stacks of bleeds.

It can be very powerful, but only if you know how.

please nerf stupid semi-perma theif invisibility
please nerf war’s fulltime 20+ might stacks
please…

oh

who am I kidding.

I just got disconnected for the 5th time in the past 10 minutes. Not to mention countless connection failure that won’t even get me pass launcher.

wtf, anet.

join da club. I just got disconnected for the 100th time when transferring map, not to mention the following inability to connect that lasts from 30 mins to over an hour. Sometimes, I logged on to the character selection and got disconnected 4 times in a row.

seriously now.

Torch is clumsy. You don’t use it even if you go full confusion build. Very ironic.

So this happened for like the 3rd time now during the past few days. Suddenly, when I was transferring map, I got disconnected, following with the inability to log in(through launcher) for 20-30 minutes. Now it’s taking over an hour. The account page is also broken; stylesheet is just gone whenever I try to log in during the down time.

First, I thought it was my ISP. But now that it happens more than once, with the same exact pattern, whereas I can still access other sites just fine, I’m inclined to believe that it’s something with the server.

Can the devs take a look into this? It’s very annoying.

Similar thing also happens to my forum log-in screen. This occurs after I got dc’d in game while transferring map and now I can’t get pass launcher.

I’d presume that it’s my ISP but it happens many times now with the same pattern — dc while transferring map, unable to connect for like 20-30 minutes. I still have access to other sites.

I start to think it’s server based.

next time, click the npc/object before pressing F.

Profits.

Mesmer is like that, your damage starts to shine once you’re around 60 (at least its’ like that for me). I’ve been using sword/pistol and scepter/focus from lv1 to lv80 and I wasn’t even aware they’re pain in the kitten Good thing is those harder-to-control weapons will force you to master every trick and evasive maneuver a mesmer can do. And that’s the heart of playing this class.

I run with power+precision+crit dmg GS mantra from time to time. Using the traits that give you 3 stacks of each mantra and +4% damage for each stack will rocket your damage to the moon.

Sad thing is, you lose all your mobility so it’s only good when you want to be a super glass cannon and always keep yourself at the safe range like in WvWvW since you can’t use your mantras because you have to maintain the dmg bonus. In dungeons, it’s a lot harder to do. Also, if you spec fully for damage output already, it doesn’t matter anymore whether you use mantra build or not, the marginal difference in killing things faster is not preferable to survivability.

I got it too… but I deleted that char and made a new one. Haven’t seen the problem yet. I’m not sure if it’s a permanent bug or just happens from time to time.

keywords; forced, thrown in the face, shoved down my throat

beginning sentence; I’m not against gays but….

ah…. classics.

Btw, although I’m playing a human, I’ve got to say Sylvari is the most beautiful race in GW2. Maybe because it’s the new race and the devs got something fresh to put in.

Null field
= overall condition cure for your teammates, good for retreating.

Arcane thievery
= as the name suggests, it’s most useful when, let’s say, your enemy is a guardian and he just pops out 300 boons at once. yeah you know what I mean. Very good when used with that signet that grants you the ability to send all your boons to allies.

iDisenchanter
= definitely not for pvp or fast combat. Works best with debuffing bosses/mini-bosses that constantly buff themselves, e.g. in CoE.

Disenchanter’s range is bugged at the moment.

I use scepter, I always use it with any bosses that tend to one shot my teammates. Scepter is very good for constantly creating meat shields. Clones will take everything from Frost’s freezing beam to Subject Alpha’s fatal purple crystal.

It’s not very viable but it’s outstanding for certain situations.

someone got pulled down from a cliff while trying to snipe people from behind, eh?

fair game, I’d say.

Phantasmal Disenchanter range is bugged

Phantasms>Clones

When 3 Phantasms are out, a new clone will replace 1 phantasm and only 1, assuming the previous 2 phantasms are still alive. Phantasms always replace clones.

My suggestion; turn off 1 skill auto attack on scepter

I LOL’d because I used to play Psi in Allods. What makes people more angry is not getting killed in 1 shot but because they can’t do anything while someone is obliterating them. The class is supposed to be nerf-reckoning. Ironically, that’s also why it got killed by the people who came up with the concept.

What’s next? Blurred Frenzy nerf? lol I"m a sword/pistol mesmer and honestly Duelist is the only potent dd that I can use in boss fight, which often gets destroyed in seconds and sometimes it doesn’t even last long enough to deal damage. Anet, you do know that 99.9999% of your freakin bosses do aoe, right? Increasing CD would just make it harder for us to pull out damage and even if we can, the damage isn’t that good considering other classes can do much more while I sit here waiting for phantasms’ attack recharge.

You put too much sPVP/WvW into the calculation already, mates. Mesmer is the only class I’ve been playing since the launch and I’m already feeling useless enough in most dungeons. That said, I use 4 sets of weapons in general occasions — GS, Scepter/Focus, Sword/Pistol, sometimes Staff and constantly adjust my traits throughout the dungeon to make sure I do highest damage possible in each circumstance and YET my damage can’t even beat that from other dd spec classes .

I’ve never complained about any nerfs before but now it’s starting to bug me. If you don’t want mesmers to be a comparable dd then do tell so I can delete it and play other professions.

Mind Bending

Make your enemies perceive their allies as hostile targets, causing friendly fire.

now that would be awesome.

I use GS+4 Mantras + 3stacks/4%dmg +Power/Precision spec in sPVP.

It’s a glass cannon. Don’t expect flexibility. You can take any class down in a matter of seconds but you need to maintain your distance. And with timewarp,, you can just stand there spamming your 1st skill, even a guardian will panic. Other than that, prepared to get pwned.

I think it’s a fair trade. It deals A LOT of damage. If you have evasive tactic at the same time, I’m pretty that would be OP.

My dandy chap

They don’t have super speed buff, but they have tons of clones/stealth to leave enemies messed up while they’re running away. Plus, I’ve heard portal, teleport and clone swap kitten off a lot of people in pvp. And if you’re rolling with Duelist build then you have higher dodge rate than other classes. So I don’t see how mesmers are slow.

Well, they’re slow in 1500 metres Olympics marathon but….. how critical is it?

Confusion seems, to me, to be the most powerful condition in pvp GRANTING that you can reach 20 stacks and be able to hold it for a while, which is actually almost impossible to do in practice. I tried condition build before, stack every condition gear, use every condition-related trait, and I could only reach about 10 stacks for most of the time. It’s either that your enemies start attacking back and you need to defend yourself or they decide to run away and wear off your debuff.

Confusion duration is also varied depending on which skill it originates from so you kind of need to prearrange the order of your skills. You could stack your condition for quite some time or lose it all in 3 seconds. Nonetheless, confusion still does a lot of damage and could discourage your enemies from attacking you and grants you the privilege of doing evasive tactics while continuously killing off your opponents. The potential is there, no doubt, but it’s not so reliable and majorly PVP-based, that’s why most mesmers go for direct damage build like power/precision.

Condition or not, if you want a pure damage output then I’m quite certain that mesmer is not for you. The class is more about being, like Ebolism said, “slippery”.

@Aethan.6457

Ah, I see what’s going on, Duelist’s Discipline reduces the CD number on skill description while Illusionist Celerity’s effect can be noticed only if I turn CD Recharge on.

Sorry for the confusion.

Duelist’s Discipline trait also doesn’t reduce any pistol skills’ CD.