Guild Wars 2

cough cough I got the black lung boss cough cough

Sounds awesome.

zerospin.8604:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Not gonna happen. Deal with it. Spies are spies.

I do hope ANet sees it differently. It would be very disappointing otherwise and encouraging to exploit this and other things, when the devs don’t even care.

Na I agree with you, I just don’t see them trying to track where, how and for what purpose is being built. Unless they want to say, “you can only place trebs here” there is no way to track it. Yeah, it’s a backwards way of trying to win but still a valid strategy.

zerospin.8604:

But I don’t care for orbs..

I want the lag fixed.
I want the spy wasting supply situation fixed.
I want more rewards for people who scout, who build siege, who run supply, who upgrade, who defend, who repair…
I want a modified scoring system that depends on the population difference, so outnumbered players get more points for holding objectives = more balance in score, and more people coming to WvW because of that
I want palisades added to camps as upgrade to make them worthwhile to upgrade.
I want new meaningful abilities like dolyak riding.

.. who cares about orbs?

2 of your things you want “fixed” can be solved by spreading population, instead of continuing to stack 4 servers, players fault not ANet’s.
More rewards for building siege/repairing will cause MORE people who waste supply aka spies.
Camp upgrades are decent already, A fully upgraded camps needs ~10-15 to take it at a decent speed.

A lot of people care about orbs, they gave the 3 borderlands a PURPOSE. That purpose will be brought back making the BLs more than “PPT fodder”. I’d rather have Orbs than “dolyak riding”..

Slyfer.6478:

I am no economics expert and maybe someone who is could clarify this for me but as i see it, if 5$ option was added, you would tap into the large pool of gamers that actually bought the game because of the one time fee. I know that Steam as well has a minimum 10$ for some reason. Are they basing this trend off some chart? Surely losing a few cents on overall transactions makes up in all the people who are solemnly willing to spend only 5$.

Not a chart, pure profit margins. Its the same idea as why all airlines overbook the flight, there is a certain % of people who will not make their flight in time, which in turn costs them the same amount of money to fly the plane, but they make less if the plane isn’t full. Tons of statistical analysis goes into this kind of stuff. They know the numbers and the percentages and are comfortable will putting an “entry” point into how much you can spend at minimum.

If a 5 dollar transaction times 400,000 per month could ultimately end up costing ANet money, rather than making money. You have to think about the power, programming, hosting space, monitoring and all of the other items that go into running an online video game. Putting in a 5 dollar option could cause more traffic, which costs them more money overall.

There is more to it than this of course and I’m no Economist.

Why don’t gamers just spend 10$ every 2 months rather than 5 every month?

srsly why is 5 dollar sign marked as kitten..

I quoted you because you said people just join and find a zerg, my post was saying that people don’t want to create small groups because it goes against the grain of the current WvW style, which is adding onto and in agreement with your post… and added a further explanation of why they don’t look for other options (because they can’t depend on 50 people, only 4). I also gave a great example of how “small man tactics” and “group composition” have been applied to larger guilds which was to further the discussion on this topic not a direct response to you.

PAXA did do something to create a 5man culture, ANet promptly blew that up.

tldr – people don’t 5man because its not easy.

Envy.1679:

LilMcGinley.3890:

I would assume ANet is charged a certain amount for each transaction through PayPal or credit card companies, most retailers are. $10 is more than likely where the upward trend of profitability starts.

Ever wonder why when you sometimes order Chinese food there is a $20 minimum?

with paypal thats about 2% plus .30 cents per transaction.

Just doing the math explains that then..

5$ transaction costs ANet 40 cents, a 10$ transaction costs ANet 50 cents. $20 is 70 cents. 50$ – $1.3. $100 – $2.3.

Only costs then 10 cents more to make double the money. That’s why there isn’t a 5 dollar (really 5 dollar sign comes out as kitten??) option.

PS: thanks for the info – didn’t know the %s

covenn.7165:

LilMcGinley.3890:

pot.6805:

Burl.9567:

pot.6805:

So how is the weather?

85 and humid out. Terrible weather this last few weeks.

It is 89 right now, supposed to get up to 93 (33c) and yes the humidity has been terrible.

My AC has been putting in massive overtimes, hope he doesn’t get burnt out.

93.. I’d KILL for 93.. Come live in Texas, we had 100 Straight Days of 100F heat last year + humidity… My AC is set at 74F and runs every 15 minutes at night and we still need extra fans.

Unless you live on the coast… Texas doesn’t know real humidity.

True, Houston is HORRIBLE.. God I hate that place, 105F/100% humidity… We get it decent here in San Antonio.. still makes for very bad days where you just wanna curl in a ball inside the freezer.

I went to college in the pan-handle where it’d hit 115F.. still hot as albeit man… I should move..

aathomas.4638:

I think you have been going about this all wrong.

The best thing you could do is to make Topics explaining why small group play is so fun and rewarding and even make guides and suggestions for those who want to get in to it but don’t know how.

From what I see people who pick up the game and enjoy pvp just go out to wvw and all they see is big wvw guilds so they join one not even aware of other options. Many people might be willing to try and create small man groups if shown how much fun they are. Also, one would need to encourage and coach/guide them even if you wipe them right away or they will just turn back to zergs.

Unfortunately, it seems most of the posts about small man groups made by small man groups seem to give off the wrong attitude that would drive most people away.

5 man goes against the grain of current WvW. You only have 4 people to counteract your so-called “badness” where, in a zerg, you have 50 people to depend on.

Why do people think RG was so good? They were the same 20-25 guys who played together for YEARS if my information about them is correct. If you know exactly what your team is doing, you can accomplish some great things and that’s the beauty of 5-10 man groups.

My best memory of this was when FoE and AGG moved from BG to ET. We held Lake with 2 AC and our melee-train from from 80 SF + 40 FC, we had around 20 AGG and 10 FoE. We play the game the same way, we built our groups almost exactly the same and we all got along really well. This just goes against the grain of WvW and playing for PPT rather than having fun and playing how others think we should but how we find it enjoyable.

PAXA – I think T6 would be were you’d find decent fights, sadly group mentality surrounds WvW like the plague.

Nightarch.2943:

Ele has three letters in it, subtract the third letter and you get two.
Two equals separate halves, separate halves equals a whole.
Thief Off Hand Sword Confirmed.

The instant I saw “Ele has three letters in it”, I was looking for the Half Life 3 Confirmed at the end. You are tricky my friend. Very, very tricky.

I would assume ANet is charged a certain amount for each transaction through PayPal or credit card companies, most retailers are. $10 is more than likely where the upward trend of profitability starts.

Ever wonder why when you sometimes order Chinese food there is a $20 minimum?

zerospin.8604:

Today, the spy is back… we are a few taking back our borderlands, supply is short with so few, and on our way to the wormgate (north bay gate) we see this…

What I’m asking for is simple.

Display player name or player number on each placed siege to identify who placed it.
If someone places a lot of suspicious siege, we report it with screenshots.
If the player is caught 3 or more times doing this, then it’s clear he’s not just new, but a spy, breaking TOS (match manipulation, going against the spirit of fair play, not contributing to the team effort with good conscience or whatever else the TOS is saying).

He would then be prohibited from placing siege until the match is over (max a week).
If he does this again next match, he won’t be able to place siege for a month.
If he repeats if after that, his account will be permanently banned from placing siege in WvW.

Sounds fair?

This is by far not the most extreme example of such behavior. I ask everyone to make screens and post it in this or similar thread to make the devs act faster

Not gonna happen. Deal with it. Spies are spies.

pot.6805:

Burl.9567:

pot.6805:

So how is the weather?

85 and humid out. Terrible weather this last few weeks.

It is 89 right now, supposed to get up to 93 (33c) and yes the humidity has been terrible.

My AC has been putting in massive overtimes, hope he doesn’t get burnt out.

93.. I’d KILL for 93.. Come live in Texas, we had 100 Straight Days of 100F heat last year + humidity… My AC is set at 74F and runs every 15 minutes at night and we still need extra fans.

Le Rooster.8715:

I see Agg are back in SoS now, would like to run with you guys on your visit and learn a couple of new tricks.

Agg + 1 FoE… I just can’t quit you Rooster…

lollasaurus.1457:

To be honest I think adding GvG to the HoTM and sPvP area of the game would be easier to add/better than the PvE version. Being locked into a tier of 3 servers and not being able to skirmish outside of that is pretty lame.

I was actually thinking bout this the other day.. why not make it an Art of War upgrade? Custom Arena. You get the ability to create a custom arena in sPvP, up to 60 people total, that’s a 30v30… guilds can invite other guilds to play, PvE/WvW armors apply.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

pullnointer.1476:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

while your math appears to be correct it is very misleading. There is not a 13%/9% increase in stats overall, your actual power and precision % increases much less due to the large intrinsic stats you get. You have 916 in each stat without armor when you are 80.

Power: ((1486-1419)/1419)x100) = 4.7%
Precision: ((1292-1261)/1261)x100) = 2.5%
Critical Damage: ((44-35)/44)x100) = 20.46%

So the overall change is minimal.

it isn’t. what, you expect your sword to hit for 0 with no power gear? this is there for balance reasons and has nothing to do with this discussion.

huh? you are trying to tell me that accounting for all the numbers is not important for doing math?!?!

Ascended gear increases your overall power by 4.7%
Ascended gear increases your overall precision by 2.5%

Accounting for all the numbers is extremely important and has everything to do with the discussion.

Finally… you HAVE to account for the base stats when talking about an OVERALL increase in stats. That’s why people have been trying to tear me down on my 3-5% overall increase. They are only considering the GEAR increase and refuse to take into account the base 916.

If you want to compare the gear to gear (as many people here have) you will have misleading numbers but that will not give you an clear picture of how more effective you are as a player.

I did Power/Tough/Vit armor because I’m bored…

W/ Armor Ascended Exotic Difference
Power 1801 1709 92 5.38%
Vitality 1516 1480 36 2.43%
Toughness 1516 1480 36 2.43%

W/O Armor Ascended Exotic Difference
Power 885 793 92 11.60%
Vitality 600 564 36 6.38%
Toughness 600 564 36 6.38%

You can’t upgrade 1 piece by 100% and expect an overall 100% increase in effectiveness. There is a difference between a percent change in gear and a percent change in your character’s overall stats.

Bullk.5836:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Harsh? Asc trinkets are a 3-5% overall boost to your stats. Unless you are hell-bent on always having the best items, you don’t have to get these.

Exotics will still be viable as they always were.

Crafting needed something like this to be worth-while again. No one crafts for any reason other than to level now, it’s pointless otherwise. Now you can make money and help guildies by being a 500 crafter.

You are spreading miss information like crazy ascended gear is not a 3/5% diference when u add up all it goes way beyond 15% diference (specialy with %crit dmg) now start adding up armor and weapons and you get a much bigger diference

I did.. on the last page.. see sig. I closed my excel doc but I’ll be more than happy to toss it together again and show ya.

Berserker gear is an outlier because of crit. I’ll use PVT for my next calcs, maybe even some Rabid

Dumah.9612:

Ya, the amazing power of 2nd grade math.

Considering 2nd grade was 20 years ago.. which was 1993..

Funny how I thank you and yet to come back with an insult.. lol

AHHH this is why I’m in IT and not in math.. thanks for pointing that out!!

Too bad I closed my excel doc I had open. I’d like to relook at the numbers I had to compare to yours.

Thank you for the informative post.

So what is the percent change when you incorporate the base stats to the Asc items?

Renxian.6982:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Jalad Lantana.3027:

I don’t see what the attraction is for some arbitrary group vs group combat scenarios.

It sounds like a weird no mans land somewhere between WvW and team spvp.

It does not interest me, but I thought there were places already established where players can congregate for duels and fixed group vs group play on and ad hoc basis.

Other games base their large scale PVP on different size ‘sides’, but Arenanet decided to go with world versus world, so that is what we have.

The interest & attraction is from people who want to get better at the game for themselves and for their guild, rather than win via scoring points or having off-hour coverage. Believe it or not, people like to actually kill people in PvP, not siege a keep for 5 hours.

It’s a straight-up test of skill. No siege to use, no walls to hid behind, it’s your best 15 vs my best 15. Winner take all.

So in otherwords, an kitten measuring contest.

If you mean a test of pure skill yes. You GvG to LEARN from the group you are up against.. not to just destroy them.

Jalad Lantana.3027:

I don’t see what the attraction is for some arbitrary group vs group combat scenarios.

It sounds like a weird no mans land somewhere between WvW and team spvp.

It does not interest me, but I thought there were places already established where players can congregate for duels and fixed group vs group play on and ad hoc basis.

Other games base their large scale PVP on different size ‘sides’, but Arenanet decided to go with world versus world, so that is what we have.

The interest & attraction is from people who want to get better at the game for themselves and for their guild, rather than win via scoring points or having off-hour coverage. Believe it or not, people like to actually kill people in PvP, not siege a keep for 5 hours.

It’s a straight-up test of skill. No siege to use, no walls to hid behind, it’s your best 15 vs my best 15. Winner take all.

Check out gw2gvg.com if you are interested in GvGs. You can set them up whenever/wherever you agree to.

Snowreap.5174:

last night I trebbed SE tower from the hills for half an hour. I knocked down 2 walls (3 if you count knocking down a repaired wall again). my teammates went in, took the tower, and I got no credit.

-ken

You get 40 WXP per wall, you got credit just not for the cap.

Chris.3290:

New maps will shake things up the most.

I just don’t want to see the orbs cause server-wide buffs because it’s ridiculous to have a server that is already dominating, get even more powerful.

It’s like basting the people in BBQ sauce before throwing them into the colloseum LOL.

I’d like to believe that they will be map specific and easily “flippable” like sentries or the nodes in sPvP.

I hope they offer small bonuses like WXP/maybe +50 to all stats for 1 map. A tug-of-war over the Orb Bonuses would be soooo awesome to mess around with… I’m getting to excited over my own idea.

After the fiasco with Orbs, I don’t think ANet would screw this up again.

LFG FLIP TOWERS

At least make the rewards scale with player or how upgraded the structure is.. flipping paper towers shouldn’t have the same reward as flipping T3 hills.

Asbrandr.6324:

Dumah.9612:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Harsh? Asc trinkets are a 3-5% overall boost to your stats. Unless you are hell-bent on always having the best items, you don’t have to get these.

Exotics will still be viable as they always were.

Crafting needed something like this to be worth-while again. No one crafts for any reason other than to level now, it’s pointless otherwise. Now you can make money and help guildies by being a 500 crafter.

Non-Ascended Berserker Stats vs Ascended Bersker Stats (Trinkets):
Power: 461 vs 541 (17.4% increase)
Precision: 315 vs 341 (8.3% increase)
Crit Damage: 32 vs 39 (22% increase)

So, the increase in OVERALL stats of ascended vs non-ascended trinkets is far greater than 3-5% overall. As with the armor, I’m sure we’ll something similar, just as we do in rares vs exotics. Anyone who has a full set of ascended equipment will have a significant stat increase to someone with full elites. As with ascended trinkets, it sounds like we won’t be able to get 6 pieces of armor day one. I can understand why someone would be jealous of not having such a nice stat boost. I’m looking forward to getting a full set.

Is that figure for the exotics counting the slotted gem? It’s important to consider because Ascended items merge the gem into the stats. So to compare an Ascended berserker’s trinket to an exotic one it’s the [exotic trinket + matching gem] vs. Ascended Trinket.

Can’t be.. here are the stats
Exotic Asc
Power/prec power/pres
508 346 570 376

Difference of: 10.8% 7.9%

I don’t know the crit changes tho.

Exotic crit is 36%.. so if 36 vs 39 is a 7.7% increase. Not 22%

Dumah.9612:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Harsh? Asc trinkets are a 3-5% overall boost to your stats. Unless you are hell-bent on always having the best items, you don’t have to get these.

Exotics will still be viable as they always were.

Crafting needed something like this to be worth-while again. No one crafts for any reason other than to level now, it’s pointless otherwise. Now you can make money and help guildies by being a 500 crafter.

Non-Ascended Berserker Stats vs Ascended Bersker Stats:
Power: 461 vs 541 (17.4% increase)
Precision: 315 vs 341 (8.3% increase)
Crit Damage: 32 vs 39 (22% increase)

So, the increase in OVERALL stats of ascended vs non-ascended trinkets is far greater than 3-5% overall. As with the armor, I’m sure we’ll something similar, just as we do in rares vs exotics. Anyone who has a full set of ascended equipment will have a significant stat increase to someone with full elites. As with ascended trinkets, it sounds like we won’t be able to get 6 pieces of armor day one. I can understand why someone would be jealous of not having such a nice stat boost. I’m looking forward to getting a full set.

You are forgetting the 916 base stats every stat category gets.

Nay of the Ether.8913:

I’m still amazed that people freak out and rage over a tiny increase in tier, and you do not need full ascended gear to do fractals, if you do you might wanna reconsider doing fractals at all. The pitiful gains from running a full asended set is laughable. the only reason people want them at all is for infusions.

I did some random, pure speculative math, holding a 10% increase on Power/Precision for Berserker Armor including CURRENT Ascended Trinkets and the overall increase for Power was 5.49% and Precision was 3.88%, which isn’t even the case for current Exotic -> Asc. It’s closer to 11% main stat, 8% secondary stat.

Current Exotic:
H 45 32
S 34 24
C 101 72
G 34 24
L 67 48
B 34 24
Greatsword: 179 128

Speculated Asc:
H 50 35
S 37 26
C 111 79
G 37 26
L 74 53
B 37 26
Greatsword: 197 141

Overall your numbers, including base 916, would look like this:
Exotic:
Power 1918
Precision 1614

Ascended:
Power 2030
Precision 1680

The big difference will come from the Critical Damage. I added a ~1% increase for all armor pieces (2% for chest), so 26 total + 10% from weapon. This is where the Effective Power shoots up from 2710.79 to 2959.87.

Feel free to double check the math, and like I said, it’s pure speculation but the overall stats changes aren’t high enough to worry about unless you REALLY want to min/max.

Any other stat sets people would want looked at? and is 5% primary and 3% secondary really that crazy? Heck, you can TRAIT for that..

Chris.3290:

I read the 2013 status update on where the game is going. They have great things for PvE, just the entire kitchen sink thrown at it with 4 full-time teams working on new content.

For WvW, they are bringing back the orbs (or something similar) that will “change the dynamics”.
The orbs were a failure because they let the dominating team dominate even more insanely; is this going to be any different?

What I’m wondering, because my point of view is becoming incredibly more jaded, is this going to be yet further incentive for people to bandwagon to winning servers; or is this going to be a system that “anybody” can make a play for in spite of numbers?

The orb mechanic will be something that even a small group can take over and hold, or several small groups. You won’t be able to put it in a keep and camp it all day with ACs like you used to.

Bringing back “orbs” will be big, depending on the boosts. Roaming groups will pay an even more important role if 3 can cap points and boom orb buff for their big zerg right before hitting a tower/keep.

Orbs + new maps.. I’ll be very happy.

Ascended gear won’t be an answer for pure numbers.

PvE/World population =/= WvW population.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Server-Match-up-is-TERRIBLE/first

ZBeeblebrox.4928:

My real question about Ascended Armor (and weapons) is how they will deal with Runes and Sigils. With jewelry it didn’t really matter to just get rid of the upgrade slot and combine it in with the normal stats, but you can’t do that with weapons/armor. There are unique bonuses on Sigils and Runes that they can’t just combine into the base stats of an item. Will they have both an Upgrade slot and an Infusion slot, I wonder? I hope they address this properly. Honestly I would not trade up to an Ascended weapon for extra stats if it meant giving up the various Superior Sigils I use.

I never even though of that… That is a very good point.

I’d still kill for some Valk trinkets

Nikkle.4013:

ronpierce.2760:

Nikkle.4013:

Lags just a players fault for running at high settings on a comp that can’t handle it, but the devs have already noted how horrible team fights look. They said they will be toning down some effects but then they say there adding more. I hope they have a setting that allows you to disable effects on the enemies.

On the enemies? Seems like you’d care less about the colorful stuff you’re doing (since most of the time it still provides rings for your aoes) and would rather at least see what the enemy is doing so you can react :S

…. As in, I don’t want an enemy swinging his legendary covering my screen with particle effects so I can’t see what skills he’s actually using…….

kirito.4138:

Not entirely user or player fault. If the best consumer machine out there can’t handle WvW at steady 60fps, I would think its also something to do with the devs.

Talking about spvp here, not wvw.

It still relates, if a computer can handle 20v20 in WvW, why can’t it handle 5v4 in sPvP…

ZBeeblebrox.4928:

Yeah, people were telling me earlier that I should dump my precursor now (working towards Meteorlogicus, have everything but 1/2 the T6 mats and Charged Lodes basically) because they’re going to drop in price like rocks. I just laughed and said I wasn’t selling. Do people really think the crafting recipes for precursors are going to be cheap? It’s not gonna be “Ancient Wood Scepter Casing” plus “5 globs of ectoplasm”… it’ll be something outrageous. They already said in the blog post that new crafting would requires lots of account bound materials that could only be acquired once per 24 hrs (or something along those lines). I don’t think crafting a precursor will be too terribly easy or cheap. Somehow, I think the current precursors on the market will be just fine…

If the sum of price of the materials needed is higher than the current price of PCs, I wonder if they would adjust to match that, if they are TP-able in the first place.

HiddenNick.7206:

jfeez.8209:

Finally!! meaningful horizontal progression, i really hope this is implemented in a similar way to capturing elites, i.e going to hunt certain mobs or go to certain places to learn the skills. Either way the one thing that has always bugged me was how little choice we had on skills, while a lot for them wouldn’t have been used if there was more the illusion of choice is fantastic.

Sorry but… I use only one of my elites and only a fraction of utility skills. So really don’t care much about skills.

I hope this changes that. Most if not all classes are pigeonholed into builds based on utilities, more utilities will hopefully change that.

Replacing elite with a reg utility would be awesome too.

darkace.8925:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Harsh? Asc trinkets are a 3-5% overall boost to your stats. Unless you are hell-bent on always having the best items, you don’t have to get these.

3-5% for the trinket, now what’s the difference when you throw weapons and armor into the equation?

LilMcGinley.3890:

Exotics will still be viable as they always were.

In WvW someone in full exotics will be at a distinct disadvantage against someone in full ascended, skill being comparable.

LilMcGinley.3890:

Crafting needed something like this to be worth-while again. No one crafts for any reason other than to level now, it’s pointless otherwise. Now you can make money and help guildies by being a 500 crafter.

I don’t understand why crafting, or any aspect of the game, needs to be time-gated. It seems to me to be a lazy solution at best, and an insulting method of getting players to log in on a daily basis at worst.

We don’t know the stats of it – so your guess is as good as mine.

A level 2 in WvW can be better than a fully geared level 80 – stats wise.

I agree. Time gated is not fun, like the Ascended items I wanted them when they released but couldn’t. I just finished my Asc trinkets ~2 weeks ago, not gonna try for backpack though. Crafting was so pointless though and it really needed a change.

EDIT: Just some fishing around… base 916 stats right. Full Exotic armor ends up with.

Power 1231
Precision 1140

which is a difference of purely from armor.

Power 315
Prec 224

going off this 10% everyone loves, that is an increase of 31 power and 22 precision. 22 Pres is what 1% crit?

Asc armor would give a total of 346 power and 246 precision, where exotic gave you 315 power and 224 precision.

Don’t you still have the chance to get non-level 80 drops in lower zones, as in you might get a rare from a champ but not 100% chance it’ll be level-80?

Ulalume.9584:

I had 5 secs lag after updating Adobe Flash Player two days ago. Rolling back to a previous version fixed the problem for me.

I remember reading somewhere else that the update caused issues with GW2, but I can’t find the post.

Hmm I just updated mine 2 nights ago.. I may have to send you some gold if that works… Thank you

Funset.7893:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Funset.7893:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Harsh? Asc trinkets are a 3-5% overall boost to your stats.

Would you stop the speculations? It is a little over 10%. For the trinkets at least. Which is already a lot.

I did the math on the other topic.. each trinket, yes, is a 10% boost but overall it is a 3-5% change in your stats.. please go read that again.

Posting here because you prolly won’t go read it…

So. I did a warrior with berserker greatsword, berserker armor (no runes) and 2 builds with only trinkets: 1 exotic, 1 Asc.

Asc
Power 1980
Precision 1944

Exotic
Power 1916
Precision 1612

Power diff – 3.2%
Prec Diff – 1.9%

gw2buildcraft.com to see for yourself

oops 1 sec.. i messed up

Except you are comparing a MIXED set of ascended trinket + exotic gear to a FULL set of exotic gear. I am comparing a full set of ascended to a full set of exotics. Or a single piece to a single piece.

The debate was the current boost of Asc trinkets over Exotic trinkets as currently in game. My post shows that. You can’t change what we are comparing after being shown the facts.

But yes, we don’t know what the increase will be. I was just showing that even now the increase from Exotic → Ascended isn’t the 10% overall increase everyone thinks it is.

Yes, we will have to wait and see when they are released what the new increase is. Going off the current “10%” from exotic to asc:

berserker g-sword
+179 power
+128 precision
+9% critical damage

will be:
+197
+140
+10%

Funset.7893:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Harsh? Asc trinkets are a 3-5% overall boost to your stats.

Would you stop the speculations? It is a little over 10%. For the trinkets at least. Which is already a lot.

I did the math on the other topic.. each trinket, yes, is a 10% boost but overall it is a 3-5% change in your stats.. please go read that again.

Posting here because you prolly won’t go read it…

So. I did a warrior with berserker greatsword, berserker armor (no runes) and 2 builds with only trinkets: 1 exotic, 1 Asc.

Asc
Power 1980
Precision 1644

Exotic
Power 1918
Precision 1614

Power diff – 3.2%
Prec Diff – 1.9%

gw2buildcraft.com to see for yourself – fixed – ok now its fixed

“At 500, crafters will be able to craft ascended weapons and armor. Once you reach 500, a new tier of crafting materials will be available to you; this new tier of materials will be made by combining lower tier materials. This tier is time-constrained, so each item can only be made once per day in order to help give high-level crafters their own economy of items to build and sell that retain their value and rarity.”

The mats are account-bound but the mats you make from them won’t be… yeah, it’s a little confusing.

Harsh? Asc trinkets are a 3-5% overall boost to your stats. Unless you are hell-bent on always having the best items, you don’t have to get these.

Exotics will still be viable as they always were.

Crafting needed something like this to be worth-while again. No one crafts for any reason other than to level now, it’s pointless otherwise. Now you can make money and help guildies by being a 500 crafter.

naphack.9346:

This might work:
Badge+Karma -> Rare item x4 -> Mystic Forge -> precursor -> $$$

cba trying tho.

Can you toilet those rares? I didn’t think you could.

King Amadaeus.8619:

Avatar of Belle.9623:

King Amadaeus.8619:

tom.7468:

King Amadaeus.8619:

I do not think they should. Because what you get on free transfers is people with nothing invested. So if they show up, don’t mesh well with the community, then they just hop to another server….Or worse drama builds, and everyone suffers.

Before transfer cost i never saw this ever and the server i had the most fun on was actually vabbi one of the lowest ranked ones. I have been to several servers. The community on every server I’ve been to was great except for vizunah square which i was only on 3 days because i didn’t understand anything.
You don’t have to mesh well with the community to follow a commander and kill enemy players.

Can’t speak to the Euro side of things, but I know on NA, T8 had a few “high-tier” guilds move down to them, and they all lasted on average about a month, maybe 2…This was in large part (from what I have been told) due to the fact that they wanted to run “alone” with only their guild(s), and in the end did not mesh well with the overall community.

There will always of course be exceptions, but just because what you perceive to be the idea of the game is to " follow a commander and kill enemy players", does not mean that these people will think the same.

I disagree with why the high tiers left. It’s not because of how they got along with the community. It’s because T8 was a much different kind of WvW and they didn’t find it as challenging or fun. At least that was my personal experience.

I was just operating on what I was told, I was not there (had long since been on SF by then), and until this past week SF has yet to receive any of these higher tier guild groups. I do remember that VK said up front they weren’t staying.

As the current leader of a guild that went from T1 to T8 and the same guild Belle is in… We left because we could rarely fight when WE wanted to, it was always dictated by the larger zerg. Killing a group of 30-40 with 15-20 only lasted two times and then they brought 80. It wasn’t fun for us to have to dodge ‘map zergs’ of 80 people to find decent fights. It was fun for a while but the downhill came fast and people started to leave the game because it wasn’t enjoyable to them anymore.

We left ET with 10 people still playing, came in with 30. Currently we have 6 still enjoying GW2.

silvermember.8941:

SSalp.6423:

Time gated gear? really? kitten you Anet!
Bout time wild star comes out…

And be stuck with a real gear treadmil?

Your signature says so much in so few words.. I love it that I had to comment.

hmsgoddess.3869:

Sharpoon.8197:

Why do we have to stick to NA? If the euro servers had non euro coverage (NA, Oceanic players) I would transfer there in a heart beat. That’s where the real wvw is happening.

ok then include euro if you want. But why do you say that’s where the action is?

EU guilds and servers are looking more for open field fights rather than play for PPT, which is what the NA side typically does.

They play WvW for all the right reasons – have fun and not worry about winning, only getting better as a player.

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LilMcGinley.3890:

Imagine SBI/CD/EB with the added numbers of servers like ET/FC/SF. The bottom servers actually have people to play with and the higher servers get added coverage…

Added coverage…..you must be joking. T8 didn’t have coverage the last time I was there. If you wanted to play with a 5-10 man group in the middle of the night you could pvdoor entire borderlands with almost no opposition. You’d get more players during NA prime.

I’m interested to see how they will open up China and if China will get its own servers. If they are added to the current servers will they go to NA or EU?

SF/FC have some decent NA coverage, ET is the outlier here of course. Extra people is extra people and with any server merger, you’d get the people who say “oh there aren’t enough people to fight with here” now going “hey I have people to fight with now” coming back to WvW that they left for PvE pastures.

Avatar of Belle.9623:

When Anet opened up free transfers to T8 it didn’t work out as well as I had hoped. Honestly guilds came down and took people away later. (Including yours truly.) I don’t feel like T8 retained very many people.

I agree with Savannah that people need to really want to come to lower tiers and invest some gems to make it worthwhile. You need to sell lower tiers as honestly as possible. WvW can feel like a ghost town. I remember a time when Katz and I were the only two people on home BL. You can take 5 people and ninja hills.

You fell into my trap..

Sadly, I don’t think there is really anything ANet can do to bring people “back down” to T6-8 servers. The population imbalances are far too great for them to provide transfers to/from because population isn’t solely WvW based and leaving the populations up to the players has resulted in insane “stacking wars” in T1-1.5 (TC). Not to mention that people feel like they are “winning” WvW by being in “T1”, which technically doesn’t exist but we are stuck in this mindset.

Server merger or reduce number of WvW servers is the way I think they can start to redistribute the population. Imagine SBI/CD/EB with the added numbers of servers like ET/FC/SF. The bottom servers actually have people to play with and the higher servers get added coverage…

“havoc/roaming” in T1 is 15 min, 20 preferred..

organized 5v5s would be nice, new GvG category to break into.

To the person who said spvp is more broken than wvw… 100 points to you.

I think I love you…

Great ideas. More events in WvW is needed.

I’d also like one “Kill 100 enemies while outside of a tower/keep – min 3000 range” – to bring people out of Tower/Keeps and start some more open field battles.

Mif.3471:

LilMcGinley.3890:

And wasting supply has no direct relation to winning or losing a match.

If it didn’t then why would people bother?

To grief of course. People do things in game without winning/losing being the ultimate goal, shocking I know..