dont want Beast Master because thats too similar to what we already have.
Remember the mechanics of the class suppose to also change depending on sub class.
So what would change about beast master to make them cool and fun to play over the current class?
A return of preparations would be what makes me the happiest. I’m not sure if we will ever see it though.
I think preparations pretty much got turned into venoms and given to thief. Rangers could theoretically get their own venoms in the future, but since they already share traps with thieves, it seems unlikely.
BLEEP NO!!! dont give them ideas like that. Even the Thief community doesnt use Venoms much…
Will specializations require the expansion?
in Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns
Posted by: Knighthonor.4061
Heart of Thorns will be bringing a number of changes to core mechanics, including profession specializations. While the Revenant profession is pretty much guaranteed to require the expansion and won’t cause any issues, locking specializations behind the expansion could cause a lot of issues. How would PvP and WvW balance work? Are vanilla players just out of luck? Will some features of the expansion be available to all players?
I believe its in the same nature of GW1 and its expansions when it came to new skills for classes. Sometimes you will fight somebody with a skill you don’t have access to.
This is closer to GvG than what GW2 players refer to as GvG from what I understand.
Not saying your criticism is invalid, however, there are two groups of people with two vastly different definitions of GvG. For one of those groups Stronghold seems to hit pretty close to home when it comes to GvG.
Explain please because I am confused.
Keep in mind that in the current Gw2 a main map ore main zones consist of multiple zones collectively.
Well a region, such as Kryta consists of multiple maps/zones such as Queensdale.
Can’t really call the three areas of the jungle regions though, since geographically they could even be on top of each other. Their use of the word biome was a smart choice in my opinion.
Same concept but each region is over top of each other instead of next to each other.
Each “Biome” would be made up of zones like Regions already are.
Revenant Legends - Who would you channel?
in Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns
Posted by: Knighthonor.4061
Summon Abaddon to help me destroy all of you in WvW!!!!
Bahahahhahha
I am surprised I only have a 1 human. But kind of scared to make a human for new class, because I got attached to the Norn after a while.
Well anything said regarding this?
Not similar at all. They share heavy armor, and a connection to the mists, but that’s about it. (oh, and spears too.)
But, all we know is what was announced and like 50 words about the class. Maybe it will be more similar when we know more, but for now……nope.
So as of now you don’t like the new class off of the info gathered? Yes or no? I not sure based on your response.
Well many people said they couldn’t make a decision without knowing what the class was. Well here you are.
The Revenant
Has been revealed….
What race will you play for it?
No one on the forums was even close to guessing this class beforehand, if someone can prove me wrong please link.
“I’d like to see a profession that uses spirit magic. I’m no lore nut, so correct if I’m wrong, but Tyria’s oldest form of magic (and the only one not governed by the Bloodstone) is spirit magic, or the type of magic practiced by Ritualists. I’d like to see a heavy armor profession added to the game, but I feel such a profession would be too close to the Guardian if it wore heavy armor.”
Yes pretty close. I want to see what people of hated these predictions think about the new class that was revealed.
… Not really at all. lol
Nah its a lot alike. They both call upon souls of undead and demons to make use of their skills, aka a transformation in GW2 terms.
Both heavy armor. Rytlock as the example in both. Lol. I predicted it well
Stop taking the credit for Anets class please, your prediction is not even close.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/New-Class-Idea-Question/first#post4663976
ZOMG! Anet totally steal my idea!
The new class is
death knightRevenant.
If you didn’t realize Rytlock jumps into the whole on the ground. I’m sorry to tell you, but Rytlock died.
Fortunately he come back to life and become adeath knightRevenant. The next living story serves as an introduction to the new class.
He was lost into the mist which is where undead god and the demon god resides. Plus with his armor it gave away a lot, as well as the trailers and living story that came out a few weeks ago pretty much gave it all away that it was a new class based on a darker dervish theme but for heavy armor.
I built my class idea off those basic parts and came up with something very similar to the Revenant. My prediction was spot on. I don’t want a treat or anything, just want to acknowledge what people that didn’t like my class idea, think of the new class that Anet revealed. Do you dislike this new class as well?
… Not really at all. lol
Nah its a lot alike. They both call upon souls of undead and demons to make use of their skills, aka a transformation in GW2 terms.
Both heavy armor. Rytlock as the example in both. Lol. I predicted it well
Stop taking the credit for Anets class please, your prediction is not even close.
I am not taking credit, but my prediction based on the limited info I had at the time was very close. I knew it was going to be Dervish themed heavy armor class. I knew it would have transformations and that Rytlock would be the symbol for the new class. I was pretty close even in some of the lore. It’s a hero from the Mist like I predicted.
… Not really at all. lol
Nah its a lot alike. They both call upon souls of undead and demons to make use of their skills, aka a transformation in GW2 terms.
Both heavy armor. Rytlock as the example in both. Lol. I predicted it well
Three main maps.
Keep in mind that in the current Gw2 a main map ore main zones consist of multiple zones collectively.
So that’s a good start to estimate.
Engineer = Mason (get it? Lol)
Necromancer = Reaper
Guardian = Executioner
Warrior = Void Knight
Mesmer =Chronomancer
Elementalist = Archemage
Thief = Demon Hunter
I wonder if this profession had been already designed when GW2 launched or they have been working on it later. Apart from simple curiosity, this might indicate how well would it fit to the current strength balance. If it was forced only to fill the gap in heavy profession row, then something might go wrong with it. But personally i like it and I probably will try it. Though I would like to do this on my new race (largos) character. But no largos I suppose… ;(
Seem like it was planned, since the soldier archetype unlike the others only had 2 classes at launch and early concept art lead to speculation that a dark soldier was in the making pre launch but scrapped for future update.
Also I doubt they worried about balance too much, because balance is really an illusion. No game with multiple classes are ever truly balanced….
I’m still not understanding the similarities people see with the dervish class. I can see the relationship to the ritualist as it’s wearing a blindfold and the description of “Channel legendary and otherwordly powers.” Plus it looks as though it’s holding some sort of scepter, although it may be a sword.
Because the Dervish also channeled legendary and otherworldly powers, that of the gods, and was more of a fighter. This really does feel, based on this early impression, like a blending of the Ritualist’s connection to spirits, with the Dervish’s channeling and fighting ability.
In fact, I wouldn’t even be surprised if Revenant gets a Dervish Specialization that trades channeling heroes with channeling gods, and in Cantha gets a Ritualist Specialization that gives them more casting capabilities.
Man I was spot on with my Reaper class idea.
It’s just like what the Revenant became.
A more dark heavy armored Dervish/Rit combo.
Dervish were holy warriors, while Rev are darker warriors.
Similar in concept they transform into avatars of the souls of the dead and corrupted.
Dervish transformed into avatars of Fallen Gods.
They both Melee oriented but with magical attacks as well.
Be prepared to do a lot of 1-5 skills switching similar to Engineer kits.
What would be even cooler would be for the transformations to switch out your 3 utility skills instead of weapon skills like Engineer kits work, but in the Utilities instead. That could be pretty cool, but would need to be powerful to make up for the losing your utilities while in transformation.
I look forward to this. I want to see what Anet came up with for resource management of the mechanic. I had the Bloodstone idea, but many people on the forum didn’t like that. So I want to see what Anet comes up with.
Also want to see what their secondary classes are.
Can’t wait!!!
I’m predicting this will be a heavy buff/debuff class. Engi received the ritualist style of turrets for offensive turrets (such as Spirit of Pain), but they didn’t get much of the buff/debuff type spirits (Union and Disenchanter spirits).
Though I don’t think they will summon much in the respect of turret piece, but probably more of an aura on/around the Revenant. I’m very much looking forward to this profession if this is the case.
As somebody pointed out to me in my Reaper thread, that idea of stationary spirits is basically the Ranger’s spirits without traits.
But nothing wrong with that since many classes share Skill Types (Ranger and Thiefs share Traps, Warriors and Guardians and others share Shouts, etc)
Seems very similar in concept to my Reaper class idea in concept
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/New-Soldier-Class-Reaper/page/2#post4725022
Pretty cool.
Seem like taking on the soul of a legendary hero will be the transformations. I noticed that some of these transformations includes monsters as well. This is awesome.
Any word on if we getting a build/trait saving feature?
Let’s get open world housing like Archeage as well… Lol
Revenant channel the power of great legends from Guild wars past and use those to help power its abilities.. King Jalis Ironhammer is one of the legends Revenant will be able to channel and Jalis’s dwarf abilities will be available to you when you channel him. The demon Mallyx buried at the heart of the Domain of Anguish is another legend that Revenant can channel to use the power of conditions to defeat their enemies.
From Dulfy..Controling conditions..thats souund nasty. On the other hand i wonder i they will have weapon swap? Ele – light, doesnt have swap, so does engi – medium.
Sounds very similar to my Reaper class idea, what you think?
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/New-Soldier-Class-Reaper/page/2#post4725022
I was very close with my Reaper class. On paper the new Revenant class functions similar to my Reaper transformations in concept. Cool
It seems kinda lame for rangers to get a two-handed weapon (five whole skills) while mesmers only get an off-hand weapon. I expect we will see more than one new weapon per profession.
Yah, I personally would imagine that each specialization will get either a 2H weapon or a mainhand / offhand.
However, someone did point out that the specialization blurb on the official Heart of Thorns site says that specializations will give “A” weapon, so… I mean, I guess its possible that it literally is just a single weapon for each regardless of whether its mainhand, offhand, or twohand. I do agree that it would be kind of unfair and a bit disappointing to do it that way, which is why I personally feel a pair would be better, but who knows.
Another thing we’ll have to “wait and see” about, I suppose.
But didn’t it also say classes get multiple secondary classes?
Executioner -Secondary Guardian class
Axe/GreatAxe
What’s your speculation for the new secondary classes for Guardian?
Maybe some kind of Paragon/Dervish hybrid
Or a Monk perhaps
Or a Ritualist.
New support option for me to play on my ranger in WvW
I love playing support on my ranger. Now I have something to use besides just axe and Warhorn !!! Yay!!!
Support Druid here I come baby!!
Death Knights rise up!!!!
Share your speculation for secondary classes for Mesmer.
Chronmancer seems to be one of the secondary classes since the new skills seem to focus on a giant clock coming from the Shield.
It appears that the new Mesmer shield skill used in the video appears to be a delayed time bomb ground target ability.
Target location and it goes off when duration is up and knocking down enemies inside it when it explodes.
How about a Golemancer? Not like Asura are selfish with their tech knowledge …
Also what about a Tinker class that focus on Melee combat and gizmos and gadgets and stuff with 2handed Hammers and maces….
Warrior is in a great spot right now – PvP WvW PvE. Stop qqing.
well Rytlock Brimstone switched his warrior :P , you cant blame them.
kitten he is!!!
Man up and hold strong to being crap besides a single role…
Only the toughest of people can be warriors! It’s mental toughness…
What’s some ideas you all have for secondary Warrior class?
How about a Warlord- with major support abilities and defense.
Or what about
Spell Breaker – anti-magic soldier
Demon Hunter- shape shifter with Melee and dark magic
Or a Void Knight as a secondary with sword and shield offhand for counter magic role…
Wizard/Mage sounds like a reasonable secondary profession for elementalist.
Any new weapon types added?
New heavy armor class confirmed, it is called Revenant
Revenant vs Reaper
Well I was close
Oh lord…. Somebody revive me I think I am dead and my heart just stopped!!!
I see the light
Necro with Great Sword
ranger with Staff
The light is so beautiful
It’s offical it’s an expansion.
Now post any info you gain about it here for people that can’t view the show right now.
Help us all out
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How dare you all be playing the game when you should be watching the expansion reveal!!!!
>:-(
Heart of Thorns is GW universe MOBA standalone.
Too far.
DING DING DING
We have a winner.
It can’t possibly get worse than this.
Well HoT could be a new Battlefield 4 spin off set in the world of fantasy and Guild Wars 2…
They did say they wanted to get into the consoles….
Hey people mind quoting this post and explaining why you like the change to the trait system for low levels?
Don’t feel like going through thousands of post against the change. I just want to know he other side of the situation.
I want to see both sides of the argument regarding the change to the trait system.
I want to know what people that thought it was a good idea to limit the trait system by levels like they did in the recent trait system update.
Who here supported that change?
IF A-Net is smart and they follow how they did things in GW they will NOT raise the level cap. The best way to allow for player growth is to add skills, traits, new PvP modes, new dungeons/endgame instances(FoW/UW/DoA/etc)and have a good story for an expansion like they did with Factions, Nightfall, and EotN. A-Net managed to keep GW going for 10 years without raising the level cap and Ithink they can do it with GW2 also.
This, but based on how Anet been doing things, I say they aren’t thinking about what’s best for the game…
List in order from worst to not so bad:
1) no new class
2) no new skills per class (min net gain 8 )
3) no new Weapon types (for land combat)
4) not an expansion or similar concept to traditional expansion
5) no big addition to WvW
6) no improvements on Trait system
I want to buy a secondary account for my girlfriend to play, tomorrow with the discount.
But I am scared of the NPE.
I was forced to play the NPE to level up a few of my Alts as of now, and I am as scared of the NPE in GW2, as a Star Wars Galaxies fan is scared of the NGE!
But my girlfiend is new to MMOs, so I am not sure if she will do better with the NPE this time around than in past attempts at getting her to play MMOs. I hope the NPE doesn’t have a tract record of turning away new players. If anything, I believe a proper tutorial system should have gone over basic keyboard movements and mouse movement and camera controls for basic MMO gamers/PC Gamers
IMO.
I was wondering if anybody else had a similar situation, and mind sharing the outcome.
Because if this turns into my second account and I am forced to level in the NPE I,,,,,well let’s just say, I don’t know what I will do right now……