Guild Wars 2

Shademehr.1397:

It’s my belief that Anet strongly views their sPvP environment as their competitive (e-Sport if you will) “small group” fighting environment and WvW as the “army vs army” fighting environment.

I am pretty sure you are right sir…Which speaks to the overall problem, ANET has no kittening clue….I mean have you guys REALLY played sPVP? Bunch of cookie cutter gear combinations that dumb the game down, ran by cookie cutter build-players that even further dumb it down by running whatever “OP thing there is this week”, supposedly all in the name of capping/holding little red and blue circles….If that ever becomes a sport (e or otherwise), just shoot me in the kitten….

Hell the first 4 months I played this game I was convinced it was only there to buildcraft/test your WvW setups (even though the combination limitations prove even that difficult), I was surprised to find out that people took that kitten serious AT ALL. Hell I even used to troll PAXA and tell them to go to sPVP, until I spent any time in there and realized I would rather go run dungeons with the rest of the mouth breathers before I would consider that hellhole anything close to “pvp”.

Jscull.2514:

@Shademehr-

What I DON’T believe to be the intent of WvW with regards to small teams is simple:
1. Team vs. Team fighting, whether pre-arranged or roaming around with no other intent than to find other similarly-minded small teams looking for the same types of fights. This contributes nothing to the PPT.
Shademehr.1397
This next question is really aimed at everyone:
What, if anything, does ANET really need to do to cater to “SMALL MAN” warfare in a WORLD vs. WORLD setting beyond what is already available?

The fact that you wrote that wall text and then put this ^ in clearly tells anyone who is from the hardcore 20% of gamers that you have NEVER experienced and have no clue what competitive gaming looks like. You said small man players can find enjoyment in taking camps and towers…. Bro if I wanted to take objectives, I would have stuck around WAR and would still be playing that garbage game. Taking objectives can be done by 8 year olds…..you are the guy who can’t possibly fathom how our side of this story literally likes cancer more than ppt. You can’t fathom that because all you know is “epic battles” and playing like general Patton come Friday nights. OBJECTIVE BASED PVP IS THE WORST KIND. Mine as well play call of duty, rift, warhammer online, Star Wars…. All horrible outcomes for skilled base pvp.

Our main point is there isn’t ANY competitive hardcore players roaming looking for other competitive roaming players (the thing you said you couldn’t wrap your brain around or fathom) wanting to engage in whooping some kitten in similar skill level fights. This isn’t happening because most of the actual skilled players left gw2 because they came to realize this is a “starter mmo” for people who are money spending casuals.

This is most definitely a starter MMO…I have been amazed at how hard of a time some people have had just picking up the basics of WvW (what siege does what, which is effective, when/where to use it, how to defend, etc)….
When you look at things from that aspect, that of “small roaming groups”, open field fights, understanding that winning a 1v1 doesnt mean you have a good build and/or even know how to play, you begin to realize that an argument of how the game SHOULD be played is really moot, because there are tons of people that really don’t even know how to play the aspect of the game that they think is “the point of WvW”.

These aren’t aspects that real players should have to learn, these are aspects that people who have never done anything but kill computer generated bad guys have to learn. If you are still lost after a month (generous) of WvW on what to do, then you have lived in a PVE closet too long…The game is so kittening simple it is borderline kittened. 4 maps, 3 the exact same, so you have to learn siege (off/def) and 2 maps essentially…After a few months if you still are getting a thrill by PVDooring SM then you make me sad….In these tiers you cant even lead a group of pugs PAST an objective because they magnetize to it if it doesn’t already belong to them. Sometimes I wonder if ANET just crashed two servers in a match, would the 3rd servers pugs be content to PVgate everything? I think they would…In fact I pretty much guarantee they would. At least for a day or two….

Like I said before, I have won a lot, lost a lot, either way my character plays the same week in and week out…The only thing that has ever made a difference to me in this game is how fun the fights are.

I hope all of you siegers and PPTers (meaning the people who think PPT is the only thing that matters) get the chance before you leave the game or ANET ruins it, to truly experience playing WvW for 4-5hrs and never checking the PPT because the fights are so engaging. If that ever happens you may discover why so many people have pretty much given up on the mindset of “we gotta cap SM”, “Erma gerd our garri is under attack”, etc….

Attic.1562:

The forums are not here to coddle you. Think on this next time you feel the need to rage post.

^ He said coddle

:D

Berk.8561:

Based on what I’ve seen, just pushing 1 on an AC makes one about as effective with it as just pushing 1 on a weapon skill in combat. Effective use of siege weapons, including placement and targeting, is a skill, too — and one that a lot of WvW players don’t seem to have.

I continue to be amazed when I’m defending a tower or keep and there is open siege all around and players not using it.

Yeah, that may spoil someone’s PvDoor experience, but one would think that players looking for a challenge would enjoy the challenge oh cracking a well-defended tower or keep. Isn’t that also part of the game, or do we get to be selective about how others are allowed to play?

While you have a valid point, I would add that while it is “effective” to sit on an AC or speed build a bali to kill a cata etc; it is more fun (opinion) to stay off the siege, stack up, rush the siege and wipe them altogether.

The only time I really care for using (defensive) siege (personally) is when we are defending something and severely out-manned. (IE: 5vs30). And even then it is just to ruin 30 noobs day, or give our main force some time to get there and wipe them.

I would be 100% fine if ANET deleted siege altogether from the game, changed the scaling on the dmg done to doors and left things like that (I mean if people wanted to pvdoor all day go ahead). IMO siege just ruins this game, whether it be OP crap like the former ACs, the fact that Trebs solve too many problems, field built siege ruining open field fights, etc.

Jscull.2514:

Shademehr.1397:

Jscull.2514:

This is the reason wvw is plummeting south. People want decency out of enemies more than skillful fights. A shame. Lot of potential in the game as well.

Which part of that mesmer’s actions were “skillful”?

IF WvW were “plummeting south” as you say, I’d wager it’s because of behavior like this mesmer’s.

A shame.

Nah dude this game is dying because people want to “feel epic” by sitting on seige which actually takes zero skill (press 2-3 buttons repeat for hours)…and people want to be buddies with their enemies…. Lol if you’re on another server you’re gonna die to us. Just about the entire population of gw2 wvw is here for the social aspect and not the competition. Thus that guy from the oringinal post literally baffled someone could kitten with him in a pvp zone lol.

The game is dying because there is nothing to play for….Want to get stoked about taking an objective? Cool, just don’t go to sleep because you cant count on people keeping it, or lately on SF can’t even count on having enough folks to defend much of anything…Even if you do keep all kinds of PPT, what do you win at the end of the week? (At one point and time SF was motivated to climb out of T8, but beyond that the motivation is just not there anymore)

I have been on both sides of the fence, wanted to win a match, didnt care, lost a bunch, won a bunch….

Best advice I could give people if you wanna keep WvW alive, stop scoreboard watching, stop coming to WvW to meet your PVE nubiness needs, bail your scary kitten out of those cozy towers and keeps, get off that NUBASS siege and come fight and learn to play your toon. That is one thing that I do agree with PAXA on…

Euryon.9248:

Dear Mezmereyes (Sorrow’s Furnace, Guild GBD or very similar):

Yesterday in the EB JP, you met up with our party and joined us, promising our leader non-aggression in return for showing you how to get through part of the puzzle. She was out ahead of the rest of us at the time, and after she got you where you wanted to be, you promptly pushed her off the perch.

You then spent the next 45 minutes camped out in a safe place on high, using Focus #4 to knock off anyone who got within range of you.

We finally got enough ET people to flood the area such that you couldn’t get us all off, we got through and promptly killed you.

Note that no one died from those falls, so you weren’t getting any loot bags. The only possible benefit to you would have been some perverse pleasure at kitten ing people off for 45 minutes. This makes you a vile human being in my eyes, the lowest of the low, despicable beyond belief. Behind every toon you continued to grief for no reason whatsoever is a real person at a real computer wasting 45 minutes of his real life because you somehow get your jollies off other people’s misery.

You, sir, owe every person you griefed 45 minutes of their lives back.

I do not hold this against SF. In fact, we ended up running with a group from LORD who were perfectly nice and respectful. I’m not even holding it against your entire guild. However, know that any mesmer I see from GBD (or similar) will become target #1 immediately for me and everyone you griefed.

Griefing for loot bags is one thing. Griefing from a safe spot for no tangible reason is a different thing entirely. And partying with someone to get their help getting to the safe spot, and then turning around and griefing them is beyond the pale. I have never seen such despicable behavior before in GW2, and I hope never to see it again.

We on SF take JP griefing extremely seriously. So much so that we have had to retreat from EB altogether in order to police the JP to make sure we are being properly represented in a pvp area.(Which makes it kinda ironic after we lose our keep and whatnot).

Moreover as the new guild leader of “Guild GBD or very similar” I will be looking into this matter furiously, my judgement on the offenders will be cruel, but fair. My only worry at this point, is that once I lay my fury down on this offending Mesmer that I hit the actual one and not one of his clones.

Yours Truly,

Savannah GBD (or very similar)
-Your little pony.

Darek.1836:

King Amadaeus.8619:

Nordic Natedog.4360:

I’m curious to know who the SF Major warrior that was roaming around FC’s borderland was today. He appeared to be a full zerker, hitting pretty hard, and then fleeing as good as an ele after downing a guy with other foes nearby. It seemed he liked to run and have a good laugh after doing so.

Was he a male Sylvari with a Legendary GS?

Pfft what am I even saying, if it was Palace none of you would have survived to even post in here…

think I fought that guy a long time ago, he barely beat me. now that my build is around 20x better Id like to fight him again.

I would tell you where to look for him, but:

A. Nobody knows
B. Once you did find him it would be too late for you

bleach.9074:

SF lost KING and dropped two tiers.

Nope KING = STaR now.

What killed SF (tier wise) was too many of the whining masses not realizing that we weren’t going to Tier 1, sadly our “wake up” call came too late, by the time we faced you guys on DH with the superior round the clock coverage you tend to enjoy, we got facerolled.

Some people have transferred off the server well after we left the DH matchup, but not enough to cause the variation you’ve seen out of us lately. What is hurting SF is that we spent 14 weeks in a matchup that could be won by essentially a server playing only 8hrs of the 24…And so people got trained to think that they could show up for an hr, jump on the pain train and get their badges/xp/karma etc, and then go back to killing poorly designed computer baddies.

As far as the OPs suggestion: Supposedly this matchup issue is ANET’s attempt at getting true ratings info (Seems to be somewhat working for the lower 12 servers at least). Now what they will do with said info is anyone’s guess…However throwing matches intentionally will only serve to give them MORE false numbers that caused servers like mine to be stuck in blowout matchups under the previous system. The numbers are already getting skewed enough by the fairweather quitting that goes naturally in each server when things aren’t going as expected, to intentionally skew them even more in an attempt to get a random match for 1-week seems worrisome.

Nordic Natedog.4360:

I’m curious to know who the SF Major warrior that was roaming around FC’s borderland was today. He appeared to be a full zerker, hitting pretty hard, and then fleeing as good as an ele after downing a guy with other foes nearby. It seemed he liked to run and have a good laugh after doing so.

Was he a male Sylvari with a Legendary GS?

Pfft what am I even saying, if it was Palace none of you would have survived to even post in here…

Myst.5783:

Props to that one female human ele commander from SF, I can’t remember the guild tag.

No matter how many times you get knocked down, you come back swinging.

Probably gonna be a [CoSA] or [WMT] (walmart) tag, if it was the ugliest toon you ever saw with those awful dragon helm horns on then it was definitely a [WMT].

Sororita.3465:

King Amadaeus.8619:

Sororita.3465:

What times are you guys playing?

During 10pm est – 2am est i see tons and tons of SF, they always have more numbers than us.

A lot of FC too to be honest.

Yeah the majority of our players are on the NA West coast, so 10pm est is their primetime, and a lot of them burn the late night during the week.

Hmm ok, yeah i see as of right now theres a not a lot of SF in EB, about a 40 man FC zerg though…and heres GoMs almighty zerg! lol

Yep that is one thing we need more of is daytime folks (NA daytime that is). One would think with summer we would have some kiddies on taking care of that…

Sororita.3465:

What times are you guys playing?

During 10pm est – 2am est i see tons and tons of SF, they always have more numbers than us.

A lot of FC too to be honest.

Yeah the majority of our players are on the NA West coast, so 10pm est is their primetime, and a lot of them burn the late night during the week.

Delete SM and replace it with a huge plateau of roughly the same area, accessible by 3 routes corresponding to each of the servers 1/3 of EB.

Would be fun charging up that plateau fighting forces while trying to clear whatever trebs/defensive siege they had going. So basically like stonemist, minus the walls, and cap-able point.

I only say this because in the mid-lower tiers SM becomes the sole focus of the masses, often to the detriment of an entire server, and sometimes even an entire weeks worth of matchups.

Scleameth.6809:

King Amadaeus.8619:

Scleameth.6809:

titanlectro.5029:

Scleameth.6809:

Also I can’t understand why GoM and SF are so intent on focussing their efforts on FC?

Normally, I’m a “don’t beat down the little guy” kind of person. Unfortunately, the rating system does not share my sentiment. Glicko expects GoM and SF to grind FC into the ground. If they don’t, they will lose rating to FC because they are “doing worse than expected.”

So honestly I’m torn. I don’t want to focus FC, but I also don’t want to lose rating to them for being nice.

Hang on here, if GoM performs better against SF than FC then you would gain even more rating points…

…

Let me set a few things straight here somewhat at least. First off I preface this by saying that no one person(s) viewpoint can be shared by an entire server.

With that being said, most of us on SF were content to give GoM hell this week and in large part ignore FC other than some EB holdings. This was mainly due to the fact that we knew you lost people to HoD, we had immense respect for little bro still from the T8 days, and GoM fields a sizable force that would keep us busy for the most part anyway.

Anyhow, all that began to change for a lot of us when the FC gank squads began attempting to farm us as we were heading for objectives on BL maps. Many, many times over the weekend FC were camping areas like the bridge to hills (from lake), while GoM was assaulting hills on our BL. So of course the natural progression was: “OK if FC wants to stick their nose in our business and not even try to take hills themselves, lets just press them a bit”.

Was not something really coming from a place of anger etc, or even in an effort to try to “win/gain ppt”, it is mainly just because a few groups of FC players decided to try and troll us, so we decided to troll a bit ourselves. (Golem rushes on FC BL Sat/Sunday comes to mind).

TL/DR: We still love ya FC, but if you try to troll farm us while letting GoM have a free pass, we will come rub the SF lovestick on ya.

I get what you’re saying and I was online once when FC pushed on SF BL, but only when we had to fend off GoM AND SF in our EB keep then win back our multi coloured BL. I suppose that FC will have to attack SF or GoM sooner or later and can expect retaliation in return…
I just get the feeling that EB gets all red removed before GoM moves in on the blue side.
Whatever the case may be, it just does not feel nice to be ganged up on although it’s an inevitable situation in a 3-way battle.
Sigh… if only we had more numbers to compete properly

The only thing I can speak to is what I see, and that is GoM flows to the path of least resistance. Meaning the times I’ve seen them pushing you guys (FC) on EB, is when you do not have adequate numbers or they have overwhelming numbers, the same goes for us.

If we push them off of a few attempts normally they go back to sieging from SM and pushing your 1/3 of the map. When we don’t have people they roll over our side, I have logged on to see us having nothing in EB while most of your 1/3 is still red. And in contrast, I have logged in to us having our 1/3 and you guys losing or lost all of yours. More than likely they either have only one commander on at some times, or they only have enough people to mount the big zergs one at a time that can clear 1/3 of EB. A lot of it (from both viewpoints) has to do with playtime and the scenario.

Yes I noticed and yes I agree 100%. 1/4 sec would be perfect.

Scleameth.6809:

titanlectro.5029:

Scleameth.6809:

Also I can’t understand why GoM and SF are so intent on focussing their efforts on FC?

Normally, I’m a “don’t beat down the little guy” kind of person. Unfortunately, the rating system does not share my sentiment. Glicko expects GoM and SF to grind FC into the ground. If they don’t, they will lose rating to FC because they are “doing worse than expected.”

So honestly I’m torn. I don’t want to focus FC, but I also don’t want to lose rating to them for being nice.

Hang on here, if GoM performs better against SF than FC then you would gain even more rating points… You have enough numbers to prevent FC from roaming freely around GoM properties when you focus your efforts on SF, but for GoM and SF to focus on FC to gain rating and merely keeping each other in check seems like a fail to me.

Oh well, sticks and stones I suppose… this darn rating system causes so much harm to the entire WvW experience.

If you guys have to prey on FC then at least leave our keeps out of it and let us have our WP. You guys are costing us a lot of time and money on upgrades just for the sake of Glicko ratings…

Let me set a few things straight here somewhat at least. First off I preface this by saying that no one person(s) viewpoint can be shared by an entire server.

With that being said, most of us on SF were content to give GoM hell this week and in large part ignore FC other than some EB holdings. This was mainly due to the fact that we knew you lost people to HoD, we had immense respect for little bro still from the T8 days, and GoM fields a sizable force that would keep us busy for the most part anyway.

Anyhow, all that began to change for a lot of us when the FC gank squads began attempting to farm us as we were heading for objectives on BL maps. Many, many times over the weekend FC were camping areas like the bridge to hills (from lake), while GoM was assaulting hills on our BL. So of course the natural progression was: “OK if FC wants to stick their nose in our business and not even try to take hills themselves, lets just press them a bit”.

Was not something really coming from a place of anger etc, or even in an effort to try to “win/gain ppt”, it is mainly just because a few groups of FC players decided to try and troll us, so we decided to troll a bit ourselves. (Golem rushes on FC BL Sat/Sunday comes to mind).

TL/DR: We still love ya FC, but if you try to troll farm us while letting GoM have a free pass, we will come rub the SF lovestick on ya.

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

I noticed they made a dev post saying they finally (freaking ANet) found the bug with the Dolyaks on the Blue team for EB, and that they will be fixing it soon. Anyone lemme know if it is out yet?

The supply is a lie!

We totally got hamstringed with that this week….

Myst.5783:

Zumi.6384:

Myst.5783:

…and to SF, one of the many reasons I love you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73SB0qwniXU

Eh this kind of stuff doesn’t bother me any more. Fact of the matter is there are people on all servers who do it, and sometimes people are just having fun.

As a matter of fact, I’ve been having fun recently eating a bunch of Zhaitaffy and throwing up on people after I kill them

Classy? Nah. Funny? You betcha.

I just hate SF and have hated them since I first met them on HoD.

I never miss an opportunity to take a dig at them.

Feelings; they be mutual.

Regarding the video: I lol’d, literally, and a lot…..Mainly because you got corpse jumped by a naked charr.

Regarding the Zhaitaffy, that is good stuff.

Oh hai……….

I’m guessing they are referencing stealth finishing.

GoM = Gifs ’O Many

Gab Superstar.4059:

Manoa.5897:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

arKRazor.8654:

An SF meltdown would be a disaster. We’ve enjoyed a close match up till now.

lol, it is not a meltdown. You have fought our server before, haven’t you? We have next to zero US overnight and banker hour coverage. Amazingly enough, pretty much everyone on SF actually sleeps at night and works during normal US work hours.

We have never fought you, and we have the same issues on DR.

Yes you have. Though it’s been many, many moons (back in our server’s dark days).

http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/history/26

Needless to say the SF that exists now was not the SF that existed then.

It is no biggie, eventually every server figures out that SF goes to work and they can literally PVDoor everything during the day.

There have been times when I have gotten off early from work, and while we are losing this stuff there were 2-5 people total in EB.

Bottom line is that SF is a NA server that is comprised of mostly NA,Canadian,South American (all in the same basic time zones) players. The only way anything will change is us getting some type of Euro/oceanic transfer, or more PVE day players that moonlight in WvW will have to step it up and come babysit while the rest of us work.

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Cameron.6450:

Props to the lone SF charr holding fog camp in GoM bl for half an hour. I was the asuran mes who tried (and failed) to take your camp with the big shiny guardian.

Gratz on preventing SF from getting a +0 tick.

You monster.

That would have been Mr. Leopardclaw. He is an absolute terror when he is on the warpath. I am glad he is on our side, things are not pretty when he goes on a rampage…

She, as I have been reminded.

Gab Superstar.4059:

ErionHashimoto.3015:

Wow, DR. You guys were never bad, but you seem better than last time. Good stuff.

We were always better than GoM, in terms of score. You just manage to night cap a lot during the week days and win anyway.

EDIT: It’s already happening.

SF with a +25 PPT…..We need more unemployed/kids out for summer/euros/oceanics/WvWers in general/ANET to stop releasing useless events every month….

Tots.3056:

EB was pretty fun on reset. I think we Q’d the map with just DDLG and ReGa. Had a last minute switch of team speak because ours was full so we didn’t get the rush on SM, but we held at least 60-80 SF off and kept em busy on their side. No matter how many we killed you guys were able to get back to the fight before we could take out all of you. It was like a never ending stream of loot bags, and for that I thank you. Really liked the amount of open field combat from SF, your pugs are extremely organized. You guys moved similar to a guild group. We in DDLG are trying to lead by example with our core 20 to teach the rest of our guild, so it was awesome fighting a semi organized group that was twice as big as us.

Got wiped in SM inner when you pushed from both sides and sammiched us, then again in danelon when you portal bombed 20 people, and the other 60 came in behind ya. Other than that we didnt have our full group wipe so we did pretty good. Great server communication SF I am jealous. You must have a lot of pugs on voice coms.

One thing I can say though is we were extremely surprised to see both servers conforming to the meta zerging. I don’t think I’ve seen two zergs that big since I was on maguuma, you forced us to work around ReGa and use them as meat shields until they decided to work together. xD (bravost fight ;D)

Either way, I’m super excited for this matchup. Good luck from,
Devona’s Deadly Legends [DDLG]
Collecting Loot [Bags]

We had a lot of fun with both guilds last night (DDLG and RegA). Especially there in that Umber/Bravost/Durios area. Props to you guys, we could tell some of your moves (the feints into ogre to try and draw our pugs in), others we couldn’t.

We weren’t quite sure if you guys and RegA were working together or just “two separate heads” trying to confuse us. As far as the zerging meta goes, we usually have a core group and as zergballs tend to do we pick up people along the way.

Some groups/servers/guilds do not like pugs following them, we encourage it on SF as it helps each and every one of us get better, the more we can teach each other the better off we are. Once we get about 90% of our people realizing that we will do everything we can to win, if possible we will try to hold SM, but in the end the scoreboard, SM, etc won’t dictate our gameplay.

Please keep up the open field fights, many of us know DR is famous for them, we look forward to them.

Most fun i have had in WvW, keep up the open field fights, we enjoy them.

Great balance to this match, I know a lot of us on SF have been waiting for this exact match.

Good luck DR/GoM, lets have some fun this week.

moutzaheadin.4029:

Naussica fee transferred to SF, in the middle of the night she packed her stuff and up and left a few weeks back. We are saddened that she moved. But I’ve always said play for your own fun , not for the fun of others. So good for her.

We are happy to have her, as we were you when you moonlighted in CoSA that one time!

:P

In all seriousness I love seeing the XOXO people, as they tend to duel a bit more than the ROFLstomping that gets attempted by the other guild roamer groups.

Sad there was no fight night, or at least there was none discussed on forums, I checked a few spots but figure I either missed it or it didn’t happen.

THE Dentist.5960:

An XOXO in SF? Huh….. I hope it was just a way to fight each other cause I sure like having you guys around on NSP.

Hmm I know one of them did transfer a while back over to SF to play with their friends on our server.

That might have been what you saw, maybe they were repping XOXO to talk in guildchat and visit with their old guildies. Probably not a plan to leak our 3rd place secrets and strategies though.

But beyond that I haven’t heard of any XOXO’s on our server.

Ahh yes the tier that doesnt fight night….

yanoch.7051:

silverfire.2547:

Mepheles.2087:

impossible to WvW right now kitten dragon bash taking our peeps away, can’t even hold our home towers against NSP all the while, the kiddies are screaming for their toy castle back…. oh and our BL is getting nuked.

Absolutely nothing to do with the dependance on wide-FoV becoming slightly less relevant due to reduced arrow cart range, right?

I still see many player using it. I’m pretty good with arrow cart and know most of the good/safe spots. There was a guy from a big guild on DH in our BL two night ago that was obviously using the zoom camera hack.

Putting ACs to LoS would fix 90% of the AC issues. People that use ACs alot and/or have nice monitor setups are able to shoot in some crazy spots as well, and LoS would most likely fix all of that.

Nessuno.1253:

Prosecutor.1457:

JamboHammer.4397:

TogoChubb.3984:

Wow NSP…you guys laugh at us when it takes you guys 45 minutes and 3 times our numbers to get us out of the SE tower. Now that’s some funny kitten!

You were laughing with us right? :P

Its kinda funny that ur complaining they laugh at u DH when all u DH do is laugh when u kill 1 person with 10+ so plz stop crying when nsp laughs at u and as u can see from my reply above they also used 4 siege + like 7 ppl for just 2 NSP

This is you, cloak, backstab, get hit, lose half life, shadow refuge, run away. You spent majority running away rather than fighting. And it seems NSP likes to roam with thieves only. Spam 2 ftw right?

Oh no, NSP isnt mostly thieves. They are mostly rangers! I swear they had a zerg of rangers fighting us on the middle island from both the SE and SW towers. And they wouldn’t even rush us since they all used SB/LB so we were fighting a zerg of ranger pets like half of the night. It was like we got dropped into a zoo with loose animals trying to kill us everywhere. Oh yeah, and lots of arrows.

Sir have you met HoD? More rangers per capita than LoTRO.

Great guy, great mesmer, not sure how many times he tagged up as a commander…But the times I saw him do it people listened and we were successful. I believe that speaks to the level of respect he had.

When I was on ET, 7 was the one that inspired me to continue on with my mesmer, I was just about ready to delete it one day and someone said: Hey that KING Mesmer from SF is owning people again, I went and became fodder in your pain train that day my friend and from that point on I knew Mesmer was the way to go. I eventually transferred to SF and probably have played my Mesmer more than any of my other toons.

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

Red/Blue is up to 900 now? kittene. That would drive me batty. Whatever happened to Green XD, unless Shamrock was just a joke.

Aye, and Shamrock might be called out of retirement soon lol.

Flappybob.1950:

-snip-Mend puts out every night.

TLDR – Cut the crap, play the game, respect your opponents.
-snip-

Wasn’t too long to read.

Silas Drake.8946:

Had a blast at fight night for the most part. There is always that point where for some reason people stop dueling. However there were plenty of yaks, moose, cats and God knows what else running around the shame ram for entertainment.

Also if you got spiked at fight club it was for a reason. There was a few jerk face moments but that always happens.

Still laughing about that General getting knocked and pulled around.

I assume you were the White Charr Mes? If so, Female Human CoSA Mesmer here with the pink mowhawk…Had fun dueling ya bro, sorry again for the random CoSA (Scarlett= “other” CoSA) for breaking it up, but I am fairly certain it was a draw anyhow.

:D

Jakare.6807:

Pooka.3420:

BTW.. Dont go to Fight Club here.. KING is downing people w/o reason. BS watches.. so its like a small group of people that are allowed to have fun.. You’d think ET would be more welcoming since there server is so light on people.

I like fight nights, and I hope they continue, but there’s a lot of ego being thrown around when guilds turn up in clusters, and BS isn’t going to try and police people. Not sure who the guardian in white TA armor was that decided to spam laugh at me and knock my sylvari warr off the hill when I’m watching fights, but good going man, you’re clearly a pro.

Also apologies to the ranger that I fought when I was on my thief, my lag started going off the rails so I had to resort to kiting you around with my shortbow as none of my dagger pistol combos were happening. I eventually went back up to the ramp and emoted /sleep as it wasn’t a very interesting fight for either of us.

Don’t feel bad bro, happens to everyone. When I first got down to the windmill I was standing next to you guys [BS] and an upscale Charr Guardian hammer-punted me off the windmill lol…

Thanks for a good fight night, shout out to [BS], [VLK], [KING], and even my brethren at [CoSA], I think a good time was had by all. I was kinda hoping some PAXA would show, but I logged at 9EST, so you might have showed up afterwards.

We had some good fights last night though, since today is a wash anyway, I think we should keep it going today up until reset, might be easier to do it on a different BL though as SF pugs get confused about fight night.

Also we had some random people (ET/HoD) that were “playing the game” and capped champs a few times, and the SF-PUGs mistaked it for the fight night folks. So my apologies to any and all (all 3 servers) who got caught up in the confusion.

Anyway, lets get a consensus posting of if you guys wanna have a Friday Fight Day, just name the place and we can run it up til reset if ya want.

-My Little Pony (Haver of large horses and Norns)

Silas Drake.8946:

King Amadaeus.8619:

Azgarn.2145:

codiac.5642:

King Amadaeus.8619:

Serious question, because I remember we talked about it a lot in our last matchup with HoD, and now it is the discussion of the day again in VoIP…

To you people on HoD, does it seem like you have an inordinate amount of Rangers? Like I said we have noticed this both matchups, I have never seen so many Rangers on any server.

Not saying it like a bad thing, and definitely not trolling ya, just wondering what was the catalyst for so many of them? Do you guys have a couple of epic ones that made others create them?

Again not trolling, they are very effective.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaWcAek5_JE

Not me in that, but we all try to be this good. We can only try though, since none of us are the best player in the game.

Thanks, I almost had to kill myself after watching that video, it was so painful…

LOL yeah I was laughing myself, 45 minutes of PVE on a PVP map.

I’ve only watched about 10 mins(all I could handle) of this a few weeks ago. However if you’ve never seen it you atleast need to watch afew minutes, pretty funny.

I enjoyed the comments section under the video the most. lol

Azgarn.2145:

codiac.5642:

King Amadaeus.8619:

Serious question, because I remember we talked about it a lot in our last matchup with HoD, and now it is the discussion of the day again in VoIP…

To you people on HoD, does it seem like you have an inordinate amount of Rangers? Like I said we have noticed this both matchups, I have never seen so many Rangers on any server.

Not saying it like a bad thing, and definitely not trolling ya, just wondering what was the catalyst for so many of them? Do you guys have a couple of epic ones that made others create them?

Again not trolling, they are very effective.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaWcAek5_JE

Not me in that, but we all try to be this good. We can only try though, since none of us are the best player in the game.

Thanks, I almost had to kill myself after watching that video, it was so painful…

LOL yeah I was laughing myself, 45 minutes of PVE on a PVP map.

Serious question, because I remember we talked about it a lot in our last matchup with HoD, and now it is the discussion of the day again in VoIP…

To you people on HoD, does it seem like you have an inordinate amount of Rangers? Like I said we have noticed this both matchups, I have never seen so many Rangers on any server.

Not saying it like a bad thing, and definitely not trolling ya, just wondering what was the catalyst for so many of them? Do you guys have a couple of epic ones that made others create them?

Again not trolling, they are very effective.

snowaugar.1823:

King Amadaeus.8619:

The biggest issue with WvW (mechanic-wise) for me is that if I roll up on a group of 10 enemies, all 10 of them can hit me, but I can only hit 5 of them at a time……

Stop trying to 1v10 o.o you’ll never win

Ahh is that what the problem is? I thought it was a failed mechanic, you know something like if I can only hit 5 of them: shouldn’t it be that only 5 of them can hit me? Also I never said I roll up solo against 10….

/sarcasm
/use your noodle

-My Little Pony

The biggest issue with WvW (mechanic-wise) for me is that if I roll up on a group of 10 enemies, all 10 of them can hit me, but I can only hit 5 of them at a time……

modDW.4187:

Hello it’s me, Your Big Horse

Hello!

-My Little Pony

Much respect to [BS], you guys run a tight group out there, been having a blast fighting you guys when I see ya.

Aratoa.7398:

I love it when people can’t reply to simple criticisms and try to deflect it away. I didn’t say anything about knowing you, SF or anything else. I criticized your post for being contradictory and explained why, rather then going the normal route of just insulting you. Forgive me for assuming there was an actual discussion to go on and not simply the complaining at each other about how awful the other side is.

I’m a full sized Norn, your horse can’t be any bigger then mine.

Your criticism was basically about how I was saying that every server has the same issues with players, and then I criticized your server for being quitters in our first matchup. All the while I even said, “While I understand there were some that stuck it out”…The fact is that criticizing skill level is often a moot point, which was the point I was making as each server has variation in regard to the quality of its players, and the size of said server(s) reflect on the number of these players (good and bad ones).

However, the fact that you took offense to my quitter comment, and tried to lump it into the terms of my statement is laughable at best. Why? Because unlike skill level which can be hard to measure server-wide, quitting is pretty kitten easy to spot. I mean I am not sure if you did not play in our first matchup, but what I remember was that HoD had NO ONE on the map for the most part. I have never seen less players fielded in any match than that of the week we faced HoD. That is even taking into account our current situation with ET….

TL/DR: Yes while it is true that bad/good players exist on every server, and quitters/bandwagoners do to, the level of quitting that HoD displayed during the last match was so legendarily quittalicious, that it was painfully obvious…You know some stereotypes do come from something true….

Your side is at the least not quitting (yet), and my norn is bigger than your norn, and as such: so is my horse.

katz.8376:

lolwut?
15 characters

Now that they’ve seen my horse, they realize just how high I sit upon it!

(Obviously mine is on the left)

-Haver of largest Horse

Devon.9061:

Seeing as we are on the topic of horses. I would like to say NSP guild [SPCA] actually has the biggest horse. That is all.

His was a Shetland pony next to mine.

Bllade.1029:

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

Silas Drake.8946:

Love sideways insults. Especially when they come from someone who is probably the first to turn and run for the nearest tower and ask for the next turn on the ACs.

Not sure what you took as a sideways insult. The bag farm comment is made by every server, every weekly thread. In fact he complimented you if anything on your numbers and persistence, because it is in fact different than we remember when we encountered you in t7.

Also, the AC comment, really? Not only is it another bag-farm comment, but it’s also pretty hilariously hypocritical.

In any case, match has been fun and less stressful (I think mainly because we’re on even-ish ground with overnight crews, it’s annoying how bothersome coverage is in higher tiers) and I’ve enjoyed the fights. Hopefully it’s been enjoyable to some degree for HoD/ET.

Yes, getting spawn camped with 4 balistas, two arrow carts, and a trebuchet is enjoyable “to some degree.”

As I said before I seriously think they need to consolidate ET and FC and HoD, and until they do or they do something to un-kitten this ranking system. T8 is either going to fight against each other forever, or get stomped out.

Got some good players, thats for sure. Just like ET FC and HoD. But it doesn’t matter how good you are, when 5 are pitted against 25.

So in regards to your “Enjoyable to some degree” comment. That strikes the same nerve as when that one guy jumps on your corpse after a zerg runs you over.

I hope getting bulldozed by 50 of us was “enjoyable to some degree.” Oh yes sir Mr.SF very enjoyable thank you.

And don’t get me wrong, I realize its not anyone’s fault other than the way Arena Net decided to determine the new match-ups.

Hey I recognize you, I normally see you on EB roaming solo/trying to troll our PUGs (successfully) with your permastealth/bleedstacking/caltropsing build, which makes what I am about to say that much more spot-on, seeing as how you do not roll with a group nor seem to rely on them to play.

GO OUT THE OTHER EXIT.

Seriously, not directing this at Bllade so much but just people on this game in general. The INSTANT that someone cannot do something that they think they should be able to they come on these forums to complain.

ANET gave you 3 exits as to assist you in times of shear overwhelming numbers, if you insist on face-tanking the siege put up by campers then you simply are getting what you deserve.

Instead: make them look stupid by going out the back door and assaulting a tower etc.
You want to know what is being said by people that spawn camp you? Well it is things like:“Do they not realize they have another exit?”, “Wow lets build a 10th balista since they are gonna just keep feeding us bags”, “Thank god they are too tunnel-visioned to stop running into our spawn-camp”, “I hope they don’t breakout while we stand here and camp them”

With all that being said, there is no doubt SF has displayed superior numbers, somewhat sickens me personally as we struggled to field anything in T6 once the bandwagon it a bump or two….But you guys (HoD) could put up a better fight should you organize a little better. I saw some interesting tactics Sunday evening, guerilla warfare akittens finest…You guys were hitting Mendon, then Dane, then Bravost. Had us guessing, and keeping us on our toes. All the while the rest of your forces were face tanking the siege shown in the quoted pic. So obviously some of you know what to do, my suggestion is follow their lead, not the lead of your PUGs who intend on making a path with their squishy faces instead of walking out a back exit.

They moved the old thread now.

To All of Eredon’s Terrace:

Many of us at SF wanted you guys to know that you truly (sincerely) have our respect. Many of us were shocked and a little depressed when we saw Katz LA screenshot. I am no stranger to being outmanned back from my days on ET, but what you guys seem to be dealing with now likely no one but you has experienced.

Beyond that I will tell you guys the same thing I told Smiling: I hope that you continue to fight for your server and inspire us all with the pride that you display day in and day out. However, if your burden becomes too great and you begin looking for another home, I would first (of course) suggest FC. Beyond that I would really hope you guys consider SF, you would be welcomed with open arms.

Like I said, hopefully you guys keep up the ET banner, but no one could blame any of you for leaving after everyone else has. Also please do not take this as a troll or as a full-on recruitment, I am more so just wanting to extend our respect to you, and let you know that Big Brother’s door is always open to you.

Floofs.3574:

It’s because I’m gay, isn’t it

That just makes us like you moar.