That’s how their class works. Go in for the kill, if you fail, you flee. I have 0 problems with that in pvp. They can come and try as many times as they want, the result is not gonna change. Thieves are not OP. Quite the opposite: burst thieves can’t kill anything with decent stunbreakers and damage. Only class I can imagine to have problems with thieves are rangers.
I heard this wise old man saying a while back: “If rock beats scissors, it doesn’t mean you should nerf the rock.”
I think you’ll find that half of the ellens voters didn’t know that the election affected the future fractal. Some may not have even known about other benefits of voting evon.
Exactly. I personally use sanctuary as an obstacle in small areas like clocktower. It makes fighting inside the point extremely hard for the opposing player. It also does buy you those valuable seconds before your allies come to help you if you are being ganged on.
Sometimes I do use it as a place where I can drop maces symbol and let cooldowns recover so I can jump back into the fray.
Well I can personally give you good tips against guardians as I play one.
The most important thing is: DO NOT try to out-last us in battle if you play burst build. You will lose. Second tip is that watch our boons like stability. Hammer can give real trouble if you happen to drop your combo when it’s not on. Hammer is also better against retaliation as the hits are slow but heavy. We have kittenloads of stunbreakers and cond removals so watch when you drop your burst. Try to catch us by surprise maybe.
Bigger symbols, full clerics, boon duration and staff and you are ready to roll baby. Drop dat symbol on dem fools and boon yo allies like dey were yo bros in arms.
Also wall of reflection. ALWAYS use wall of reflection in zerg fights.
2 words: crowd control. Try using hammer-sword/focus. You can dish out good damage while being able to pursuit your opponent despite them kiting. You don’t always have to use GS and frankly, I find hammer a lot more reliable.
First of all it looks friking awesome and second, it’s the matter of game style. Some may prefer GS for AOE fights but then switch to scepter/torch for harder boss fights. It is also a must if you want to run a condition build.
It is an offensive offhand weapon and our only one at that (even though focus #5 is an awesome burst skill). Your main-hands skills do go on CL when you use them and torch gives you some great damage and cool skills meanwhile. I personally used torch when leveling and I loved it. One should level their character how they want. Only at level 80 it makes a real difference.
As a self proclaimed experienced guardian, may I offer you some tips? When you play with friends, try to stay closer to them.
Your build is not so offensive so you shouldn’t stray away from your friends and chase a single enemy. Your weapons too are for offensive game play.
You also run shouts and their range is only 600 so staying close makes your presence matter.
I’d recommend hammer and bigger symbols. Hammer 5 and 3 bring priceless control to the battlefield and hammer 4 makes it possible to interrupt a stomp and thus get your friend back up (while being absolutely hilarious). It also offers a blast finisher if you can time your combos right. If you still want to run GS (which is perfectly fine as well) you should pack a shield to interrupt stomps and apply protection and healing.
Bigger symbols on the other hand make it possible to land them and it also makes easier for your friends to get the benefits.
Play guardian. See how you like it then. All the defense in the world, but can’t kill a thing because it has been decided for you, that with that much defense your not allowed power.
Please do try one. Burst guardian is arguably the most fun you have ever had or ever will. With little skill you will be swaggering around khylo like a friking doomsday device.
Guardians are thieves worst opponents. Too many stunbreakers for BV and retaliation damages them more than the damage dealt to the guardian. Ofc there are some sad stealth dodge tank builds that take a lot of time to kill but hammer/GS combo wrecks them the second they are caught.
Developing new game modes is not as easy as people make it sound like to be. There is alot of balance issues with new game modes as the current balance is molded for capture the point.
Guardians suck at almost any kind of pvp. All classes are ridiculous right now with the conditions and tankiness/heals. Every classes is trumping guardian. except probably warriors.
I fell down my chair for facepalming with all my appendages. Guardians are weak? We are the most balanced class in the game and every one of my encounters where I lose (happens quite rarely) I could have managed with more experience and knowledge of the opposing class.
Current condition builds are strong so you need instant condition cleaning. I recommend putting 20 in virtues: virtue of resolve is stronger and removes 3 conditions. You have an elite that recharges virtues so that is instant 6 conditions cleaned plus powerful healing. Shouts are ok but only cure 1 at a time unless you have both pure of voice and soldier runes. And even with investing for both of those you get the same amount as you would with virtue of resolve.
And don’t forget stability. It’s only effective if you use it with timing. It has the potential of breaking almost every burst combo that comes from necros, thieves, warriors, elementalists and mesmers.
Also we have such a wide variety of blinds and blocks that make other classes kitten bricks.
The decrease in our numbers probably is the fault of the recent patch with necros becoming stronger. All the noobs think they can own anything as long as they use the more “powerful” classes but in the end are humorously destroyed by even a bit more experienced player. There haven’t been many changes to guardians so people kinda forget about them or assume all we ever do is tank and spank.
Pretty much what was stated above. Personally I mix and match my gear and can trait myself to become very powerful DPSer or tanky supporter. Zerk gear requires skill and experience. If you don’t have those, you are just gonna be a burden to your party for dying all the time. Mix armor sets to find the right balance and lean towards zerk when you gain experience. I’d recommend something like +40% crit chance and +60% crit damage. From that you can decide what role you want to play.
In wvw tho zerk gear is the worst option for a guardian. You wont be able to do anything other than ambush some innocent little roamers. Remember that pve and wvw gears are the same so try to keep that in mind. You can always get other armor sets tho if you have the money.
Guardian greatsword is easy to kite but it’s not sticky. It’s pretty fluent and effective but only if the space is limited like in battle of khylo clocktower.
Necros are not that strong. They were balanced and you see this in tpvp. With a good team the necro is CC’d so hard they can’t lift a middle finger and they lack the mobility to escape hard situations. Fear is countered with stability and stun breakers. Just have to avoid wells and you are golden.
This is strongly a 1v1 build so I would not suggest going in the middle of a fray with it. MF gives you some survivability and the chill sigil on scepter makes kiting situations easier. You can also use damage sigils but this is just my preference. You can also switch “stand your ground” to contemplation of purity for more healing and condition removal.
Try to land focus #5 because that is your highest single hit burst skill. I would not recommend torch because it doesn’t have any defense skills. You can tweak it how you want but that’s basically what you are looking for.
You will never “stand back and do nothing” with guardians. We are a melee class and we can build for epic damage if we want to but if you want pure damage then go warriors.
In pvp and wvw you wont be doing full damage build tho because you will die horribly without contributing to much. Guardians are a tanky class that can take a lot of direct damage while supporting the team. You have one of the best melee AOE weapons in game and they will give boons while damaging the enemy.
You CAN be anything with guardian but some options are just more viable than others.
There have been free weekends in the past. Last one was last month I think.
Personally when I buy a game, I watch videos, read reviews and compare it to other games that came out that same year.
If you think you know anything about the game after 3 levels, you are gravely mistaken. Don’t tell me you picked up a mesmer or so and can’t figure out the hotkeys? Posting a complaint after 3 levels of gameplay is just plain ignorant.
If you feel like you can’t enjoy the game because of low frame rate, try closing programs like utorrent. That takes you a long way. If that doesn’t help, there are some other problems with your computer or its compatibility with the game. Try sending a report to arenanet including your computers information.
-player can now catch conditions from his pet.
-Guardians scepters #1 orbs speed has been reduced by 50%
-thieves heartseeker range has been increased to 1200 and will now remove all boons.
-Mesmer clones can now inflict new condition “headache” that makes the opposing player shut down his computer and go outside.
-New play-mode: rope pulling
I made a guardian when the game came out. Never changed my main character since then. Tried all the other classes yes but always came back. Guardians are so much fun and I learn something new every day. You might not wanna jump into pvp right away because you will be chewed there. Take your time getting used to stuff and then go. You will enter a brand new world.
It’s funny how in most cases saying “play how you like and see how it goes” would sound incredibly clicé but in this game, you can’t phrase it any better than that.
Guardians suck in pvp? I must admit I have sometimes rage quitted after losing to a well played engineer or mesmer but as mentioned above, guardians are ridiculous in group play. We can hit EVERYTHING with our melee attacks and buff allies while healing from buffing them. You can build your guardian for solo-play as well but be prepared to lose at some point because some other classes are just better at 1v1.
Also do remember that even if you try that build, I built it for MYSELF. Some people might prefer going soldier runes to avoid putting 20 in virtues and some may want to use monks focus for more stun breakers and offensive solo play. I’d still recommend you to play more and tell how you feel once you reach rank 30 or so.
Tell me again how necros are UP in pvp? Also warriors just got buffed with the boon hate mechanism. You don’t need to reroll. Just master your own class.
Consider who you are talking to before posting in the future in order to avoid looking silly like this.
Warrior and Necro are both in need of tweaks and both professions are stuck waiting. In the interim I am picking up guardian, because I have a distaste for the AI cheese of Mesmer and Ranger, Thief is designed in such a way that you either 2,2,2,2 or 3,3,3,3 which doesn’t seem very interesting, Ele is too button mashy for my liking (and has no build diversity to speak of), and Engi seems like it would be kind of a boring play since there is no build diversity there either.
So you neglect my argument by branding it “silly”? How mature.
If it comes to what class needs tweaking, all of them do. Your post shows that you have no knowledge of how to play those classes.
Thief only spams two skills? Maybe in hotjoin that is full of immature thieves.
Ele button smashing and no build diversity? Please go back to school or play one more than 1 hour.
I don’t know about engies but they are VERY strong and can be traited to be effective offensively or defensively. Just like any other class (even thief).
Necromancers need some serious bug fixes (which we are getting next patch btw) but in tpvp, well played necro is insanely annyoing to fight against and no1 without cond removals can say otherwise. Warriors on the other hand are still weak yes, but they are going to the right direction. There are good warriors out there and that means the class is viable. It just needs more attention than others.
