Guild Wars 2

Guns and Giblets.9308:

LilMcGinley.3890:

even without the tag, you can tell based off armor.

Wait, you can see armor in WvW?

For me that applies. I wouldn’t recognize level 1 armor from level 80 legendary armor.

I haven’t really tried banners. How do you keep regen and fury up ? You drop all 3 banners on the ground, then pick up a different banner, use the skill, drop it, then pick up a different banner ? rinse/repeat ?

Maladon.5760:

Yes I’d cry if I shot a 90

Of happiness ? Keep practicing. You’ll get there !

Niim.9260:

Why not just RNG reward a server, because that is pretty much all the OP is suggesting. If you get a good roll on the RNG matchup system you gain points, if you do not, you lose points.

The issue overall is thakittens all about population and coverage and any reward system you use will eventually just be about rewarding coverage and population. Fix the underlying problem, then worry about rewards.

1. No, his suggestion isn’t all about rewarding coverage and population. You couldn’t be further from the truth.

2, Fix the underlying problem ? …..how would you suggest they fix it ?

It can’t be based on hours, or else people will sit in citadel doing nothing(sad but true). Has to be based on accomplishments. You get the reward if your server rating increases and you have done the minimum of …

Killed 10 yaks
Captured 5 camps
Captured 1 tower

“managing expectations” fits perfectly for this. That is what Anet has to promote and explain….over and over.

Good ideas. Bottom line is to add something so the average person does’nt feel demoralized and actually feels like they are accomplishing something.

I know it is completely psychological but it is similar to when you are selling something. You think $500 is fair. It is far better to advertise for $600, then let the buyer “get you down” to $500. He is happy since he thinks he got a deal and you are happy because you got the price you wanted. If you had started at $500 and staid firm at $500 you likely wouldn’t have got the sale.

Same thing applies here. Gotta change the mindset so people don’t freak when they are facing a tough server.

See that’s the point. They are taking a servers performance and going from there. For one server that success could be based on 90% population and 10% WvW participation. Another server could have success based on 50% population…25% WvW participation and 25% tactics. End result is the same. How well does your server perform. So the only thing Anet has to figure out is how you actually perform …which is more accurate than any population number.

..and that’s exactly what they are doing now.

Draygo.9473:

A

TLDR
Your server gains rating, you WIN, and you get rewarded
Your server loses rating, you LOSE, and you get a consolation prize
over time servers will even out at a 50/50 win/loss rate, as your server rating increase it becomes more likely for your server to lose, and as you lose it becomes more likely you will win rating.

That would be a brilliant move by Anet. What an excellent idea.

People have been asking for a handicap system based on population. So when you log in, and your opponent has a bigger presence in WvW, every thing you accomplish is worth more. Take a tower ? you get credited for 100 points. If the larger server takes a tower it’s only worth 30 points to them. etc etc

What we have now is a handicap system based on both server population, server WvW population and server WvW ability. So when SB is matched up vs Dragonbrand, Anet knows it’s a mismatch. So the handicap system goes into effect. If it was a football game, dragonbrand is supposed to win 100-0. So SB starts the game with a 100-0 lead. So if they score 10 points during the game, and Dragonbrand scores 80 points, the final score is SB 110 and DB 80 = SB wins. SB was supposed to lose by 100 but they played well, defied the odds and did better than expected. Challenge was accepted and beaten.

People need to change their mindset going into a week vs a powerful opponent. Figure out a plan and stick to it. Make it a point to never give up garrison…..or to own briar in enemy lands…..whatever. You are not expected to go toe to toe. It is still a blast to load up on siege in an enemy tower and defend/badge farm. You can still roam and find smaller fights etc etc. Don’t let the actual score for the week decide for you whether you have fun or not.

Keep score not by the weekly matchup, but by how your server ranking rises and falls. That is a more accurate number based on a handicap system.

Change your mindset. If you played Tiger Woods in a 1v1 and he gave you 25 strokes. He shot a 68 and you shot a 90. Would you cry because you got smoked or be happy because based on the talent difference you overcame it and won ?

Play the game….kill some people…have some laughs with friends and have fun. Don’t worry about playing a tougher server. You are rewarded for doing you best and it isn’t a fail if you don’t beat them with the actual score for the week.

Nice video. Gotta be fairly skilled and knowledgeable of other classes to make this build work to it’s full potential.

Attack of Opportunity is wasted on a person like myself who is horrible at interrupts. Easier for me to use Signet of the Beastmaster to get hte AoO

Question though :
Before a rapid fire you mentioned you nailed you attack of Opportunity which is why you damage was so high. That confused me. Your first damage after getting AoO is 150%. The entire channel isn’t 150% is it ?… because I tested it and it looks like it only increases the first shot of the channel

Someone mentioned Daoc……and that is also my idea of what a Warrior should be. I remember some epic battles vs Warriors when I was on my Scout. I would start from stealth+range and start shooting. My damage was horrible. Warrior armor in Daoc actually mitigated damage. I would have to kite and stay out of range for a couple of minutes. If the Warrior got to me..I was dead.

GW2 I can keep away fairly easily. My damage isn’t noticeably less even though they wear heavy armor, and I can survive a burst if they do actually get to me once.

1. thing on my wish list for Warriors is make their armor actually do something…IE mitigate damage.

Faux Sheaux.6179:

Forzani.2584:

New week = time for another change. Put this build back into play after a 6 week hiatus. Made one change with the food. Added this to increase the damage a bit but more importantly it increases time of chills, cripples and heal suppression.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bowl_of_Garlic_Kale_Sautee

Isn’t this the same thing as Veggie Pizza?

I think so. The kale is a 60 minute buff though.

You use mango pie..correct ?

RyuDragnier.9476:

Forzani.2584:

All the other trait trees should be like Wilderness Survival. Where there are many things you would like to take but can only choose 3.

Edit: …and I have still yet to understand how all the trap traits are put into skirmishing…which increases crit chance and crit damage.

Look up the definition of skirmish, it makes more sense why they’re there when you read it.

I am familiar with the word skirmish. The part I don’t understand…and correct me if I am wrong. Trap damage isn’t effected by crit/crit damage ? If that is true, and traps are condition damage, then 30 points into a line that increases crit+ crit damage doesn’t help a lot.

There are simply not enough servers to give multiple balanced matchups. Even the so called “balanced” matchups before this change were anything but balanced. So Anet could have stayed the course and had stale matchups….that many were complaining about…or add some variety, at the expense of possible blowouts. The good news is things change each week with the new format. No longer will you have the same opponents for 10 weeks straight. So even if you face a much stronger opponent one week, you will get different opponents the next.

I chose variety

Roo Stercogburn.9671:

Interesting that there seems to be some competition for worst WvW design decision

I played on Sunday afternoon and the whole time tactics were a waste of effort. Doesn’t matter if you have 20 people being clever, mobile and inventive when an enemy kitten -squad turns up with 50 everywhere you go. I was going to log on Sunday evening and I just thought to myself, “Why…?” and went off and did something else.

Sorry for letting the side down but when the game provider is blindly determined to turn something into “Not Fun” for a large chunk of their playerbase then they can’t really be surprised that “Not Fun” means “Not Logging On”. See how much income your company makes from that business model over time, chaps.

I’m sure you would be a rich man if you could design a similar game like GW2 that overides human nature to zerg….especially on a Sunday when the casual weekend players log on.

Dayra.7405:

This change was urgently needed as the old system was broken
and the new system is one of the best I can imagine.

Agree 100%

The only other way they could improve things is some type of ingame handicap system based on real time population numbers.

No matter what you do Anet, the whiners are going to whine. Ignore them.

All the other trait trees should be like Wilderness Survival. Where there are many things you would like to take but can only choose 3.

Edit: …and I have still yet to understand how all the trap traits are put into skirmishing…which increases crit chance and crit damage.

Well the only example I can think of is playing a higher ranked football team. We schedule games against 5A opponents to try and get better. The first quarter you are in awe at how tight and well drilled they are. Even though you get your kitten handed to you, it makes you better.

Many times this week I have seen some nice tactics from both TC and FA. Split up their force in two. One group faces off and distracts the enemy while the other loops around to flank. I see it developing but can’t type fast enough to give out the warning.

There are many other examples but too many to list.

So yea, SoS is in over their head. Honestly though this has been more enjoyable than the previous weeks snoozefests vs CD/SBI

Even though we are getting pummeled, change is good. Much prefferable than month long stagnant matchups.

New week = time for another change. Put this build back into play after a 6 week hiatus. Made one change with the food. Added this to increase the damage a bit but more importantly it increases time of chills, cripples and heal suppression.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bowl_of_Garlic_Kale_Sautee

Resouled.5614:

Well, since you’re GC you don’t want to be in melee range. So you want to be ranged and thus I chose LB……………..1 knockback and 2 stunbreakers should help, besides before they are close you can already nuke them. But yeah not saying it outperforms anything but if you want to play a glasscannon ranger this is probably your best bet.

Whether you don’t want to be in melee isn’t the point…because eventually, you will be in melee. Especially against Thieves, who start the fight in melee when they want, since they have stealth.

Even tougher to stay out of melee when you are using a 900 ranged weapon in axes. LB does more damage and does that damage from 1500 units. LB and axes don’t really complement each other.

It sounds like this is a theorycraft playstyle though so take it out into the field and let us know how it worked out for you.

. If you do it correctly, you will kill fast (relative to Rangers), and, you will die fast.

Pro:
- Agree, you should do some good damage

Con:
- Low survivability. Anything gets on you, it’s over (which is kind of the point of GC)
- fat and slow with no mobility in or out of combat. You axes are your ranged. Why the LB ? I would use GS for both in tight fighting and mobility.

Furajir.3815:

Mark my words, with the imminent Weakness buff as a whole across the board, and pets may or may not be taking a hit, I will just revert to regen trapper, and I will use sb and axe/torch or axe/dagger and still lay waste to kids.

You heard it here first. Complain about pet all you want, nerf it’s damage and your’e going to be eating traps for 5x the amount of dmg my pet inflicts.

You’re going to use this is WvW ? Bored at work trying to create a build and don’t have enough points or utility slots to do it.

Looked at this, but the healing in the build is wasted. No Signet of the Wild and no Natural Healing.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQRAnf8YjAVB2xV2Vo2Bi2DOZ+zzeoIH9IXhRVwpG-jkxAIOB58YR0YrbFRjVrTEVrZw8KFRrGA-w

Put the 30 points from Wilderness to BM to get the natural healing but hate all the traits.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQRAnf8YjAVB2xV2Vo2BC2DF5oH9eEr03eXhRVwpG-jkxAIOB58YR0YrbFRjVrTEVrZw8KFRrGA-w

Dunno how you pull this off for a roaming Ranger in WvW

All great advice. The problem is I think I have my camera pulled too far back. Just recently I read a post about a dungeon encounter with some boss. It advised players should prepare to dodge when the boss lifts an eyebrow…that the big damage attack is happening. Seriously ?

With my camera pulled back so far I would never see that. I rarely see any player animations like heals etc. so slashing motions compared to stabbing motions is not even on my radar…especially against thieves who I don’t even see half the time. Either that or it is a graphics problem…or a combination of both.

Nugget.8031:

Forzani.2584:

Can’t buy Forge Runes in market ?

Nope. They are from the the dredge dungeon Sorrow’s Embrace, you can buy them for 120 tokens each.

Well that is too bad…..especially since I have no idea what dredge dungeon sorrows embrace is

Can’t buy Forge Runes in market ?

There was a post where hundreds of people said they hated the new matchup system.. Wouldn’t this make them happy ?

Bumping for future reference. I fooled around a bit with traps, but it was without condition duration/damage in equipment.

Question. You have lots of healing but I guess you need to put 30 points into skirmishing to get Trap Potency. Seems like such a waste to have to take 300 precision and 30% crit damage to get that. How much better would it be in Trap Potency was in beastmaster line.

Just had an Eureka moment from someone’s earlier post.

Beastmaster Trait instead of piercing arrows. Use Signet of Wild = some heals to help survive a bit…+ stability and damage buff when triggered….Signet of Stone. Almost 200 toughness + 6 seconds invuln when triggered. Signer of Hunt = speed +150% next hit damage.

So add Sig of wild+ sig of Stone + Beastmaster trait …and I lose lightning reflex…mud trap and piercing arrows. Hrmm..thoughts?

Indoles.1467:

Forzani.2584:

DeadlySynz.3471:

The biggest hit I’ve taken, not sure on the exact numbers but it was at least 16K from a thief which one shotted me. I’m full glass cannon build, so it’s to be expected.

The biggest crit i’ve done (with rapid fire), I think was just over 18K. The single biggest crit I’ve had with the longbow’s auto attack is just over 5700.

How would you get that type of damage ? I don’t know how I could get any more glassy with 83% crit damage and 3400 power. I get 2k-2.5k on my auto attack. Have never seen 5.7k …..unless I shot a rabbit.

Signet of the Hunt active buff + Signet of the Beastmaster trait.

Gotcha. But that still only gets me to 3.2k give or take. Not 5.7k

Wonder is it is worthwhile to take that trait and drop piercing arrows…hrmm

DeadlySynz.3471:

The biggest hit I’ve taken, not sure on the exact numbers but it was at least 16K from a thief which one shotted me. I’m full glass cannon build, so it’s to be expected.

The biggest crit i’ve done (with rapid fire), I think was just over 18K. The single biggest crit I’ve had with the longbow’s auto attack is just over 5700.

How would you get that type of damage ? I don’t know how I could get any more glassy with 83% crit damage and 3400 power. I get 2k-2.5k on my auto attack. Have never seen 5.7k …..unless I shot a rabbit.

Also, this has been my version of a troll build when it comes to Thieves. I can’t stand the way anet has incorporated stealth. A Thief can enter in the middle of a zerg fighting and kill someone by attrition..stealth..damage…stealth rinse/repeat till he makes the kill.

They can’t do that anymore if I am around because I keep my eyes open for a thief trying to do that….then I focus him down.

Sarlack.4096:

http://tinyurl.com/paoxgyk

Current Archer build, GS moves in smoothly if hybrid melee/bow.

Uses Pair of Jellyfish and Raven/Owl

Very good mix of Toughness/Regen/Protection and Vigor with 60% passive condition reduction

Maintains 1/3 crit rate with solid base power.

Likely that is in my future. Still, would like to see the difference in damage between the 2 builds. Maybe I could guest in some PvE on your server..or vice versa..to see the spread.

Some great advice. Thanks.

Definitely going to go back to healing spring. Good point about needing more of a splash heal.

I do also need another bow. I get to 25 stacks of perception and need to switch bows..

Not sure if I want to drop crit chance. It is at base 53%. I was leaning towards lowering crit damage which is at 83%. Not sure about that. I should really try and bump toughness up a bit from 1232.

Hunters Tactics is a good idea but was already thinking about oakheart to get a regen up when conditioned. Currently in combat my health doesn’t move. Need a little bit of regen I would think.

Sure a different playstyle than the regen I have been using past month.

meta =obnoxious over used word.

Well everything has pros and cons. One thing that always bugged me was when a thief was taking out a yak. Knows I am there but doesn’t care. Nothing I could do about it.

Tonight a Thief tried the same thing. Didn’t work out well for him. 3 longshots…started rapid fire just before stealth = dead thief.

Pretty much a zero sum game. Die..or kill…very quickly.

I noticed that Thieves insta target me now. They see the precise strike buff and know I am a ripe target. Likely wise, since if they don’t, and hit someone else, they will die….especially if you save rapid fire till just before they stealth.

I am up to 83% crit damage and was thinking of lowering that a bit so I can raise toughness.

2000+ longshots and runners don’t last long.

It seems every few weeks I need to make a change to keep things fresh. One og the great things about GW2 is it allows you to do it so easily.

Most recently been using a version of Paundros regen/power/melee build. Before that it was faux Shaux Regen/Condition/axe build. Both have been great and both work well.

Decided I wanted to come full circle and go to a damage build. Currently it is LB/GS..might change to SB/GS. Was planning on zerg surfing but zerg aint up yet so doing some soloing till then. so far so good. It is really really nice to be actually be able to kill someone….quickly. I know I am a tad squishy so made sure to have some escapes with entangle, muddy terrain and lightning reflex. Was really cool to kill a stealth thief with a well timed channel.

Anyways, I am sure there are people out there that do damage builds better than I do…so open to suggestions.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJATRjAVB2VWOWoWCg1j96Lw+BOZKMkRvgC2MB-jEyAYrARRAIQQJvioxWULiGraBTdSEV7PIiqlCIixAA-w

I sit back and watch Thieves from my server terrorize small groups to mini zergs. That way I can actually get an idea what the Thief is doing since I can see him even when stealthed. Thief kills someone, stealths, teleports away and watches from total safety as the zerg runs around like a chicken with it’s head cutoff using aoes and swinging their weapons in the air. Laughable.

The biggest problem isn’t stealth …or mobility…it’s stealthed mobility. Daoc had it right. Even though they had perma stealth, your mobility was severly hampered. Your movement speed was maybe 50% slower than not stealthed.

GW2 ? Two different shadowsteps that teleport you 1200+ units away in a blink. Spam heartseekers…use SB and you can put a ton of distance between you and the enemy. Never mind Fleet shadows that is a 50% movement speed while in stealth…..which is kind of weird imo. The fastest movement speed in the game is while stealthed ? Hopefully I have that wrong.

So the Thieves that come on here telling us to use AOE …yea right. Unless you have a 1200 unit aoe spell I don’t know about good luck hitting a thief with it.

Currently there is zero penalty to be stealthed. No movement speed penalty and zero counters. Plus when you are stealthed you can’t even be damaged to take you out of stealth. Yes, you can get hit while in stealth ….but you are also likely under a very strong regen and condition removal….and as mentioned earlier, very unlucky if you do take a ton of damage while stealthed with all the mobility.

Very poor game design.

Stealth in GW2 is pretty much total immunity.

Chopps.5047:

Rangers have more evades than you can shake a stick at and they’ll hit ya with conditions until the cows come home—all while their pet has a hey day. I hope that helps!

You can shake a stick at a cow to make him evade then go home ?

crazy talk

lol at the comment " let me run alongside the necro for a bit to test the condition reduction" ….talk about playing with your food

Fantastic skills. Great job !

Another nice video. Being able to dodge and evade so well sure pays off by allowing you to drop Natural Healing and pick up more offense.

The parts I like the most are:

1. Watching thieves on the defensive. Nice to see for a change.
2. Really like that you have the abilty to reset a fight. I am horrible at that. I start a fight and suddenly turn into Leroy Jenkins.

Xsorus.2507:

personally i laughed hard when i saw them talking about Kzar Zerg from DAOC heheh

Man that guy could Zerg

but yea, props on running a unique build.

I was trying to come up with a Cleric Build earlier today similar to this, but it was no where near this fleshed out. But yea, very good video.

Kzar, lol that name is a blast from the past.

Callahan.3180:

Lighter.5631:

TheGuy.3568:

Lets point out a few things here. First off war is bad at 1 v x so that’s our situation. WvW is always open to getting jumped by many players. blind isn’t OP but it can be if a class gets enough of it. If you are going to go full melee and roam I would have to suggest Sw/Sh and GS.

As far as what the Op asked (blinded at the worst time). It happens often enough to make it a pain.

let’s point out that warriors are also bad at 1v1.

Not as bad as rangers lol.

I am guessing this is sarcasm ? If not, you couldn’t be more wrong.

Enmity.3428:

@Drek Thalon:

There’s some good advice in your post, but having said that, tactics like these always look great on paper. What I mean is, it’s easier said than done and takes little to no consideration of what your opponent is doing (nor their level of skill.)

“The best-laid schemes o’ mice an ’men, Gang aft agley.”

Much of your advice, such as “cleanse conditions”, “avoid AoE” and “keep up the pressure” are generalities and to be honest, quite obvious. The problem being that much of what you say is precisely what Warriors have trouble doing. .[/b]

You are correct. Lots of generalized cliched comments. Theory craft on paper doesn’t win fights.

BurrTheKing.8571:

Forzani.2584:

I agree with the rock/paper/scissors theory. The problem is I can’t think of a matchup that favors the Warrior in any 1v1

It depends on the build, with the one I posted you can beat most thieves builds that aren’t blinding powder. Rangers are beatable unless it’s the super regen/prot Beast Master ranger. Guardians it actually comes down to skill so long as they aren’t super bunker. Mesmers, Shatter is pretty easy because it’s only deadly when you don’t see it coming. Confusion mes is manageable, phantasm is pretty much unwinable. With my build ele can actually be really easy, rare I have trouble with them. Other wars it depends on the build, if they’re running something like conditions you may lose. Like any fight with your own class it’s generally all skill.

The problem is, so many people run the…screw it let’s call them what they are… overpowered builds that it makes warrior even look worse.

I bet this works well for you….and I also bet you are an above average player that likely outskills your opponent.

The problem is I am focused on WvW. Roam around looking for good 1v1 or 1v2 fights. That build would get kited to kitten in WvW. Seems every fight I get into during WvW I get kited. So much so that I have been dabbling with Rifle.

Also, in WvW, the majority of thieves I face now are blinding powder.

Edit: To clarify. My opinion on Warriors is mostly based on playing against them. I am still fairly new using them and have a lot to learn. As a Ranger, doesn’t matter the weapons I use, it is a mismatch in favor of Ranger.

Zosk.5609:

What will it take for the ‘defenders’ to get it?

Nobody is asking you to sit in towers and keeps. It is not the intention that you’ll spend an hour just sitting there “refreshing the siege” and waiting.

Join a group, a squad, and/or a zerg and actively respond to threats…this is what the designers intend and the players really want. You can respond by entering and setting up a counter-siege, pushing out the “doors”, or just deal with it directly and hit them from behind, or you can take something else to make a trade if you think it’s best…. the thing is, nobody is asking you to do boring stuff (the devs or your fellow players) so why do you think we should make that boring stuff more interesting?

This has got to be the best post I have seen this month. The best part is I have learned something. Join a squad and zerg, since it is what the designers intended I do.

I wish we had 3 weapon sets. Regen is the only constant for me. I switch to a power build with GS+S/D…then go to a condition build with S/D + A/T

The variety in game play keeps things fresh for me.

As I asked earlier. With both players having the same skill level, what class is a good matchup for warriors in a 1v1 ?

I agree with someone elses description of brutally bad in 1v1

I agree with the rock/paper/scissors theory. The problem is I can’t think of a matchup that favors the Warrior in any 1v1