I sometimes switch them out for forge
Eheh, now i like you. I kinda agree on your point tho, since my build is quite different.
I think protection is way more valuable.
Idd bro idd that’s why dwayna runes are not the best.
I heard you are best ranger in antarctica as well but no you won’t stand a chance against those africans. Gl on the engi.
Lol ppl still complain about eles, i bet the op plays a thief, he got pwnd by a good ele and the tactic “i spam some random skill” didn’t work.
Anet guyZ have no love for archery. It’s not really a supposition, it’s a fact.
I had the same problem m8, atm i’m using eir’s longbow…it’s quite realistic and i love the skin.
We even have (bad looking) compound bows…http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/File:Steam_Bow.jpg
Sadly most bows look terribad, like the vigil or the destroyer, or the legendary ones…shiny skins with “c00l” effects but they don’t even look like bows. The vigil one has blades, not limbs.
Oh and the kudzu is even bugged or something…just look at the string, it doesn’t reach the string nock/bow tip:
http://media-ascalon.cursecdn.com/attachments/2/13/634867718501544438.jpg
Idd, a real traditional bow fires differently, and the sound is different too. But i kinda like it anyway.
Spvp needs more variety and definitely can be improved. Still i love it. There’s no way pve could be better. Pve lovers (a good % at least) simply are too afraid to match other players. And ye i’m a narcissist.
1-Long-Ranged shot. Its already been said this skill NEEDS to be same damage across all ranges. What I suggest they do in its place is make it so this skill has 1500 range untraited, and when traited has 1800 and at 0-1000 range we get 10% more crit chance, 1001-1500 range we get 20% and at 1501-1800 we get 30% crit chance, this would make LRS useful while at close range but incredibly dangerous at max, and it would have the extra range to make it feel like a true sniper skill.
Completely agree on that. That’s the first and most important thing they should change. The dmg should definitely be the same at all ranges and they should boost the dmg a bit, the autoatt speed is already slow enough (which is fine tbh, is quite realistic).
I think the range is ok as it is (1200, 1500 traited). The +%crit chance at range is a cool idea and way better than the dmg increase: when an arrow is shot it immediately begins to lose velocity because of drag; as the velocity decreases, so will the kinetic energy. And pls don’t bring the fantasy game kitten up pls, the lb autoatt doesn’t make any sense. The +% cit chance at range is not realistic as well ofc, but fits the “sniper idea” very well after all.
2-Rapid Fire. I really think this skill should mirrow warriors volley attack, 5 shots in 2.5 secs, or apply vulnerability per hit, or possibly a 50% chance too. Thats really it.
I agree it should be similar to warrior volley. Vulnerability will be a little too much, since we already have hunter’s shot.
3-Hunters Shot. This skill should do more damage, possibly around the 2k range on high toughness, or cripple along with the vulnerability. Or make it a full blown snipe skill like kill shot or sniper shot from scout, it needs work, idc how they do it.
Mmm a cripple would be really cool, but hunter’s shot is quite strong as it is imo (it gives our pet swift as well).
4-Point Blank Shot. This skill should do more damage, since its really only useable when enemies get in close. Make it so it cripples as well as knocks back, or make it so it knocks back and increase its damage by about 100%-150% that way it can be a third damage option, as it is, its just annoying. If people have to worry about taking that skill to the face they might think twice about zerging us.
Damage is quite fine imo, a cripple is needed tho, is a cool idea and will boost the skill a bit.
5-Barrage. This skill is mostly fine, it could use about 25% more damage, no restriction as to how many enemies it hits, and a shorter cd, maybe lower it too 30 without quickdraw. Although Id prefere 25 so quickdraw brings it to a flat 20.
Nah barrage is fine, i don’t want them to boost barrage dmg tbh, aoe is already annoying enough in this game. Cd is ok as well.
An evasive Bunker has not much more HP in my Opinion. He is focused on regeneration and Protection combined with lots of Toughness and Condition removal to heal up lost HP relatively quickly.
Remember as less HP you have as easier it is to recover them by your healing skills. The only thing why you need vitality is due to conditions which bypass your toughness/armor.
Vitality is important vs condition yes but not only that. You can absorb burst combos much better. Also the key is never sacrifice your toughness; a ranger could easily get 2100+ tough, 22k hp and almost 2k power (without bloodlust). Protection is the most important thing, that’s why using dolyak runes is not the best option.
@Fjandi.2516
Its called evasion tank, his condi damage is very little, he has no condi damage outside of his 30 in wilderness. He has 3 evades on short cd + tons of vigor and dodge rolls, he isnt a full evasion tank without a dagger but he is about 90% evasion tank 10% pet damage. Dont get me wrong, that build and variations are decent, but really just not my thing. I play a ranger to play that hunter who snipes with a bow. Sadly I cant do that, so Im just semi focusing on pve until next patch.
I highly doubt the op has only the 30 points in ws as cd. Sb+sword/torch is likely the best condition dmg setup we could use, and the linx is the best pet choice in this case. A power specced evasive bunker ranger has way more than 16k hp (i have almost 22k actually).
That said ye i’d like to play a sniper with bow as well. I think that’s what most ranger players want to play. It’s sad how we are “forced” to spend almost all our points in 2 trees.
Good vid but you are pretty much an evasion tank
16k hp. It’s not really a tank, more like an evasive condition build.
stop showing how OP ranger is, they’re gonna nerf us…
Not really op. Actually there are builds harder to counter, they are all quite similar tho.
Lol thats not OP anyone can make a Bunker build on any class and do that
Yes, but that’s not completely true. A ranger could spec bunker and mantain good dmg using his pet.
I’s say human.
Sylvari females look cool as rangers, sylvari males are too effeminate.
Asuras are ok but they don’t fit the role imo.
Norns…their lore is awesome and i really like them, sadly norn males look like giant freaks. Also most skill animations look funny on them, imagine a norn ranger using 1h sword skills…nah a giant norn jumping around evading enemy hits looks silly to me. Last but not least, they are big. That means smaller races have an advantage: harder to spot them, harder to counter their moves. Norn females look better than human ones tho.
Don’t be so harsh. Every game needs at least one class or build easy enough to play such that even clickers can do well with it.
Eheh so true.
@op: the day you will meet a decent player with thieves guild on cd you will quickly realize why so many ppl told you not to spec p/p. No offence m8, that’s just reality. I like p/p too, looks c00l idd, sadly it’s nothing more than that.
Oh and tbh i’m almost glad p/p sucks as it is, i don’t want thieves to roflstomp everyone spamming #3. They should rework the whole set, buffing pistol damage is not the solution.
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Ehm…melee pets have been improved a bit, not really fixed, arrows still get obstructed (they only increased arrows speed)…at least ye op strikes work fine now.
Anyway rangers are fine in small scale fights. I mean lots of things still need to be fixed/improved but i’m sure (well…almost) they are working on that. After all we all love jon peters, you know that jon don’t you?
Ah kitten my bad i forgot the op was looking for wvw only. Well ye with only 10 points in bm a full def spec is not the best setup. Lol i should defo read ops again before posting.
The problem with Soldiers is that it has 2 defensive stats. Going everything with Soldiers is somewhat overkill. Best to mix and match, and find where your own sweet spot is.
Is never an overkill. Mix high tough/vit with dodges and protection and it won’t be easy at all to kill you. Ofc you may ask “What’s the point? Your dmg is bad” wrong i have over 2k power in spvp and my pet hits hard, and with hard i mean HARD. Also even if your crit is low you can boost it with fury. Actually some ppl i played against even asked me if i was specced glasscannon…
You can troll way better imo. That’s not even decent.
Well ,
the rangermost rangersisare free kill(s) for thief
Fixed for ya.
Gl with the guardian btw.
Everyone can see thief’s do too much damage except players playing thiefs…mmm why is that?
Not even close, i play a ranger (commonly considered the worst class in trade wars 2).
Lol nice video, one of the best you have made.
anyone trying to use two bows in sPvP is bad.
Probably true.
Their is almost no way you can survive in the close quarters combat using a longbow on any of the maps.
That’s why melee weapons exist.
Shortbow reigns supreme in sPvP. If you want to use a longbow, go WvW with it.
Not really. It’s not like damage is the only thing a weapon needs to be decent.
Do u really think dolyak runes are the best choice for a bunker ranger? (rhetorical question)
I usually do not recommend full soldier’s equipment (pwr/tough/vit) because you sacrifice a ton of damage due to the lack of crits.
I usually do not recommend a non full-soldier’s equipment (pwr/tough/vit) because you sacrifice a ton of survivability due to the lack of vitality. Point of views.
Thats how you can tell they have no clue how to balance classes
when a Guardian (the Tankest profession in the kitten game!) gets 3 shotted…
The guardian is the tankIest class only if specced for that.
Thief damage is fine, that thief was squishy, even more than the op. Not saying the class is balanced, just the dmg is not the problem at all.
*CnD can’t be blocked (watch the 1v1 vs the pistol Thief and see how I am blocking with GS and the Thief gets his ability to trigger anyway. What other skill works like this? Does Hilt Bash activate even though someone blocked it? I don’t know, but it seems a bit odd.)
I gave the gs a try just cos i thought the block would have been cool vs cnd. It IS odd actually, but w/e.
*Shadow Refuge is out of place and spammed way to often to save teammates with no skill or dedicated healing/runes required. It should be a dedicated Healing Skill imo, not a utility.)
SR is one of the strongest skills in game. Love how thieves could get like 12 stacks of might while staying in sr. It’s actually way stronger than most elite skills.
Anyway while i don’t like your build much, really nice video.
currently level 60 need some advice on a good levelling build that can take me through to 80. Is there any PVE face melting builds out there? (have not played my ranger in a month or 2)
Traps are the way to go m8. Weapons are up to you really, i used mainly sword/torch, shortbow and gs. Longbow is also good for barrage. Entangle as elite.
Tank bit I get but what does BM GS mean ?
BM=beastmastery
GS=greatsword
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I was going to post a total rework of your build but then i realized i missed the “ranged” in the title eheh. Tbh i gave up with ranged builds simply cos melee is just better, but ye the shortbow is kinda needed in a ranged build. Overall it seems a decent build. 30 in ws is not a must have but is probably the best choice.
But i wanna be honest, don’t expect to roflstomp everyone (but u already know that don’t u).
How about reading forum rules before posting?
The ranger, it is the weakest class in the game. The rangers who say they’re so good, as I said before, they most likely didn’t try other classes.
I’ve played all classes. There’s no way someone could be decent in pvp without knowing every class in the game and how to counter them. That said the ranger might be weak in wvw, i don’t really know since i don’t play wvw, but it’s not weak at all in spvp if specced and played properly. And tbh i don’t understand how this would be much different in wvw (small scale i mean, zerg scale is not even worth considering).
Then i would agree rangers atm have really few options, and they are defo not the best class in game, but that’s true for most classes, not only rangers.
The devs should pay attention to this statement:
It should be GW2, not TP2, time to un-suck quest gold and drop rates.
It’s already TP2. They wanted to recreate a realistic economy in a game, and this was a bad idea in the first place. But hey they did an awesome job, economy in this game has become rotten just like real one.
Ofc some ppl spend real money on this game, good for them. I’m lucky enough to be rich irl but i won’t spend money on TP2, i somehow still enjoy the game anyway plus legendaries suck so it’s not like a legendary is a huge need.
Thief can do anything better than a ranger.
Rangers are “free kills” in WvWvW.My brother is always trying to convince me that they’re good, when he doesn’t have one. And I’ve been playing them for so long. They’re just trash. Free kills, regardless of the people saying how good they are and can kill anyone 1v1, they haven’t actually played someone who has some sort of decent skill. If they have, they are not talking about it. All rangers = free kill in WvWvW. Especially to a thief, warrior, elementalist, mesmer, necromancer, and guardian. Oh, and the engineers too.
To be fair, I’ve never lost to a ranger in a 1v1 setting, necromancer, or an engineer. (as a ranger) Then again, I’m sure they’re crappy.
So, i would roll a thief before ever looking at a ranger. Rangers are just made for bots. You see a ranger out in the PvE world, 9x out of 10, they’re a bot.
Dude 90% of rangers have no clue how to spec or how to play the class. Try playing some spvp and u will realize out of 100 rangers there is someone who has understood how the class works.
I lol so much when someone says ranger is easymode cos all you have to do is spam shortbow #1.
I actually prefer it this way. I mainly do pvp, and I like to spec my ranger pretty defensively. The way things are now allows me to still inflict decent dmg via the pet. I can prevent pets from dies with pet swapping anyway. I see this as a major advantage as a ranger compared to other profs. I can basically go full bunker and still deal decent damage for example with a jaguar.
Exactly. Looks like most ppl haven’t realized it yet. What the op has suggested imo would not benefit the class at all.
Ye i agree longbow should be reworked, at least the autoattack. But the weapon is far from useless. Hunter’s shot is actually very good (vuln and pet swift), the knockback can be really useful if u time it right. Sadly as it is now is not more than a good secondary weapon. The longbow is like a ranger icon, it deserves a boost.
If you want to play a dps spec, thief is the way to go.
Works fine for me…most of the times.
So, I am happy to report that in addition to the 100g I made two days ago, I piled on another 190g yesterday – bringing me up to 510g. I absolutely realize that there are hordes of players who have well more gold than this, so please don’t mistake this for chest-beating, I honestly only do this to let people know the magnitude of opportunities that are out there to be found.
Also, I would like to thank the several people, who have written to me in game, for their interest and well wishes. However, even if I was willing to give away my secrets, I don’t believe that anything I could share now would serve any purpose other than to encourage players to jump into a declining opportunity. This ship is sailing on this one, but there will undoubtedly be more short term niche markets in the future, where maybe it will be YOU who makes hundreds of gold.
Play well, and happy prospecting!
Sirgleno
Wow man gratz, you are amazing, i’m so jelly.
http://images47.fotki.com/v1397/photos/1/107577/402366/youwontheprize-vi.jpg
And I think you have a narrow view of what is considered ‘fun’.
It seems lots of ppl have a narrow view of “fun” then. But hey, it’s fine keep playing trade wars 2.
All of you are now doing mats and calculations while playing a casino game instead of being out there in the world and having fun.
This. Economy in this game sucks. And it’s getting worse and worse. I somehow still enjoy spvp (a bit repetitive and far from perfect but fun after all) but seriously i didn’t expect so much farming in pve. What annoys me the most is a good part of my friends left the game or are playing less and less.
it might come as a surprise to you, but some people actually derive fun out of doing maths and calculation.
So what? I love mathematics but i think a game should first of all be fun. I think you have a distorted view of mathematics.
Lw is fine now, tbh works for me pretty much always, i must be lucky.
I haven’t really noticed a difference in the longbow or shortbow…
am I the only one? longbow is still very unreliable and slow in my opinion.
The arrow speed increase is noticeable imo. The lb autoattack is slow ye but think about it as an utility weapon (sadly).
I really enjoyed the video. I knew it was good stuff as soon as i saw the sword/horn setup.
Some 1337 guyz will answer you to learn to play, to use ranged pets bla bla. In reality ye u can pay all the attention u want but sometimes u can’t prevent your pet from dying in aoe. That said experience is a good thing and with time you can learn to avoid most of your pet deaths. The devs said some aoe builds are bit over the top and they are working on it, hopefully this “work” includes our pets survivability as well.
Pet f2 skills are a bit unresponsive now, we have to live with it.
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Wait they did buff them, didn’t they? Lol
I love how it took them months to make a change (spirit proc rate) that in reality is pretty much useless.
Surely you jest.
You don’t need to stay in the field for it to heal you. Besides the fact that allies can blast it for heals, can step on it for condition removal and leap through it to heal themselves, it’s CD and heal+regen makes it EASILY the best heal a ranger has. In any scenario. Period.
All true, but in reality in hot join spvp i prefer troll unguent. Hot join as it is now is a zergfest so mobility is a must, also in hot join half of the ppl don’t even know how the skill works or what a combo field is, so it will hardly help others.
Sword is actually one of the Ranger’s best weapons.
It’s our best weapon
Fjandi would you care to actually explain why this wouldnt help?
As i said, “good” thieves rarely spam the same skill more than twice, and “skill spamming” is not a problem anyway. If a thief wanna waste all his ini spamming hs is fine, no ini left for c&d.
stealth only really hurts the glass cannon baddies
pro bunkers/glass cannons have no issue with it
the game is balanced
Sigh do u realize ranger pets cannot dodge c&d? It’s not like thieves kill bunkers easily, quite the opposite, the point is a good thief can be harder to kill than a bunker. Seems to me you are trying to defend something saying it’s balanced, while u clearly know it is not.
This won’t fix anything dude. Mug dmg is ok imo. I agree unload should be buffed. Pistol whip nerf was totally unneded, same for c&d dmg nerf. Lol @ -1 ini cost for c&d. Are you serious?
The same skill is hardly spammed consecutively more than twice. Spamming hs is just a bad idea. The problem is stealth, c&d should be reworked somehow, but they can’t remove it or change it completely cos builds like p/d would become totally useless.
Though I’m still waiting for someone to post up vids of a class OTHER THAN:
Thief
Ele
MesmerGoing 1v5+ and winning, spikes and all.
You do know this is not gonna happen, don’t you? (i know u were hironic there)
Wait wait hb warrior op? For real?
Yeah cause they one burst almost anyone. Thiefs can’t even do that. I mainly play with a ranger so no I’m not showing favoritism.
Sry m8 i’m a ranger as well and i don’t see the problem with hb glass warriors. Thieves dmg is fine as well. Stealth has to be fixed tho.
Stealth in this game is broken. It allows far too much control of the fight. Mesmers and thieves can reset and escape better then any other class. Broken mechanic is broken.
This can’t be true…i mean all thieves keep saying stealth is perfectly fine, i can’t believe they are all lying…oh wait.
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Wait wait hb warrior op? For real?
I think it’s a pretty even fight. Depends a lot on their specs ofc, but ye i have to admit good mesmers are not the easiest targets for a ranger.
Rangers for the most part only put 10 points in Beastmaster, if that.
Lol so true.