Guild Wars 2

Trevor Boyer.6524:

The idea was intended to help eliminate unfair judgment based on Elitism, Favoritism and Trolling.

I would only be against favoritism and plain griefing, but I wouldn’t call elitism unfair. If someone puts an advertisement looking for experienced players with zerk/scholar gear and meta builds, then no one who doesn’t fill the requirements should join.

robertul.3679:

“Hey guys someone’s at the door brb 10s”
wtf?!

That’s not so bad. Real life calls occasionally.

There are some people who go have lunch of make coffee.

Wethospu.6437:

I appreciate your story but this seems more like a rant than a real question to me.

Lots of people can’t read so it doesn’t matter what you put in your lfg.

^This.

Basically, they didn’t read, and if they did and joined anyway, they’re just leechers.

Back then I would not ask for a gear check or kick people, but due to illiterate players and leechers I’ve realised that I can’t hope for a group of my liking if I don’t enforce a few rules. At least not through the LFG system.

Sad reality is that if you’re too nice, they’ll just walk all over you. Play how you want players breed “elitism”.

Oh look, it’s this thread again.

dlonie.6547:

Not really a fan of this idea, just pointing out:

Xyonon.3987:

So 2 trolls become immortal?

Two trolls are already OP, but currently just on the kicker-side, rather than the kickee side.

This would just balance the field.

Your definition of balance is flawed. In reality, what this would do is just give ‘trolls’ double the power the already have, as they would be able to screw parties by kicking and by denying kicks.

The most efficient solution that could be made without adding new bugs to the party system would be making it so that a vote kick requires three people to kick somebody from a 5man and 4man group, and two people to kick someone from a 3man group.

Additionally they could make it so that the instance host is not kick-able, as no one in their right mind would kick the owner.

Dub.1273:

This is my greatest problem with players in this game. Just a very few people are able to think of efficient builds or strategies themselves. It’s also one part of “why I hate stacking”.
I actually don’t hate stacking at all. I hate people stacking for the sake of stacking, even in situations where you get all negative aspects, but no positive ones of it.
And even worse are AC pugs, stacking in the most supid corners available. Especially for kholer, I feel deep hate growing whenever pugs run straight north to stack in that godkitten kittenties corner of all. Let’s make sure all our cameras bug out and that mobs spawn invulnerable or out of range.

Stacking… stacking… stacking.

Stacking does work against Kholer, though.

Carighan.6758:

Killface.1896:

It is more and we need more goldsinks not inflation so its good it dont drop gold

Exactly.
We need more – and ideally only somewhat optional! – ways to remove gold from the game. In the very ideal case, they also hit the rich somewhat harder than the poor.

The TP hits the rich way harder than the poor due to that tax.

baalblade.8465:

1 year ago when i do this i tend to get 1 big chest spawn at boss after each event. Now sometime there’s none.

Yes I’m talking about the big chest, not the daily floaty chest.

As for the damage to get chest, well i get Gold Medal, so if that not considered as enough damage i don’t know what.

As for the daily is there way to check?

They reset on a daily basis at 16:00 Servertime.

Icebrood wolves are the bane of stacking.

voidwater.2064:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

I see people using the words bad design, poorly designed AI and flawed mechanics so much that it makes me believe that most of them have no idea what constitutes a good or bad AI/Mechanic.

What is a good AI?

Suppose you put a group of skilled human players in control of a group of enemies. What strategy and tactics would they use? If an AI can somewhat replicate that, I would call that good AI.

Would human players run to stack in one spot like idiots when they can’t LOS the target? What if instead, a mob, when it saw you stacking behind LOS, forms a tactically sound position and tries to lock down and nuke the ball of players?

Human players would attack more often, dodge, use their skills more intelligently (e.g., not wasting CC skills on targets with stability or blocking), scatter from AOE, choose targets more intelligently (e.g, everyone switches targets to CC and burst down a weakened player).

Personally I think the game should be more twitchy.

I also think making the mobs more trinity-like would be useful. Suppose some mobs had strong healers, their healing and damage mitigation being so strong that you must CC and/or burst them down before you can kill the rest of the enemies. These healers would constantly kite you as well.

If you try to target the healers, the rest of the enemies will switch focus to you and slam you with CC, debuffs, and nukes.

That would be a more interesting type of fight.

Considering that you (and I) know nothing or very little of this game’s engine, everything you said is just wishful thinking. Very few people actually know what technical limitations keep ANET from designing more dynamic AIs.
It is a known fact that the more complex something becomes, the more prone it comes to break or in this case, glitch.

Also, tech limitations aside, let’s talk about the limitations of the average player. Let’s suppose that ANET managed to create more intelligent AI and bosses with more challenging mechanics that can actually put players in uncomfortable positions without glitches or bugs.. How long do you think it will take before these forums explode with complaints from mediocre/lazy/unskilled players? Most of the “Elitists” would once again adapt and steamroll through content as they do today, and considering that content would actually require far better mechanical/cognitive skills, they would be granted an actual legit reason to kick casuals from their runs.
In short, you’d have the exact same situation we have these days, except that more people would whine about it, and mind you, we have a ton of whiners already.

Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m all in for a challenge, but I don’t think it should be proposed by people who haven’t ran anything that’s not CoF/AC/CM.
Most of the people that complain here are simply clueless.

Aden Celeste.3650:

You would be surprised just how much the challenge in this game has diminished because of the stacking phenomenon. Just yesterday I went to COE with a pug group and they were all completely wiped by alpha about 3 times in a row because Alpha was moving more than usual and left the corner a lot (I survived all three times after seeing the group die extremely quickly and running away), until at one point I said: Let me kill it. They agreed, and Alpha was dead in about 3 minutes.

Thing is, most people want to make believe that stacking is a sound strategy, when in reality it may not be so. I know some things are best to stack to, but if it weakens your individual skills and abilities to adapt to random situations, then whats the point?

So, basically stacking is the most optimal strat when people know how to do so properly.

I see people using the words bad design, poorly designed AI and flawed mechanics so much that it makes me believe that most of them have no idea what constitutes a good or bad AI/Mechanic.

It’s easy to say do this or do that, but so far most of the ideas I’ve read from these people are biased against the berserker meta, which makes it evident that (consciously or not) rather than wanting to improve the game, their goal is to make pure damage builds completely un-viable/impractical. All these factor makes it hard for me to take them seriously, and I’m positive that this opinion is not solely mine.

LordByron.8369:

Players are not flawed…

Stopped reading here; laughter made it too hard to continue typing.

Now, seriously, most of the players’ ideology is so terribly flawed whether they realise it or not.
Take the constant complaint threads in the BLTP section as an example. Most of the threads there suggest ideas so clueless that they would destroy gold’s purchasing power to the point of having to do as Merchant NPCs recommend and learn to barter.

I take it that some people make suggestions with the best of their intentions (though most of them are motivated by laziness or spite), but isn’t the road to hell precisely paved by those? When it comes to game design it isn’t the intent that matters.

There are numerous guides in youtube and other sites. It takes less than 30 seconds to watch a video and and perhaps a few more minutes to learn it depending on how good/poor the individual’s cognitive abilities are. Afterwards, assuming that the tactic has been fully understood, success is subject to mechanical skill.

In short, now that the most optimal strats have been discovered, any person should be able to get this done in less than 10 minutes.

Now, before the whole class balance argument is yet brought up again, here’s a video of a naked Norn with NO SKILLS/BOONS doing the achievement with no problems whatsoever

I wish I had more to say about the matter at hand, but this is all the effort I’m willing to put.

Bri.8354:

OmaiGodman.2098:

If you’re not going to go into specifics, no wonder the bug never got fixed.

There’s no point of going into specifics with people who have no power to fix the issue. Like I said, if someone at arenanet wants specifics they can message me and we can discuss the issue in private.

You know you can report it ingame, right?

As Wethospu said, they make use of Endure Pain, Defiant Stance and Shield Blocking.

I disagree.
It looks like a more serious, balanced stance to me.

Insta-kill mechanics would only enforce zerker builds further (Not that I have a problem with that).

Wait, there are people who think AC is hard?

Also, it must’ve taken a really powerful necromancer to bring this thread back from the Mists.

I like that path, but it’s soooo hard to find a decent group that actually knows what it’s doing.

Egon Vidar.9125:

This keeps happening constantly on my male sylvari mesmer when I use blink and various other similar mes skills.

It also happens on my other three male sylvari characters with various other displacement/stealth skills, but their classes (engie, warrior, necro) don’t use those mechanics as much.

My graphics settings vary generally from medium to “best performance” for big zerg events. It happens with both. It also tends to last for quite a while.

Have you updated your graphic drivers lately?

Also, that looks kittening awesome. Imagine the fear on your enemies’ eyes when they set their gazes upon the headless horseless horseman.

Fenrina.2954:

Vargamonth.2047:

I expect Elementalists to provide some might stacking (and fury through Persisting Flames) with Arcane Brilliance and Wave over fire fields.

And as an ele, I refuse. Fire Fields can actively hurt anyone using projectile finishers during the reflect phase. I do not like placing them then. And when I do, I’ve seen people dodging out of my fire fields or otherwise avoiding them. I personally can’t blame them. Part of being a decent player is avoiding doing stupid things that directly hurts allies.

The extra damage people would get from Might (and Fury) greatly outweighs the damage they would have to endure from Burning.
An even more important part of being a good player is being able to ??ses a situation and pick the best option available.

Alphard is a woman.

Valandil Dragonhart.2371:

Wings.. haha, had to laugh at that. Even though Scarlet’s knights use them as wings, we dont (yet) so they’re just called blades.

Why are metals all grey? Simply because that’s the colour most metals ARE. Honestly I thought the glow effect once you add the cores, etc. was going to be a bit better than what it is, but I’ve seen that the coloured blades look better in some maps than others thanks to many factors including map lighting, post processing, etc.

Then the Holographic wings, the shattered holo wings and the Sunless wings aren’t wings either, because we can’t use them as such.

Anierna.6918:

I remember reading the original over a month ago. it read differently than this. it was better, more poetic. and im pretty sure fenrir’s not the one who wrote that original. nobody saved it? I remember somebody had copied it into his sig.

I was the one who wrote it and also did add a little more on this one.
You’re just having a case of rosy retrospection. :P

I wrote it out of my head on a topic that was deleted more than a month ago. It was in response of a guy who had a bad experience with pugs and said “Comfort me, Elitists!”.

Took me a while to find it again, though.

This is the original:

Worry not and put your trust in the Holy Trinity of DPS.

May Power, the Father grant you His Might to rain death in the form of large numbers on top of your enemies.
May Precision, the Son, with His Fury guide your blades into the flimsiest of their armor.
May Critical Damage, the Holy Spirit, imbue you to magnify the virtues of both, the Father and the Son, so that your blows may fall heavy on your foes taking on the shape of more hard-hitting crits.

May you never degenerate and fall to the poor misguided ways of the Valkyrie, the nefarious path of the Soldier or the profane lane of the Rabid.

May your faith in the Berserker never falter, your Fury never quenched and your Might always stacked to 25.
Amen.

Mirta.5029:

Astral Projections.7320:

You can get into the final battle with her by equipping any level Spinal Blades back item.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1zjufq/ipsa_you_can_go_to_the_final_confrontation_with/

You can get into the killing of the crippled Scarlet, but not actually face her huge hologram, which is the real last boss fight. This is how it finished by the way. Not a single knight down.

If people can’t beat the knights, what makes you think they’ll beat the holograms?

Kusa.6438:

cranked.3812:

Kusa.6438:

I do this with my guild. To tell you the truth 90% of all dungeons go faster if you do them the right way. So yeah… to the lazy, no skill, exploiters…. learn to play the game plz and have some fun.

What color is the sky in your world? It must be pretty, because the drugs you are in are mighty nice.

Please show us a video of you doing a “legit” no skip/no stack dungeon run faster than a stacking/skipping run. It doesn’t even make sense from a logical point of view that you can kill 10 times the enemies and not stack to gain group buffs easier and still do the dungeon faster. The only time skipping is slower is places like dredge fractal where people don’t know how to skip, but stuff like that is few and far between.

Also, fun is relative. You enjoy doing dungeons by killing everything and getting no additional rewards, while the rest of us enjoy getting our 7389394th CoE P1 run done quickly and getting the same thing.

It just sounds like you have never ran with good players. The group I run with isn’t full zerker either. I play with the same 7 – 10 people everyday, who understand the mechanics of the game well enough to melt bosses without having to stack. From experience, about 50% of the paths in arah people skip, it’s faster just to melt through them than spend 20 mins trying to wall jump around things and wait on others. I’m not saying we kill every trash mob, but we do fight every boss as intended and it doesn’t take any longer than people in their speed runs. We have almost got it to the point where we can kill lupi within a min or 2. Maybe I will start posting videos on the forums, just for naysayers like you.

Oh dear lord. Thank you.

I really needed a good laugh.

Black Box.9312:

I feel like I’m arguing with Fox News here. Never mind then, carry on.

Never start something you can’t finish.

Zomaarwat.3912:

Turns out its just a different big creature like a Leviathan or something, and not Mordremoth

Source?

DrDivine.5378:

Becka Williams.4978:

All you need is the blue spinal backpiece. You do not need anything more than that. Go and have fun!

That’s sucks, I only have the “Spinal Blade Pack”…..

With blue he means quality, not the Dynamic one, which means that yours is enough to skip the watchknights.

ThiBash.5634:

So it IS true then…ArenaNet is forcing me to make an item I never wanted to begin with. Combined with the very poorly written story, this game has become a huge letdown. Thanks for the answers guys, this thread can be closed.

50 Iron Ingots. How terrible.

Also, that should be seen as a luxury. A very cheap luxury.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

I would highly recommend the Devs consider the lesson we learned from the 90’s Pokemon anime. Lots of continuous flashing lights on the screen is not good on the eyes. In the Scarlet battle, having to deal with tons of AOE and various flying unicorns are one thing, but the roaming holograms that act like walking strobe lights was a bit overboard. Not sure if this was a graphical glitch or a bug, but I do know that other people in my Team Speak were complaining about the same thing, so I know it’s not just me.

I know the Devs can’t undo this, but please consider it for future content. The effects make sense for what they represent, but it doesn’t take away from the fact that the combinations of flashing lights is painful.

A person prone to seizures confirmed that he had no problems to play this content, but due to the inherent randomness human anatomy encompasses, your point stands regardless.

Bread.7516:

Black Box.9312:

Bread.7516:

Black Box.9312:

Bread.7516:

Black Box.9312:

If you’re not willing to admit that you’re just as much at fault as the other party, then you are only contributing to the problem.

Check the past threads, see which side is the most common instigator/thread starter.

I’ve been here for a while now; I’ve seen more than enough to make my case.

referring to created topics (thus instigators), and anyone who has been here a while knows the answer to that

There have been plenty of instances where the ‘instigators’ in question were those coming up with snarky, often insulting responses to people that may just have simple questions that they’d like answered.

Casual runners who post in a peaceful manner get a good treatment (eg, PASSS thread and that one other thread looking for likeminded runners).

Casual runners who post threads about complaining, whining, forcing play styles, false information or claims get crap flooded on them with no pulled punches. Of course responses to these threads become snarky and insulting. They may have been simple questions but more often than not they’re people forcing an idea rather than just leaving it on the table for people to take.

Responses matter little since they’re to be expected, it’s about who fires the first shot more often.

Kaiyanwan.8521:

She was digging for answers to the horrible LS.

Unfortunately we killed her, before she could tell us if she found one.

But most things were answered over the last chapters.

That would be the case if she was American.

She’s disrupting the leylines.

Syrpharon.7491:

She was trying to find some common sense in this community, but we can tell for sure she has failed.

This is a valid answer too.

IncognitoP.1648:

Like wtf is mordremoth?
All u see is teeth
How am I supposed to know that’s mordremoth without looking it up on the forums
Nothing is explained at all

Reading is hard and common sense is rare.

Mirta.5029:

knbBlackTemplar.3059:

No i wouldn’t. Charr and Norn kid.. that thing should scream somthing like “KILL ME”

two different species can’t have offspring together. There’s a maybe between humans and norn, but charr and norn? No.

That being said I wish that this romance would get developed further. I find it sweet

Someone from ANET claimed that even Norn and Humans can’t have children together.

Trahearne didn’t take any credit for killing Zhaitan. He even mentions that it burdens him that he couldn’t help you.

Rauderi.8706:

Thanks, Zaxares and Zanshin. I’d still love to get some dev presence here, or a link to somewhere it’s been addressed.

I have to wonder the circumstances you guys have seen it succeed? Very small groups? Earlier in the event cycle?

If it’s any kind of example, I’ve been a part of 5- to 10-man teams that tackled a world boss faster than a map-full zerg. If it’s group size that’s a problem, then the events need to be tuned to right-size to the active player count. And future events should be sure that there’s never just one or two active events in place.

Since the miasma is supposed to eventually overwhelm the players and lock of the zone, I figure that the later miasma events might be rigged to be unbeatable in the time frame. Thematically apropos, but bad form to include something that can’t be beaten in a situation where players are supposed to invest time in interacting with it.

LA is always overridden by miasma 10 minutes before the hour. All the miasma events do is providing you with extra citizens to save.

swiftpaw.6397:

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This won’t end because someone typically insists on having the last word

btw I encourage people to count the created topics complaining about meta players vs created topics complaining about play how you wants.

Yes, I’d like to see this.

Adamantium.3682:

There sure is a lot of rosy retrospection going on in this thread. I enjoyed GW1, and I’m sure many of you enjoyed it and played it more than I did, but my goodness this thread would have you think copies of it belong in the Smithsonian.

I very much enjoy GW2, I think it has many advantages over the “common MMO” and I don’t at all see it as just another MMO copy. However it is simply unrealistic to think everyone is going to like GW2 (or any game). I am glad that the OP has come to a conclusion on the matter, and I hope they are able to find a much better game for them to dive into.

Saint.5647:

Haha yeah. I wanted to post him after that run but I forgot until today’s run. He was nowhere to be found. I checked the tents too. That unload has a wicked quick CD.

@Fenrir: I just wanted to put this out there because I had not (until Taka) ran into anything in game that I couldn’t Wiki. Let alone not google.

Yeah, I looked and couldn’t find anything about that guy either.

Fenrina.2954:

“Something about bonfires” is about as much as we know on how the Hylek figured out some details. The Hylek also weren’t too keen on sharing that info as the Priory weren’t directly told.

I’m not fully sure how a bonfire would help with poison analysis… unless it involves cremation.

The game leads us to understand that they did discover stuff, and though it sounds cryptic, I’m sure ANET will explain it within the next few weeks/days.

Saint.5647:

Taka the Magnificent

No wiki entry. No Google results. Never heard of him before in all the time I’ve done this dungeon.

Appeared sometime after Kayeh died instead of Tazza on FGS rush. He does PP unload attack every few seconds. Any information on him?

I suppose he’s part of Tazza’s krewe.

Frankly, I wouldn’t blame it on the good meta players at all. Their group descriptions always express what they expect clearly and concisely. The blame here is on those players who refuse to read the advertisement and just join.
My advertisement format usually goes like this:
Zerk|Speedrun|XP|PX|Already in
In an ideal world, they would have to read the whole ad to know if I’m running the path they’re looking to run. Unfortunately, this is not an ideal world, so I often get Clerics, Soldiers and other undesired stat combos despite the fact that I explicitly stated what I was looking for.

At first I wouldn’t ask them to ping their gear, as I would trust people to do their part, but after experiencing this situation over and over, I now feel compelled to do so if I want to have quick, efficient runs.

I don’t enjoy having to tell people that they don’t meet the group’s expectations and kick them afterwards, but I must.

So yeah, my beef isn’t with casual/inexperienced players. It’s just that insta-joiners happen to be casual/inexperienced most of the time.

Delay.6908:

Im pretty sure it only happens when the crystal gets bursted down very quickly, which is why you see it on your ele since the FGS #4 will destroy it almost instantly.

This is correct. If the crystal breaks the same second it was created, it glitches whoever was trapped inside.

Elrey.5472:

Unless the hyleks where affected by it somehow years ago and they did know where it’s from even if the hyleks are not the “creators” of it.

What if the miasma is from Tequatl? Hyleks are known flee from the sea because of dragons, and maybe some hyleks fleed to land because of Tequatl. Maybe tequatl poisoned some hyleks and they learned how it works that way, and maybe scarlet did get that poison…

There is a lot of “maybes” but i don’t think hyleks are the poison source.

You know Hylek are masters of poison, right? Long before Tequatl.

“The hylek are a Tyrian frogman species. They have lately spread in increasing numbers along coasts surrounding the Sea of Sorrows, such as the Tarnished Coast, the Krytan coasts, and the coasts to the west of the Shiverpeak Mountains. Although once reclusive and xenophobic, some of the hylek tribes now welcome trade with outsiders. Other tribes, especially those that produce the deadliest toxins, are still very hostile. Their hostility can be determined by their colors – blue hylek are always friendly, green are mostly friendly, orange/yellow are mostly hostile, and red are always hostile. Hylek are renowned alchemists for their mastery of poisons and antidotes”.
-Wiki

Black Box.9312:

cranked.3812:

People for stacking and skipping don’t discredit those who are against it.

Yes they do. People fling kitten at each other from both sides; neither party is innocent in the slightest.

Not really, this is because when non-stackers enter a party of stackers, they get kicked. Non-stacking/skipping parties are so rare that it is unlikely that a stacker will end up in one, and once he’s a minority, he’ll simply leave.

However, if by discrediting you mean telling people in the forums how inefficient their methods are, then you’re kinda right, but that only occurs as a result of the endless amount of threads moaning about stacking/skipping.