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Edit: The let go of right click works. the toggle immediately shows up.

1) Arenanet cant math.

2) Necro so bad, theyre afraid to show stuff on preview and rather just backstab on patch day.

3) I think they were afraid of this leading to a thread about necro heals….. whcih we all know the state….

Its a Earth l2p (dodge) issue.

Given changes the size of a planet are needed, warrior will be balanced in about 10.000.000 years

So you miss a F1 , but then the trait 102% pvp builds use , STILL gives you 1 bar back ?

Havent checked buffed signet yet..

Anyway,
gg CasualCharriorNet

25% nerf to well of blood

20% buff to signet of bad

How many infractions do you get for cursing in caps?

If someone has the time, please find the great picture of a anet dev (hugh norfolk nightmare) explaining to a 3000h pvp guy in homeless clothes he cant get more rewards, while a 1000h pve queen sits on her game of thrones chair with legendaries

Its pve only right?

Kitt.2567:

GOSU.9574:

I think OP is saying Warrior has to much mobility and should be nerfed.

:)

lol actually i say this cuz swiftness has nothing to do with balance itself.haha a bit troll posting actually

The swiftnes was added infirst year when warrior strugled with being kited by cripples. Now with addition of everlasting 100% immunities to the designed weakness of class, the swiftness just feels unnecessary.

They could remove it, and warrior would still be a disgrace.
The fact that youre asking for protection buff, on the broken stances whivh everyone takes 3x of them, is just ignorant greed.

Acrisor.8097:

I am looking forward to an warrior build that can DPS, Heal and CC, everything at the same time (to multiple targets if possible).

you forgot stomp/rezz , the 4th trinity all warrbots have.

p/p thief , but no meantion of power necro. i think this is final proof

Exactly.

-Life force resets/refils to 50% when out of combat.

It will lower min/max scenarios , and for balance the value can just be changed.

like we all exploit to 20% at start of EVERY MATCH. Does it make necro OP ? LOL NO, its basicaly a must to even have a miniature chance, zero lifeforce is just plain unfair.

What needs nerf?
Nightmare runes – long CD onetrick pony, not controlled by player
Trait reaper prot (maybe) – more reliable and protects necro from 1 cc
Zerker stance – the duration is broken and it should be -90% not full immunity

What needs buff?
Necro dealing with CC

There, for 1000th time written the same stuff. We necros mostly dont like the nightmare runes either we arent stupid.
But we need quite a few defensive buffs. Also i find it strange, that the more 1v1 focused NA cant deal with this, while every top500 EU player beats this with a team build

True.

Even though im a pretty unsatisfied necro who complains a lot, i will say: Thank you

-for new and faster moving PVP stuff

-for faster balance and feature pack

-for listening to community
(it may be weak, wont change and miles from what we asked) But it is aimed in the exactly right direction.

Keep it up

Edit:
I didnt mean in a mean way, im just highly realistic. We got more in the last 6 months, than we did in the first year and a half. im very happy about that and excited for whats to come

TL,DR:

- Dont base any balance assumptions from wvw
- necro isnt in the role its designed to, and even in the undesigned role its still bad to others
- Sry if youre an engie, and get hard countered by a necro condi transfer. dont forget you can switch to celestial rifle and just CC us to death

now, ill try to explain what sustain is and why necros want it.

We want it because thats the class description and grand design.
We dont burst , retreat, burst to finish like thieves. We stay in the fight, and the LONGER the fight goes, the weaker enemy gets, the stronger we get, meaning we win at the long end. this is the design by which poeple chose necro at start

The devs said, they nerfed our ds#2 aoe teleport and they wont give us back the mobility.
For concrete balance, this means, necro will get focused, CC, cant move away, dies. Congratz, you just killed a necro fast. But now, if you dont, a necro should wear you down if you havea long fight right?
BEEEEEP!!
Here is the problem. WE DONT HAVE SUSTAIN FOR LONG FIGHT.

Warior with stupidity signet + perma fire field
Celestial ele decent dmg with great healing
Even dps guard in 1v1 has great sustained healing from meditations

Necro is supposed to die fast to focus but not die slow. But out healing is very, very bad.
So only thing we can do is go full glass or full “condi overload” and pray we kill enemy fast, cz were gonna lose on the long run.

Would we trade damage for survival?
Yes, just picking defensive traits would already put us away from our offensive ones. Also, enemy cleansing and healing is soo high in game, that our dmg isnt even that great currently.

Would we be unkillable?
Even if the small buffs / bugfixes were asking for, would make us a 1v1 GOD , we would still get wrecked by a CC spike in a teamfight…. (unlike warior for example -.- )

vincecontix.1264 , ill bite.

wvw IS unbalanced.
40% warrior , 40% guard, 10% ele , 10% necro , 1% mesmer, 0% thief , 0% ranger…. Thats how a ideal zerg is. The devs leave it in that state because its meant as a giant chaotic sandbox.
Then theres small scale – roaming…. stealth, nike warior and all other stuff. Again, they dont want to give us game mode without captures nodes in pvp, because they tested and wvw clearly shows what unbalanced junk comes out.
Last,
theres difference in numbers (lol fairness) and WvW AVERAGE player is pretty bad ( 30 poeple can have 15 underleves and PvE guys, which basicaly means 50% are idiots… and if not, you have all players in range from: 1 bad, 1 meh, 1 average, 1 ok, 1 good player…. PVP if youre ranked you “should” play 5 good vs. 5 good.)

Now, with above points, you can hopefully see,
that ANY class can do a “wow look at this” video in wvw. And video shows many new & bad players.
Like on start of game poeple looked more at wvw, now that most realized how bad enemys there are, its lost all credibility. U can kill 1v5x poeple, but noone knows their names and how good they are. If u show a clip from my tourny, my rank is 95%, that means that my enemys were all top 90-100% players for example.

This wasnt necro vs buffs , it was improving your general knowledge of how wvw works.

zapv.8051:

SOV actually fits necros perfectly, it just has terrible numbers/icd. Siphons fit necros perfectly, but the numbers simply aren’t good enough to make it viable.

Id argue that the thief signet is closer as it gives health when u attack aka siphon. getting a beating and shoution roar with moar strength sounds like a warior…. so yea, approve sending signet of bad to warriors

Wyrden.4713:

too stronk doubling in a 1v1

I know :$ just thinking that for changes to happen ,they need to be easy

Yes / no?

How would you like it to work 1v1 ?

Id personaly trade any CD increase, for the target also counting as a target (yo dawg)… Basicaly you double condies on target and then hit 4x others

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Steal – it’s “useless” untraited and “underpowered” when traited.

But it’s my favorite skill.

Steal is medium without traits, like most other mechanics.

With traits, mostly the stabilty interupt, are defenition of everpowered.

Id be for getting rid of daze.

The CD reduction is huge and gives u more uptime onthe good stuff. Also d/p needs it for burst and gap closer, while it has a greap interupt on #4

S/d loses a the 1-2s of free damage and has to backstab for interupt

Id even give d/p a reduction of 4 to 3 initiative on pistol#3 to compensate

Tourney…. use it, play to win.

Hotjoin…. dont use if youre against a rare decent opponent and want to learn. use the other 95% of time when you dont give a smallcat

wvw roaming…. use it if the enemy is running a cheez build, dont use it if enemy is worthy of duel

duel server…. yes, game is not balanced around 1v1 offpoint. But duels with massive elites are boring. The rules are meant to replicate a realistic scenario

-no elites over 90s /120s
- or you can use 180s only 1/3 of matches , lower than 90s can be used every match

Adrenaline = life force

Armor = -400 armor

Stability = ping pong ball

Healing signet = cant imagine anything so disgusting

DeceiverX.8361:

oxtred.7658:

Meta is about boon spam
Thieves have a way to steal boons
>nerf thieves

Well, it should be more like:
Meta is about boon spam
Thieves have a way to steal boons
>nerf the boon spam meta

^
Hope my little analysis makes sense, can’t be bother with a long wall of text.

One of the most intellectual responses I’ve seen in a while on these boards regarding balance and design. +1’ed.

I dissagree.

In numbers, they dont take many. They just have a broken 20s CD STABILITY interupt.

Meanwhile, on the anti-boon side, corrupt boon which prioritizes stability LAST, gets a cast increase

So its
Boon spam meta
Nerfed boon corrupt already
Nerf boon spam meta
Nerf broken part of thief

Not meant offensive, but some boon priority lists are simply unfair.

Id say wait till patch, test the axe/warhorn swiftness upkeep (replacing staff but its looking weak ) and potential S.Walk in your build.

If no, take traveler/speed runes, the boost without clicking anything and out of combat is amzing lazymode, i often rather run dungeons in my celestial traveler set than switch to zerker and keep clicking warhorn.

If you want to troll, at least find a good and credible video

You used to get 1,6x or 5x bars of adrenaline with the overbrokenlong zerker stance. The duration or immunity isnt touched, you will only get 3x adrenaline bars gratis while in godmode.
A nerf worth crying.

Side note, you just won the node. And you will win it again, just cz youre warrior.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

ArrDee.2573:

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

Yes the guaranteed 3 condis removed every 8 seconds giant aoe that envelops more than the entire point that applies burning and does the same damage as an Eviscerate throughout the entire duration and is a catalyst for insane might stacks! It’s fine!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

the 3 conditions removed every 7 – 10 seconds, is only “guaranteed” provided if the warrior is able to generate 30 strikes of adrenaline within 7 – 10 seconds, other wise, it is not.

also, the activation of combustive shot may be interrupted, causing the skill not to activate at all, and enter a 7 – 10 seconds recharge time.

the area of effect for combustive shot is only large, provided if full 30 strikes of adrenaline is achieved.

the burning condition can be very easily removed. and avoidable by not standing in the fire field.

the damage has been reduced in the past, and may deal damage similar to a level 2 Eviscerate provided if they stand in the fire field for the entire duration.

before you continue to complain about a perfectly balanced skill, would you kindly please look at “how balanced” the engineer profession is yourself?

thank you.

Which always happens.

LOL. never hapens and mostly stability/blind/CC cover….. 7 seconds? i regurarly go out for dinner only find my warrior at half hp

Which always happens.

NOPE. perma pulse + physicaly impossible

Oh, its only 1x unavoidable eviscerate. i think it needs a small buff

Engineer has a condispam and a celestial megatank build. both diseases can be prevented even in further stages, compared to warrior cancer.

youre welcome

Yes true.
15…..

Im pretty sure only the stomp precast is a question.

Any weapon cast should be interupted on DS, were not ele attunements. It would even more of a slow cast and pray machine, if youd be stuck chaneling your staff auto for another 1,3s before actualy starting to cast 1,2,4, or 5.

Also pretty sure DS + ice bow wont work

i tryed axe over staff this week, giving me a 2nd damaging weapon set to open, while getting a bit more LF and not needing soul marks trait.

It works in hotjoin.

Its still terrible in any level of tpvp.

Edit:
I see it great in wvw zergs, and also good for wvw roamint. though i must say its more wvw roamers are dodging less than needing the open field range.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Sarrs.4831:

errr

i’m an amateur at math, so forgive me for my inept ministrations, but

surely if you get an equal amount, or more health than you lost, you would become indestructible?

i mean, healing signet DOES exist, but that seems like it might be a bit too powerful

I think you’re missing the point. That’s for normal healing skills. This is not a normal healing skill. You ONLY heal if you take damage from enemies. So if you want to be healed, you have to make sure you get hit. And if the return from that is less health than the damage you are taking, then it’s not a heal.

Most #6 skill signets require something to heal. they should be worse since they are easymode passives, and signet of bad wont fix necro problems, as we have a perfectly fine working #6.

On side note, warior healing signet is actually an elite.

as it stands, DS is a transform, not a 3rd weapon set. it got its #5 skill only after being moved down to weapon slots in the UI and it doesnt trigger weapon swap signets.

Instant transforms, like mist form, small engie, plague form, can only be pre-cast. You cant interact, but somehow the instant transform didnt break the chanel

Lich has cast time, and so DS was actualy only transform that did this. If it will break the chanel and only allow to restart the animation once in DS is something we there fore cant know.

as engie, you may feel hate towards necros, as condi necro counters engie with transfers. even with thats, condi engie and especialy celestial rifle engie are better in pvp.

What u showed was a zerg vs zerg scenariom with power necros.
The magic recipe is
40% guard
40% warior
10% ele
10% necro

So with wvw being as unbalanced as it is, and power necro getting the lich nerf and no major improvemnts, the answer to your title is mostly no.

Brigg.6189:

Wolf.5816:

Brigg.6189:

I would trade it for necro staff #4.

Wait till you compare Necromancers Dark Pact with Warriors Pin Down.

It’s these little things that make you laugh till you cry.

Don’t stop there, you could compare signet of spite to the warrior condi utility… oh wait there’s not one.

You can’t compare class skills in a vacuum. It’s just not that simple.

u mean the shorter CD full condi cleanse signet , or the regular broken immunity stance?
Oh, u mean offensive? well u get stupid pressure just from weapons, so you can take 3x defensive utiltys necs need 1-2x offensive just to win a 1v1
Youre right, u realy shouldnt compare stuff

Nope. A copy of spectral armor 50% hp trait, giving necros even less control and bigger min/max life force scenarios.

Also, all 25% triggers are useless. 50% can do if its like stability on eles, but me going under 25% should not be a general balancing tactic.

I take it back, i mostly thought it was connected to the current lags or losing target.

They could improve their audio a bit, but like they said, its better to spend time actualy working instead of putting make up on.

I dare you, name me without cheating or stuttering, every

-trait, weapon, utility skill
- name, effect, cooldown
- potential hidden game mechanic, like projectile, pbaoe, since that was also talked about
- for every class

End result?
Dont expect stuff a no lifer cant do from a game developer whos a normal person. Also #believeinkarl actualy is one the better and most knowledgeable ones

I havent seriously used it in over a year, but hands down its gotta be

Epidemic.

Wish it got a longer CD in exchange for necros getting enough defense to able to run it. And maybe not being useless in 1v1.

There is no steal bug.

everyone is having massive lag spikes and dcs. theyre internet magic wires are probaby still getting repaired and also new feetcha pach brings more new players and more new bugs.
Hopefuly it gets sorted out till the glory tournament.

Flumek.9043:

206.127.159.230;0 5-10sec spikes , about every 3min

Every. game. hotjoin. teamq. at least 3x times + 1x disconnect.

Close games are the thrill we all play for.
Win/lose doesnt matter. Youll play at least 3 more games after.

Games where 1 guy gets dc, or when you clearly see your teammates are idiots from the start, you hardcarry whole game, and they still manage to lose a 450-350 lead…
That is for me NOT a close game , as I would not be jumping of joy if we won. Bad teammates are always a sigh

check helseths kiting video on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkkgL1cPJYM

so you see a dogejump is a further jump. Its also not slowed by combat speed, meaning its always same distance.

1) like marvin said, wining a 1v1 with a selfish 1v1 build is easy.
winning a 1v1 with a “team-useful” build , in time, on point, knowing where to move next, is far harder.

2) Again, the point of above conquest mechanics.
You can lose every single 1v1, but if you have map awarness, you will decap, steal an objective, prevent a decap, help finish/stomp the cruical target in teamfight…. even if you can just 1v2 for long enough time, youre a worthy player and asset to your team

3) Amulets vs higher stats
amulets force u to make decisions. The higher and customizable stat pool, can cover too many weakneses, mainly always going for just bit of toughness
And then theres food…

4) PvE bad players vs Matchmaking , lower average
im not saying anything about the top WvW roamers. its just that from 100 poeple, theres 10 good ones, some average and some badies straight from PvE. This means your build meant to fight the average enemy.
In Tpvp , youl always be playing against the top 10% good ones.

Example:
-In Tpvp, my ranking puts me against top 90-100% of all pvp players
-In hotjoin, you can face random between 0-100%

5) PvP = more action
in pvp i fight every 30s, often not even getting out of combat when walking between points. In wvw you walk for 5min, kill 1 pve noob, then walk again. you get slower fighting experience

6) WvW popularity
theres quite a bit of players, actual 30+ man guilds playing wvw. Were sometimes jelaous of the higher playerbase and want them to join the dark side

Hope it helps, the important part was points 1&2:
-a pvp player can fight, with a team build, alone or 5v5, on node, with time limit, be aware of 5 enemy positions on map, enemy classes a.k.a. which fights to pick, special objective
-a wvw roamer can fight, most only with a safe 1v1 build

If youre undecisive (and mostly lazy ) you can start making celestial – all stat combo.

Youll buy quartz crystals, and take them to a “place of power” to make charged quartz. Limit is 1x per day, 5x and you can craft a armor/weapon. The trinkets are only ascended from laureals (dailies)

The good thing about is, you can try a bit of everything. Its about 60% of maximum, on all fronts

Max dps? Take offensive traits and skills and if u like it and dont die, go for more dmg gear then
Support? Trait wells and you can give nice protection, 400 healing per sec, condi remove, if youre with ba dgroup and others are just dying whole time
WvW zerg? Again trait for well, just diferently. Yoill have some dmg and survival
WvW roaming? I do it but yoll need to be creative and know necro to squezze out everything
Condi dmg? Well here you need real condi gear, but condies are in bad spot in PvE
Lazy factor? You dont need to change gear, just traits

Ha? :/

Was kinda counting on traveler being enough, considering theyre kinda the best for power and for condi

Xaragon.3520:

1) all necromancer traits + regen heal your actual HP while in DS . without outside direct healing for start
2) faster cast/channel animations: dagger#2, axe#2, focus#5, focus#4, dagger#3, axe#3 in order

Flumek posted this in the 3 changes you would make to necro, i think he is spot on.

I copyed nr1 from bhawb, and i think its one we all agree upon.
Its the basic of not being punished for using your own traits/mechanic.
Example: warior cleansing ire + burst mastery combo got fix very fast as it came out

For the adventurous devs,
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Fixing-Necromancer-3-Changes-You-Would-Make/first#post4353593

ehm queston to anyone who actualy knows damage math.

before it was 4000power * 1000 something #1skill
now it will be 2000 power (zerker) * 2000 something #1 skill

This wont have any effect on dmg right? like in wvw, you could crit a squishy for 9k , while mostly it was 4,5k , 3k on heavy defense targets.
Im asking the dmg wont be any higher on high toughness targets because of the higher skill coeficient?

The tourny signups close this friday. Grouch already axplained that things are going at a fast pace, which i find great from arenanet.

They changed numbers and added a random from 5 instead of random 3 boons for mesmer.

Im hoping, but i just cant see them remodeling 2-4,5x animations for our weapons to be faster, in a week.

A good fast thing would be nightmare rune nerf to 1s fear, and revert of staff/scepter bleeds.