Guild Wars 2

1) all necromancer traits + regen heal your actual HP while in DS . without outside direct healing for start

2) faster cast/channel animations: dagger#2, axe#2, focus#5, focus#4, dagger#3, axe#3 in order

3) nigtmare rune nerf , revert of lost dumbfire bleeds

I had thoughts, that the maximum the devs can come up with a number tweak. Our animation fluidity, siphons/healing revamp and other big changes will have to wait min. anoyher 6 months.

So a faster projectile on #1 is what i would recommend.

Im not very positive now.
The fluid chanels on axe#2, Dagger#2 and more, were such a hype, but theres no way they can actualy make them now in 5 days

Same for the siphon, spite13 trait, healing mechanic.

So the only thing we could squeeze out of them is a small number tweak. And i cant think of a useful one,
Beside new spite13 GM- 5% to 8% – like thief.

The biggest problem is not that you lose and more or less perma faceplaming.

Its the fact that your rating goes down to hell , and as such, you will be playing with the same badies tomorrow at normal time.

Stick to hotjoin or maybe even pveland.

Also why does something as tanky as a hambot (enough dmg to wear soldier, healsig, immunitynstances) ,

Need weakness?

See you next april.

Idk… Im 300 gems short, already have SAB for green shiny dagger, and i was saving for the comander tag + this can get fixed anytime…

But ty nevertheless, ill get it if ill be blessed with a precursor

Well bomb? Nerfed
Sigil, trait procs? Nerfed
Necro might? Lol , still havent reroled warr?
20s duration nerf? Np, u die 10

Sad jokes aside its a nerf, but its good for game. Less oneshot procs, but same constant dmg, which will be easier to balance in future.
Though at best well se a 150s CD, only warior has such attention that they actualy modify skills on a elite.

My biggest dissapointment is no cast/channel time reduction on axe#2 and dagger#2

Was realy hoping for non sluggish combat

coglin.1867:

Poplolita.2638:

Also, no viable build has “35% up time on protection”. Don’t mislead people with misinformations.

Are you disputing my facts? Seems your making accusations with no context.

A “well” build with Ritual of Protection is not viable?

Yes, it is not viable. Stop trolling coglin

I got top100 EU soloQ just with it once. Its is absolutely nothing in comparison to the meta builds.

Edit: I see you command WvW.
Thats not balance , its numbers vs numbers. And if equal, its
40% guard +
40% warior +
15% wellbomb necro +
2x mesmer veilbots
That is a joke of balance and as such wvw is not at focus. Please dont use your wvw knowledge in any balance discusions, unless you say its in wvw.

bhawb you made my day.

will you be making a podcast? or maybe after actual patch?

@Blackbeard,

me flashing a 06206 condi build, waiting for the stars to allign- if i have LF at all in that build , while a hambots fire field + HealingSignet alone makes +500hp/-500hp difference….

Not to mention the loss of Soul marks/fear duration , if youre flashing you still need to cast ds#2 , and the build has MASSIVE counterplay by just doing damage to nero while hes cant use DS.

Theres basicaly nothing beside the DS-stomp to badies in WvW. the cast/chanel reductions were also underwhelming, wheres axe#2, dagger#2,3, focus #4,5 ?

Necro axe#2 didnt get faster, just 10% more dmg , that is always canceled by a sidestep or dodge through your character.
Which also leaves u with 2% LF for next 10 sec

The daggers#2 main problem is the cast at start, the cannel is almost not terrible. I use it, but rarely and in clunky ways.

As for reason, there is none.

HealingSoooShavedSignet should be nr#2 and idk how you forgot guardian

CratZ.6270:

I find it offending that they tried to hide its useless active healing in the demo by using dagger #2 while it was on.

I did notice it, but yeah clever

Did they also use a prec/healing amulet with all siphon traits?

Also no hope from what i saw today.

Even it they buff them 3-4x which they should, you still wont hit anyone when youre CCed.

Regen , outsource healing , siphons (TRAIT) , condition to heal (TRAIT) .

All of this works against your proffesion mechanic.

Like they didnt even jokingly, cz theyre still both useless, buff the 5%→8% new spite GM trait, like they did on thief.

For today im out of hope, seems like ill be spamming condies or power#1, and hoping enemy is stupid and dies faster than I do.

Actualy nothing.

Thats my 2 words, reason why:

1) biggest buff is warr/thief nerf

2) 2nd biggest buff is a Quality of Life change for DS stomp. nothing balance wise, but great nevertheless

3) NO NIGHTMARE ROONS NERF. pls remove, so theres an actual foundation to balance necros on.

4) AXE #1,2,3 +DAGER #1,2,3 + FOCUS #5, (4?)……. only axe#1 gets smaller cast time , all other dmg is still easy avoidable

5) Sustain….. no comment , as theres nothing to talk about

6) S.Armor …. Why not make it F2 if u want everything on this? whats the point of walk then? too much LF 1v1 ? still dying in teamfight? no changes here

So yeah, there you have it. Basically nothing. Seems like “were in good spot” like guardian.

I laugh everytime someone “discovers” this limitited functionality that makes it almost not terrible,

only to realize its still total garbage after 2 seconds.

Its good that you make a teaching video.
Its just the trait is simply so bad, that theres no excuse for not warning the students about the end result

Edit: just saw it when i clicked back, please change tittle.

Most run GS+staff

Dodge after he raises his sword, most use his at start to open with GS#4 phantasm.
Dodge if you can when he throws his sword at you GS#2, as this makes a clone and gives might + vuln

CC him to force him into staff. GS autos hurt a lot and the gs cones stack bleed. Staff auto doesnt hurt as much, but the clones stack lots of bleeds if theres many and now theyll bounce
Exit out of the chaos storm ASAP, try to dodge through the clones, when he shatters.

Hes now back to GS, stay on him as GS only has #5 knockback for defense. Dont let him get at range as it deals more dmg and him being in safety.

In general, they always dodge after a shatter to create a clone or two. if you have aoe at that time use it , it puts them out of ammo. Also when they stealth, and dodge, a clone will appear and thats where they were at last.
Avoid spamming skills when they daze combo you, it can activate hakting strike mutliple times and deal dmg

Its why strenght runes are still stppidly OP.

Power even scales better than condi damage, the 4th bonus should be 100% removed.
Almost no runeset has such a gratis effect , and power + might duration is already wombo combo

Why is teamQ 250-1000 almost exclusively soloers?

Hmmmmmmmmm, +5 silver even though you lose more cz u face premades ? Yea thats must be it

If youre not top1000, play any AI build.

If youre top1000, switch to any build with healing signet.

Agreed, necro needs sustain aka healing hp back capabilities. And the concept of stay in a fight has basicaly perma stability written over it my wish list for tomorrow:

1) removal of nigjtmare roons. No class should be balanced around a 90s one trick pony

2) optional: removal or remodel of fear on CC trait into the failed DM 15trait minor

3) more and mostly RELIABLE life force on scepter , staff

4) power necro cast times reductions , confirmed, hope its enough

5) HEALING but with TRAITS. Aka flat buff siphones by A FEW TIMES + spite XIII heals in DS + regen and outsource healing by %

6) 2x good stunbreak utilities , as CB seems to remain must ,even on non wells power necros

7) nerf to warriors, theyre designed weak to condies, were designed attrition. Currently, nothing is true. Hope the adrenaline nerfs will be enough.
Zerker stance 100% immunity and duration , healsig , earth l2p dodge bow f1

Josh Davis,
I know theres stuff you dont know or cant say.

But if you can dispose of or just hint against rumor that, as time passes the company invests less into servers than at launch- altough it seems to be doing good with many new players joining every sale and feature patch, it would be very nice to hear.

I mean, the skill lag basicaly didnt exist in the first year

kellcam, officialy they fixed DS fall damage with the DS absorbing oneshots. They left spectral walk cz its, harder to pul off, has abysmall effect , and is actualy a fun mechanic.

I play both nec and thief on 2nd, and i will gladly bow to any necro that manages to escape me. thiefs no comment..

Now personaly, youre a thief complaining about being outplayed in WVW . please reconsider closing this thread and unnistalling, you wont be missed.

Bhawb, is nemesis realy that far off in this one? i mean:

1) he makes builds for pugs. most poeple seeking builds are beginers/mediumer at a class and as such I had no problem recomending a new friend his channel

2) he is against exploits , skip or wall shenanigans. he plays it right

3) The diferences , beside trash mobs without a cleave , were very small. Like 10% min/max. To me, thats as close as balance can go + i cant think of some1 complaining it 44s instead of 40s to kill a boss

4) He said that most others used very “ideal” situations. I know wariors scaling goes through the roof, but what he showed seemed like the most common, normal conditions youd expect

I dont play much PvE , i get it that spojs double dagger mainhand deals more dps. But if his easier to play, ranged dps comes close to 90% dps of that full melee build, then i would recommend nemesis build to 90% of the community.

Guys, stop complaining.

Remember, that the system needs to find 10x poeple FIRST , THEN it shuffles them into 2 equal worthy teams.

1) the limit would increase que times , probably biggest no
2) How should it work?

• trade better teammate for lower enemy , but different class?
• How much is having a bad teammate worth, over lets say 2nd thief ?
• Should this be calculated before? QUEEEEEEE…..

you get the point. +its a nice change here and then to have a funny matchup

Flumek.9043:

206.127.159.230;0 5-10sec spikes , about every 3min

Again, just bigger, like 10secs and at least 5x times this game.

And its not just me basicaly whole my and enemy team had spikes at same time…..we got stilness though ….

206.127.159.230;0 5-10sec spikes , about every 3min

I honestly dont know if i ever heard that rework idea, from any of the terrible spite 25 GM minor -siphoned power.

The 3x might for 10s , on entering DS sounds probably the best fix to it so far. ill copy and advertize the idea

Also, could the “map drawings and red circles button” aka SHIFT , become biindable to something else?

I already have shift binded to something, and I so have to blow a dodge everytime i want to ping or draw on map.

the 3rd place was xerrexs team Enhanced Gaming, theyre good. but they advanced cz TCG/TM had 2 players missing , the power necro comp totaly lost in semi finals, then they won 3rd place when monks played on their alts and lolz builds.

on NA the team with necro won. the necro is noscoc and is runing full fear (nightmare, reap. prot) carrion
Whats interesting is they won against a double warrior comp. now the NA = EU soloq stuff aside, they had 2 engies and zoose definetly the mvp on fresh air burst ele For me on eu pretty weird stuff (no thief in finals, 1 dps guard, no bunker guard) so it was pretty entertaining

Warlord of Chaos.7845:

So on average on a full glass target, mind stab does about 2k. With the dps buff, it will now hit for 2.4-2.5k. Wow, so much more damage.

a) the bigger thing is the aoe increase. before u needed some cc, now its basicaly unmissable

b) because its easier to hit = moar boon strip for mesmer (thief + mes combo > necro boonstrip and works good together)

c) greatsword on mesmer is already good

d) edit: i hope wont mind it too much, but basicaly hellseth mesmer build got immense buff

Healing signet…. not nerf…. but balance….. as its still stupidly everpowered……all the active heals are around 300hps , not to mention how bad the passives are (which is good, except warrior seems to hard to play to actualy cover their heal with a CC). im speechless there isnt a 8% or rather 80% nerf this patch.

Zerker stance… a bit too long , 6s base, 8s traited… lets be honest everyone runs at least 2x stance.

Cleansing ire + bow …. dont know how to fix it so the ground learns to dodge

bow fire field… hopefuly gets small due to less adrenaline now, should be fine

Hammer…. 4x CC skils is enough, idk why tanky warrior would need weaknes on #2, trade it for a vuln.

Thats my take, the first two points are the only real part that needs attention. warior is my 3rd , as i dont enjoy it anymore because its boring and mathemticaly proven to be broken (currently, still..)

Pros:
no bunker guard
Easier to form a new group and maybe shorter teamfights

Cons:
chiz and class stacking
No oh look at moments
Boring to play against
Warrior, still too stronk
Healin signet and zerker stance, passives stronger than most actives
Boring to watch , as in teamfights spikes are hard to pull off, while on the other node its just “meh the tankier guy won after a minute”
Mini decap engie, you lose points fast but retaking takes hours
Class stacking, makes other classes left out and not viable

moi.4398:

It’s so sad torment was a condition made for us necro for punish people to run away and our best access to it is ……………….. Sigil of torment , while mesmers and p/d thieves keep laughing at us .

Torment was a fail. It was meant for slow power necros to punish fast moving enemys (phase blink mesmer, old RTL ele, thief ).
It seems the game couldnt handle track of units traveled or i would just be too complicated. Imagine a shadowstep up ledge or portal 1-shoting. So they made it work simple. The result is as we all know, just another cover condi, which also scales for condi builds.

Currently, theyre giving power builds a decrease in cast and chanel times. Granted, power necro will mostly lack behind condi, i think it will be pretty close now.
If they increase survival , a small buff to condi (like bleeds unnerf and adding torment, especialy with dumbfire out of the way) would seem ideal state.

granted, milions will come, but i was 1st

Edit2:
Listen to the mesmer king
http://www.twitch.tv/thelordhelseth/c/4965699
Edit:
I fortunately dont play against PUs very often and still they always lose points. But i am very scared of such stuff ever becoming remotely viable. I also despise the idea, that someone may be giving their best in lets say top80-90% soloq, but losing to such lame builds.
I wish mesmers a working scepter weapon set, and a removed Prismatic Understanding trait.

whered you come with qickening thirst? traveler is pretty much best rune for us , even arguably better for 1v1 as the nightmare pony is a 1x shot 90s CD, while traveler makes kiting possible

celestial is ok , a must for eles, nice on engie.

If deleting warior was a feature, id buy whole game again.

Yup. Combine bloodthirst and ditch vampiric precision and balance it out from there. And still it wont work for zerker or carrion, no toughnes no EHP, so what stays is rabid amulet only. maybe some knights for soloq

Also i think all the stuff we can get ourselves should not work against each other. Parasitic contagion, all siphon procs, possibly even regen should all work in DS.

Now i would exclude blood well, as its kinda outsidish , and healing from allies, that is would heal with decreased %. And then only a supportive trait like blood GM would allow us to take condis from alies but they can heal us in return.

Thank you grouch

Shadowsteps > leaps > target ports > DS+ cast time +proj. travel time + line of sight + target hit , in range

The cooldown is ok though

I think they designed burning as a passive dmg boost to power builds. Hence the high base and stacking only in duration. Altough engies relly solely on burning and cover condies

Anyway, the biggest problem is still hambot/axebot. Not just 20x might stacking , but the everpulsing fire field the size of legacy……Hoping the adrenaline nerfs will lower the uptime emough

We will not criticize or suggest the impossible to be done in a few days.

What it would mean to us:

• nobody was left out
• sparks of hope for tournaments , which means more signups
• worst case a number tweak, due to overwhelming response

Please add a simple text , if its tuesday, a week of time sounds fairer, than 2 workdays currently. Thanks for speedier changes nevertheless

+2 for text changes for guard and necro, already from me and another from the thread that announced mesmer and ele this week

I think thered be many more teams formed and signed up, if the events wouldnt overlap. Its good that stuff is happening and at a faster pace, ty grouch

perko.8309:

Flumek.9043:

Please use propper grammar and rename title to hambot.

Same for any other warior build.

Youre welcome

How’s that glass house comin’ along?

arguments against my non-native english – 1
arguments of warriors not being OP and stupidly boring – 0

@coglin
Bhawb is a cool guy who does a lot of work for the community. So forget the ideas he or anyone is promoting their favourites.
There hasnt been a class tier list thread in a while, so i cant direct you anywhere, but the tiers exist even if you live under a rock.

@devs
Could you at least give the crucial changes for the last 2 proffesions in text format? Maybe this friday after regular skill bar?

It would be a nice way to partialy dig yourselves out of the “hey were listening to your feedback on this changes” lie

Please use propper grammar and rename title to hambot.

Same for any other warior build.

Youre welcome

OK, lets heal through condis (and maybe place it another traitline or combine and make it work with sanctuary, but ok )

How should you heal through offense, if youre CCed the whole time? Or better – 100% immunity!