Guild Wars 2

kiba.2768:

Infamous Darkness.3284:

legendary Frenzy is 1000g

moljnir requires 350 charged lodestones (2.2g*350=770g) 250 bolts of gossamer (0.0892g*250=22.3g) 250 orichalcum ingots (0.0105*250=26.875g) 100 mystic coins (0.0167*100=1.67g) total current cost to craft 820.845g disclaimer all prices were taken from current highest buy offer on the Trading Post

I will come back later and try to add together the total current cost of crafting the cheapest legendary

i find this argumentation laughable.

1. you choose the cheapest legendary
and
2. you compare it to the most expensive exotic

it’s like comparing string cheese to an hermes bag; it doesn’t make sense at all. none!

if you want an apples to apples comparison, let’s do this instead:

juggernaut vs mjolnir+ascended hammer(stats of your choice)

the cost of an exotic skin does not even come CLOSE to a legendary.

[edit]
i take that back. you chose the second cheapest legendary-by 55g. lol.

Of course I am making the most extreme example to make a point that the difference in price is maybe not as much as you thought for all legendaries, I believe that if I was to actually calculate out the cost of the legendary frenzy with all of its components it will probably be quite a bit more expensive than the 1000g price tag on the trading post at the moment. Also if percursors become craftable their is definitely the possibility that some legendaries may cost less then certain exotics such as the moljnir. I also would personally like the option to have legendary sigils that you could swap to whatever when out of combat as I currently own a legendary (FSP), but I feel that before sigil swapping is added all attributes need to be added to the list for attribute switching (ex. currently givers stats are not on legendaries as a choice.)

Edit: after finishing calculations I was wrong and the cost of frenzy if crafted is less then the highest buy offer.

Kal Spiro.9745:

Infamous Darkness.3284:

Their “gender” is selected by the Pale Tree prior to emergence and is distinguished by the same general features as human genders.²

I like that gender is in quotes, denoting that it is not a real thing. Basically this whole line says that they look like they have genders, but they really don’t. Which is what I said.

you are making it out like I’m disagreeing with you while all I am trying to do is provide (preserve in some cases in this thread) the lore and watch the argument as it is quite enjoyable to me. Or maybe I’m just reading too much into what you are saying.

This is from the Wiki for you: here you are
The sylvari are omnivorous humanoid plants. Some sylvari closely resemble humans but with a fey cast to their features such as tilted eyes and pointed ear tips; most display plantlike features such as hard wood for bone structure, have foliage and petals for hair, and bark acting as flesh. Golden sap moves through their veins instead of blood and pollen falls off of them as they move. They are much more slender than the average human and about a head shorter. While sylvari can seemingly absorb sunlight and become rejuvenated, they still must eat and drink to survive.¹ Sylvari do infact have thermoreceptors as referenced by a Sylvari explorer in the Grove. She states that she dislikes Hoelbrak as it is too cold.

Sylvari emerge fully formed from blue fruit pods which grow on the branches of the Pale Tree. Their “gender” is selected by the Pale Tree prior to emergence and is distinguished by the same general features as human genders.² It is unknown whether the sylvari die of old age as sylvari have only died through violence, poison or disease so far and no sylvari has shown signs of aging.³ When a sylvari is harmed, instead of scarring tissue they heal via tendrils and expanding bark, but heal at the same general rate as humans.³ All sylvari have luminescent cells in their skin, causing them to glow in the dark.

Prior to emergence they share a bond through the Pale Tree which they call the Dream of Dreams. In this dream a growing sylvari is exposed to the consciousness of the Pale Tree and the vast pool of knowledge and memories of what every other sylvari has thought and learned of the world. When they emerge a portion of this knowledge remains with them, including basic wisdom and understanding from the Pale Tree and a small fraction of what other sylvari have seen and experienced, though this rarely includes specific memories. After emergence the bond with the Pale Tree is weaker but it links all sylvari and, to an extent, other plants. On rare occasion twins can emerge from the same pod and they exhibit a greater empathy toward one another.

J. don’t bring guildie gale to arah with you are he will be in gift dolyak for the whole time using 300-year old whiskey on you…though it is more fun this way

zoidberg.7801:

Honestly, it is that big of a deal?
I’m a guy, and it doesn’t bother me at all. Marjory and Kasmeer are two awesome characters, and I want to see more of them. Trahearne is a huge character in the game, and I am glad gw2 is showing more female characters.

Oh god you’re here “With my last breath I curse Zoidberg”...now look to signature and realize irony

Verow.6904:

Human gods half of them are Females

no 4 out of 6 are female if dhuum and abbadon are not included if they are included it is equal 4/8
Male gods (Balthazar, Grenth, Abbadon[dead], Dhuum[still imprisoned?])
Female gods (Melandru, Lyssa, Dwyanna, Kormir)

Konig Des Todes.2086:

NinjaChris.9340:

I don’t see why Livia would have changed her appearance or created an entirely new persona for herself for that matter. In 1256 AE she looked exactly the way we last saw her in GW1, so why would she hide herself now?

Minor correction: She looked exactly the way we saw her in GW1, except that she had a stripe of white hair (I’m guessing in replace of that lighter-red stripe she had in GW1).

And this is a very good point, I think. If Livia didn’t bother changing her name and face 70 years ago, why would she now?

Furthermore, why would she go from leader to high ranking non-leader, to leader again? Also, to the OP saying that Livia in Sea of Sorrows was the “personal bodyguard” – I don’t think this is quite true. While she was the one ‘in charge’ during the related events of Sea of Sorrows, it seemed to me more that she joined because of the threat Orr poses which Livia knew how bad it was and knew Edair under-estimated said threat. She outright states she doesn’t care who takes the throne, so long as it is of the Salmaic dynasty (aka Queen Salma’s bloodline). If anything, she’d probably want to eliminate Edair given how poor for the throne he’d be, and promote getting his brother or sister on the throne instead (which may have happened, given King Roderick was the king’s name 50 years prior to GW2 – 20 years post-end of SoS). Either way, while she was advising the most out of the Shining Blade members, nothing says she was Edair’s personal bodyguard like Anise is to Jennah.

Think you meant under-estimated there if not I will just remove this post.

personally I don’t feel it was overpowered as the setup and recharge for it to actually work were quite long…not to mention you had to stand inside the person.

it would also be best to use these 2 kits bomb kit and grenade kit in rotation (grenade barrage, grenade 2, grenade 4,bomb 2,) something like that while using your other utility as the thumper turret(its 3 blast finisher) meaning you can drop BoB, fire bomb, thumper turret, overcharge it, detonate it, and then use its toolbelt skill rumble. for some easy 12 might stacks for the group and then continue with your rotation (dropping bomb 1 skill when all of those other abilities are on cooldown.) you can also get more blast finishers through shield 4 healing turret and supply crate while using the same build (I just have a hard time get off more than 5 blast finisher in the fire field from bomb 2)

well with bomb kit it gets a bit interesting because the steel packed powder makes bombs apply a stack of vulnerability on every pulse, meaning firebomb would cause 4 stacks of vulnerability (it pulses 4 times in 3 seconds) the 4 and 5 bomb kit skills also pulse for more stacks of vulnerability but I believe their damage is much lower.

Side note: I know my engineer can easily hit over 14k with grenade barrage, but it seems to me that 1 of the 8 grenades is always missing does any1 else have this issue.

DarksunG.9537:

“What game are you playing where this is remotely relevant? In GW2, a 2 foot tall asura hits just as hard as a 10 foot tall, 800 lb norn. Any race and gender can make a competent warrior in this magic fantasy land. You can buy that, but then having more women warriors is beyond that pale? The reason injecting more males into the story at this point is artificial, within the context of this thread, is that people want them just because they’re male, not because more people of a specific gender are actually needed to tell a fantasy MMO story.

Sorry but I have to jump in here, no the asura do not hit as hard as the norn in lore, the reason they hit for the same amount is for gameplay and balance not actual lore/the world of tyria.

use your mind not magic go with charr

The scepter of orr is able to “influence souls and the wielder’s energy” perhaps this would allow someone to change their magical profession with it? The Staff of the mists was able to manipulate the physical world, perhaps the scepter could manipulate the magical/spiritual world?

1) stealth is not the class mechanic of thieves, their class mechanic is steal/initiative I guess.
2) stealth is used by other classes not just thieves, mesmers only have 1 less stealth skill then thieves do, engineers also have stealth through their throw elixir s, not to mention their bomb 4 + blast finishers for an easy stealth.
3) if an ability has started to be channeled before you go into stealth it will keep hitting you as if you hadn’t gone into stealth (ex I often do this to thieves as they start to run I use magnet pull they drop a shadow refuge and run into it I pull them out and introduce their face to my prybar/grenade barrage)
4) some enemies have longer leash ranges then others so you just may have still been within the enemies agro range.

legendary Frenzy: precursor rage 31.13g+ gift of wood (ancient wood plank 0.171*250+elder wood plank 0.0131*250+hard wood plank 0.0349*250+seasoned wood plank 0.0389*250)64.475g+ 100g(100 icy runestones) sigil of rage 0.0247g+ 250 oricalcum ingots 26.875g + 100 molten lodestones (0.683*100)68.3g + 100 glacial lodestones (17.64*100) 17.64g+250 globs of ectoplasm (250*0.2935) 73.375g+ 231globs of ectoplasm (231*0.2935) 67.80g+ mystic coin (0.0182*231)=4.2g+ 250 vials of powerful blood (0.32*250)80g+250 powerful venom sac (250*0.27) 67.5g+ 250 elaborate totem (250*0.18) 45g+ 250 piles of crystalline dust(250*.1459)36.475g + 250 vicious claws (250*0.2753)68.825g + 250 vicious fangs (250*0.2794)69.85g + 250 ancient bones (250*0.2204)55.1g+ 250 armored scales (250*0.2957)73.925g+gift of battle 0.5g = for a grand total of 950.9947g not counting world exploration badges or honor or karma, that being said it also doesn’t include the amount that would’ve been regained or shaved off the price from 154 failed attempts on average at getting mystic clovers. which could’ve been anything from 154mystic coins to 154 charged lodestones.

moljnir requires 350 charged lodestones (2.2g*350=770g) 250 bolts of gossamer (0.0892g*250=22.3g) 250 orichalcum ingots (0.0105*250=26.875g) 100 mystic coins (0.0167*100=1.67g) total current cost to craft 820.845g disclaimer all prices were taken from current highest buy offer on the Trading Post

Edit: as promised

personally I really like this guy Victurus the shattered

here are some quotes from him(since you were interested in some branded stuff):
During Defeat Victurus and his Branded army
While patrolling Champion Victurus the Shattered: “March! I want to hear your feet on their bones. I want their skin floating like paper!”
Aggro Champion Victurus the Shattered: “Enemy inside the perimeter! Where’s your training? Kill! Kill!”
Champion Victurus the Shattered: “There! Target practice, you weaklings. I want it stripped to its bones. Now!”
When his army is defeated Champion Victurus the Shattered: “Useless! All useless! I’ll deal with this myself! The blood drives me, the steel speaks to me!”
75% health Champion Victurus the Shattered: “War! Just war! Rip off their fur! Melt them in their furnaces! Fill the sky with their terror!”
50% health Champion Victurus the Shattered: “Mercy? Mercy is for the weak. Step lively, you maggots! Ravage this land until you swim in blood.”
10% health Champion Victurus the Shattered: “I’ve tasted greatness. It’s breaking my bones! It’s making me stronger. Harder! Hit me harder, you weakling!”

hmm I suppose my new question becomes then if this part of the living story happened before or after twilight assault depending on the answer one of those NC leaders could still be leading this faction, they just couldn’t die I suppose.

Phineas Poe.3018:

Infamous Darkness.3284:

I would disagree because not all jobs need to be done by one party member, for example you could have an ele for max might stacks as well as fury, while still dealing incredibly damage through FGS/LH. then you could bring a ranger for frost spirit, spotter trait for increased precision, and 10 stacks of vulnerability(on their opening strike), warrior with strength and precision banner, with “on my mark” (10 stacks of vulnerability, plus more blast finishers when they drop their banners) if using axe mace can apply 8 more stacks of vulnerability. These 3 classes alone not including the rest of your party members are able to meet all your conditions for maximum damage in a party with a bit extra from ranger with frost spirit (7% more party damage and spotter which is essentially 7%~ extra critical chance for everyone in the group). then you still have 2 spots open for whatever.

All the more reason to accept the fact that any dungeon group composition works, and that these threads are silly.

Yes but the OP asked the question, I was happy to assist and do my best to answer it. If you do not like these thread or find them useless/silly, don’t worry you can just, you know not read them…and on your point that any dungeon compositions can work yes I believe for most, maybe all cases that is correct.

sort of but I believe she is technically not of the nightmare court, meaning some leader from the nightmare court would have to represent their force/alliance.

little off topic but ellen kiel=/=evon gnashblade, I believe Evon was in one living story while Kiel was in 4 I could be a bit off please correct me if I’m wrong, personally I would have preferred to see Evon win cutthroat politics and I voted for him quite a bit but that is because I related to him more 1) I main a charr 2) I’m an accountant (IRL), but this is not what the player base chose more ppl preferred Kiel, so she was elected. No big deal the player base chose between these two so I personally don’t feel they should be included in this discussion, but they are not equal as one got far more time “on-air”.

I would disagree because not all jobs need to be done by one party member, for example you could have an ele for max might stacks as well as fury, while still dealing incredibly damage through FGS/LH. then you could bring a ranger for frost spirit, spotter trait for increased precision, and 10 stacks of vulnerability(on their opening strike), warrior with strength and precision banner, with “on my mark” (10 stacks of vulnerability, plus more blast finishers when they drop their banners) if using axe mace can apply 8 more stacks of vulnerability. These 3 classes alone not including the rest of your party members are able to meet all your conditions for maximum damage in a party with a bit extra from ranger with frost spirit (7% more party damage and spotter which is essentially 7%~ extra critical chance for everyone in the group). then you still have 2 spots open for whatever.

Could this faction of the nightmare court be being led by some combination of Vevina and Fyonna as the path of TA with Fyonna taking the nightmare tree was removed, while Vevina was a powerful Mesmer she could’ve provided the ability to hide the Tower of Nightmares, it seems that all of their followers are shown husks, spiders (nightmare court sylvari for Leurant). Could it be possible that some combination of these 3 is the faction that has made an alliance with the krait?

given that this argument seems to have moved to one about physical strength which I know very little of the records and bests of each gender this is what I came up with when googleing quickly Paul Anderson {male}, Jan Todd {female}

Why are people suddenly talking about this now they have always been in certain parts of the open world since the beginning of the game Example this guy has always been a silver/elite he just used to have the title veteran over his head.

personally I main an engineer often running THIS build for dungeons, I can stack a lot of might and vulnerability, I just feel as we are one of the less useful classes for dungeons as I think the only thing that we can do better than any other profession is vulnerability application, we also have great range but most dungeons groups don’t want to range from my experience. we also have a lot of blast finishers and our own fields we can create, can get a lot of might/stealth from 7 blast finishers. If you disagree with me please show me where else we are better than any other profession that could take our spot in that dungeon run.

EDIT: Not to make us sound useless we can do a lot of things well with blast finishers and fields, its just other professions can generally do these specific things better…

how did she get a piece(s) of a krait obelisk? I would have thought the Krait would’ve been more enraged that a nonbeliever/lesser race dared to even touch their most sacred of artifacts much less deal with said person. If it is a piece of an obelisk does this mean the obelisk this piece is from was broken and if so what broke it?

interesting side note did you notice two out of the three leaders of the orders are female (Almora Solkeeper, and riel darkwater), but it’s balanced out a bit because the leader of the Priory and the leader of the pact are both males. I don’t know why people are so bothered by some women taking leading roles though

also @Cynz.9437: if you are going to make this argument (your real world example) please provide sources and what you think was made better, better for one person is often worse for another.

Felvine.9681:

so mobs with a silver portrait frame are elite mobs…haven’t those been in dungeons this whole time? the only new thing is that they broke free from dungeons which is nice. but they shouldn’t say the enemy type is new as it isn’t it just wasn’t named yet.

In all honesty there were already several instances where these elites were in open world PvE before this patch. for example there was one in particular that was in fireheart rise I believe it was a godforged or something, also there were a ton of these in different world boss events depending on how many ppl were there and how it scaled up.

generally the place my engineer takes in a dungeon is Might stacking through use of bomb kit and thumper turret, and vulnerability stacking through grenades and bombs. I run a zerker build though.

1) guard
2) ele (might stacking and utilizing incedible damage from FGS and LH)
3) war
4) mes
5) Theif
6) ranger (frost spirit and spotter trait)
7) Engineer
8) Necro

hmm interesting that so many ppl are talking about the zergs I went to Brisban wildlands to do the events I was the only one there doing them…(ps I play on HoD)

my apologies then to you spoj

lol @spoj that’s not what I was saying if that is directed at me, if you enjoy running with your guildies more by all means continue doing it, I just enjoy the randomness and the difficulty of running with PuGs sometimes it is actually more difficult than soloing the dungeon, sometimes it goes surprisingly smooth.

I’d have to say by its body structure I think it looks more like an oni although I thought the things on its back were spores, not wings /shrug.

I had a guild run the other day they wanted to do lvl 22 fractal one ascended weapon, one ring, and 2 fractal weapons dropped from the daily chest for the group.

by the way united chaos don’t know if this was said but I personally use the legendary shield and it definitely does tie in with the guild wars lore, its called Flame Seeker Prophecies which were the compiled prophecies of Glint(former Glaust) of guild wars 1 prophecies.

personally I have to agree slightly with LordByron.8369 about PuG, I personally really enjoy them and while they may take a lot longer than a guild run and I might have to carry some people I find enjoyment in this and it is not a waste of my time, yes it takes more time to do the same content and you get less reward per min spent, but I truly enjoy going into a group wondering what I’m going to get and changing my strategy based on what the group might be doing, all of this being said I still sometimes get upset with pugs especially after asking them not to do certain things (ex. necros dark fields on top of blast finishers in SE dredge paths especially). I often enjoy a guild run of dungeons too but unless we r all running underlevels/short man or something along those lines its just going to be the same run I’ve done hundreds of other times, everyone knows what to do, where to stack, consumables to use…not so much variety and it gets a bit monotonous sometimes. (sorry I got long winded, but that is the reason I often enjoy pugs)

@Thobek.1730
If you would have read the posts back and forth I wasn’t arguing about her ridiculous knowledge that she gained in such a short amount of time the argument I was making was that she is no general, she uses no effective large scale military tactics and had almost no training in this specific area. She is Not a military genius. Please read the whole back and forth before knocking down paraphrased arguments.

I think he would have definitely like to stayed a scholar or more of an advisor, but he was the commander of the pact being unable to make critical tactical decisions and assigning that decision making process to your second in command is bad, it would be good to ask opinions and get multiple ideas of the best way to proceed with this campaign but ultimately the last word/final decision came down to him.

“good new everyone” grenades damage was increased to exotic lvl pistols (as well as all other kits) and then your grenade 1 skill was reduced in damage by 30% promises that kits would be brought up to ascended level when ascended level weapons came out didn’t happen. If you are not using a weapon that targets someone directly ex. not grenade kit, bomb kit your turrets will hit your target, for me this makes the AI of turrets worse as I play a grenadier engineer. Kit refinement changed because it was “OP”. All this being said we are still the best class at applying vulnerability oh and we are pretty great underwater.

interesting as a side note I always thought Yaotl the fierce was this guy
The main reason I was looking at this was I thought it seemed to show two conflicting groups for many of the minis while set 1 seemed a little more random.

combating/finding different ways to destroy Zhaitan and his minions is worlds apart from leading an army against those minions for Trahearne.

No scarlet isn’t shown as a genius of everything/all knowing, her short story shows that she learns some blacksmithing(norn), Sniper/demolition(charr), Alchemy(hylek), dynamics =the branch of mechanics concerned with the motion of bodies under the action of forces. Synergetics = is the empirical study of systems in transformation, with an emphasis on total system behavior unpredicted by the behavior of any isolated components, including humanity’s role as both participant and observer. Statics=the branch of mechanics concerned with bodies at rest and forces in equilibrium. (Asura)These all set her up to be a great engineer, and while you may be able to argue that synergetics could help in combat it most certainly does not make her a competent general, so far her tactics in the invasions were less effective then Zap Brannigan in his fight against the kill bots. Sniping and demolition could also prove incredibly useful to her…but these tactics are not used by her in any large scale invasion (I suppose other than the crown pavilion where she was wielding what looked to be a sniper rifle but I don’t believe she hit anything)

I will tell you the same reason that I have been saying for both Trahearne and Scarlet why I dislike them, they are both more scholarly types with knowledge in specific areas who would make great advisors or researcher ect in those areas, yet they are placed in the role of a commander of which neither one has any experience and they do abysmal jobs at it huge wastes of life, have you seen orr, there is no front line it is a scattered bunch of semi fortified position that form no front line from which to push forward or fall back to. Did you see scarlets invasions? these were even worse then Trahearne’s tactics. “hmm maybe if I send in enough troops and have them land on my enemies weapons we will dull their blades or they may just get bored and give up…”

edit: also I never had a problem with Kormir

the toolbelt skills if actually using a kit in a way replace the utility you would have had in that slot, that being said I don’t know if engineers have any kit that can truly compete with LH or many of the other elementalist’s weapon summons.

back to the topic at hand I personally don’t see anything wrong with making elemental attunement swap have no cool down for a possible slight decrease in damage.

do you think the mini set2 gives us some insight into what new content will be coming out in rest of 2013-2014?

It shows a few interesting things: 6 main groupings
1) inquest and peacekeepers, focusing on High Inquisitor Maut as a possible enemy or friendly leader.
2) enemies of Kryta(bandits and centaurs) and seraph, focusing on Skarn Darkhoof as a possible enemy leader.
3) Wolfborn and Sons of Svanir focusing on Ragar Shardhammer as a possible enemy leader.
4) Scarlet’s army of watchwork “twisted”
5) Hylek and Dredge… not sure how they would fit in
6) Wildlife drake, spiders, skales, ect.

Into my theory this leads me to believe that the next elder dragon will Jormag, with its focus on both Jormag’s forces and for last years minis the only dragon minions would have been Zhaitan and Jormag, this years it only is showing off minions of Jormag, through the SoS and a specific leader of that group.

no No NO! don’t you realize those engineers need far more nerfs I hope you haven’t forgotten about 100nades, or more broken turrets, or that the thrown elixir U falls through the ground when thrown at uneven terrain, or so many other bugs…I just ask for 1 simple thing please Anet if you could make it so that engineers in all their OPness have to unequip and reequip armor whenever they try to use a kit I think we could b rid of this disgusting profession for good.

by the way yarr people I have fought a theif from your guild quite a few times now who plays a human male theif with black beard and I believe an eyepatch, could I get the name of this player I would like to fight him some more. My chars name is infamous culverin and its an engineer for any who wanted to know I guess I’m also from HoD.

really any run where my guildmate gale comes along all the rest can be pugs and I will have an enjoyable run from him bringing his lvl 21 guard into AC exp when we were 4 manning it to running headlong into a group of 4+ patrols it always keeps the dungeon fun and interesting.
PS. I believe he only died one time in our AC run and he stayed in melee range the whole time.

I agree I feel like a legendary is supposed to be able to change to any stat variety it most definitely needs to have that functionality.

anets words “In addition, we’ll also improve the functionality of legendaries, allowing you to set their stats when out of combat to any stat combo available, so you don’t need to transmute stat changes for legendaries.” source
PS I also main an engineer

@Aaron Ansari.1604
next time you are in the area when the event starts listen to the dialogue there is an asura there talking to the charr asking him what kind of inventor is he not keeping expendable assistants around, that is where I was making that assumption from.

A lot of it depends on technology and birth rates, Sylvari and Charr reproduce the fastest I believe, while Charr rely more on technology and a disciplined military force, this would be their advantages

Sylvari I believe have the fastest growing population, in only 25 years they have come to rival the other 5 playable races in power, I could see them taking over Tyria if they wanted to in the long run (unless their one weak point the pale tree was destroyed as they don’t have another way to reproduce, unless we start brining in the story of malck or whatever his name was)

Norn rely on brute strength and personal fighting prowess, currently I believe if any major race used their full strength against them they would lose, not on a 1v1 basis but a disciplined army vs a bunch of champion hunters would be interesting.

Asura they have a good possibility of being the next rulers of tyria as well, but I think their greatest danger is themselves ex. Thurmanova reactor, uncategorized fractal, malfunctioning golems ex.1 23 4, using other asura as disposable materials I believe something along those lines is said here .

Humans, personally believe technology may be their best way to go as well, get those watch knights working properly and have their own golem like soldiers.