I have no problem with them including hardcore content, but I do have a few requirements:
The self-entitlement!
You don’t get to say what’s in the game and what isn’t. You only get to decide whether you play it or not.
This is the same for both sides of the debate here so what is your point?
Difference is that the self-proclaimed hardcore players are not asking the devs to dumb the game down to the point that you’re rewarded for breathing and drooling.
I’ve always thought that rewards should be based on the effort put to obtain them, not on how much you claim that you deserve them.
Congrats on the kill again. TTS is still battling bugs. At least we have a Dev that runs with us, so we don’t have to report anything.
Ohh. so you are blaming it on bugs now. LoL Deso has done it twice now without any blaming failures on bugs. I thought you guys were the ’elite" of all “hardcore” ’elite" players. No excuses then. LoL
Twice in one entire week.
Also, don’t put words in anyone’s mouth. No one in TTS has claimed that we’re the elite, hardcore or better than other players.
I have a guildie that’s run over 600 fractals and hasn’t seen a single fractal weapon drop, that’s just ridiculous. The person in question is so over fractals because of this that they refuse to play fractals anymore.
I’m calling bullkitten here.
I’ve run Fractals for a while now, and so far I’ve gotten:
Fractal GS (Pre-Fractured).
Fractal Sword.
Fractal Shortbow.
Fractal Longbow.
Fractal Dagger (Pre-Fractured).
Fractal Warhorn.
Fractal Rifle.
Fractal Hammer.
Fractal Pistolx4
Chorben’s Weapon Chestx2
Soros’ Weapon Chest.
Stonecleaver’s Weapon Chest.
Zintl Armor Chest.
If anything, I believe that the droprate was increased by quite a bit.
Your suggestion has only one flaw. Casuals will whine in forums “Why do we have to get bad rewards than that small portion of community? We are the majority, give us everything and give them immediately!”
And the hardcore will whine, “It’s not hard enough! the normals can do it… and we need gear progression to make it more obvious how good we are”. The Casual / Hardcore debate has been going on for decades.
The original GW2 design was not for a hardcore game, it’s being perverted into one. The best solution I’ve seen was normal mode and hardcore mode in Wrath. Have wurm and marionette being reasonably easy in open world and drop tokens for a hardcore attempt on a much upgraded instanced version that gives some ego-title or skin.
I have yet to see a post complaining about something being too easy.
Your suggestion has only one flaw. Casuals will whine in forums “Why do we have to get bad rewards than that small portion of community? We are the majority, give us everything and give them immediately!”
The only whining I see being done currently is by self proclaimed hardcore players.
By checking the first two pages in this forum section, most of the complains are because the content is “too hard”.
Says you. I say you’re wrong. I say that GW2 should have content that appeals to players of all types, not just casuals and not just hardcore raiders.
So where does that leave us? Thankfully, the devs agree with me, not you, and the game is in a better place because of it.
I think that just ends up pleasing no one, because the raiders feel that there’s not enough content to justify their attention, and the non-raiders feel that the raiders are getting the best loot (which they are). Again, if they completely remove the chests from the Wurms and Teq, then they can leave the events in, but those types of enemies should not have superior loot.
Speak for yourself. Every piece of challenging content they’ve released has been a pleasant experience to me and others. It’s the [bad type of] casuals that cry about something they cannot get because they’re not willing to put any effort into it. Well, that’s how the world works, if you don’t work towards something, you won’t get it and will have to deal with it.
I am thankful that the devs release content for both casual and hardcore players and so should you. If not, well that’s too bad.
So will you also start calling out people who complain that there isn’t enough hard content. The crying for that has been going on for a while. You can’t put down one group and not the other as there is a name for that, hypocrisy.
But none of both groups is being let down! It’s not like all casual content suddenly vanishes into oblivion whenever something challenging appears. In fact, casual players should be happy that the so-called Elitists will not be around their usual activities as they’ll be busy trying to beat new hard content.
Says you. I say you’re wrong. I say that GW2 should have content that appeals to players of all types, not just casuals and not just hardcore raiders.
So where does that leave us? Thankfully, the devs agree with me, not you, and the game is in a better place because of it.
I think that just ends up pleasing no one, because the raiders feel that there’s not enough content to justify their attention, and the non-raiders feel that the raiders are getting the best loot (which they are). Again, if they completely remove the chests from the Wurms and Teq, then they can leave the events in, but those types of enemies should not have superior loot.
Speak for yourself. Every piece of challenging content they’ve released has been a pleasant experience to me and others. It’s the [bad type of] casuals that cry about something they cannot get because they’re not willing to put any effort into it. Well, that’s how the world works, if you don’t work towards something, you won’t get it and will have to deal with it.
I am thankful that the devs release content for both casual and hardcore players and so should you. If not, well that’s too bad.
The idea that the pale tree is the result of a seed intended for dragon minions makes sense, and I agree that it is probably Mordremoth. The Nightmare Court / Mother dichotomy is a nature / nurture thing. The Mother sees her role as fighting the dark influence by controlling the pale tree’s children, whereas the Nightmare court are either wittingly or not preparing to serve a new master, the dragon.
Scarlet’s plan is to somehow remove the dragon’s influence, possibly by killing it. I also have a feeling that the Mother is intended to be a Champion, and is linked to the dragon, and that what Scarlet intends to do to the dragon won’t be good for the Mother. If successful the Sylvari would lose both the malignant influence of the dragon and the gentle guidance of the mother. Scarlet intends to fill that void.
Freeing a Dragon Champion from it’s link to an Elder Dragon requires considerable magic, and a rare ritual that only the Forgotten know of. Which is something that never happened to the Pale Tree or its seed, as far as we know.
Plus Sylvari can’t be corrupted, while we know that dragon minions CAN be corrupted by other dragons. So they aren’t dragon minions. It’s as simple as that.
Sylvari can’t be corrupted, and why’s that? Of interesting note, can one ED corrupt another ED minions and turn them into their own minions?
It seems that the biggest servers and guilds have gotten the strategy for wurm down pretty well, but the DPS is slightly lacking… like 5-10% lacking…
Has anyone considered making an ascended only zerker/soldier guild? if you can get 100 players who have 10+ pieces of ascended I think the dps problem would be solved. The problem with TTS and BG is that they let anyone participate, thus severely hampering their own DPS.
I personally don’t have the time or fortitude to organize such a guild, but I would be happy to join one if someone else does. The easiest way to do it would be to have people ping their gear and then kill a lvl 80 vet within a certain time constraint. If they meet both criteria then they are in.
First off, it’s not as easy as it sounds. Between the timezones and frictions, that kind of guild would probably crumble.
Secondly, it’s not that we lack DPS so sorely, it’s more about scaling issues.
Thirdly, Soldier/Zerker only would fail the event badly.
Hey so I have been playing and I’ll have full health and I would be walking around and then I randomly die without any agro mobs on me. I dont know if this is a new glitch or not but its sucks
If you consider that ascended weps the armour also came out you will see that the casual player is being forgotten.
A casual player doesn’t need Ascended Armour/Weapons at all, as casuals don’t run higher level Fractals.
Casual players do however play wvw where the top armour is almost a pre-requisite.
Also I decide what I want or need thanks very much.
Please stop trying to use Ascended armour as an excuse to accuse ANET of ignoring the casual playerbase. It’s pathetic.
The damage difference between Exotic and Ascended is so negligible that it only significantly affects PvP at higher skill levels. Do casual players play these? No.
Exotic is more than enough to stand your ground, perhaps even Rare.
You are in your right to decide what you want, but what you need is a different matter.
I was merely pointing out to the person that said “one boss doesn’t equal all” that all recent content release has been for the more hardcore players. For players still struggling to complete their full ascended set like myself who requires 300 of 1 material per day just for the time gated mats without even thinking of the others required to craft the components means either farming or buying which can be as much as 10g per day hence my struggle to to think wasting time on standing waiting for these new events for little to no reward is fun.
I primarily play wvw but we get locked out of improving out characters without being forced to play in pve in these time sinks .Dont even start me on our wvw server being destroyed by pve transfers.
I have almost 5k hrs play time on this game so no , Im not that casual either but I am halfway to my full set of celestial only to hear they will now be changing it & the concensus is that it will be rendered useless so please forgive me if im a little more than annoyed with the game as it stands today.
I don’t even feel like completing my set any more , in fact instead of playing I am here.
In 18~ months and about 20 LS releases, we’ve had some content that’s arguably hardcore, which is:
Fractals of the Mists (higher levels)
Queen’s Gauntlet
Ascended Weapons
Tequatl
TA: Aetherblade Path
Ascended Armor
Wurms
Something else that I probably forgot to add.
That’s, give or take, seven things in one year and a half.
And, if you don’t consider Legendary Weapons to be hardcore content, I wouldn’t call Ascended Weapons hardcore either (I personally would not include the Aetherblade Path on the list, but I’m sure someone will point it out if I don’t).
If you consider that ascended weps the armour also came out you will see that the casual player is being forgotten.
A casual player doesn’t need Ascended Armour/Weapons at all, as casuals don’t run higher level Fractals.
Casual players do however play wvw where the top armour is almost a pre-requisite.
Also I decide what I want or need thanks very much.
Please stop trying to use Ascended armour as an excuse to accuse ANET of ignoring the casual playerbase. It’s pathetic.
The damage difference between Exotic and Ascended is so negligible that it only significantly affects PvP at higher skill levels. Do casual players play these? No.
Exotic is more than enough to stand your ground, perhaps even Rare.
You are in your right to decide what you want, but what you need is a different matter.
So, back to the task at hand. I’m tired of trolls wishing to argue.
I’m sincerely asking you to explain in detail how ANET is ignoring 90% of their playerbase. No hostility here, no mockery, no nothing. It’s just that I haven’t read or seen anything that makes me think that they’re not listening at all.
Please do explain, and please don’t call me or others asking for the same thing trolls just because your previous statements were unclear, be it because they were improperly explained or because we misinterpreted them somehow. So, please explain your stand.
This whole encounter is a perfect example why TTS and guilds like them are detrimental to the game as a whole.
When a “special” guild has to be created to defeat a boss, that is a sign there is something wrong with that boss encounter. When that same “special” guild then defeats the boss, it “proves” to the dev team that the encounter is working as intended as it can be beaten.
The marionette was done well, the wurm and teq are just ridiculous.
Thanks, OP.
I wouldn’t have been able to sleep without knowing where you’re going to spend your leisure time. Now that you’ve cleared it up, I can finally rest.
To be honest I’m pretty sure you guys are about 0.1% HP short and his burn phase ended (like you have to do another platform charge to be able to dmg him again but of course no time)
In the event bar blank isn’t necessarily zero if you do teq often enough he stays just like that at no HP for a few seconds before dying while players take away his last bit of HP
When the burn phase ends, you don’t get “Invulnerable” messages, instead every single shred of damage you do appears as “0”.
That’s what I saw in the video. 0s ?
Watch closely and you’ll see “Invulnerable” a couple of times before the zeroes.
To be honest I’m pretty sure you guys are about 0.1% HP short and his burn phase ended (like you have to do another platform charge to be able to dmg him again but of course no time)
In the event bar blank isn’t necessarily zero if you do teq often enough he stays just like that at no HP for a few seconds before dying while players take away his last bit of HP
When the burn phase ends, you don’t get “Invulnerable” messages, instead every single shred of damage you do appears as “0”.
Thanks but no thanks. I won’t even try to target the Wurm so long as auto-targeting is broken.
I don’t use gimmicks in fights, either, even if the fight requires it. I only use my own abilities. I will never grab a barrel, harpoon gun, siege golem or anything else on a world boss fight. If my daggers and arrows do 0 damage to the boss, then tough luck. ArenaNet needs to redesign the encounters.
I was just going to open the same topic….
I have so much fun, waiting in overflow while all my friends and guildmates play the game… I mean this was exactly why I got this game, so i can stay all day in overflow and do nothing…. THANKS A-NET I LOVE IT…
p.s. lets not forget the superb lag everybody gets when there are more then 10 ppl on screen (and my PC is a kitteni’n’ mosnter, I can\t even imagine what will be on a avarage PC…)
If your monster PC can’t handle more than 10 players, along with their respective particles on your screen, then I have some bad news for you.
Well, the Giant Wurms are immune to crits and the “prepwork” for the three wurms that you need to do before you can damage them require little to no DPS at all. Which doesn’t really promote berserker. But the marionette definitely does.
balls to the wall DPS still helps in clearing out the mass of adds.
If ANet wants us to stop zerker zerging they need to give a way to predictably lure adds out of the way of the main boss mechanics, so that others can get that stuff done.
Right now the boss fights are explosions in paint factories, with little to no way for us players to take any proper control.
Husks in the Wurm event are nearly impervious to direct damage. Conditions are promoted here.
I liked this update, managed to beat the Marionette boss and getting closer to beat the Wurms.
Better hurry then. Don’t waste time here on the forums. The Wurms will be abandoned by the majority of the playerbase in a matter of days.
Not much to do while neither of those two events is happening. Besides, the less random people doing the event, the better.
Amber wurm could use some retuning, though.
Anyway, enjoy your thread (and the next, and the next, and the next).
I wouldn’t doubt if the update was just the two bosses that drops greens and blues.
I’m calling out this for what it is. You can be angry, but when it happens just don’t direct that anger on me.
No one cares about you, though.
I doubt that anyone will remember your ID, whether the update results being good or bad.
He is not being represented. It is just the events are falling into place to demonstrate the person who would end up like him.
2 humans this time instead of 2 asura. Last time the master (snaff) died and the assistant lived. Now it is reversed. 2 humans and the assistant will die.
You’re saying it as if it weren’t mere baseless speculation.
Its reasonable TO SCALE to 10 people and all i have to do is ask in guild chat for back up. Back in the day, 2 of us completed Golem because of good scaling and no gimmick methods to take it down.
Lets review: Tequatl is a dragon lieutenant that requires an entire zone of coordinated playersto beat…
Elder dragon Zhaitan was taken down with 5 cannons of canthan grade fireworks by 5 players if he is not flying around. Yea yea random lasers hit it too.
You’re sorely mixing up game mechanics and lore.
Lorewise, the cannon used to cut Zhaitan’s tail was powerful enough to turn Tequatl into a smoking pile of mince and also expensive/hard enough to recreate to make mass production impossible.
Also, you’re forgetting that there were a bunch of cannons on the ship used to kill Zhaitan, and the fact that five players were firing them up was just to give us something to do. Lorewise he probably got riddled by every cannon on that side of the ship.
/kidding
