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be cool if Druid could shapeshift

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I doubt the shapeshift thing will happen I do think the control your pets might happen if you watch wooden potatoes theories it is quite interesting and very possible. The thing is guild wars 2 is not trying to be like wow or everquest 1 or 2 so their druid will need to be different.

If Anet is trying to go for the high fantasy Druid like WP was suggesting, then we will get shapeshifting since that has ALWAYS been a key point of Druids in fantasy. It all depends on whether or not Anet is going full on spell casting or if we are going to totally embrace high fantasy Druid.

And judging by how close GW2 ranger is to DnD ranger/Druid, I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if our elite glyph was a shape shifting skill.

Your only dreaming at this point, the point was mmorpgs try not to copy each other in classes as little as possible when it comes to western mmorpgs, and this isnt dnd and if you want to be technical dnd druids had far more then just shapeshifting they could control some of the elements, and even shapeshift into some them, regardless of druid origins of dnd it does not mean shapeshifting is likely, guild wars 2 tries to make the classes more unique then other mmos anyways so shapeshifting is not likely.

Yes, because Warrior, Guardian, Ranger, Thief, engineerand Necromancer are so much more unique than your stereotypical Warrior, Paladin, Ranger/Hunter, rogue, engineer/tinker and stereotypical dark magic user.

The only prof in the game that is even doing something different from the stereotypical RPG classes is Mesmer, who is using the enchanter/illusionist thing which is almost NEVER seen in anything, and ele who is not only capable of using earth and air magic (very rare for most MMOs), but they also use ALL the elements instead of just specializing in one.

Anet isn’t reinventing the wheel, and they’re not even remotely pretending to, they’re just taking the same wheel and putting their own fancy decal onto it. Just because they’re trying their own thing doesn’t mean Druid won’t shapeshift, or that it won’t use magic (it’s already been established they will), they’ll probably end up shapeshifting into nature spirit type of things instead of animals, and use a mix of martial with magic. They won’t stray too far from the established theme or else they risk angering people who want to play that archetype, but that won’t stop them from tweaking it a little.

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I'm Afraid of over-buffs...

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@ ragnarokda
Ranger is the easiest class to play…
… but the most difficult to master.

That could sum it up.

To reply to the OP:
I always had 2 horrible habits. I have never been able to play characters that were overpowered. If I felt like mechanics are carrying me – it just stopped being enjoyable.
The other – I always picked classes/characters/champions that I liked aesthetically. The worst part is that they usually were the weakest.

On the other hand, I have been a huge fan of Archery as well as Beast Masters so much that I do archery IRL as well as I am training birds of prey.
If Ranger gets overbuffed, I’d probably still keep playing it because of the archetype it offers. There’s no other class that connects with nature as much as Ranger does.

This x100, except trade birds of prey with “dogs” and tack on “naturalist” to the list of things I lol for.

I also don’t WANT ranger to become OP or it’ll bug me, but because of both the theme being my ideal theme, and the time investment in the character I’ll never switch classes, but I would be very salty about not only being on the OP class but also EVERYONE playing it.

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be cool if Druid could shapeshift

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I doubt the shapeshift thing will happen I do think the control your pets might happen if you watch wooden potatoes theories it is quite interesting and very possible. The thing is guild wars 2 is not trying to be like wow or everquest 1 or 2 so their druid will need to be different.

If Anet is trying to go for the high fantasy Druid like WP was suggesting, then we will get shapeshifting since that has ALWAYS been a key point of Druids in fantasy. It all depends on whether or not Anet is going full on spell casting or if we are going to totally embrace high fantasy Druid.

And judging by how close GW2 ranger is to DnD ranger/Druid, I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if our elite glyph was a shape shifting skill.

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As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna

be cool if Druid could shapeshift

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I could see an elite glyph that transforms the druid into a nature spirit depending on our aspect.

That is as far as druid shapeshifting might go, though. Druids in Tyria are people who gave up their mortal body to become spirits. Turning into animals would make no sense thematically.

It could make sense thematically, it’s not like we have much lore on Druids, for all we know turning into a nature spirit is the highest form of transformation for Druids. There is absolutely nothing in game that says Druids CANT shapeshift, just that they DID become nature spirits

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Insinctive Reaction

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Can we please change this trait to scale off of our vitality, as it was before the specialization patch? The healing power scaling is not useful at all.

I personally like this trait.. more for the quickness than the healing power —> power, but seeing as how i use Celestial, i’m ok with getting a whopping like 15 power or w/e it gives me (nothing impressive) for getting quickness below 50%.

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No Third Party Reveal?

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It’s 2:15 PM where I am. By now there’s usually notes on Dulfy of a Third Party website reveal for elite specs up by now. Are we not getting one because all the hype is going to be dropped on us at Twitch Con? Are they just trying to get more people to go to Twitch Con to get a glimpse of the Druid? Does this mean we aren’t getting an official reveal tomorrow either? I’m so needlessly concerned! Help!

Anet… https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-2U0Ivkn2Ds

I feel the same way man… and beautiful song choice! Love this song.

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Your plan B if Druid sucks?

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If Druid is still fun to play i’ll probably do what i did with ranger and say “kitten it” and play it anyway and just wait out the storm. If it’s really boring to play, or is so bad i can’t realistically use it in any way at all (keep in mind i’ve been playing as a supporting bunker rez ranger for the past 3 years), then i’ll just stick with ranger and ignore druid until it’s fixed.

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Ranger Needs to Become "High" HP Prof

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18 seconds from where.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/%22Protect_Me!%22

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Signet_of_Stone

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Forage_

Factor in all the evasion and blocks we have too and it’ll get much higher, not to mention we have what is probably the highest HPS in the game, and it’s far from bad even without healing power and the amount of CC our pets can pump out even while we’re downed/CCed is ridiculous.

NOTE the tooltip for elixir of heroes is wrong, it has been since beta, it lasts 6s not 3s.

The problem is items forage by your pet can be used by your enemy. The other problem with this is its to rng you don’t know what your going to get.

Like so many things with the ranger it looks good on paper but, in game not so much.

Bark skin in its current form is pretty sad one hit and its gone. So I have to use my defenses to keep my defense trait active. The trait may as well be: first hit is reduce by 33% if you have full life.

Protective warden is like warrior spiked armor but ours is a gm master. Its also in Nm so if we wanted to use it with bark skin we have to make sacrifices because they are in two different lines.

I have not had a single issue keeping barkskin active in just about every fight in PvP or PvE, then again I run a cele shout build and have more regen and healing than I know what to do with. I haven’t tried running a glassy build in a LONG time, so I’d imagine barkskin is a lot worse than it was for those builds.

However, I have used pigs quite a bit recently (more for kittens and giggles with their KD than anything else), and most players don’t expect the forage skill, so they don’t even bother hitting F, and if they DO grab it out little piggies will perform their AoE KD at point blank while they’re animation locked into picking it up, which screws them over big time. And the RNG doesn’t matter too much since you know what you’ll be getting for each pig. Normal Pigs you get something defensive (a baby heal spring, a 4K or so heal, and an invuln), board give you a form of hard CC, warthogs give you a really strong condi item (all of which have poison application), and then siamoth gives you a sort of fight or flight item, you either get AoE blind + stealth, or every boon in the game for like 10s.

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Ranger Needs to Become "High" HP Prof

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Signet of stone, protect me aren’t invulns.

If you are going to narrow-mindedly consider only things like mistform and distortion as “invulns” then there is no use arguing. Endure Pain is widely considered an invuln despite condition damage technicalities and likewise so is SoS and Protect Me. You are more interested in semantics than actually contributing to the discussion.

The point was:

No, rangers dont need more HP, we have good HPS, good access to evades, and good access to invulns (^physical invulnerability only. “Invuln” is not available in CT, MA or California. Trolls and Conditions may apply**).

Ranger’s don’t really need higher HP. That’s true.
What we need is a complete design look-at and buffs at pets, traits and weapons.

If we could compete with other classes – higher HP wouldn’t be needed.
But since we are not getting any – higher HP becomes a solution for several issues we experience without affecting PvE whatsoever.

The point is
The game is not won through evades, healing and damage mitigation when you can’t support it up with anything else unlike guardians.

Currently the game isn’t even won with skill, it’s won by whoever has the most D/D eles.

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Ranger Needs to Become "High" HP Prof

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We got tons of evades, damage invulnerability,

no, we do not.

We can have 18s of pure invulnerability, we have the most access to invuln in the entire game, yes, yes we do.

Please elaborate on any working build that isn’t made for hotjoin, only. Thanks.

And that so almighty invulnerability is not so invulnerable considering 12 seconds that only block Direct Damage and lets condis go through full, and 6 out of 12 seconds is just a damage transfer (so not really invulnerability).
Warriors can be considered the ones with Invulnerability. Not us.

the only reason you don’t see any actual builds running 2 or more of the invulns we have access to is because WE DONT NEED IT, Warriors without their “slam face on utility keys to get invuln” build were considered trash because they’d just die. Where is rangers run most builds without taking a single one of our 3 invulns and have little to no issue surviving.

That alone proves that us needing more health because we have no survivability is bull kitten, and if you wanted to go for a trolly invuln build and literally just sit on a point being a kitten the whole game you can. But we don’t because we, unlike guardians, are capable of doing more than just falling on a point and not moving because of our mobility and range access.

Just because something isn’t meta, doesn’t mean it’s not good.

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Ranger Needs to Become "High" HP Prof

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18 seconds from where.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/%22Protect_Me!%22

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Signet_of_Stone

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Forage_

Factor in all the evasion and blocks we have too and it’ll get much higher, not to mention we have what is probably the highest HPS in the game, and it’s far from bad even without healing power and the amount of CC our pets can pump out even while we’re downed/CCed is ridiculous.

NOTE the tooltip for elixir of heroes is wrong, it has been since beta, it lasts 6s not 3s.

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Ranger Needs to Become "High" HP Prof

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We got tons of evades, damage invulnerability,

no, we do not.

We can have 18s of pure invulnerability, we have the most access to invuln in the entire game, yes, yes we do.

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As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna

Druid Healer Confirmed - Feedback [merged]

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Very possible that we’ll get 30-40 minutes of show time. Intro may be 15 minutes. Then druid showcase for 30-40 minutes musical performance for maybe 15 minutes or so. Then adventures in GW2 for a solid 30 minutes. Then they get the live stage at 3pm EST for 15 minutes. They have plenty of time from 1 pm to 3 pm in order to dedicate a full 30 minutes slot for Druid.

Not a kitten chance Druid gets 30 minutes lol.

It will be a miracle if they even get 10-15….

All they will do is show off a few animations on the staff… some new traits and thats about it… might spew off some other misc details and future outlook but thats about it.

I have no reason at all to believe anet cares that much about ranger to devote a 30 minute segment on a live, major platform. We (the ranger community) is a small part of the audience. Anet wants to get on with the goodies, hence start off with the druid reveal to get it out the way quickly so anet can get to the actual stuff the majority of the audience wants to see.

We are actually the most popular class in GW2 in terms of almost everyone has a ranger, so changes to ranger will affect a significantly larger amount of players (whether it’s their main or alt) than it would the ele or Mesmer.

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Druid concept art reveal

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In b4 “druid is so bad I’m quitting”

…can I have your stuff?

Nothing can be as bad as Dragon Hunter folks, absolutely nothing…

I think Dragon Hunter is cool. It might not be great, but I think the concept is nice.

It should have been Sentinel instead of Dragon Hunter, that would’ve fit the class more, with wells instead of traps that give buffs to allies and condis to ennemies, improved virtues and CC Longbow skills…

Yeah, maybe if it was a sentinel, but it’s not, this is a sort of inquisitor version of guardian. This isn’t the guy who protects everyone, this is the guy who hunts down evil and puts an end to it, it’s selfish and it’s there to put an end to the target, not to help allies.

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What kind of Druid will YOU be? VOTE!

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Is this some kind of reference? If so, what to?

I’m hoping there’s an option for being a poison or terrain druid myself. But I’m happy to settle for a good old fashioned Wild Shape caster Druid build. Popping in and out the ground as a mole calling lightning and curing wounds never gets old.

I always preferred becoming a flee and jumping on and off of my animal companion/other nearby people myself!

Wild Shape is too much fun.

Also the reference is to WoW

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What kind of Druid will YOU be? VOTE!

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My answer is yes, because picking just one is for posers

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Druid concept art reveal

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So I went to Wikipedia to search for druid.
Turns out they were famous for making sacrifices.

It said: “These men predict the future by observing the flight and calls of birds and by the sacrifice of holy animals: all orders of society are in their power… and in very important matters they prepare a human victim, plunging a dagger into his chest; by observing the way his limbs convulse as he falls and the gushing of his blood, they are able to read the future.”

Imagine sacrificing your pet and your foes o.O

In real life, yes they did perform sacrifices for certain rituals, but in almost all fantasy the generic Druid wouldn’t dream of sacrificing an animal for anything but the most dire of circumstances so I don’t see us actually doing that.

That being said if we get the bad kitten Druid that performs ritualistic sacrifices I’d be kittening ecstatic.

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Druid concept art reveal

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I’ve been wrong about a lot of these, but I’ll take a wild swing anyway:

Pet swap will be removed and Rangers will instead cycle their solitary pet through season-related Aspects. Aspect swapping will work with all existing pet swap traits and will have huge benefits for the pet. If the pet isn’t an intangible spirit, then swapping Aspect will provide a huge heal for your pet, possibly even restoring it to full health.

This is actually very similar to what i was thinking would happen too, and the attunements would alter your pets abilities to make them fit w/e theme.

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Druid concept art reveal

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Seem to be handling its staff like a melee weapon… Again a melee staff? On the trailer it looked more like a casting weapon…

I don’t expect a full blown ranged pewpew weapon. Maybe some type of mid-range? Maybe we get guardian loot stick !

This is how i’ve been thinking our staff will end up, I highly doubt it’ll be a full melee, or full ranged weapon, probably something closer to our axe where it’s good at range, but has perks to going into melee range.

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Druid concept art reveal

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hmm am I the only one who sees a shadow creature thingy with a yellow eye in the background (the green shadow besides the druid)? or is that nothing?

No, that was the very first thing i saw too, kinda looks like a mix between a panther and an oakheart, and if it IS what i think it is, that fits with the original picture of the Ranger, who had a panther.

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Druid concept art reveal

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Oh look it’s the reaper picture! I don’t see a deathshroud though, they probably don’t have it anymore…

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Quickening zephyr: fast pet, slow ranger?

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Super speed in combat puts you at the out of combat cap movement speed.

Your pet does NOT have the same cap as a player, so it’s capable of moving faster than you in any scenario.

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[Suggestion] New Sic Em

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They just need to make it so that Sic’Em! Doesn’t get its effects canceled, then it’d be a great skill.

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Do we have a forum volunteer...

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I will be definitely be online testing the Druid and gathering any and all feedback I see on anything involving it, I’ve been waiting for too long to let anything as silly as real life interfere with my druid playtime…

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Ranger concerns

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Blizzard is more serious and professionnal than Anet. They provide a true beta server and all classes get their new stuff for the very beginning, so you can test whatever class you want and when you want.

And if you play as a Hunter you get the new stuff you got last xpac taken away and completely scrapped for the next xpac, same can be said with Druid in many situations.

I’d rather take slightly unpolished content than to have some of my favorite things REMOVED because of stupid reasons like “it was too complicated for some players”.

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Ranger concerns

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Hey now, there’s a small chance that A-net might just slap the Dro0d together and accidentally make it OP! …And then neglect to make any changes to it for 3 years.

If this were ele or warrior you might be right, but this is ranger, they’ve released several batches of content (Vine wraith, Aetherblade Retreate, scarlet achievements, liadri etc) where your pet, the kittening class mechanic, is either entirerly worthless because it gets 1 shot by an easy to avoid mechanic that NPCs can’t do (EX: jumping over shockwaves).

It’s pretty fair to assume that if anything we’re going to be on the complete opposite side of the spectrum, completely worthless, and untouched for 3 years.

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Give me a Legendary Mawdrey

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Instead of having the one vine growing over your left shoulder they could make it so there’s 4 vines or so all growing out around from the center of your back

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Ranger concerns

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I don’t get this. Are people saying they’re rather have the game launch delayed longer so that we can have more BWE’s to flesh out the elite specializatons. There were always going to be differences in when things are released.

To me I’d rather see the game launch on time and see the problems addressed as time goes on. Because even a long open beta, like we had with EoTM doesn’t guarantee there won’t be myriad problems after release anyway.

People are saying they’d rather them have just released all the elite specs together so they could get equal testing, which would be far better than giving some professions the shaft for no real reason other than marketing.

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Give me a Legendary Mawdrey

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I would be so happy if they made a legendary mawdrey! Especially if it talked, Feed Me!

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I think devs have already stated that work on the specialisations will continue after HoT has launched if necessary.

Well i’d kittening hope so, if things are unbalanced they need to be fixed, regardless of what it is.

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Enlargement + Most Dangerous game

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I don’t think they’d give us any defensive proc at 25% if we were getting both berserk and fury, the point of MDG is a lot of risk being with a great reward.

Well, we’ve got the risk part right…. just waiting on the reward…

I’d like to see us pulse 3s of Quickness every 3s ontop of Berserk + Fury when we’re below 25% health, now THAT would be scary, you can bring your own defensive CD to sit in that area a bit longer, a build revolving around MDG would probably WANT to bring both Protect Me and Sig of Stone just so they can sit at 25% or lower HP and wreck people.

People need to keep in mind that Grandmaster traits are designed to be, in arena nets words build defining they’re not meant to be one stop shops, like a lot of you are suggesting, they’re something strong that you’d actually build around. And MDG giving you more and more power as you get lower in HP is exactly what that would be. it proccing a defensive CD does not only not fit with the trait, but it also doesn’t fit with the theme of GMs.

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Hope, Beyond Hope...

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yes that would’ve been good. Pets really would have made a great elite spec and traps would have made great ranger class mechanic.

I’m sorry you spelt Preperations wrong

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''Protect me''

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Pets have no armor, so even the ones with high toughness take lethal damage much faster than a Ranger.

Pets actually do have a base armor, it’s just hidden, not to mention that pets have significantly higher health than the ranger (especially in PvE).

While using protect me you essentially can’t use your pet for anything else. Issuing any command to your pet while the shout is active will cancel the spell. No f2s for cc. No attacking. No swapping pets. After that as long as you’re using a pet that’s tanky enough it usually works great.

This, if you’re using a canine, bear, boar, drake, devourer, or spider you should be able to use protect me with almost no risk of your pet dying.

If you’re using a bird or a cat on the other hand, you should take signet of stone instead of protect me, otherwise it’ll die no questions asked during a protect me.

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Tentonhammer posted an article

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Gotta say, this little joke escalated a lot farther than I ever thought, lets hope Anet actually does something about the issues we have…

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[Feedback] BWE - Ranger (next Druid)

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When you cut off a head, two more grow back!

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Cele Ranger For HoT

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I think they’ll keep instakill mechanics, but I feel like they’re going to have enough unavoidable (well MOSTLY unavoidable) damage that you’ll need to have defensive stats present on at least a few of the raid members so they either 1) tank mobs for the squishier members 2) can live long enough to Rez the squishier members or 3) to do something common in other MMOs where you have to stack to absorb a hit (damage spread equally)

I feel like we will see at least one of those used enough to stop the WHOLE raid from running zerker. I do hope they allow zerkers to still be a thing though. I personally like to play Jack of All trades res builds (celestial + mercy runes) which work really well at babysitting zerkers (at the moment in PvE it only helps bad ones) , which may become a real thing in the “raid meta” if they make much needed changes.

Also, didn’t they say they were changing fractals to be less instakill? I thought I read that in the blog, but I could be mistaking what people are hoping for with what’s been said.

I somewhat believe that if defense becomes relevant – conditions will become the source of damage. Those only need 1 stat to do their job to the fullest unlike Direct.
If Power builds find themselves in need of defense – I believe mix of crusader-like stats would be the answer (Power>Tough>Fero>healing). Especially for Necros and Rangers since they don’t really need much precision.

If they make content where you need healing – you’ll need lots of it. That amount from Celestial would not be enough (we are talking about raids difficulty, let’s be real).
Vitality is not really helping at all. It’s job and role is taken by Toughness.
The only place where Vitality might seem relevant is conditions – and cleanse just beats it to the ground.

So one way or another, I still don’t really see celestial any worth since that’s already 2 stats that you “waste”.

I think it really depends on the build, for example, a build that has AoE regen or invigorating bond could benefit from the healing power by making the healing not as bad (it’s certainly not a focus of the build otherwise you’d use clerics or nomads), not to mention healing power ALWAYS benefits you as a ranger, every point of healing power is another point of health you get from your HP since our heals pretty much all have a 1:1 ratio.

Vitality helps a little since our condi removal is pretty bad in most builds, so it can give you just a little bit more health to help deal with it and allow your AoE condi cleanses to not have to be blown just because you may have kittened up and got hit by condis when the rest of the group hasn’t and you know you’ll want the cleanse(s) later or something.

Essentially, celestial is a solid choice if your build actually takes advantage of all the stats, i think you need to utilize at least 5 of them for it to be worth thinking about, and then if you utilize ALL of them it’s better than everything else. But those builds aren’t that common, and normally require you to be pretty jack of all tradesy, which MOST people don’t even like to play, let alone actually play.

That being said, i’m pretty sure you’re right with the stat our damage builds would use, hell we might even be able to get away with zerker even if there IS unavoidable damage just by using a longbow build. I mean we can already outrange most dangers, and i’m almost positive a full zerker longbow build would outdamage a more melee focused build that has to use mixed stats.

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Don’t get me wrong, i think defensive stats are worth investing in if the content is going to be challenging, but if the content remains as is (IE everything that can kill you is easily dodgeable), then no you shouldn’t invest in defensive stats if you are going for the most optimal route.

That being said, I do use Cele on my ranger because neither I, nor anyone i run with care for the fastest clear time and cele stats are better for when i want to WvW and I have no room for a second set of armor. But that doesn’t mean i’ll be spreading false information about how defensive stats are super great in the current PvE meta. I do think that raids will kill the full zerker meta, but i doubt zerker as a whole will die (IE the group may require having 3 non zerkers or something).

Yep, I believe that with the introduction of Nomad, there might be a need for a person going full tank. Like holding a switch in dmg aura AoE while the others pass a phase?

But those will be specifics like I mentioned. If it is needed – it will be specified, not a requirement for everybody to invest into.
If they want to promote those defensive stats – they have to reduce damage and make it unavoidable. And that I don’t really think is going to happen.
You already get insta-killed if you fail to dodge in 50 fractals. Making content more challenging is not going to be a damage reduction on NPCs.

But if they do implement the mechanics that I stated – we might need it. It’s exactly like that. But I haven’t seen any sign of that, so far.

I think they’ll keep instakill mechanics, but I feel like they’re going to have enough unavoidable (well MOSTLY unavoidable) damage that you’ll need to have defensive stats present on at least a few of the raid members so they either 1) tank mobs for the squishier members 2) can live long enough to Rez the squishier members or 3) to do something common in other MMOs where you have to stack to absorb a hit (damage spread equally)

I feel like we will see at least one of those used enough to stop the WHOLE raid from running zerker. I do hope they allow zerkers to still be a thing though. I personally like to play Jack of All trades res builds (celestial + mercy runes) which work really well at babysitting zerkers (at the moment in PvE it only helps bad ones) , which may become a real thing in the “raid meta” if they make much needed changes.

Also, didn’t they say they were changing fractals to be less instakill? I thought I read that in the blog, but I could be mistaking what people are hoping for with what’s been said.

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It was satirical.

Sorry, from all what he wrote I couldn’t really tell. He seems pretty sure about it.

Don’t get me wrong, i think defensive stats are worth investing in if the content is going to be challenging, but if the content remains as is (IE everything that can kill you is easily dodgeable), then no you shouldn’t invest in defensive stats if you are going for the most optimal route.

That being said, I do use Cele on my ranger because neither I, nor anyone i run with care for the fastest clear time and cele stats are better for when i want to WvW and I have no room for a second set of armor. But that doesn’t mean i’ll be spreading false information about how defensive stats are super great in the current PvE meta. I do think that raids will kill the full zerker meta, but i doubt zerker as a whole will die (IE the group may require having 3 non zerkers or something).

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Resounding Timbre: Thoughts on Boons

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Anyone else think Resounding Timbre could use the Experimental Turrets or Nature’s Vengeance treatment in terms of each shout granting a different boon when traited for? Swiftness and Regeneration on every shout seems rather lackluster, especially when Rangers seem to be the King of Regeneration already.

Perhaps mix things up a bit while keeping the Swiftness support in there? This is a what I thought of when I state this. What are your thoughts?

I’d be up for this, but as i’ve said multiple times, Protect Me! should give retal since it’d double dip (when you and your pet have retal and you’ve got protect me they take double retal damage for hitting you).

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Snipping

Every single second the NPC lives longer – your party suffers from damage.
By being selfish with defensive stats – you are harmful to whole party including yourself.

And most importantly, OP, don’t forget that dodge rolling to avoid damage is also being selfish with defence because that’s time you’re not spending mashing 1. Your party will and should hate you for it.

I’m screenshotting this for how true it is lol

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That being said, I don’t think the elite specs are as necissary as a lot of people are acting like, people just haven’t learned the tells on the scarier abilities yet so they’re just eating everything. I really don’t think any prof is that bad overall, daredevil and revenant are probably the two id say are the greatest offenders, but that’s because all their high damage kitten has evades on it.

And early in the game they nerfed other abilities prematurely due to the player base not being experienced why stop a time honored tradition just for the sake of new elites/professions.

I’m hoping they’re not going to follow that tradition, at least the first time around no one (well very few) had even the basics down, so ebeeything seemed stronger/weaker than it should’ve. Now people SHOULD know what’s going on, but that still doesn’t seem to be the case for most people.

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well i pve more then anything and i do fractals more then anything in the game so wvw isnt that big of an issue for me haha never do dungeons because there not a challenge and are boring to me, Fractals for life haha

im just worried that the damage outcome if i swap to celestial is too low if that make sense, i know you can play any stats in pve.

im gonna wait for druid to be revealed aswel because if its mainly damage and healing/buffing, a mix of everything would be great.

If you’re worried about your damage dropping i’d recommend that whatever build you run with celestial is hybrid damage (both physical and condi), if you do that your damage wont be that low. However, if you try to run a pure condi or power build with celestial and just take celestial for the defensive stats you’re going to have a bad time.

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Celestial will give you a good amount of everything, so if you’re running a tankier, or supportive build or a jack of all trades build yes.

If you just plan on playing a damage oriented build though with very minor support is just stick with zerker, or swap to say Knights or Valk or a mix.

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D/D ele is still stupid good, I feel that other than that as long as I really focus on my positioning I can handle most classes. Thieves/ burst guards still get chewed up by over-extending into a BW/ LB#4. mud, etangle combos.

Mesmers are what I have found to be a new problem. I can’t deal with the cc/ stupid burst combos other than SoS. Which only saves you for so long. I can’t get my pet on the actual mes fast enough to make it a fair fight, I either run/ reset with odds still not in my favor or die. Didn’t seem like that a week ago, Had a very easy time sticking to mesmer with channel skills/ pet etc.

Thief can be annoying but still feels like a fair fight.

Other than that I really feel like i lose because of skill, not match ups. But d/d ele is just silly atm.

Well D/D ele is going to be nerfed so….

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The revenant sword 3 for example. Its basically “Im going to attack you four 4-5 seconds and there is litteraly nothing you can do to stop me except burn a cooldown…but evasion cooldowns won’t work cause Ill simply teleport to you.” Its extremely frustrating when im getting hit by this since the only thing I can do to actually stop it is pop signet of stone. If this skill actually had an aoe in which it was active but it would cancel if the target left that aoe I feel it would be okay. But even popping lightning reflexes doesn’t do much here.

Yeah there is a reason people hate rapidfire. Now you know how they feel ;-)

Yeah, but I can reflect and interrupt rapid fire, last BWE I was able to interrupt their little sword nonsense and had no issue with them, now it’s “dodge or take a lot of damage”.

That being said, I don’t think the elite specs are as necissary as a lot of people are acting like, people just haven’t learned the tells on the scarier abilities yet so they’re just eating everything. I really don’t think any prof is that bad overall, daredevil and revenant are probably the two id say are the greatest offenders, but that’s because all their high damage kitten has evades on it.

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Search and rescue and Allies aid

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Quickness increases the speed of ressing by 25% according to the wiki, so its not better.

The 20% you get from mercy runes + allies aid stack with quickness, so you can very easily just use both, while rezzing almost as fast as someone using quickness without having to pop your own.

At some point, it’s redundant and overkill; a quickness rezz is generally more than enough to get off clutch rezzes, and too much focusing on rezzing ability brings down your other abilities. Wouldn’t you rather pop a utility (quickness) and be able to use it for something else 48 seconds later, than tie up an entire rune spot for the whole game?

Not really because with mercy runes the person also gets rezzed at half health instead of like 1/4th or however low normal people Rez them at, and you get a huge surge of toughness while rezzing which makes it so you are able to eat the cleave with very little drawback since you’re probably already pretty tanky.

And with the new trait changes you actually don’t even give up much to become a super rezzer, you take mercy runes and one adept trait and you’re good to go. Everything else can augment your rezzing ability, but can also be used for actual control or damage IE: Taunt trait and quickness swap.

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Spirits now more pointless than ever

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You know what they need? Reflect projectiles.

First copying experimental turrets and now advanced turrets? Really? You want to clone turrets completely? XD

Anet did say that they wanted spirits to be the buff version of turrets…

I doubt they meant that spirits will have the exact same traits, they meant them to be stationary buff machines, turrets are stationary damage machines, that’s all. ^^

Lol oh I know, I was just making a joke

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Quickness increases the speed of ressing by 25% according to the wiki, so its not better.

The 20% you get from mercy runes + allies aid stack with quickness, so you can very easily just use both, while rezzing almost as fast as someone using quickness without having to pop your own.

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You know what they need? Reflect projectiles.

First copying experimental turrets and now advanced turrets? Really? You want to clone turrets completely? XD

Anet did say that they wanted spirits to be the buff version of turrets…

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Dardamanic don’t worry, they don’t realize how the build works, i’ve ran as a rez ranger since like 2 months after the game came out (my builds been tweaked quite a bit since then but the goal has been the same), and have tried to share it on the forums multiple times to people just not getting how it works at all, and just bashing it because they just don’t get it.

I didn’t look through your exact build, but i can guarantee you the theme works, and if you like that play style stick to it. I personally run LR and Protect Me over Sig of stone and sig of the wild, but that’s because i really like the quickness on swap trait for the rez build (even though the taunt is so good…), it’s saved more lives than i can think lol.

I also use a Brown Bear and a Fernhound for the AoE 4k heal + regen on the fernhound (with invigorating bond) and the AoE condi Cleanse and meat shield on the bear.

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