Guild Wars 2

Darox.8069:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Darox.8069:

Gyler.8150:

Whelp, it’s in the dungeon forums, the other dev recycle bin.

Recycle bin is a nice way to call this concentration camp.

I suggest we rename the dungeon subforum to Auschwitz

Alternatively they could call it what it is: look at the dungeon forum icon,
It’s a pile of s..omething in a frame.

Then I suggest the icon to be replaced by something like this.

From the looks of it, English is probably not his mother tongue, so it’s probably for the better of both of you not to argue any further.

Darox.8069:

Gyler.8150:

Whelp, it’s in the dungeon forums, the other dev recycle bin.

Recycle bin is a nice way to call this concentration camp.

I suggest we rename the dungeon subforum to Auschwitz

Azrael.4960:

Taygus.4571:

Azrael.4960:

Simple tip, if you’re going to pug a dungeon without guildies always host your own run. If they kick you then poof their run is gone.

If everybody hosted their own run, there would be no runs.

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At op, I’d suggest adding everyone you party with to your friends list, this will allow you to block them in the future/report. (I think you still have to send them a whisper to get their name on your chat list again)
You also get to know decent runners this way. Can also remove the names at the end of the run, a liitle bit of extra hassle…but totally worth it, to block people

Expanding a suggestion into an invalid generalisation. A large proportion of people won’t list on LFG since they will run with guildmates or friends.

Running a dungeon with a pug is akin to the lottery, will you get kittenbags? will you get noobs? will you get fun people? will you get abusive sorts? It’s a risk all random puggers take

It’s PuG Roulette!

Sorry, guys and thanks for covering.

Busy Friday.

Reborn.2934:

Realist.5812:

Still broken.

Core elements of the game are still broken.

Gem store still receives constant updates. Bugs affecting the core of the game are ignored. Slow clap.

no it is not still broken . it is fixed . i just tested it .

seems ,someone necro a lot of old bugs !

Can you pretty please, with sugar on top tell us whether the target was idle or moving?
Were you under the effects of any boon such as swiftness or movement impairing conditions like Crippled or Chilled?

How many times have you tested it with each variable?

Ken DeBoer.9268:

mexay.3902:

Then we find out that the Fractal Weapon Box we were promised in the patch notes isn’t even in the game.

They actually have been coded in the game, they are just not obtainable because they drop in fractals lv 51+.

Whether they’re coded into the game or not is irrelevant, as they can’t be obtained.

I’m no programmer, but I don’t think that it takes a lot of effort to add an item whose mechanic (doubleclick->pick something) has been already in the game forever.

If, say, whatever new legendary items they’re cooking were already in the game, it would mean something, as it must take some effort to design and develop them.

I wouldn’t be irked this much about it if they would at the very least give us a heads-up on the matter, whether it is to show that they’ve acknowledged the existence of the issue or attempt to debunk it by showing us their numbers.

Hey, I found an uninformed post of mine.

Thanks, oh kind Necromancer.

spoj.9672:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Gyler.8150:

SkyFallsInThunder.8257:

Stop necroing ancient threads…

Careful, you will anger the necro god and bring Dhuum to us all!

Grenth doesn’t like having the dead resurrected.

Nope that was Dhuum who didnt tolerate ressing.

Any god whose domain is death wouldn’t take very kindly being cheated.
One of his Reapers even tasks you to kill one of his reanimated priests.

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

a non-FGS run (which is what I thought we were doing)

“Guys, we need to fell some trees, and though we have axes, saws and other power tools that would make the job fast and efficient, I suggest we ditch them in favour of using our bare hands, some kitchen knives and this slinky”.

Ugh, the Fractal Weapon Box…

kittenmit, ANET. Why would you even mention it if you weren’t going to add it to the game to begin with? Jerks.

Ken DeBoer.9268:

Good Morning Devs,

I just wanted to say that you have finally broken my will to continue with fractals.

To quote the 3/18 patch notes:
“- Ascended armor and weapons now drop more often from all levels of fractals, particularly as the fractal level increases.
- Ascended armor pieces will drop more often than ascended weapons."

Thanks to the guys and gals in [LOD] Legion of Doom, [SC] Snow Crows (EU), [ZoS] Zealots of the Shiverpeaks, [Keen] Commander Keen (EU) for putting together this document: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Av4NvDVKEaOzdHJPaTlsRU5LeEJWN3hodklXWGFCU1E&usp=drive_web#gid=0

Show that the drop rates before and after the patch, and we can see there there has been a severe drop in the rates.

Determined that I will buck the trend, I pushed through running my “Daily Disappointment” fractal. I ran 20s, 30s, 40s, and alas after 75 runs, with 1 skin and 1 armor chest, I’ve given up.

I am completely discouraged that the Devs have not responded to all the evidence that we have provided regarding the Fractal drops. Now I know there will be people who will say that they have received skins upon skin, and chest after chest, but they are the exception, not the norm.

You will receive more praise from us double checking your math with the drops then staying silent. I’m not asking to have these skins so common that they become the status of the rings, but to have a real chance to see these things drop.

So this is the end of Fractals for me until we have a message from Anet.

Thanks for listening and happy adventuring,
Ken

Welcome to the club. <:

I reached level 50 three or four weeks post-fractured and had been running 30, 40 and 49 on an almost daily basis until last month-ish. At that point I just gave up.
Perhaps they’ll make them a little bit more rewarding someday, because even counting the rares and the occasional exotics, I profit way more from running AC123 (which takes much less time and an exceptionally lesser amount of effort, too).

I’ll just wait for better times, while spending the current in a more efficient manner.

Dusty Moon.4382:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Dusty Moon.4382:

That would be too hard to implement and I can see that there would be a huge exploit issue. NO

It is the truth – when A.Net brought in the Ursan skill, they thought it would be a hard skill to use and situational. It was exploited for 6 months before it was nerfed into oblivion.

All players want a balanced game but the balance HAS to be in their favor not others. This whole issue smacks of that exact attitude.

But you can’t stop progress out of fear of something going wrong.

Frankly speaking, they should just implement a less tedious way to equip-unequip items/pop consumables. Having to open your inventory/Hero panel, look for it among your many other weapon/armor sets/consumables, find->double click it consumes too much time.

Though I understand that they deliberately avoid burden of knowledge, having such a clunky gameplay deters new players from the game and some people even see themselves forced to employ third-party programs, even if it goes against the ToS.

Even the oldest games, such as Ragnarok Online had a way to swap your gear with one or two key presses. They could even limit themselves to adding three key-bindable extra slots to the skill bar exclusively dedicated to items and it wouldn’t be anything too hard to learn.

Dusty Moon.4382:

That would be too hard to implement and I can see that there would be a huge exploit issue. NO

Edit: For some reason this got posted three times in a row. GG forums.

Gyler.8150:

SkyFallsInThunder.8257:

Stop necroing ancient threads…

Careful, you will anger the necro god and bring Dhuum to us all!

Grenth doesn’t like having the dead resurrected.

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

I guess hendo’s scared, I put up the build and now he’s saying he won’t run it.

So there’s that. Anyone else wants to take a shot at it, feel free.

I would be scared, too. The only thing you forgot was suggesting to fill any remaining slots with necros.

Adinay.5381:

Embrace The Bold.7619:

Anyone who says the skins are 5% must be lucky. I’m sitting at 500+ runs and have 4 skins that’s about 1% drop rate. The skin grind is dumb when you leave it to rng. Anet plz give us a way to trade relics for skins.

What fractal level are you doing? That’s nuts.

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Adinay.5381:

Ok I will go stare at my bank full of fractal skins while you QQ here. Good day!

It appears little minds are amused by little things. <:

I never claimed to be a clever man!

You forgot your keys or something?

Adinay.5381:

Ok I will go stare at my bank full of fractal skins while you QQ here. Good day!

It appears little minds are amused by little things. <:

Adinay.5381:

A static group I run with tested this. 5 People, 100 runs of level 28, 38 and 48. The average drop chance for a fractal skin for us was:

28: 1/16 chance
38: 1/8 chance
48: 1/4 chance

That seems fair to me. If you only have time for a 48 a day, you’d still get 1-2 skins a week. If you have time for a 28, 38, and 48, you’d get a skin every 2 days.

Even casual players that only do a 28 a day get a skin every 2 weeks or so.

Leave it as it is please Anet.

I would agree that ANET should leave it as it is if your numbers were right, but they aren’t.

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

geogyf.5087:

Because it was never the Zerk gear that was OP.

Rangers are required to have Zerk gear and are usually kicked from the Zerk Groups.

If you notice the Zerk groups, you will notice usually only 3 classes.

Warriors & Guardians (zerk gear)
Mesmers (for the aoe invisibility)

You can blame the Zerk gear all you want, but in reality its the
Warrior/Guardian – Zerk combination that is OP

You posted this in the wrong thread, I think you were looking for this one:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Most-Uninformed-Embarassing-Personal-Posts

Noah.4756:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

kitten those necromancers, man. Why can’t they let the dead rest?

Topic is still very active so why shouldn’t it be allowed to bump it up? I could make a new thread about it but this thread already has far more interesting replies than yours.

You realise I said that jokingly, right?

I’ve necro’d a few threads myself.

kitten those necromancers, man. Why can’t they let the dead rest?

maha.7902:

Of course I mean active defenses, if I thought healing and tanking was worth doing I wouldn’t even be in the guild I am in.

Then we cool?

Enaretos.8079:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Most of the people I’ve met have been real nice, though.

You’ve been quite nice as well that day man. You didn’t tell the pug I was experienced and I could troll some more

Hah, thanks.

Had a good time with you, guys.

maha.7902:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

maha.7902:

DPS is not the only thing that matters in PvE, I really wish people would stop spreading this lie around.

Truth is, once an individual has attained a decent grip on the game’s mechanics, his profession and the dungeon at hand, DPS is the only thing that matters.

Actually, support is crucial and even worth giving up damage modifiers in some cases. I didn’t expect to have to tell you of all people that. The game being a dps race is just a myth perpetuated by bad players who don’t understand the work involved in achieving smooth runs since they don’t pay any attention to the skills people are using while stacked.

Depends on what you mean by support. If you mean boon-sharing, reflects and other active defenses, then I agree with you and that was included within having a grip on the game’s mechanics and are not linked to gear in any way, shape or form. However, if you meant healing and tanking damage with the face, then you’re incorrect, my friend.

Chaos.3579:

2nd. this is a game not real life. yes life is hard and in alot of places the environment is not safe or nice
however seeing as this is a game and not real life then there should be a nice social environment free of scamming and other harsh behavior toxicating the social environment.

Hahah, this argument.

If you truly think people will be all bunnies, rainbows, kitten and giggles in videogames because they’re videogames, then you seriously need to snap out of your naiveté, man.

These people you play with are not from a mythical world where pain and grief are non-existing; they all inhabit the same world as you, and if the world is unsafe and unfriendly, you can expect some or a lot of those attitudes to work their way into your MMOs.

Most of the people I’ve met have been real nice, though.

maha.7902:

DPS is not the only thing that matters in PvE, I really wish people would stop spreading this lie around.

Truth is, once an individual has attained a decent grip on the game’s mechanics, his profession and the dungeon at hand, DPS is the only thing that matters.

Goon for Hire.7150:

No. I’ll leave after I’ve said my piece.

Good, good.
Bye then.

Goon for Hire.7150:

Wethospu.6437:

So we should intentionally avoid stacking because of other MMOs?

Fixed that for you. But let’s not go crazy here, we all know it’s not going to happen.

I’d be happy if players stopped acting all smug about it while pretending that it’s “working as intended”. That’s just embarrassing.

But we’re acting like it’s working as intended because it is!
Really, if you’re going to insist on using that stupid argument, at least back it up with some proof. Find a developer post saying that it’s an unintended mechanic or something, because arguments don’t become facts just because you want them to be.

English is pretty weird.

VideoGamermike.5813:

meme

Ew.

As much as I hate to bump my own threads, I think it’ll be better if I post this here.

1 And I, the Lord Power, spake unto the players, saying: That Healing Power, whom thou hast refused, is the same which was from the beginning, and he came before me, saying—Behold, here am I, send me, I will be thy son, and I will haltingly clear all dungeons, that one casual player shall not be downed or kicked, and surely I will do it; wherefore give me thine Might.

2 But, behold, my Beloved Son, Precision, which was my Beloved and Chosen from the beginning, said unto me—Father, thy will be done, and the Might be thine forever.

3 Wherefore, because that Healing Power rebelled against me, and sought to drag out the dungeon runs of players, which I, the Lord Power, had given him, and also, that I should give unto him mine own Might; by the Fury of mine Only Begotten, I caused that he should be cast down.

4 And he became Cleric’s, yea, even the Magi’s, the father of all lethargy, to slow down and to impede men, and to lead them captive to his PuGs, even as many as would not hearken unto my Shouts.

VideoGamermike.5813:

frifox.5283:

Zerker is a religion.

Yah I know this is supposed to be a joke but….he’s not wrong. there seems to be a group out there(and in this forum) who preached DPS over all. There was a thread literally rewriting bible passages into berserker worship.

You rang?

Power, our Lord

1 And I, the Lord Power, spake unto the players, saying: That Healing Power, whom thou hast refused, is the same which was from the beginning, and he came before me, saying—Behold, here am I, send me, I will be thy son, and I will haltingly clear all dungeons, that one casual player shall not be downed or kicked, and surely I will do it; wherefore give me thine Might.

2 But, behold, my Beloved Son, Precision, which was my Beloved and Chosen from the beginning, said unto me—Father, thy will be done, and the Might be thine forever.

3 Wherefore, because that Healing Power rebelled against me, and sought to drag out the dungeon runs of players, which I, the Lord Power, had given him, and also, that I should give unto him mine own Might; by the Fury of mine Only Begotten, I caused that he should be cast down.

4 And he became Cleric’s, yea, even the Magi’s, the father of all lethargy, to slow down and to impede men, and to lead them captive to his PuGs, even as many as would not hearken unto my Shouts.

deSade.9437:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

IvanTheGrey.2941:

And the seventh angel doth poured his vial onto the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, IT IS BERSERKER

Lo and behold!

(I promise I’ll reDL my image editing software. Soon. Maybe).

Oh my got.
Can I… Can I worship you?

I am but a humble servant of the Berserker, spreading the message; a gospel that can be heard as a voice of gladness. A voice of thunder that compels us to stack together, sharing the Might of our Lord and the Fury of His Only Begotten amongst our kinfolk, devoted to one purpose: The Speedclearing of content.

Thou shalt worship only the one true Holy Trinity of DPS.

Ah, I sure love the trash- ahem, dungeon subforum.

Corax.7381:

Hail Berserker.

The one true religion.

Lest they repent, shall the heathens be consumed by the flames of our Lord’s Fiery Greatsword, empowered by the Son’s Fury and magnified by the Ferocity of the Holy Spirit; and cast down to the sluggish depths of PuGs.
There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth.

I think this sums it up quite nicely.

Edit: Quoting people quoting people takes too much space. Removed the quotes.

IvanTheGrey.2941:

And the seventh angel doth poured his vial onto the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, IT IS BERSERKER

Lo and behold!

(I promise I’ll reDL my image editing software. Soon. Maybe).

The game isn’t antisocial, a part of its community is.

frifox.5283:

Zerker is a religion.

It is.

Lalocat.6793:

Fror.2163:

/ignore VideoGamermike.5813
So, based on your advices, I used the beloved /kick command.

I created that LFG, said zerker meta builds only for a full run of AC. I didn’t care for the profession, just meta-build.

Do you know what I got? Dozens of guardians with staff. First pug to join, a necro zerker, a real one! God bless him! And then the journey into oblivion started. Kick over kick. The staff guardians aligned to join, I kept asking to ping their main weapon, all of them were staves. So that was a real kickfest

Awesome, please keep using “meta” in your group description so I know not to join. Not being snarky, that is one of the key words I look for to know not to join. Other words that keep me out are gear ping and speed run. I want fast, but I just don’t take it all so seriously.

/salute
Though we wouldn’t get along very well in dungeons, I truly respect that instead of attempting to force others to play the way you want to play, you create your own groups or join others with like-minded players.

This community would be better if there were more players like you in both sides.

Relogging fixes the issue as well.

You (man)handle them out of your party, of course.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ash_Legion_Spy_Kit

Enaretos.8079:

Lucas.9157:

Point of the joke is to have lolz.

If you didn’t, I’m sorry. I promise I’ll come up with something that gives optimal laugh for everyone.

That’s too efficient, it’s not gonna appeal to them :/

Efficiency is a stigma.

I’m still pretty godkitten mad that they didn’t fulfill their promise of fixing the iWarden’s erratic behavour, while also breaking it further, so it now only reflects projectiles back at their source when the source is next to the iWarden.

Disappointment.

This was an intentional change made by ANET several months ago.

Lindbur.2537:

A simpler solution would be to realise that you’ve made your point and stop repeating the same stuff.

I’m sure I’m not alone when I say that I’m getting tired of reading the same stuff on these forums day in day out. You won’t be the first, and I doubt you’ll be the last.

Oh well, I’ll just leave the witty comments to my bro deSade, then.

/goeselsewhere

You are certainly not alone in this.
If I read the word stigma one more time I think I’ll have an aneurysm.

Shh… ignore him and maybe he’ll go away.

VideoGamermike.5813:

Alreayd made an edit to the dodge. But you guys are unintentionally not helping. this is the first dungeon in the game, and we have to keep track of an animation that lasts 2 seconds, time our dodges to it perfectly, or reflect, all with no warning of it. That’s a lot easier said than done, especially for someone not trained to notice that.

Friend, an animation that obvious with such a long windup is not hard to evade at all. Even when playing a class with uninterruptible abilities (such as a MH sword ranger’s AA), you can easily avoid all damage from this ability.
Not to mention that any decent guardian/mesmer can reflect it to save the group some endurance.