Guild Wars 2

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scerevisiae.1972:

call your bank and cancel the charge on your credit card if you’re serious.

What this guy said, unless you just wanted some attention. :P

This guy was my personal favorite. Sexy voice & accent, feet on the ground and completely straightforward.

coso.9173:

let’s see how things will be in 1 year from now:
old player paid 160$ = played 4 years of the game.
new player paid 100$ = played 1 year of the game.
sounds fair to me.

What if this “old player” bought the account somewhere around January, February or April, on this year, though?

Ashen.2907:

For the $50 price tag of HoT everyone gets an account with both core content and expansion content included. Players with existing accounts are allowed, but not required, to forgo the newly purchased account, if they so choose, in order to link to the existing account.

The price someone paid for an existing account as much as (close to) three years ago is irrelevant to what is provided in the HoT bundle. The bundle provides exactly the same for everyone, for the same $50, with the previously mentioned exception that a veteran has an option not available to a first time buyer.

I think it is worth noting that a new account does not include something inherent to the mentioned veteran account: three years of play, past content, and accumulated rewards.

I don’t follow. Is there any other MMO that goes by this logic out there? Like, is it common practice to charge money, on top of the actual purchase, to keep your progress? Because, in almost two decades of gaming, I haven’t seen such an example elsewhere.

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Julie Yann.5379:

You forgot the side that doesn’t care that new players are getting the game for free but feel that HoT is too little content to warrant a 50$ price tag and that the only reason it has a 50$ price tag is because they bundled the value of the core game into the price of the expansion. All these people want is good value for their money but so far they aren’t seeing it. Entitlement has nothing to do with it.

I’m with this guy. While I do most definitely want to support ANET, I haven’t seen enough to warrant that price.

It’s almost like you actually believe yourself to be better than them. You said it yourself, they are on one extreme, and you are on the other. Extremes are irrational, no matter what side they’re on.

thehipone.6812:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

thehipone.6812:

And some people grow up, mature, realize that life is not always 110% always and absolutely uniform (or “fair”, but that is highly subjective) and stop throwing the same tantrums that children do.

Immediately resorting to ad hominem only puts question over your own maturity.

Ah, the old “I know you are but what am I” defense. Well played.

I’m also not the first to note the striking parallels that I referenced. http://www.killtenrats.com/2015/06/17/gw2-parenting-and-the-heart-of-thorns-pre-purchase/
Sure, it may not have been precisely the right marketing move, but the rage and salt both here and in game has been appallingly bad.

Well, I don’t really care about new players getting things. I’m just trying to say that everybody should be able to express their opinion, without being targets of personal attacks. While trying to change their perception of things by showing them your own might help them see things from a different angle, targeting them personally will only make them angry and a lot less likely to listen to you, or anyone that shares your point of view, helping no one and heating things further..

thehipone.6812:

And some people grow up, mature, realize that life is not always 110% always and absolutely uniform (or “fair”, but that is highly subjective) and stop throwing the same tantrums that children do.

If that makes you feel better about yourself and your investments, then by all means go ahead continue basing your life on that philosophy of yours, but please do not try to belittle others by calling them manchildren just because they’re fighting against something that they perceive as wrong. Immediately resorting to ad hominem only puts question over your own maturity.

As for my own opinion, I haven’t been bought by what I have seen to this moment. The content that they have displayed hasn’t had enough appeal to me to warrant a 50 dollar expense. Need more reveals.

Dragonhunter.

jk please no infract me, I just wanted to be popular QQ

MattyP.6954:

There will probably be Open Beta Weekends for preorders.

That contradicts the principle of Open Beta.

Iris Ng.9845:

Dolyak can’t jump. Booooooo!!!

Some things are just too good to exist.

Wethospu.6437:

I would remove all consumables from the game.

What about tonics, though? Arah skips are a lot more fun when you’re a dolyak or a cat.

I would like one or two extra item slots to place my spare weapons or consumables, too. Or at the very least, I’d appreciate that my inventory didn’t resize itself anytime it wants.

Quells.2498:

I don’t see how others can be bored. There’s so much to do I literally don’t know where to start each day I log in.

Different people have different motivations. From the PvE perspective, all the dungeons are pretty much the same as they were on launch, save for a few bug fixes, a few tweaks here and there and new bugs that take forever to fix, or even notice (I’m looking at you, Lupi).

If you’re not crazy about PvP/World content, then the game has become stagnant to you at this point.

It would be funny if they changed Chronomancer to some other high concept and left Dragonhunter as it is. Hee hee.

Necro -> GS
Thief -> Probably Rifle
Ele -> Might be Sword
Ranger -> Staff
Guardian -> Longbow
Mesmer -> Shield
Engineer -> Hammer
Warrior -> My guesses are Pistol, Shortbow or (MAYBE) Torch. Or something else.

These are the weapons warriors can’t currently handle, and my very own opinion about them.

Staff: Most of the staff skins we currently possess do not look like they can double as Quarterstaves.
Shortbow: Might be, though I wouldn’t be a fan of it.

Focus: Doubt it. Foci can range from books to random organs. So, they don’t seem plausible, at all.

Torch: Maybe they could burn things with it, like the barbarians of days past).

Scepter: Same as foci:

Pistol: Rytlock is a warrior and can wield a pistol, so this might be it, especially considering Marjory, Trahearne and Necros getting GSwords.

Dagger: Maybe, but I wouldn’t count on it.

And no one cares about UW weapons (Tridents are for pansies).

I like Trahearne, so no, you don’t speak on my behalf.

EcoRI.9273:

Yeah probably but it will be challenging for a while until people figure out the next OP strat. And in MY ideal world if I was in charge of balancing gw2, I would probably nerf that dominant strategy in a month after its discovery. This was basically how GW1 was balanced and it kept the game fresh(at least for me).

Or you could, you know, add more content. Or alter the content, so that the players have to try different strategies to beat it.

Nerfing ability, after ability endlessly tends to weigh people down. Poor business strategy.

EcoRI.9273:

maha.7902:

EcoRI.9273:

maha.7902:

EcoRI.9273:

So I have been doing fotm lately with LOD and I have to say, the berserker team comp meta is seriously trivializing the content. Mossman gets nuked past 50% with 1 icebow freeze combo. Archdiviner’s daze with meteor shower precast followed by icebow freeze combo trivialized him. Svanir in snowblind gets nuked and literally die before teleporting up. Imbued grawl shaman icebow freeze after his bubble pops is a little too OP. Mai trin stealth icebow nuke is OP if the warrior or guard can face tank mai.

pretty sure you mean “playing with decent players is trivialising content”.

your random pug in full berserker probably isn’t melting bosses at fractal 50.

Yes, and I would prefer content to be challenging even with decent players which I feel can be accomplished by nerfing icebow and maybe a little on meteor shower.

except it won’t

we did a 4w/1g dungeon tour months ago and it was just brain afk smash your face on keyboard.

no eles required, content being three years old makes it trivial and boring.

I don’t really care about the difficulty of dungeons at this point of the game because as every one has said, the content is 3years old therefore its easy but I honestly feel without icebow in FOTM, that 3year old content is still challenging.

It certainly can still be challenging, if you chop your hands off.

When words just don’t cut it…

My immersion shall never again be oppressed by the tyranny of those walls.

Derenek.8931:

You are a pathetic troll.

My my. Have we resorted to name-calling this soon? It usually occurs somewhere around page two.

Good heavens, you’re so out of schedule. We were supposed to get that 247th anti-stacking thread weeks ago.

No, no. Such a poorly written post does not deserve a reply, let alone four paragraphs.

This has been a thing for a while, after they removed dungeon ownership.

Jerus.4350:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Raven.3248:

Why not make a hard mode? Hard mode will keep lupi like this and change alphard back before he was nerfed.

She. Alphard is a lady.

Do undead things really have a gender though?

That’s racist.

The thing is, there are rude, irrational players on both sides, that instead of creating their own groups, will join others’ and attempt to force them to play their way, either directly, by scoffing at their groupmates’ builds or indirectly, by joining a group whose standards they do not meet and hoping not to get caught.

These kind of people act the way they do, because they perceive their needs to be above of others’. Human nature is disgusting.

Dante.1763:

Ya know..i wonder how many of these threads would not happen if people respected each other and the LFG messages…

This is true.

Raven.3248:

Why not make a hard mode? Hard mode will keep lupi like this and change alphard back before he was nerfed.

She. Alphard is a lady.

wauwi.9162:

It’s just that there’s ZERO reason to do anything else, but go full zerk and melee weapons with power builds in PvE, up to the point, where some professions can’t even find already rare groups to run dungeons with.

Don’t you guys ever get tired of using this argument? Earlier today, I started a group on CoE, advertised as “P1 | Everyone welcome”. I left the PC to grab a glass of water, and by the time I had returned, it was already full (their performance was so horrid that they made me look like a complete pro, but that’s a different topic altogether).

So, I wonder, do you actually try gathering people before using this as an excuse, or are my groups just that attractive?

TheRandomGuy.7246:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Elrey.5472:

Example

• An enemy is going to kill your friend!
• You use taunt
• The enemy stop attacking your friend and goes after you, so your friend can move away and you efficiently saved his life.

That’s why it doesn’t need to be longer than 3 seconds. It’s not suppose to be used to tank something, it’s just another effect that can be used against the enemies and it’s up to us to find kitteneful way to use it (like i did with that example)

I might be wrong, but I believe that a stun, or a knockback could be used to achieve the same result.

Not with the brand new defiance system. All your knockbacks are useless now and only reduce break bar.

Wouldn’t taunt also reduce the bar if not timed right? That is, unless it is a condition and not a status. I wouldn’t know.

Elrey.5472:

Example

• An enemy is going to kill your friend!
• You use taunt
• The enemy stop attacking your friend and goes after you, so your friend can move away and you efficiently saved his life.

That’s why it doesn’t need to be longer than 3 seconds. It’s not suppose to be used to tank something, it’s just another effect that can be used against the enemies and it’s up to us to find kitteneful way to use it (like i did with that example)

I might be wrong, but I believe that a stun, or a knockback could be used to achieve the same result.

robertul.3679:

Instead of making the mobs scale with your gear and builds(??) maybe just add a debuff that for every piece of berserker gear you have you deal 10% less damage.
Call it “tryhard elitism”. Kinda like the fractal instability is called.

Brood not, brothers of the Berserker’s Branch, though bruised may our backbone be, should this blight be brought upon us to blunt our brawn, a beacon of hope still breathes. Affected not by this atrocious ailment, the Association of the Assassin shall aid us on our affray.

Jokes aside, it would be funny if an stability completely negated your gear’s stats and instead gave you an equal amount of their counterparts.

’Tis nothing, but human nature.

Instead of improving and climbing upwards to new heights, people often prefer to drag others down to their level.

It might also be that some of them have had unsavory experiences with pseudo-speedclear groups.

Rialen.1524:

This is ridiculous. If no one else is gonna say it, then ill be the one to do it.
A brief list as to why:
1. This would be unbelievably immersion breaking.

Right…

They seem to be running some sort of perma-vigor build with Energy Sigils and Runes of the Adventurer. Maybe if we keep bumping the thread, they’ll run out of endurance and one of our questions will land.

I’m lame.

Zelyhn Lekovitch.2867:

What if taunt is applied by two different sources at the same time?

The enemy is torn in half and dies.
New taunt meta inbound.

One single abuser would be easier to pinpoint than two or more, but clearly ANET is not very fond of logic and practicality

Started doing Fractals sometime between February and May on the 2013 and stopped doing them shortly after the last Feature Patch.
I got… Sword, Dagger, Scepter, Pistol, Warhorn, Greatsword, Hammer, Longbow, Rifle, Shortbow, and Trident.

I lack… Axe, Mace, Torch, Shield, Focus, Staff, Harpoon and Speargun.
So, it’s 11/19 for me.

Frankly, I would settle for that one solution. Even if it would be much like applying a band-aid on a stab would, it might report better results than what we currently have.

Windsagio.1340:

Giving leader special powers and protection puts uneven protection on the people participating in the group.

You’re saying this as if it were too difficult for anyone, and I mean anyone to Create an instance-> Open the LFG tool-> Type Story/P1/P2/P3/P4-> Hit Send.

If an individual can purchase the game, install it and play it, then chances are that they can host their own group without major issues (They can even specify that they’re new, and the party will still fill up in less than 5 minutes).

It is also worth noting that the current system and the old system are the exact same system. The only thing they did was unbinding the instance from its creator.

Anyhow, I suppose that most of the players do not care about a problem, real or potential, until they see themselves affected by it. Sooner or later.

Windsagio.1340:

That’s worse than any problem we currently have.

You sure about that? I’d say having two people being able to kick anyone out of a party at any given time is far worse. Especially since the kicked party members would not be sure of who started the kick vote and who seconded it, considering that the party chat gets wiped (or at least it did when I played more often) between loading screens.
One bad apple can get the name and shame treatment, whereas these offenders we have today can remain relatively untouched, until they abuse their little trick enough for a GM to notice. This system was awful yesterday and it still is awful today.

Zui.9245:

Windsagio.1340:

Grok Krog.9581:

All we need really is to have a party leader system. Leader can’t be kicked, and majority vote is needed to kick.

No, because then we’re back where we were before. We had a leader system, and they took it out because of the problems.

We had an owner-with-no-power-except-kicking-destroys-instance system with everything else left up to plurality vote. That’s not a party leader system; a party leader system is something altogether different.

Agreed.

The only system this game needs is a strong leadership. While the GMs arguably punish offenders every now and then, it would be far easier and more efficient to allow the creator of the party to handle things their way.

Wethospu.6437:

Reputation system would work best. With enough negative votes you would lose ability to kick people.

I support this one.

With all due respect, those threads would not exist or be as prevalent if the group system didn’t make it so easy for a pair of players to screw over another group of players and if your support responses looked like you’re actually listening, instead of using (mediocre) automated responses.

ANET won’t change it. I lost my faith on that one long ago.

These days I only log on once after each update or when friends prompt me to.

This Whining meta has to end. It has killed thread diversity too long. This game has such a great deal of things to discuss about, and you should truly be able to talk about all of them. However, unless you browse really closely or create your own thread, then people will lure you into stupid threads that have been argued for longer than a year. Start creating interesting threads!

Scholar all the way.
Scholar best rune.