Guild Wars 2

So no way to get these now? Feels like they should be a way to get these.

Clockheart is the bearbows and greatsword mesmers natural enemy.

Maybe what they mean is you can get 8g from daily dungeon runs, meaning fast runs like cof, SE, AC, TA, CM, Arahs

I liked the fight, I hated the camera zoom and them dome in genera.

Not until you say please.

What if all of this is just an elaborate troll attempt to get the people of RT to run a suboptimal arah run? O_O

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I guess this mentality is still alive to this day, with all the staff guards and such. My boons help!

Nothing changed. Game is still in a mess from dungeon perspective, and arguably, WvW and Open world Pve.

Jacklinger.2908:

When I join these “Zerker” parties, often they get one-shotted by bosses and I’m the only one left standing, then I sometimes solo the boss and they STILL blame me for not being in full zerker gear! It’s like an irony sandwich.

They probably are using clerics gear too, but to not look scrubish, they die faster and blame the person alive so as to not tip off the real berserkers that he is a clerics. Genius. Same as when he pinged his berzerk gear but was wearing the clerics all along. Pure genius!

I personally run 6/6/0/0/2 for casual / fast runs. I take rifle mod though for 10% on rifle hits.

Zelyhn don’t leave us in the dark! Share your findings please!

I think it’s a message on the state of the game, how despite all the living story prettyness, the state of the game is still a big mess. That’s how i look at it.

Sins.4782:

Bit of an off question, but how much of ice bow 4’s damage occurs after the channel finishes? Would using Elixir X immediately after it provide a significant damage increase?

It’s probably not enough to be worth it, meteor shower maybe.

Oh wow. A mesmer without illusionary leap is dead in the water…

The might stacking rotation is pretty simple for scepter/dagger. If not you could always play staff ele, that’s basically press 4 buttons that are easy to remmember. Play whichever you want, they are both fun classes, though, as said, ele has many more things going for it, squishiness included.

There are indestructible dummies in Queensdale (the town with the crafting stuff), though its not a level 80 area, so not sure if that would be an approrpriate testing ground. I think it would be, seeing as all you are looking for is weapon coefficients. Let me know if that helps.

Who’s Leman? I’m out of the loop ;_;

Though it is better to use GS for phalanx strength builds.

It’s a path in a picture frame. People see this and say, “Oh my, they have dungeons in this game, I love X and Y games’s dungeons! This must be fun!”. Then they are trapped for all eternity, forever muted, forever unseen.

The main problem with bunker down is the positioning has to be very specific, so it may be more detrimental to be in the right position for it to go off 24/7. Also i don’t know if empower adrenaline is taken atm O_o, I usually go for the bleed stacks one, so it would be less damage modifiers, you are right.

I agree to the lack of coefficient data being detrimental to not knowing the engineers place on the dps scale. Things like static discharge, mine field, bunker down mines. Though with grenade spamming alone, we should be able to have at least a 1.1 coefficient per seconds. Add to that blunderbuss and jump shot and tool kit, and baby we got a stew going.

roachsrealm.9284:

I never seem to have a problem with joining specific groups on the LFG. I will join groups that advertise Zerk only meta exp please and they never know I am not zerk or meta build, and somehow I never get kicked…

if people are kicking you because of your class you don’t want to play with them anyway. Rangers are NOT nerfed. I have consistently seen rangers solo Lupi in a bad group and always be the last one downed in tricky situations. People who hate on rangers are missing out.

Oh they know, believe me, some people like myself just expect it or don’t care enough to just make a fuss about it. Especially since if we kick, the odds of another one with the same mentality joining the group will be very high. It’s the little things, traits, utilities, weapons, and most of all, expected kill time. All of this easily tells you that the group is lacking something. Again, people won’t make a fuss about it all the time unless they have the spirit to do so.

Whelp, it’s in the dungeon forums, the other dev recycle bin.

In B4 “It doesn’t work until 10 seconds have passed and it increases dps by less than 1%!”

In all seriousness though, if you are going to be using axes or swords, might as well go for it, dps increase is dps increase and this is a good one, calculated at aroud 8.6% if i recall.

Best support for your team is a good offense, reflects and maybe condition removal. Sadly, anything else, will prolong the fight and guarantee that those “stupid zerkers are always dead while I have full HP, i’m a great player”.

Then again you can play what you want so, cheers!

What other conditions were you referring to? Actually the more conditions on a mob, the more damage we do currently with mod ammunition (2% per condition), but all other damage conditions are usually up there which is why i really only concentrate on bleeds.

I guess depending on the amount of warriors that are in the group (since they are the main contributor to bleeds in speed runs), the engineer dps may go down. A single warrior could put some 12 bleeds if they all crit with the hundred blades / ww combo in around 4 seconds, when the first of the bleeds would start to fall off.

So they nerf basilisk venom into the ground and this spider not only stuns for 5 seconds but boon strip as well? Come on Anet!

I don’t think engi personal dps is that low, especially with rifle 3 and 5, but i’ll wait for the spreadsheet to be done to have a better idea. I mean, have all 7 character classes, might as well play them!

Only time I have been kicked from my party for being a ranger thus far was an AC run where the team comp was a warrior ele and 2 other things (probably guard and something else) which they specifically asked for a warrior. I joined just to ask, why do you want a second warrior for AC? Surely, if anything, you would want an ele?

And that’s about it, maybe it helps that my ranger is called Mossman Junior and that brightens peoples day. Maybe if he were called pew pew Seamus or something people would kick instantly.

I joined a group that specifically “no rangers” even though it was berserker only. I joined anyways because if anyone is going to break the stereotype, it has to be good/decent non-bearbow rangers. Joined, pinged my sword and we proceeded through the run.

SkyFallsInThunder.8257:

Stop necroing ancient threads…

Careful, you will anger the necro god and bring Dhuum to us all!

Is it a fair assumption to say that spotter + frost spirit is around a 15% damage increase to the party?

Advent Leader.1083:

At first I thought this was another one of those posts. Seems correct, legit, and another of those usual dungeon bingo posts but then checks timestamp.

WHY DID YOU RISE THIS ONE AGAIN.

It is a sign, necromancers will rise to the top!

Thanks Obal’s calcul… Dekeys for running these numbers, can’t wait to see the rest. Hopefully the dev’s will finally see this and maybe do something. Maybe…

They will nerf necromancers -_-

I just got tired of waiting for Anet to do something worthwhile with the necro. Been playing for 1 and a half years now and all the changes have been pvp related. Keep on playing though if you enjoy it, after all that’s what the game is for no? :P

I mean we got hit a bit harder with the ferocity nerf than warriors, since we put anywhere from 2 to 3 trait points in the death shroud trait line that gives now 150 ferocity while a warrior doesn’t so he would retain the advertised 10% dps loss to full berserkers while the necro would take a slightly higher hit. Couple that to the axe or greatsword camping which are both high dps, i think necromancers fell behind warriors this patch.

Although necros do have some burst, though impractical, dps in terms of warhorn + wells + lich form for that added power damage.

I did test the vampiric build and it has great potential, except 25 stacks of might increases its damage by… 1.

The way i dealt with my necromancer was, i made him my bank mule until further fixes to the class make him not detrimental to the group (have other 80’s).

If only in-game necromancers were this powerful, Anet plz!

True that, gotta watch out for those nouns, record =/= speed run.

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

spoj.9672:

The only thing engi brings in a speedrun is unreliable stealth and lower dps than thief. Doesnt make sense to ever use one. Ranger could be used in some situations but usually an extra ele instead of ranger will be better. Ranger is not an option in arah p2 simply because of alphard. Pets and spirits dont dodge and often the pet will stand inside alphards hitbox and cause a bomb even while reflects are up

What about Guang’s claim of might stacking and vulnerability?

The eles would cover the might stacking while bringing great dps, the sinergy between LH and lava font is just too good to pass up. Vuln will not be top unless you are FGSing, in which case one ele with 5 in air will have 25 stacks.

Yea for record runs ele’s will always be best for sure unless they are nerfed into “class not found” status; for good, decent or great runs though, I think what I said will be more than viable. I think record runs really just showcase more burst dps classes + skip abilities + clever mesmer portal usage rather than sustained dps or the matter.

@Bwab, not sure if this is true after patch, seeing as the greatsword warrior now does some pretty decent damage, necro will always be that forgotten profession left to die in a corner, next to a ranger. Soon to be joined by mesmer.

I’m not a big fan of toughness in this game though, seeing as any hit will still take a big chunk of your HP no matter how much tough / vital you stack. Granted necros lack vigor or blocks, deathshroud becomes the big Oh dang button. With all that said, when in a bad group, you can play what you want basically.

dutchiez.7502:

hendo.1940:

You’d want at least two eles, one warrior and a thief for path 2. The last spot is basically free to fill up, should usually contain an elementalist or a guardian. All depending on tactics, of course. I imagine a third elementalist could come ahead of a guardian, at the cost of quite some safety, though. As for rangers, mesmers and engis, though, they have absolutely no spot.
Just to give you a raw idea what a possible team composition for said path could look like.

Idk, I don’t think taking an ele over guardian is worth it, especially for lupi & alphard where reflects are king. 2 ele/thief/war/guard is what I’d say.

I think that is a pretty staple group composition right there, guard for reflects + aegis + decent dps, eles for damage and might stacks and blinds, war for dps + banners (if no eles then he could PS). Basically the thief is the only thing the engi could sort of replace for the 17 seconds of stealth (smoke bomb + toss elixir S if i recall which goes over the 12 second stealth cap, warning have not personally tested).

With that said i guess to really merit the ranger in a party, we have to measure how much damage increase spotter + frost spirit would equate to in terms of dps increase since the ranger + pets dps fully buffed is so low. Then again, if the ranger is just going to use say the LH from the ele or FGS, then he should be dealing respectable damage. For that reason I would prefer to have either 1 ranger or 1 mesmer in my dream comp, but not both at the same time.

So in closing, a ranger could be good if he uses the eles LH a good % of the time. Especially for burst fights with the signet of wild (25% extra damage)

So for just normal dungeon running this build is ok (as in play how you want). For more organized groups (banners, 25 might) you will start to feel the hurt since your minions do not scale off of your power. Also, you are missing some key damage mods, like say the 10% from spite, 2% per condition (or 5% in deathshroud if thats your thing). So while on the golems this would explain why you can kill faster, than say spoj’s build, once you factor in that extra 1k power, you will notice your damage will increase a tiny bit while spoj’s would go through the roof. Also, remmember to take into account aoe damage, minions will not last long against this, especially lupi phase 3.

Brother Grimm.5176:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Mystic.5934:

play the game to play the game; don’t play it to get drops, or you will always be disappointed.
this concept is part of Basic Gambling 101

Disagree. We play this game to play, sure, but there is nothing fun about busting your rear in a level 49 fractal and getting nothing, over and over and over again. The drop rates are broken. They need to be fixed. Or even acknowledged.

Is there a reason this isn’t in the Dungeon forums? (In before move).

The devs never read the dungeon forums, if there is a chance of this ever getting fixed, it must be elsewhere.

Engineers are fine so long as you don’t camp flamethrower. Use your grenades, bombs, mines, riffle 3 & 5 and you will be doing great. Heck when pre stacking might you can use shield offhand for the might and switch to riffle before running in.

Mace gives 4 vuln + an on demand stun that hits twice in meelee range. You can also do axe / sword, for on demand block and the stacks of torment.
Perfectly done greatsword rotations (whirlwind hitting 4 times, getting most of hundred blades to hit) does a little bit more damage than pure axe, though, it is negligible so you can play whichever one you prefer.

@mesmania, buld looks good, you can switch your greatsword for a pistol offhand if you want and is recommended for dungeons (that or focus).