Guild Wars 2

yes i mean what is the best pvp build warrior has? shout bow...lets give it 6 more might stacks. what is the best pve build warrior has? ps...but hey this trait would do the exact same thing only WAY better. i mean u dont need to run gs anymore just take axe/mace and warhorn and youre golden. 2 blasts from warhorn, 4 from banners, 2 more blasts on banner# 5 and 2 more on elite banner...are u crazy? what is the best thing u could want for wvw zerging? more blast finishers!

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

most useless grand master trait ever.

yes

it should activate blast finisher twice.

no are u crazy

its a nice idea but supporting passive play even more is really not what the game needs (even if its for skillful dodging). eg. adrenal implant for engi. these 2 50% options make vigor completely obsolete and are like permanent unstripable vigor. if they stack were at the same problem the devs thought existed before again.

Warlord.9074:

Your kidding right? Axe was really good at one time. last time it was really good all its cleave damage wasn’t located at the end of the final hit. It was located in the middle of the chain and pure axe warriors had optimal damage without finishing the axe chain.

Were you even playing the game back then. Bcuz if you were it wasn’t impossible to do like over 100,000 damage with 100 blades solo.

I am sad to see there isnt viable dual wield option my only guess is that is becuz it will be the elite specialization.

if ps is covered is a 2nd warrior in a group running pure gs because 100b is so op? or is he running axe/mace gs? think about it

the trait is useless but thats no reason to go insane with the suggestions

Warlord.9074:

So i guess its going to be 6/6/0/0/6 with furious and heighten focus.
http://dulfy.net/gw2traits#build=AggBpAKoBZg~
PS will be 6/0/0/6/6 with burst mastery.
http://dulfy.net/gw2traits#build=AggBpAT8BZw~

You could go 6/6/0/6/0 on PS but I feel like inspiring battle standard and vuln rotations is too good idk. Its probably more DPS but not more fun to play.

arent u the person who said warrior damage got nerfed by 80%? anyways the new build system doesnt allow any variety as like 90% have the same builds in mind cause their are no other viable option in the tiers. about ps: its pve i dont think u need inspiring battle standard so badly. it would have been nice when u got it as a bonus like the old inspiring banners but i will not sacrifice damage for…regeneration. when ur playing ps most of the time ur not doing axe vuln rotations as that is a loss of might for the party so i think fast hands will not be missed in pve.

u want to nerf warden?

15 stacks of bleed? that would be balanced if u would apply 15 stacks of bleed to yourself and also necro loses all condi removes and condi transfers they have. dont get me wrong youre right about the duration vs intensity but dude...15 stacks

so u want ur own battle standard? how about targets=5, -1 second cast time again (so its 2sec), increase the life force to 5% and increase the cooldown by 40 seconds. but we need a new utility signet then so maybe an instant teleport

Tadsoul.6951:

they should change the passive to heal on hit enemy rather than being hit, give the active portion the better tech we saw in hot with the chilling nova trait so it can proc like 6 times in 10 seconds and have it give a boon on active like quickness for 5 seconds

heal on hit is so overused. i mean: vampiric, (vampiric precison), vampiric aura, signet of malice, soul eater, faithful strike, zealous strike ,invigorating precision, exlixir infused bombs…dont u think something unique would be better? and why do u want to overbuff everything so much i mean QUICKNESS on a heal? are u crazy?

Rym.1469:

That’s why I say that we should get at least Plague Blast for couple seconds when speccing into Curses.

This would fix majority of self-condition problems and work great with Dhuumfire.

yeah that would be so cool especially for ds1 builds…or in pve encounters with constant condition application

greatsword has never been better for damage. the reason u take gs is the utility primarily from ps. i personally would have liked axe mastery in the discipline line as when u take axe u are not taking ps so u are obviously the second warrior in a group because why would u not play ps when ur the only warrior. anyways u dont need tactics in a pure axe (or axe/gs) build so strength with berserkers power arms with dual wield agility and discipline with axe mastery would have been cool. i mean now u simply take burst mastery (or heightened focus) instead of the badly placed axe mastery so it still works

guys remember damage boost dont stack additively they stack multiplicatively

Seyiwaji.4082:

I wanted to ask the same, but i could restrain myself to do it. Didn’t want to put much attention on it and wanted to wait for 23.06 to see myself
I wish you would have never asked.
Every mesmer know have 6 times stun (Mantra of Distraction) is hell…. and i would not like a nerf on it.

youre welcome

Mattmatt.4962:

• ignoring this kitten discution started by someone not playing the class *

When i first read this change, i didnt understand why.
Then came the engi part’s patch
And everything become clear

Adrenal Implant: Endurance regeneration is increased by 50%.

This trait has been useless since release since endurance regen cap is +100%
Now you can add this now-OP trait with vigor to get to the cap.

How this worked at Anet

“-GUYS!! Engi have one useless trait! It’s a cataclysm!!! we need to power creep the class to the 8th heaven!!!
- Make it synergyze with by nerfing vigor!
-Genius!!
- but … wait, that would nerf ele ….
- 2bird one shot! gg team
"
as i say about Anet way to release balance patch:

This ain’t a good patch if it doesn’t nerf ele

vigor and adrenal implant dont stack, have never stacked and will never stack but its perma vigor now without having vigor. if u want to see who has the best vigor now look at thief (endless stamina trait). and to the person who really thought necro is the winner of the vigor nerf spoiler alert that was a joke.

i didnt even know it was 4 sec in pvp thats stupid. if ill ever go into pvp with my ascended pve thief i will mess everything up xD. but from a balance point of view we need to see how the damage increases in pvp as stealth does not have a use for capturing points but for killing the people who def/roam

hey hollts i already watched it cause im subbed to u gj man. gotta love that 0.5 sec comsume conditions cast time

ok im sorry EremiteAngel that was my fault. but still complaining about traits in a vacuum is just not a good idea. sure their traits is better but they dont even really need it. lets see how everything changes with the patch

EremiteAngel.9765

first you made a post in the necro forum with the title “eles stole dhuumfire” and now youre here? im just asking myself have u ever played ele? dhuumfire is a gm necro got far after release to give them more strength and it was too much. eles always had fire everywhere. i mean 1 of their 4 attunement is even called fire. what do u think u do with these attacks? it was already dumb that necro will get damaging chill which should have been a ele thing dont make it worse. youre making the whole necro community look stupid

OMGimAnoobLOLOL.4730:

Why not use it? If all 25 charges get consumed

are u in wvw? then this is not your discussion. are u in pve/pvp? u will be able to trigger 4 of them by urself and 16 of them by your allies IF EVERYBODY HITS UR TARGET, i hope u see the problem

edit: omg ur name is so fitting xD

wtf is going to happen if u mimic a mantra xD

Larynx.2453:

It’s amazing how people prefer actually prefer axe over greatsword. People just have some sort of hipster-appeal with the meta. If it’s popular and good, then I don’t want to use it, regardless of actual gameplay or mechanics.

yeah but if axe mastery would have been in discipline u could have axe/axe axe5 for half a sec to get instant 3 bars and then interrupt it with eviscerate to proc berserkers power and then auto attack with dual wild ability or swap weapon to greatsword or axe/mace. it had potential to be meta…but then people would actually use axe5 for the full duration which would be so much worse xD

JVJD.4912:

Well arcing slice is a multi target with a fury buff so i guess its a situational choice on which burst should be used, what bugs me is i cant take axe mastery +berserker power at the same time :\

exactly what i was thinking about. but u dont really need to consider arcing slice over eviscerate: if youre fighting trash gs is the way to go anyways as the fight is not long enough for it to matter and for bosses where u would take axe u dont need cleave

Kagamiku.9731:

He’s referring to pure GS over GS/AxeMace I think.

And don’t believe it would be better simply because of how many vulnerability stacks you can apply with axe/mace. And also the eviscerate axe burst skill does way more damage than the arcing slice burst skill..And you’ll want to be spamming Axe burst now after the buff to berserker’s power.

well now he has 2 great explanations depending on what he was asking anyways i would have loved axe mastery in the discipline trait line for an axe/axe axe/mace build. simply axe5 for quarter of a sec to get full adrenaline instantly eviscerate for the berserkers power proc together with a huge crit due to axe mastery and then auto attack with dual wield agility and use mace when available… but hey it wasnt to be and phalanx is too strong to not be taken as the first warrior in a group.

Holland.9351:

Juggernaut (Engineer Grandmaster trait)
5 stacks of Might permanently (after 15 seconds)
1 stack of Stability permanently (after 3 seconds)

Most Dangerous Game (Ranger Grandmaster trait)
8 stacks of Might (after 8 seconds below 50% health)

Why was Most Dangerous Game moved from Adept to Grandmaster again?

juggernaut is only when having the flamethrower equipped which is crap. it was confirmed that there was no change in that somewhere in the engi forums. the trait describtion is just wrong

JVJD.4912:

Wouldn’t a pure gs warrior be more stronger with the next patch

pure gs warrior was always stronger than ps warrior. ps sacrificed personal dps for group wide 25 stacks of might. if u mean warriors in general every single build is getting stronger but this applies to almost every single build of every single class too as the trait rework gives u more traits in general. ps warrior especially benefit in terms of personal dps as they can now pick the traits they sacrificed for picking ps but they also suffer because of the loss of boon duration which forces them to pick less optimal food to sustain perma 25 might for the party

Jaetara.4075:

Big plus, this will hurt mostly elementalist! I hate this change!

we all know that the biggest winner from this change is necro as he never had vigor to begin with jokes aside why do u think this will mostly hurt eles? we have invuln and dodging skills too

Natfrog.4310:

You have never had a thief come out from around a corner or off a ledge? I sure have and never saw him at all before hand nor his extremely large red name tag thingy. Several times. You can close a HUGE gap with short bow and super speed.

xD ban him pls. these troll posts are getting too many. i mean SUPER SPEED? wtf thiefs dont get super speed. they dont even have swiftness. u have not watched ur surroundings playing a full zerker ranger and got killed by a thief. or it sounds like u got killed by all the thiefs uve encountered

edit: btw Natfrog.4310 im still offering u 1000 gold if u beat my ranger with a staff ele in a duel it sounds like ur not really doing pve so i think u would need the gold

Warlord.9074:

Twidom.9481:

Wow 30%? Isn’t that a bit too much? I have both Warr and Ele at 80 so I guess I’ll have to check on both.

Unless you live under a rock warrior has been nerfed by like 80%. So a 30% buff doesn’t even bring us back to where we were. No other class but thief has receive as many damage nerfs as warrior, while every other class has been power creeped and are still getting buffed.

link me a dps warrior nerf. and while were at it link me a thief nerf too.

Bran.7425:

Keep believing that and the attack speed reduction on shortbow (from early In the game’s history) was just an ’animation’ fix. At this point just saying ’that wasn’t intended’ now counts as a fix hmmm....

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/spectral-walk-was-working-as-intended/first

there is no defending the change of movement impairing conditions as it not only nerfs 2 conditions without a great use but also is counter intuitive to how movement skills work.

Kagamiku.9731:

’cause non-PS build will still do more damage than a PS build in a solo scenario. Or if you have two warriors in a dungeon group and one is already using PS.

Strength – Restorative Strength / Forceful Greatsword / Berserker’s power
Arms – Signet Mastery / Deep Strike / Dual Wielding
Discipline – Warrior’s Sprint / DoTE / Heightened Focus

I’m not entirely sure on sigil choices or on optimal food yet. We should easily hit 100% crit chance with signet mastery so I could see sigil of strength becoming a thing, or it could stay sigil of night and sigil of force.

Runes will probably be strength and zerker armor as always.

Greatsword / AxeMace

As for skills. Signet of Might might replace signet of fury, but not sure on that. Only speculation.

even considering phalanx strength in a solo scenario should be a reason for a perma ban xD so i thought that would be self explanatory. and yes ur build is perfect so why wait for somebody else to call it meta. u clearly know how to make build so trust ur own choices

spoj.9672:

From the math ive done precision should be the same when using berserker. Power will be slightly higher. Lots of classes are getting their modifier traits in certain lines switch to crit chance. This means assassin is falling out of the meta even on classes it worked on.

great…but thanks anyways spoj it was an interesting idea either way

hey sagat youre in every sub forum too

Kruzis.7419:

Thief rifle OP.

carapax armor? thats not a thief. every thief wears human tier 3 even when not a human

this topic confirmes that nobody reads the necro forum xD

Aenesthesia.1697:

no, i didn’t try to join the meta lfgs, as i know necro is not meta and it would be dumb to try to join those. You can still speed clear a dungeon with a necro on the team, unless you go for world record.

And playing necro is not bad at all. The problem is all the things you could be doing for the team (including more damage) if you had a competitive class instead of the necro....

sry if i offended u. i meant that every decent group with decent meta players who casually do a dungeon without any problem because everybody already knows every possible scenerio is no speed clear. nobody who knows the current dps charts for all classes should even consider to kick a zerker necro as its dps is not far off of other classes. the only thing is if u need some special type of utility like stealth or reflect to make the specific dungeon run go flawlessly the class with the least use for the group should swap class.
i main necro and my guild has no problems when i run it in dungeons. but i regulaly swap class when we need something different. its fine to play necro and im glad we both know that

Flea Exercise.5098:

Can someone please post a possibly-meta non-PS build? I can’t quite come up with one. Is it going to be a fast hands GS/Axe one or pure GS?

why not take ps? u can now have all the damage from a non-ps build AND take ps…thats why warriors dps is getting okish now

Natfrog.4310:

Damage output is not the entire equasion no but somehow you are only seeing what you want to see. I’m not saying player skill/positioning/rotation/and a number of other things do not play a factor in winning a fight but you are not hearing what I am saying. Most AoEs maybe get 1-2 hits IF you are lucky. As barrage hits for much LOWER per hit it is MUCH weaker and is not in line with skills of similar function. This is not a who is better at swapping weapons or moving to the left or rotating skills. This issue is with the sheer damage output.

if u win with a staff ele against my longbow ranger i give u 1000 gold . if i win u delete ur account

Aenesthesia.1697:

Xom.9264:

PvE…. groups actually request NO Necros. I dont pve so dont care but I still think something is wrong there.

that’s… not entirely true. I tried a few speed runs with my necro recently and had no trouble in joining those full zerk only groups. but if the group has no ele or no ps warrior, i feel i could be doing so much more……

that were no speed runs that were regular meta runs. and no the necro kicking stopped but that doesnt mean playing a necro got better

preorder the game and make it “Lets crap on the Reaper”

yes i dont expect to be god tier on tuesday. i play all classes in meta builds and know how the dps tiers are. an aura with 30 damage on hit wont be game changing xD i just wanted to bring it up because hey…these are the community forums i like to share my thoughts

fgs? that thing doesnt exist anymore… hammer is rarely used but staff ele is so much better (but 2 eles is even better) and ice bow? YES ITS EVERYWHERE its so darn strong

so with trait line specific stats getting removed we get compensation by base stat increase and gear stat increase. but i dont think that zerker gear will give so much precision/crit chance that u get the same crit chance like with 30/6 points in to the precision tree.
so i thought that maybe classes without good precision boosters need assassins gear again (or a lot more spotter rangers). there already are a lot of situations where assassin is a bit better than zerker so with these changes imo only 2 classes will be able to reach 100% during normal gameplay in full zerker: thief and necro.
so i see this as an indirect damage increase for necro as everybody else maybe has less damage because of the loss of power (and thief always was the king of dps)
what are ur thoughts? and if this wasnt clear enough-> PVE.

ice bow #2 and #3 are getting buffed. and im convinced that #4 will be nerfed too as its defining pve by too much. and ice bow #5 will be gone with the new defiant system

doesnt seem underwhelming to me. mesmer got some of the best changes

Sol.4310:

Ranger lacks team support

spotter, frost spirit, might, fury, vuln, condi cleanse, heals…
sry im a main necro so maybe thats why i stopped reading at that point

cats=highest dps, birds=highest burst
choose your poison

sagat…signets dont work in deathshroud they just dont exist. u dont have a signets passive as soon as u enter deathshroud as it is a transform. u cant make sovs passive good in ds because u dont have sov in ds

when they announced the cc changes i went ahead and made myself a human necro for real and now its level 80 and full ascended. i have 8 asuras, the 8 professions…now i have a human necro as my 9th chara for prayer of dwayna and reaper of grenth which i hope will be really good for reaper (chill) as it doesnt lock u out of skills.