Guild Wars 2

Yesterday we were defending Durios, so I tried setting up an arrow cart and it got destroyed almost immediately, even though I had set it up to be hidden behind the bridge. It turns out that it was killed by an arrow cart that was closer to Stonemist than it was to Durios. Is this really intended?

I marked where I tried building my arrow cart with a red dot in the attached map, and where the enemy arrow cart was with a blue dot. (The screenshot is not from that battle, I’m just using it to show positions.)

Silicato.4603:

Braham, on the contrary, I don´t like him. He looks to me like the eternal secondary, behind of the real protagonists.

Which is perfect. We don’t want another Kormir or Trahearne taking the spotlight from the players.

Parisalchuk.9230:

So this update is a total of a small PvE questline that will likely take 30 mins like Flame and Frost and EB JP being an instance. Thats it?

Sad…

Free content makes you sad? Anyway, you missed the most important part, WvW traps!

Rimu.7105:

Gabal, they changed that, go look, it saids Title: Yakslapper now.

I noticed that yesterday and updated the wiki to reflect that. I was excited. XD

So really they’re just making Obsidian Sanctum its own map. As players, the only differences we’ll see are slightly fewer queues to get into EB and a separation of jump puzzle chat from EB chat.

For the record, here are the ranger changes from the patch that Linnes is referring to as “nothing”:

Ranger

Tail Wind trait: Now has an internal cooldown of 9 seconds.
Furious Grip trait: Now has an internal cooldown of 9 seconds.
“Guard” skill: Reduced cooldown from 30 seconds to 15 seconds.
“Sic ’Em” skill: Reduced cooldown to 40 seconds from 60 seconds.
Lightning Reflexes skill: Reduced cooldown from 45 seconds to 40 seconds.
Signet of Stone skill:
Reduced cooldown from 120 seconds to 80 seconds.
Increased passive toughness by 100%.
Now allows capture of control points in all formats and communing in PvP.
Signet of the Wild skill: Reduced cooldown from 120 seconds to 60 seconds and duration from 12 seconds to 8 seconds.
Spiritual Knowledge trait: Increased activation chance from 15% to 35%.
Swoop skill: Corrected the damage indicated in the skill fact.
Increased health of all non-elite spirits by 60%.
“Search and Rescue” skill:
Increased cooldown from 85 seconds to 180 seconds in PvP.
No longer revives defeated allies.
Point Blank Shot skill: No longer has an increased cast time when the Eagle Eye trait is equipped.
Quickening Zephyr skill:
Increased duration by 1 second.
Players are now healed at 50% effectiveness (increased from 0%) when under the effects of this skill.

Pet Attributes

Adjusted health and/or armor of ranger pets:
Ursine pets: health increased from 26,000 to 29982; armor is now 2061 (up 687). Polar bear’s power now matches that of all other bear pets.
Dogs: health increased from 13,000 to 14,868; armor is 2061 (no change).
Cats: health increased from 13,000 to 14,868; armor is 1374 (no change).
Devourers: health increased from 11,089 to 14868; armor is 2748 (no change).
Birds: health increased from 11,894 to 14,868; armor is 1374 (no change).
Drakes: health increased from 11,683 to 22,425; armor is 2061 (no change).
Spiders: health increased from 18,646 to 22,425; armor is 1374 (no change).
Pigs: health increased from 20,538 to 22,425; armor is now 2061 (up 687).
Moas: health increased from 16,781 to 22,425; armor is 1374 (no change).
Armor Fish: health increased from 16,781 to 22,452; armor is now 2748 (up 343).
Jellyfish: health increased from 11,089 to 22,425; armor is 1374 (no change).
Shark: health increased from 13,000 to 22,425; armor is now 2061 (up 687).

Canine Skills

Intimidating Howl skill: Reduced cast time from 2 seconds to 1.5 seconds.
Regenerate skill: Reduced cast time from 2 seconds to 1.5 seconds.
Howl of the Pack skill: Reduced cast time from 2 seconds to 1.5 seconds.
Chilling Howl skill: Reduced cast time from 2 seconds to 1.5 seconds.
Terrifying Howl skill: Reduced cast time from 2 seconds to 1.5 seconds.

Drake Skills

Lightning Breath skill: Reduced cast time from 2.7 seconds to 1.5 seconds. The lightning from this attack no longer tracks targets.
Fire Breath skill: Reduced cast time from 2.7 seconds to 1.5 seconds.
Insect Swarm skill: Reduced cast time from 2.7 seconds to 1.5 seconds.
Frost Breath skill: Reduced cast time from 2.7 seconds to 1.5 seconds.

Feline Skills

Icy Pounce skill: Reduced cast time from 2 seconds to 1.5 seconds.
Rending Pounce skill: Reduced cast time from 2 seconds to 1.5 seconds.

Jellyfish Skills

Immobilizing Whirl skill: Now sticks on its target instead of passing through.
Chilling Whirl skill: Now sticks on its target instead of passing through.
Poisoning Whirl skill: Now sticks on its target instead of passing through.

TheMightyAltroll.3485:

All of this proves to me that Designers do not listen to players, or even know what is happening with half of the gameplay.

I, and many others, asked them to fix the rainbow jellyfish. The reason this thread exists in the first place is because they are listening to players. Also, did you read Jon’s post at all?

JonPeters.5630:

Post your thoughts on this internet forum thread and I will read them.

What do you guys think about unlinking the waypoint’s contested status from the structure’s contested status? That way we can all still get our “under attack” notification ASAP, but waypoints would only become unavailable at a time that makes more sense.

I suggest reverting each structure’s contested mechanics as they were before the recently added 30 second wait, and making it so that waypoints are only contested if one of more part of the structure (walls or gates) is under 75% health.

EnemyCrusher.7324:

Enough with the immature, off topic, negative comments. You are not helping.

@Linnes If you have something to say about how you want the new version of the Rainbow Jellyfish to look, we’d love to here it.

Deniara Devious.3948:

DevonCarver.5370:

The timer works like this: When you deploy a siege site, if you don’t put supply into it for 2 minutes, it will despawn. Every time you put supply in, it will get a new timer of 5 minutes. Once siege is fully built, it has the 30 minute timer. That timer resets every time someone uses the weapon.

The two minute limit is way too low. Have you ever played the game on a very badly outmanned borderlands? If you have just you and 1 other, how you are supposed to build any siege?

Please increase the siege despawn timer to at least 10 minutes, so you can make a supply run.

I urge the developers to play on such servers and borderlands which are heavily outmanned, then you know how badly balanced your game is. Well-designed game is fun for everyone, not just for those who can faceroll by superior numbers and sitting in their T3 keeps and towers, which are full of superior arrow carts.

We are desperately needing a total turn of the current “patches”, which are basically giving more and more power to the stronger side. We need real outmanned buff for the weaker side.

Just don’t drop the blueprint until you, or someone around you, has the supply to start building it. It shouldn’t take you more than 2 minutes to go from using the blueprint to adding the first supply.

I have to admit, seeing enemy titles has its advantages.

I was casually leading a group of ~20 in WvW one time while titles were displayed. Most of our group had either ‘God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals’ or ‘Been There, Done That.’ We went down one of the borderland cliff paths and saw an enemy group of ~30. I decided to charge them head on because most of them were lacking titles, and the few that did have titles were mostly ‘Volunteer’, ‘Apprentice Toymaker’, and ‘Combat Healer’. Despite being outnumbered we killed them all in about one minute.

I’m not saying you should do this, just stating the math…

If you get a minimum wage job ($7.25/hour assuming you live in the US) then at current gem to gold rates ($0.53 per gold), ignoring taxes, you’d be able to get 13.67 gold per hour if you spent all of your profits on gems to gold. If you make that a $10/hour job, you could afford 18.86 gold per hour.

If you get each charged lodestone at 2.8 gold, it will cost 980 gold total. So…

[(Charged Lodestone cost) * (Charged Lodestones needed)] / [(hourly wage) / (cost of 1 gold in USD)] = (Hours of work required)

(2.8*350)/(7.25/.53) = 71.64 hours

If we assume you work at that job full time (40 hours per week) it will take you less than two weeks to get the gold you need.

tl;dr – A minimum wage, full time job can pay for 350 Charged Lodestones in under two weeks.

I’ve been playing in EB for the past two hours and in that entire time, IoJ hasn’t attacked a single DH structure and DH hasn’t attacked a single IoJ structure. What’s going on guys? I thought this tier was above secret alliances.

Paul Belz.7351:

We ended up making a “molten” species for these enemies, so that they can share loot drops and other behind the scenes stuff.

Unfortunately, this means they are technically not part of the flame legion or dredge family, and your potions will not help you.

Thanks for the info….I’ll stop wasting potions now.

I like cleaner UI, but something does feel wrong about this change (aside from the missing patch notes). WvW has the hardest to get titles in the game, yet its now the only place where no one can see them.

Rika.7249:

Same dungeon, same lack of loot. Same wasted time.

It had great gameplay and bad loot, which is perfect for letting players enjoy the content rather than farm countless boring hours to get the shiniest new weapon.

I agree that Healing Signet at level 80 is next to useless and needs a buff. That being said, its passive effect is actually great for low level warriors. If it does get a buff, it should be scaled to make a bigger difference for high level warriors.

King Amadaeus.8619:

EnemyCrusher.7324:

King Amadaeus.8619:

naphack.9346:

What’s up, SF? Only such a small lead?

It is a pretty tight match really, and we do not have any nighttime folks, well we do just not in the numbers that we are reportedly going up against at night.

Hang in there guys and keep grinding, we will get it sorted.

What? We have a bunch of nighttime people, that’s usually when we shine.

I would point you to the thread created to recruit oceanic timezone players, as this has been a known coverage gap for SF for a very long time. “Nighttime” was perhaps a poor choice of words: basically we have poor coverage during the NA Midnight-ish to 6AM, and then most of the work/school day as we have found out.

While this might not seem like a “gap” up til this point, DH and IoJ focus has proven it to be an issue. Also if you are still wondering if this is indeed true, I would point you back to our T8 days and the infamous “kangaroo cappers” from ET that enjoyed the run of the joint during these same “oceanic hours”.

Oh, then I agree with you completely. We’ve been hurting in early morning. The other servers in tiers 7 and 8 didn’t have many early morning players either, so our weakness wasn’t really exposed until now.

If it’s the intended behavior that some minipets work in water and some don’t, could you guys either mention that on the minis that don’t work in water, or possibly use the little “no water” icon that land-only skills have? (Optimally they would all have swimming animations, but I doubt that will happen.)

Rising Dusk.2408:

I liked, more than anything, that Braham actually intelligently used his shield of absorption. Rob Hrouda tells us that this is nothing special for the AI, but I was genuinely impressed when Braham blocked like 12 incoming projectiles at once with his timing. I’ve played FotM 48 with some Guardians who aren’t as useful as him, and that’s saying something.

I was impressed with Braham too, he’s very resilient for an NPC and the first in a long time that I’ve actually wanted to res mid-battle because he could turn the tide.

jaikrsna.1079:

Chameleon.5326:

MatthewMedina.5419:

Instead we focused our time and energy into making a really unique, polished and hopefully memorable encounter that enables any group of five to complete in roughly an hour.

Some of us dont have the luxury of a whole uninterrupted hour. :-(

Some of us shouldn’t be playing video games then…

I think you mean “Some of us shouldn’t be sleeping then…”

I stayed up until 4am last night to enjoy the new content with my friends and somehow still made it to work on time this morning.

I played this dungeon with four of my friends last night and we all really enjoyed it. We were excited for the mid-dungeon boss fight but we were all especially impressed with the final bosses.

As a permanent dungeon this probably would have been too easy since most of the difficulty (and a lot of the fun) comes from learning how the mechanics work. As temporary content though, I think it is excellent.

Mayhem.1935:

Does SF have any roamers or small party play at all? All i see are zergballs of SF fighting our zergballs of DH. I know their are some seriously good players around, but i have yet to see them!

I’m a SF roamer…although people tend to start following me after a bit.

King Amadaeus.8619:

naphack.9346:

What’s up, SF? Only such a small lead?

It is a pretty tight match really, and we do not have any nighttime folks, well we do just not in the numbers that we are reportedly going up against at night.

Hang in there guys and keep grinding, we will get it sorted.

What? We have a bunch of nighttime people, that’s usually when we shine.

To all the people complaining about the timers:

1. The timers are not new, they have existed since the game released.

2. Before this patch, timers were inconsistent and would sometimes cause siege to despawn, sometimes not.

3. The two minute timer after a blueprint is laid out is new, but only applies if no supply is used on it at all.

Everyone calm now? Carry on.

lordkrall.7241:

EnemyCrusher.7324:

I would love for these to be tradeable (in a better way than having to drop them on the ground), but I’m concerned that if we can sell them on the TP, servers that have earned and shared a lot of blueprints will suffer. Richer servers will buy up most of the blueprints and there will be no more incentive to help your fellow players through the jump puzzles to earn blueprints for your server because most of them will just sell them.

The bolded part is a good thing though.
People wasting time in the JP is quite often not helping the server.

Our server often takes all of EB at night and then we help people with the jump puzzle there. Stocking up on siege blueprints is not “wasting time”.

Possible 3rd bug: It seems that guardian virtues remain active during keg brawl. These should be disabled so guardians don’t get to block extra attacks.

If thieves are really glitching through walls, I’d prefer a fix to that over a fix to corpses staying where they died.

Tuluum.9638:

airstu.2579:

Detharos.3157:

Sorrow’s Furnace will just keep doing its thing like it always has.

Pushing 1 and exclaiming their success is because of superior skills instead of overwhelming numbers.

Sorry mate, but SF’s zerg is good. Yes, they obviously have pretty overwhelming numbers for these tiers as well, but they have seemingly managed to get like 99% of people on the map in a single moving blob. My only issues are that I dont particularly enjoy the play, and I cant really even see individual guild names or tags unless I select one person. Just a big red blotch covering most of my screen, lol.

But, they obviously have skill and excellent response time. The tactic wouldnt be successful otherwise.

I am most interested to see how many DHers are fairweather and which ones arent to get a true feel of our servers capability.

Were you there in last night’s DH borderland fight for the keeps? I don’t think I’ve ever seen two servers keep each other on their toes like that before.

Score update. 15 characters.

MrFluffy.9307:

Did SF get alot of transfers? If not please explain what the kitten you were doing in t7 with these kinds of numbers. (notice the 2 orange swords on IoJ borderland; those weren’t ours)

They way the rating system works causes a trap in tier 8 where no one can get out. We were stuck in tier 8 for 4 or 5 months. Anet put an additional temporary reward for tier 8 a few weeks ago and we broke free into tier 7. We spent 3 weeks in tier 7 and now we’re in tier 6. No transfers, just an artificially low rating and a lot of nocturnal players.

Hello Darkhaven and Isle of Janthir! The first few hours of this match have been great and I look forward to the rest of it.

BTW I’m the spikey charr defending our keeps in DH borderlands right now.

DevonCarver.5370:

Account bound, eh? I don’t want to spoil the next patch, but I’ll just say you’ll be happy with at least 1 thing in there.The reason they are not tradeable at the moment is due to code, something we are in the process of addressing.

I would love for these to be tradeable (in a better way than having to drop them on the ground), but I’m concerned that if we can sell them on the TP, servers that have earned and shared a lot of blueprints will suffer. Richer servers will buy up most of the blueprints and there will be no more incentive to help your fellow players through the jump puzzles to earn blueprints for your server because most of them will just sell them.

I feel like the downed system is a great mechanic, especially in WvW. Players who are trying to save other downed players are often easy prey. Plus, if you can’t finish off downed players even with the downed penalty and finisher mechanics, you don’t deserve the kill.

That being said, I respect your complaints, but propose a different solution:
1. Elementalists in Mist Form can’t pass through gates.
2. Finishers can’t be used on Outmanned players.

Seyyah.6135:

i assume, you guys should fix the class itself first… but as you said… you know what happens when you assume…

Bane.3127:

How about someone reminds you how broken traits, pets, spirits, signet cooldowns and dungeon rangers are?

Leaf.3156:

Yes, this is TOTALLY what the ranger needs.

Not fixing their horrid trait lines, not improving pet AI, not making utility skills actually bring some UTILITY in a team, no, what rangers really need is a fix for the rainbow freaking jellyfish texture.

RANGERS ARE SAVED

Bailey.6892:

Seyyah.6135:

i assume, you guys should fix the class itself first… but as you said… you know what happens when you assume…

But that’s hard and they haven’t had time to really work on the ranger class just since beta but what ever.

Seriously fix the kitten class first.

Enough with the immature, off topic, negative comments. You are not helping.

This change probably takes one designer and one artist, which takes zero resources away from the balance team, so relax.

I would love to see the rainbow jellyfish skin changed to not be identical to the blue jellyfish, the the new version in the image provided just looks…blue. Please make it live up to its name.

Azaruil.3406:

Trebs should do more damage against walls but have their range reduced enough that you cannot simply treb from one structure to another. It completely trivializes sieges as you could put hard work into taking something, only to have some kitten with nothing better to do, treb it down from a keep where you cant take it out.

So they should be catapults?

Josh Foreman.8250:

…By the time we release World 4, the entire game will be complete and playable from start to finish, along with hard mode, and hopefully some other modes we have in mind.

Can’t wait!

Farzo.8410:

EnemyCrusher.7324:

Sweet. You should give Josh and Anet rights to use that in future SAB updates. It would make great boss fight music

While dubstep is close to 8-bit music I don’t think it would fit the SAB :P

I was thinking there could be an exception to that for a bonus stage. Also, the second half isn’t that dubstep-y. I suppose you’re still right though. XD

greyblue.4962:

…things like Canvas and HTML 5 work better in IE9…

Than in IE6? Netscape Navigator? AOL 4.0? There’s no way you’re talking about Firefox or Chrome.

1. Lob (keg skill 2) is bugged so that players can throw it as far as they want. I can’t find the thread right now, but I read somewhere on the forums and Anet representative said that this is a bug, and exploiting that bug is considered cheating. Also, it’s completely game breaking.

2. The other bug isn’t game breaking, but it is preventing new players from wanting to play. When the keg skills were changed, the tutorial keg skills in Hoelbrak were not changed, so now they don’t match up.

I loved Keg Brawl but it’s gotten to the point where only a few people play regularly, and most of them just lob the kegs straight to the goal as soon as they appear. I try not to use the lob since it was declared to be cheating, but that makes matches very unbalanced and no longer fun.

Risingashes.8694:

The person was in no way cheating.

He is using an ability available to all players.

It’s not hidden, it’s not an exploit, it’s not using a skill in a sneaky way. It’s straight forward and anyone can do it.

The counter to it is to get infront of the person and to have people in organised positions instead of just running around trying to punch the person with the keg.

You’re playing Keg Brawl like it’s a zerg fest. Keg Brawl is soccer.

Instead of accusing other people of cheating, how about you join in the practice mode and actually test how the skills work and how they’re supposed to be used.

Actually Anet has stated that that skill is bugged, and exploiting that bug is cheating.

Sweet. You should give Josh and Anet rights to use that in future SAB updates. It would make great boss fight music

Josh Foreman.8250:

Katz.5143:

I think that being special is an inherent quality to the item and has nothing to do with it being limited.

I like to pretend that I’m a purist like this. But then I think about my Dinotopia book and Virgin Black poster that are signed by the artists. The signature adds nothing significant aesthetically to the items, but I value them more as a result. I also have my original Jetfire Transformer from when I was a kid, and the fact that they aren’t made any more does seem to imbue that hunk of metal (back then they used METAL in toys!) and plastic with more value. People will pay more for an old broken down ‘67 Mustang than than a new car. I think that ’being special’ is indeed an inherent quality, but that PART of the inherent quality is its context in the world. A ’67 Mustang is inherently more valuable because it is scarce, like my Transformer and Virgin Black poster.

Or perhaps we’re looking at it the wrong way. Maybe the premise that ‘inherent value’ is a tenable concept is wrong. After all, value is a human-derived concept. ‘Things’ are just different combinations of chemicals after all. Nothing HAS value in and of itself. So if we can agree that value is composed of -and for- humans, and only perceived by them, than the full gamut of human psychology must inform that valuation. And having something that others do not is, like it or not, an unavoidable component of human psychology. It may be a part that the more self-examining among us tend to loathe, and would like to grow out of. But it’s there none-the-less. The impulse to escape it is perhaps the impulse behind asceticism? I don’t know. It’s interesting to ponder.

+1 for writing a philosophy essay as a valid response.

Thieves only, passive stealth buff that only gets removed when you attack, but you can see each others’ footprints. Preferably with additional environmental traps.

ColinJohanson.2394:

As for the late reply, I’ve been in China and missed the earlier thread, but thank you very much for linking it! Better late than never, blame it on the Great Wall, it’s terribly distracting.

So that explains why the Charr attacked Ascalon; the Great Northern Wall must have been distracting them from Meatoberfest.

Shadowlancer.7102:

@ EnemyCrusher.7324

Edit: Actually I just read your reply again, and that is no where near what I was talking about.

Oh sorry, I misinterpreted. I’m glad you got your answer though.

I hadn’t gotten any skins until last weekend, when I got three. Luck is a strange beast.

Zaxares.5419:

You should have made a Sylvari-Link, but other than that, that’s some awesome dedication.

Deku Link!

I actually sort of like that the bad AI acts like actual enemies in an 8-bit game.