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@Moogie: Good writers know that killing popular characters at appropriate times creates emotional ties.

@Fox: Those plants aren’t tied to the Consortium. They were non-native plants introduced by Canach to enrage the wildlife in his plot to fight the Consortium and free the refugees.

I don’t think she was connected to that – Canach’s dialogue seems to show that she wasn’t as he stated though he met her briefly – as Ceara – he avoided her.

I think she just took a sample of that to help strengthen her toxins from the Toxic Alliance along with the anti-toxins used, thus making the miasma.

Stooperdale.3560:

“When Scarlet entered Omadd’s machine and her connection got, well, disconnected, she was vulnerable to Elder Dragon corruption.”

Can you please link the part in game where it says she became disconnected from the dream. Scarlet’s journal states that the nightmares started while she still was in contact with the menders and the journal specifically does not mention the machine.

I still don’t see anything to prove that she was corrupted. She may have just been vulnerable to psychic communication from the dragon.

It wasn’t in-game, but an interview back during the Jubilee which stated that Scarlet Briar is not connected to the Dream and thus all her new knowledge cannot go back to it and the Pale Tree or future sylvari will not be known to them.

http://wartower.tumblr.com/post/60458277036/this-lorespecial-is-about-scarlet-briar-the-evil

Stooperdale.3560:

No red thorns does not mean corrupted.
Master? Has nobody ever had a master apart from dragon minions? Come on!
She wasn’t in control? Of course not. She was crazy. That’s one thing we do know.

However, Scarlet is very narcessistic. In the above interview, Scott mentions how she thinks no one but possibly the Elder Dragons poses a threat to her (in her mind). She wouldn’t call something her master, everything about her is becoming her own master – to be independent.

Draconic corruption removes free will. So this sudden change is befitting of dragon corruption, IMO. So does the hint that the dragons can pose a threat to her – this fits dragon minion mentality, especially dragon champion mentality.

There’s also the yellow “growth” like stuff on her face.

Stooperdale.3560:

Remember that her journal explicitly tells us that she surrendered to the whispers of the jungle dragon over a period of time. The other dragons do not corrupt that way, and we have no reason to believe the jungle dragon corrupts that way.

Actually, Jormag kind of does… See Svanir.

Though Jormag is the only Elder Dragon of the five pre-Mordy ones that are known for mental mindscrews before corruption. However, all Elder Dragon minions do share a hive mind with each other and their master (read: Elder Dragon).

I was hoping Kiel or the biconics would buy his billet he mentioned in Edge of the Mists, and attack Scarlet with him.

Would have been better, IMO, if it was Kiel and Canach in the Gunnery Range platform of the Breachmaker, not Kiel and o-Tron.

Death to o-Tron.

That’s the theory, Cardon. Do keep in mind that Arah was where Glint was cleansed thus you can presume Kralkatorrik’s corruption was present – and it’s where Zhaitan fell asleep, so his corruption was likely there too.

And if all humanity was on Orr, then Balthazar couldn’t have swept the land in flame (he would kill all the humans) for Melandru to then regrow vegetation in the land.

It isn’t entirely clear what happened after humanity was originally brought to Orr, however it’s heavily implied that not only did the Six Gods not make Arah (due to the story of Glint and the mentions of there already being steps of Arah when Dwayna arrived) but also that humanity was moved after being brought to the world (likely due to draconic corruption, or perhaps the Six Gods wanted to live away from humanity and decided “Arah is ours, not humanity’s”). Not proven though, just heavily implied.

Rox: So…you’re a mated pair?
Kasmeer Meade: (laugh)
Marjory Delaqua: (chuckle) We’re currently in negotiations.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_Dead_End:_Advanced_Warning

They’re a couple. It’s been confirmed both in-game and by Angel McCoy in a livestream.

Nothing says that the act of bringing humanity to the world in Arah was done in 205 AE.

In fact, we know that’s not true. In 205 AE, humanity arrived in Tyria and Elona by boat. The act of bringing humanity to the world via portal opened by Dwayna, and humanity’s arrival on the shores of Tyria/Elona in 205 AE, are two different events.

So it seems that the events of humanity’s origins is:

• Dwayna brought humanity to the world at Arah.
• The gods moved humanity (or they moved themselves) to another, unknown location, before they could leave a mark of history on Orr. An interview a long while back with Jeff Grubb hints this place can be south of Elona and/or Cantha – if this map is accurate then it is likely the dual-continent west of Cantha given next point.
• Humanity arrives via boat on the northwestern shores of Cantha.
• Humanity arrives via unknown-atm means in Echovald Forest and Jade Sea (note: not the same group as those of the northwestern shores). Luxons hold tales of a homeland across the sea.
• Humanity (again, a group not of Cantha) arrives on the shores of Elona and Orr.
• Orrians spread into Ascalon and Kryta; Elonians spread into Vabbi and the Crystal Sea (the latter being the Margonites).

Saint.5647:

Until the Alpha connection, there was no name for this speculation. The Jotun observatory also hinted at the awakening of a new Dragon.

Only if you look at half of it. But even looking at all of it, people seem to believe this interpretation.

“It shows that the awakening of the dragons is a natural and cyclical thing. The stars only indicate the passing ages. They do not determine events here.”
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Varra_Skylark

This line shows that the stars’ birth is unrelated to the Elder Dragon rising, but rather that they happen to occur at the same time.

I don’t see why the goddess of life, light, and air would have a realm full of a green gemstone.

I don’t see why.

I mean, she’ll show up in the Thaumanova Reactor Fractal still, but only because that’s an copy of the past – that isn’t “our” Scarlet Briar.

It’s possible that ArenaNet will add in some new fractals dealing with Scarlet, but it’s also equally likely they won’t.

And if you mean afterlife and such… fun fact: we never encounter a sylvari soul.

I wouldn’t say Faolain looks undead. I mean, any sylvari player can duplicate that look.

And I don’t know what you mean by “Faolain was born in the Nightmare” – she was not always corrupted by the Nightmare, and even then when she first encountered the Nightmare she did not fully fall to it – Cadeyrn pulled her fully into Nightmare, and she subsequently took over the Nightmare Court (to his disdain).

Likely, Hoelbrak and the Black Citadel would have been stuck in constant war with the Molten Alliance; Lion’s Arch would be weakened by Mai Trin being on the council instead of Kiel; Faren and emissaries would be dead during the Jubilee; she’d have a bigger fleet from Twilight Arbor; the Tower of Nightmares would have spawned more Hybrids (or “prophets”) and continue spreading its hallucination pollen.

But Scarlet wouldn’t have had the miasma either, being forced to use the hallucinating toxins from the tower.

And Mai Trin’s capture didn’t go according to plan – that seems to be the only hindrance we really gave.

DarcShriek.5829:

A couple points Konig, you make the claim that her armies were beaten at every turn, yet she still succeeded in waking up Mordy. After supposedly being beaten for 14 months, she still accomplished what she set out to do. If her armies had truly been beaten like you claim, it would not have been possible for her to wake up Mordy.

You need to tell the difference between a few things. In this case:

Her armies being beaten individually is NOT the same as her plans being hindered. At every turn, she already got what she needed – sonic devices, holograms, Watchknights, the anti-toxin. Only time we actually hindered Scarlet was Mai Trin’s defeat. But that wasn’t by much.

We beat her armies. But we never beat her plans.

DarcShriek.5829:

As far as not arguing that she’s corrupted, you’ve been the biggest peddler of the position that sylvari can’t be corrupted on the forum. give me a break.

Because until now, there was no indication that sylvari could not be corrupted. But even then, I have argued on a side for a while that it could be that the Dream prevents their corruption.

And let’s face it, I haven’t argued against her being corrupted except for any claim that she obviously is. It’s highly likely she was corrupted, but not outright confirmed, and we know for a fact that, until Scarlet it was stated lore that sylvari of the Pale Tree could not be corrupted.

And even then, what I “peddle” against is the speculation that sylvari are born dragon minions. I have, since the theorizing began, been a member of the “Nightmare is Mordremoth’s influence” camp.

Mickey Frogeater.1470:

Actually the Nightmare Court looks dead more than anything so if they were corrupted by an Elder Dragon that Elder Dragon is likely the late Zhaitan considering how Faolain(who used the Nightmare to hijack the Nightmare Court) was in Orr when corrupted by the Nightmare.

Of course since the Dream is assumed by us to protect against Dragon Corruption it’s likely Zhaitan is only capable of corrupting through the Nightmare…. Or it has something to do with Faolain being a Firstborn and thus not actually being born into the Dream itself…. Of course if a Firstborn is corrupted what’s to stop her from finding a way to spread the corruption into Sylvari born into the Dream.

Gavin – a high ranking Courtier – looks far from “dead.” Neither do Renvari, Ysvelta, or Bercilak. It’s also stated lore that Courtiers sometimes infiltrate non-Court places to spread Nightmare, this wouldn’t be possible if they had some sort of physical alteration.

Also, Firstborn had a Dream of Dreams experience too.

@Stooperdale: And they only recently found out there’s a sixth (the DSD). Wouldn’t doubt it was only recently discovered for the fifth too. And it isn’t like the inquest are omnipotent anyways.

@Mickey: Kuunavang has ties to celestial skills as well as air elementalist-like skills. One of the theories is an Elder Sky Dragon.

Jade isn’t possible. The Jade Sea is now only liquid because of Shiro stealing magic gifted by Dwayna and twisting it via dark rituals, before it was plain old water (with a more green tint than most water hence the name). The only tie to Jade there is in Cantha is thanks to Shiro and by extension Abaddon.

She’s in the Breachmaker.

We fight her there in this update.

I think ArenaNet overplayed that tool with most of Scarlet’s minions. Such as Frizz at Aetherblade Retreat. To ArenaNet, accidental death in a fight is a gag tool (gag as in gag comedy, you know, something to make you chuckle).

hunter steele.7836:

Hello every one today i want to talk about why Scarlet was the good guy against (whole topic is spoilers) Mordermoth the jungle elder dragon that has now awakened. It all makes sense now. here is the explanation for the events that we have been experiencing.

“Tyria will bow to a new master.” She says, knowing she’s defeated.

It was also stated in Edge of the Mists that she embraced the entity in her mind (aka whatever wanted her to tap the ley lines, heavily hinted to be Mordremoth) eventually (at the end of the journal).

hunter steele.7836:

5- Tower of nightmares
Well i am not very sure but i have heard a lot of people saying that she was trying to find the cure for it and that is why she planted it and also the toxic alliance (Water advantage)

That argument got debunked the second the Edge of the Mists was released. Marjory confirmed that she made a stronger poison using Marjory’s antitoxin. This poison is the Miasma that was used on Lion’s Arch – the one that killed hundreds.

She wasn’t working on curing poison.

hunter steele.7836:

6- Marionette
The most interesting of them all and the main reason that makes me think that Scarlet is the good guy. Marionette its self is a mass destruction weapon (Aethercannon) also hard to defeat due to its structure and gigantic form. We helped Scarlet test it in lornar’s pass because by defeating it over and over and by losing to it we are helping her test the aethercannon power and the weaknesses of her Marionette. (It was not used against us because it would have been used in lion’s arch if she really cared about killing us all).

Lore-wise, it was stated in a livestream that the Marionette event happened once. Not dozens of times. The Marionette’s corpse can bw found in Lion’s Arch, and there was no Aethercannon in the first place. The Marionette wasn’t used in Lion’s Arch because it was already destroyed – the entire point of the Marionette seems to have been to kill as many “heroes of Tyria” as possible during the weapon testing itself, given that the Marionette itself would have self-destructed.

hunter steele.7836:

9- Attack on lion’s arch and the ley lines
Scarlet didn’t target lion’s arch because she wanted it, it is obvious that she was trying to locate something under lion’s arch which is the ley lines. If you did the Scarlet’s end instance it will all make sense, after killing her you see the Awakening of Mordermoth cinematic and you go all like will scarlet was trying to awake him but wait! You can go back next to her corpse and you have 3 consoles. 1 of them says “The marionette control panel” There it shows that Scarlet was trying to Disrupt!!! not activate but disrupt the ley lines. So yes she was trying to kill Mordermoth.

Take an engineer with you, you get new lines. I’ve included all three consoles’ text as an engineer.

It more or less states her goal was “the dragon that was heard” (aka Mordremoth, who woke up).

And uh… how does one activate the ley lines… they’re always active.

What it seems Scarlet did was prevent the magic in the ley lines from going anywhere but one direction – a direction that led to Mordremoth.

Notes and Unanswered questions

1- Where is Mai Trin and why did she escape or what purpose?
2- How did Tequatl get his boost?
3- Scarlet’s spinal blade pack blue print says “Caithe, someday you will see. Tyria needs me” _scarlet
4- Scarlet’s quotes “Tyria will bow before a new master”
5- Scarlet’s quotes “Aren’t you curios about why did i do all this? this chaos and destruction?”

1. Scarlet had her escape to prepare for the LA invasion. Where she is, is unknown.
2. Should be unrelated to Scarlet.
4. She refers to Mordremoth. Most likely.
5. She’s just trying to have her traditional villain’s monologue gloating. kitten Braham for eternity.

DarcShriek.5829:

The ironic thing about the quotes you use is that they also provide evidence she is corrupted.

I never argued she wasn’t corrupted, you should note. And in fact, I said “Though the “she’s not in control” does point to the manipulation, if not corruption, Canach hints at her personal goal.”

DarcShriek.5829:

Also, my point that she has armies that seem powerful enough to give her what she wants with out the dragon still stands.

She wants to destroy and remak the world in her image, basically.

Her armies got beaten at every turn. They aren’t capable of doing that.

DarcShriek.5829:

I would also like to restate that it is her calling the dragon master, and if she was summoning the dragon, the dragon would call her master.

Teeeechnically speaking, we don’t know exactly who she refers to about the master.

But that’s splitting hairs. Again, I never argued that she isn’t corrupted. I, personally, think she is. It isn’t full-proof concrete certainty with no other possibility that she is corrupted, however. And I was merely stating “if she wasn’t corrupted, this is her stated goals”.

Mindless killer?

You know who’s killed right? A mass terrorist that has crippled a city that withstood an Elder Dragon’s assault; one who laid waste to four major groups. Someone who’s far too ingenous to simply lock up, who has an army at her back to spring her free just as she (nonchalantly) had her army spring her lieutenant (Mai Trin) free.

Did you have an issue killing Zhaitan? He was pinned down, beaten, and fighting for his life.

There’s also a couple clues that Kuunavang could be a dragon champion – she was compared to Glint even after we knew about Glint’s origins – but Kuunavang doesn’t match the elemental portfolio of the six Elder Dragons.

The number of six dragons just come from Jotun and possibly Dwarven records. If it escaped their eyes, then there can be more than six.

Actually, there is indication of what she wanted if not corrupted:

Canach: Scarlet’s forces didn’t even glance my way. I should be offended, but for once I’m glad to have been overlooked.
Canach: Yes, Scarlet and I share a certain…fixation on self-determination, but we are not natural allies.
Canach: I seek to define my role in this world. She seeks to tear this world down and use the rubble as her throne.
Canach: I’ve seen eyes like hers…in the mirror. She’s not in control. Whatever drives her is destroying her day by day from within.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Edge_of_the_Mists_%28living_world%29

Though the “she’s not in control” does point to the manipulation, if not corruption, Canach hints at her personal goal. Which matches the original statement of her goal after she emerged from the machine:

Scarlet giggled as she raised her hand to her face and watched the red thorn vine chase itself between her fingers. “So much makes sense now. The Pale Tree, the Nightmare Court, Caithe and Faolain…it’s all part of a grand design.

“But I see the flaws in that design. My people don’t have to take what we’re given, or be what we were “born to be.” No people do. We can change the rules…well, I can. And I’m going to.”

Omadd said nothing. With dusty red thorn vines wrapped tightly around his throat, wrists, and ankles, he could not. He hung silent and still, suspended from all four walls and the ceiling on a tangled deadfall of thorns, as blood dripped and pooled below him.

“I’ve learned so much,” Scarlet continued. “Now I have to put that knowledge to use. An insurmountable challenge is rising, and my people have been called to meet it. We are compelled by our creator to do so.

“But I reject that call. I reject the notion that that I must choose the Dream or be lost to Nightmare. The forces that push us this way or that can be redirected. They can be set against one another to the detriment of both, and now I know how.”

Scarlet gestured and the thorns around Omadd tightened. They raised his lifeless body high, and then turned it to greet whoever entered the room next.

Scarlet’s voice rose as she went on. “I have a great deal of work ahead of me. I don’t know what the world will be when I’m through, but I will very much enjoy finding out. Empires will fall, continents will burn, and when the conflagration is over, I’ll be there to put my stamp on whatever new world this one becomes.”

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Short_Story:_What_Scarlet_Saw

That is presuming that sylvari are dragon minions in the first place.

For which there is no support.

@Darc: Scarlet passed through the special courses of all three colleges before going into the machine which was, by all appearances, what allowed the entity into her mind.

So I would disagree that she got smarter. Wiser, sure, since she knew more. But not so much smarter. But everyone gets wiser everyday – or should.

@Silver: “Tyria will bow to a new master” kind of seems like she was intentionally trying to feed the dragon, especially given the line seen if you take an engineer to the instance and interact with the panels.

Except that Malyck states he had no Dream of Dreams – at all. But as we see with Caithe, he didn’t have amnesia so it isn’t that he simply forgot his Dream of Dreams experience.

SirMoogie.9263:

The video clearly shows this, but it’s odd as I thought the dragon’s awoke because they were drained of magic and needed to eat, when they sleep they seep magic out into the world. Am I mistaken, or was Mordremonth awake this whole time and looking for a quick and very large meal?

They wake when the magic in the world is at a high amount, but they – or at least, some – are fed magic to hasten the awakening. This is talked about in Edge of Destiny in regards to Drakkar (though unnamed in the novel) siphoning magic from the Sons of Svanir to aid Jormag in rising.

Seems like they consume magic to awake as well, and champions are there to hasten the job. As proven by Kralkatorrik, they certainly don’t need champions to rise.

@hardy: It’s not the last, as Kralkatorrik woke up after the sylvari came to be and they’re immune to becoming Branded (Branded and Risen are the explicit statements of no-sylvari-corruption-possible).

@Darc: I don’t see her losing her free will over time in her journals. Rather, her losing her sanity. Then she succumbed to the entity (be it Mordremoth, a champion of Mordremoth, or someone who’d want to see the dragon rise but isn’t related to it) rather than go insane. This doesn’t show a lack of free will per se. Just bowing to a new master (to use her terms for Tyria).

And what “freakish skills” does Scarlet have that isn’t derived from her born-with genius?

Tamias.7059:

I’m not sure this quite works – Scarlet’s insanity began long before she was disconnected from the Dream.

Her insanity began with Omadd’s machine. This is when she became separated from the Dream. As stated in this interview, iirc.

Tamias.7059:

If only non-dreaming sylvari (and I am certainly not convinced that Malyck is one of these, if there are any) can be corrupted by Mordremoth, then it would mean that the Nightmare has nothing to do with Mordremoth

I don’t see why you argue this. Firstly, the Nightmare cannot be corruption. The Nightmare Court cannot be corrupted. Their immunity prevents corruption. If the Nightmare was corruption, all Courtiers would die upon conversion.

But if it’s influence instead, that’s a different matter. A means to twist and perhaps shatter the Dream of Dreams, thus allowing corruption later on. Or if it’s the closest to corruption that can occur while tied to the Dream.

I’d expand more, but I must leave now.

Mickey Frogeater.1470:

Jormag likes living minions(the Claw of Jormag is clearly bone and ice), Kralkatorrik’s reasons for killing Sylvari is unknown(both it and Primordus’s minions hold the least sentience of Elder Dragon Minions so anything connected to the dream it most likely kills) and Zhaitan just has Risen Grubs climb out of them as the Sylvari dies(for all we know that may be his version of Sylvari corruption).

Branded are just as intelligent as icebrood and risen, actually. See Edge of Destiny. And Jormag’s known to corrupt corpses as well – again, see Edge of Destiny. Furthermore, we know that Zhaitan can corrupt plants and living beings (Kellach and Sparkfly Fen reversely).

The grubs are likely just feasting on the corpses.

DarcShriek.5829:

Konig Des Todes.2086:

I really wish people stop claiming the sylvari are dragon minions as if it were a fact.

There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to support that claim. It’s just raw speculation and all support the theory had has been debunked!

Speculation is fun. Quit acting like a buzzkill because people have opinions other than yours.

Sure, speculate if you wish – it’s what we’re here for. Doesn’t mean it’s not unsupported and thus should not be stated as fact which is what I was saying.

DarcShriek.5829:

We spend 14 months trying to prevent a sylvari from awakening her master, an elder dragon. With all the heroes of Tyria, we failed in that task and yet I’m being told that there is no proof that sylvari can be corrupted. If the last season of the LS isn’t proof that a sylvari was a dragon champion, then there is no such thing as proof.

We have been told since before release that sylvari cannot be corrupted. Specifically, the wording was “those born from the Pale Tree”.

This means that there’s something unique to the Pale Tree that prevent corruption.

Malyck is also not a dragon minion – it’s pretty obvious on that given his personality. The only thing he lacks is a Dream of Dreams experience.

Scarlet might be corrupted – it’s not proven yet. Just because she aided in rising Mordremoth doesn’t make her a minion (Sons of Svanir are not corrupted, they aided in rising Jormag).

Combine the three, sylvari’s natural state is not minions, but it may be the one thing unique to the Pale Tree amongst sylvari is the Dream that prevents corruption.

Ergo, sylvari can be corrupted, but sylvari from the Pale Tree (so long as they don’t break ties to the Dream like Scarlet did) cannot be corrupted.

macvanilla.4631:

I don’t know the definition of being corrupted.

But isn’t being influenced by a dragon the same as being corrupted?

No. Sons of Svanir are not corrupted, but they are influenced.

Corruption leads to becoming a dragon minion. Dragon minions have their flesh turned into the element of the dragon (ice, crystal, etc.) and all but the strongest (lieutenants and champions) become more or less mindless “kill anything they see”, as well as unquestionably fanatic.

Influenced just means manipulation.

Mickey Frogeater.1470:

To those claiming the Sons of Svanir we talk to in Hoelbrak aren’t corrupted are likely deluding themselves.

It’s outright stated in lore that the Sons of Svanir are not icebrood. They’re still fanatic to Jormag, but it’s their free will and choice to be so. Dragon minions – icebrood included – have no free will.

And the Sons of Svanir are not turning into ice.

Mind you, the more a Son of Svanir siphons magic from Jormag (such as his shamans) the more icebrood like they get, and eventually all shamans become icebrood.

Mickey Frogeater.1470:

They are likely Icebrood like the other Sons of Svanir. It goes without saying that Icebrood are likely intelligent.

Only the lieutenants and dragon champions are intelligent. Most icebrood are not.

Xukavi.4320:

I’m sorry but hasn’t it already been speculated that the sylvari are somehow related to Mordremoth? Wouldn’t this confirm that theory and that the Pale Tree is somehow keeping the corruption away from them.

No, it doesn’t. It just means that the sylvari’s immunity to corruption is not biological – it can be removed, and Omadd’s machine did just that. That is, if Scarlet got corrupted.

Though what the machine seemed to have removed was Scarlet’s connection to the tree (it was stated in an interview after the Jubilee that Scarlet’s disconnected from the Dream and it wasn’t her choice). This implies any sylvari not tied to the Dream become more susceptible to corruption. Soundless and Malyck, look out.

There is no relation between sylvari and Mordremoth hinted at or implied.

Xukavi.4320:

True, that speculation was that Sylvari and Mordy minions and Pale Tree is Mordy’s Champ. But from what I understood so farm from talk about this release is that it’s showing to be partly true.

Then you understand wrong. All we know for certain is:

1. Omadd’s machine broke barriers in Scarlet’s subconscious.
2. It did not introduce anything.
3. Scarlet work up Mordremoth.

We still don’t know that the “entity” was Mordremoth, just that her goal was to wake the dragon. And how Mordremoth got to Scarlet – there’s many possibilities for this. It being tied to the Nightmare is one such possibility.

Xukavi.4320:

Why doesn’t Mordy have a champion?

Who says he doesn’t?

Xukavi.4320:

Do we know of any other trees having the same sort of Pale Tree but no Dream?

Malcyk, and supposedly his tree, hold no ties to the Dream.

Xukavi.4320:

Once again, this would point out that unless they had 2 diff stories (which I doubt), the Fall of Abaddon should have had a place in all this somehow. Now I’m not gonna say Abaddon is alive or he’s coming back, but what if Scarlet’s “New Master” was that same thing that “passed through the Mists that only he knows” and it was a way of showing or hinting us towards that?

I don’t think Abaddon’s fractal would have related to Scarlet. I recall reading that if Evon won, Lion’s Arch’s defenses would have been built up and stood a better chance against Scarlet.

With that being the “give” it seems the “take” of choosing Evon over Kiel is the lack of extra Scarlet info like the ley lines or Thaumanova connection (which would have left us confused why the Thaumanova was passed through when she tapped the ley lines).

Story wise, it seems the options were:
Evon – less knowledge on Scarlet, but stronger defense in finale
Kiel – more knowledge on Scarlet, but weaker defense in finale

Pure interpretation and conjecture though.

Shiren.9532:

Why did Scarlet place teleporters around Lion’s Arch that conveniently allowed us into her fortress? Can you imagine the Trojan war if the Trojans just built four back doors into their city?

Probably for her troops. Or herself.

Uruz Six.6594:

Mm. If Malyck’s tree has been parked next to Mordremoth all this time, the question to ask is if it has or hasn’t been corrupted for a while now. Not to mention that, in a sense, there are sylvari that have been corrupted: The Nightmare Court.

If we go with what’s been already theorycrafted: That the Dream has a physical base and not an inherent one with the sylvari and that Mordremoth is the source of the Nightmare, we’re left with only the Dream-connected sylvari susceptible to draconic influence. It almost sounds to me that its not Malyck’s people that are in horrible danger – its the Dreamers and courtiers.

Sylvari of the Pale Tree are immune to corruption – they die instead of becoming minions. This is outright stated for both Kralkatorrik and Zhaitan, but also mentioned in a general sense.

The Nightmare Court thus cannot be corrupted, but their inability to revert and their mental change do imply being heavily influenced. They all hold free will though, thus they are certainly not minions.

The theory would be that the Dream prevents corruption, thus Malyck – who had no dream – would be corruptible. Thus his tree could be too.

Lutinz.6915:

The Nightmare could easily be the work of some previously dormant champion or perhaps a corrupted ‘Pale Tree’. We see Sons of Svanir use a Havroun to gain access to the Mists. Perhaps Modremoth or one of his minions could have corrupted one of the Pale Tree’s siblings to gain access to the Dream in a similar fashion.

Nice theory. I love the idea of a champion rather than Mordremoth causing Scarlet’s insanity. But it should be noted that Malyck held no Dream of Dreams experience (it wasn’t amnesia), so combined with the White Stag means the Dream is not something the sylvari trees hold alone, but rather seems to be locational.

Doesn’t prevent the champion-causes-the-Nightmare idea, but takes it a new route.

Hmmm… the Great Jungle Wurm’s hinted to be the source of the Wychmire Swamp darkness, and hinted to not be the ultimate source, and it never dies (it wakes up and goes back underground when timer resets). Perhaps the Great Jungle Wurm, with such proximity to the biggest Nightmare Court base, is the source of the Nightmare as a mere champion for Mordremoth?

Natsu.2589:

Never said it was their goal. Your own words: “They just need magic to stay awake”. So, when they have consumed all magic, they go to sleep again. I suppose, the same thing would happen, if some ominous beings lock away magic in something like, say, magical stones … ? Or if some weirdo decided to disrupt the magic flow? … Or if the magic sinks on a very low level, within a short time frame? I think, you get the point.

Your wording made it sound like their goal was to consume magic and then go back to sleep.

Natsu.2589:

Nothing ergo. I don’t even know yet, how these ley lines function exactly. I just read “disrupt”, and normally this word goes along the lines of “deny sb. smth.”, and not “redirect”. In the end, I have my problems believing, that piercing a nexus of magical energy somehow conveniently “redirects” the magical flow, precisely to one comparatively tiny spot inside of Tyria.

And yes, I saw the cinematic several times. To be honest, I don’t see a tangible diversion. I see an explosion and one, or maybe different streams of magic flowing through the ground. Finally there is a maw in the ground, that supposedly inhales some of the magic. It’s not necessarily an evidence, however. I’m not convinced, at this point, that there is nothing more than meets the eye.

disrupt doesn’t mean deny, but to alter. Which can lead to redirecting. The fact that the Elder Dragon – stated to be a dragon, at least, and a loud one at that much like Kralkatorrik’s awakening (Edge of Destiny, page 341 if you have the book) – began moving and consuming the magic…

It seems pretty obvious she was feeding Mordremoth.

Though considering it passes through Thaumanova, a known location of multiple ley lines, perhaps what she did was prevent flow of magic to the other ley lines, thus “blocking” all paths but one.

Natsu.2589:

What you see there, is an assumption of your engineer. Scarlet was at least partly insane, and passed crash curses of every Rata Sum academy. Do you really believe, your character figured it all out, with a simple glance at a console?

There’s more than just that, and non-engineers don’t get it. Plus it’s more than just a simple glance at a console – it’s everything that Scarlet’s been doing. From beginning to end, including – perhaps most importantly – the stuff in Scarlet’s lair under the Priory and the Study of Scarlet during Edge of the Mists.

Natsu.2589:

No. To be honest, I don’t like your attitude much. Deliberately so or not, for me, you somehow leave behind a rather arrogant impression. I’ve given you a direction, you can dig through the side yourself, if you want. I think it was somewhere in the “Flameseeker Chronicles” column. Look it up, believe me or not – I really don’t care.

Talk about the kettle calling the pot black.

Malyck never lost his memory; that was the PC’s assumption because he didn’t know of the Grove, the Dream, Nightmare, or Pale Tree. It was proven if you go with Caithe’s path in the storyline that he never lost his memory, and it was proven if you go with Trahearne that he never had a Dream of Dreams experience.

The Dream of Dreams is not unique to trees – see the White Stag – it seems to be location-based, rather than something tied to the sylvari race.

We have no indication whether or not Malyck and his tree’s sylvari can be corrupted – that’s part of the hypothesis.

Stitch.1794:

Her warband name will be Whetstone if she gets in, according to the wiki. Not sure what the source for that is, but I’ve seen the same name mentioned on forums elsewhere in the past, too.

She was named Whetstone during the end of Flame and Frost, and there was a mail from her with said name too.

It’s been there from release, and there’s more to it. The full (and verbatim) lines are:

Citizen: Hey, are you all right? What’s troubling you?
Citizen (2): I had the worst nightmares last night. They cling to me still, and I can’t seem to stop crying.
Citizen: Poor thing do you think they were your own nightmares, or someone else’s?
Citizen (2): I can’t imagine such horrible things could originate in me.
Citizen: This has been going on for too long. You’re exhausted.
Citizen (2): I just need to harden myself to them. I can’t let them get to me.
Citizen: No, that’s exactly what the Nightmare Court wants. They want you to stop feeling.
Citizen (2): I don’t know whether these nightmares come from the Nightmare Court or not.
Citizen (2): They could be a symptom of darkness in my heart.
Citizen: You can’t think that way. You are good and gentle. It’s a trap. Don’t lose yourself.
Citizen (2): I’m not even sure who I am anymore.

Props to Plagiarised for documenting @ http://tyriantomes.wordpress.com/2014/01/18/upper-commons/

About that last point though, the thing is….

While the other races may be corrupted by the Elder Dragons, turned into undead minions or crystalline creatures of the Brand, the sylvari are never turned. Those born of the Pale Tree simply die before the corruption takes hold.

https://web.archive.org/web/20110815225850/http://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/races/sylvari/

It’s not just Zhaitan, and we know by just looking at the Brand – as well as Ghosts of Ascalon – that Kralkatorrik held no issues in corrupting plants.

Mordremoth woke up around Magus Falls, following the cinematic. Not under Lion’s Arch.

I don’t see what’s weird about a sylvari heavily influence – if not corrupted – aiding Mordremoth’s rise, while a good sylvari not influenced nor corrupted aided in killing it. That’s like saying it’s weird Svanir, a norn, was serving Jormag, when norn are working to kill Jormag.

hardy.7469:

Unless there’s ANet employee officially stating otherwise, your yelling and the suggestion that Sylvari are dragon minions are both equally speculative.
Speculations can be neither right or wrong, or as you imply, more wrong.

It isn’t speculative to say there’s no support for a theory when there is never any support for said theory presented – none, at least, that hasn’t been debunked.

You will note in that post that I did not say “the sylvari are not dragon minions” – I said “I wish people would stop claiming that theory like it’s fact, when there’s no support for said theory.”

Mada.5319:

Anet can change the lore as and when they please (see: calendar changes) so until a statement made by anet says otherwise, nothing is off the table. Doesn’t matter if there is no evidence, anet can add the evidence at any time.

I don’t believe the sylvari are dragon minions but I believe there is some connection that we don’t know about.

Well then, when they do change the lore, that’s another matter.

Though TBH, if they keep changing the lore on a whim like that, I’m gone. The calendar was managable only because it’s so minor. But this is major, it changes the very core of dragon minions, and an entire playable race, destroying their stance of “we want the players to be the good guys no matter what” because guess what, dragon minions aren’t good guys.

The Pact only focuses on dragon threats. Dragons being related to Scarlet’s unproven until now (yeah, cave paintings don’t count as proof). Plus what Jelle said.

Natsu.2589:

Somehow, that doesn’t make much sense. Dragons consume magic, when it’s on a peak level. Awakening the dragons before that point, would mean less food for them. Wouldn’t they go to sleep again more quickly then?

The Elder Dragons’ goal isn’t to consume magic and go to sleep.

“The rule of the living has ended. This is the time of the Elder Dragons. Thus begins the time of Zhaitan and of Orr. The day of their ultimate victory is close.” – Captain Whiting, Sea of Sorrows, Page 426
“Long ago, I lived in a dragon-dominated world.” – Glint, Edge of Destiny, Page 339
“Tyria will bow before a new master.” – Scarlet Briar, Battle of Lion’s Arch, Scarlet’s End

And more I’m surely forgetting. The dragons seem bent on ruling, not just simply “I’ll eat a bit of magic and go to sleep.”

They just need magic to stay awake. And six Elder Dragons is perhaps too much for the world.

Natsu.2589:

Never said, they would go to the dragons. I have a problem with the second part. Redirecting? One console inside the drill clearly states, that this whole thing was meant to disrupt the ley lines. Just imagine, what would happen, if someone disrupts the ley lines permanently? That’s the interesting question here.

You said that disrupting the ley lines is like disrupting his food supply, ergo you were saying they go to the dragons.

And did you even watch the cinematic? By disrupting, she diverted and thus redirected the magic to the dragon.

Natsu.2589:

It seems to seep into a maw, yes. But was that really intended by Scarlet? I’m not sure, atm. However, I think, in the end, the most obvious will be true. Mordremoth made her wake him. <scratches head>… If he can do that, … isn’t he already awake? Why doesn’t he simply rise? … Anyway, this ‘disrupting-’ and ‘need-help-thing’ seems somewhat odd to me, as said.

Take an engineer in, you get the dialogue I’m putting in the attachments.

Natsu.2589:

There was an article on Massively about that. They gave certain people information about the future story, and based on that, the author said it’s important that Scarlet is a Sylvari and not an Asura (or any another race). So, yeah, you’re right – Anet probably never said it, but it was the conclusion of this writer.

Link?

I really wish people stop claiming the sylvari are dragon minions as if it were a fact.

There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to support that claim. It’s just raw speculation and all support the theory had has been debunked!

Jelle.4623:

hardy.7469:

Maybe Mormedoth isn’t the “new” master, maybe. It’s somethign else. Like Abbadon even though he’s suppose to be dead.

Also who is the first “master” for there to be a new one? Lol

Where did you get ‘new master’ from?

Scarlet says it. “Tyria will bow to a new master now.” Or something along those lines.

MassDelusion.9130:

It seems to me that by drilling into the ley line, she released a bunch of magic into the world (the big explosion of blue light).
Dragons wake when there’s too much magic in the world, to absorb it back again(?)
you can see magic coming out of his mouth at the end.

Going into his mouth, actually.

The magic of the ley line, as you can see in the cinematic and if you go to the consoles as an engineer, is redirected towards the dragon.

Mickey Frogeater.1470:

She’s Modremoth’s Lieutenant Dragon Champion just like the Shatterer and Glint was Kralkatorrik’s Lieutenant Dragon Champions, like how the Great Destroyer was Primordus’s Lieutenant Dragon Champion and like how the Sovereign Eye of Zhaitan was well…. Zhaitan’s Lieutenant Dragon Champion….

We still haven’t seen Jormag’s lieutenant at all so that Elder Dragon is the second most mysterious next to the the Deep Sea Elder Dragon.

Uh……….

Nothing says Scarlet’s corrupted. If she’s not corrupted, she can’t be a dragon champion.

And the Elder Dragons all have multiple of them. Jormag has had 4 known champions – Svanir, Drakkar, Dragonspawn, and Claw of Jormag. A full list of them can be found here.

ANd honestly? Jormag’s perhaps the least mysterious other than Kralkatorrik.

MassDelusion.9130:

Why did Tequatl get stronger? We were told it had to do with the LS.
Who is Mr.E?

Given that these are not of the Scarlet plot, they’re not of the main Season 1 storyline, thus won’t be answered (most likely) in Season 1’s epilogue.

MassDelusion.9130:

Who made Scarlet crazy/was talking to her in her dreams?
Was that the person that wanted her to find the ley lines?

Mordremoth, it would seem, given her line about a new master for Tyria.
Yes, the entity was the one whom she succumbed to and thus who wanted her to find the ley lines.

The other (non-quoted) questions are good ones I hope we get answers to.

hunter steele.7836:

All spoilers!!!

A:Scarlet got crazy because she saw the eternal alchemy and mordermoth trying to control here
A:yes she was trying to find him through ley lines and kill him
Guess: she saw mordermoth uprising in eternal alchemy

that is all what i have.

-insert sound of “WRONG” buzzard-

She thought she saw the Eternal Alchemy. But as we learn in Edge of the Mists, what she saw wasn’t so.

Vorpp: His notes say its purpose was to shut down the mind’s security system and open it—like opening a door—to welcome in the truths of the Eternal Alchemy. But our minds are protected for a reason.

What the machine did was shut down the mind’s “security system” – or so the intention was. It was thus a theory to lead to the Eternal Alchemy. To me, this sounds akin to the Voice of Koda’s mind being partially in the Mists.

Furthermore, she was feeding Mordremoth. That makes Mordremoth stronger.

I would argue yes.

I would argue further. I would argue that the sylvari are immune because of the Dream. We were told that after the machine, Scarlet was disconnected from the Dream and it wasn’t a maintained meditation like the Soundless.

This would mean, therefore, that Malyck and his tree – which hold no Dream of Dreams experience – can be corrupted.

Mordremoth was the sixth Elder Dragon, the only one not awake yet. And only one that could have been in the Maguuma Jungle.

Jelle.4623:

What we saw in the end cinematic looks to be traveling in the direction of the Maguuma Jungle, so possibly Mordremoth.

It’s more specific than that.

You pass through Kryta (Kessex Hills/the area between Kessex and LA); you see Thaumanova (with its pillar of light even – now revealed as a breach in the ley line given it is the same color and glows as t he cracks pass through), and passes through an arid wasteland (Dry Top? Ettin’s Back?), into lush areas again.

Following the line, he’s in or past The Falls of GW1. In Magus Falls by GW2 terminology.

We see risen in Fireheart Rise. We see hostile Icebrood in Metrica Province. Jormag was on the northern edge of the continent (off even the Eye of the North map of GW1) and yet we had Drakkar and Svanir as minions to it.

And it isn’t yet confirmed that Scarlet was corrupted by Mordremoth. Just influenced/manipulated by.

I would not disagree with the possibility that Malyck’s tree can be – or could have been – corrupted. However, Malyck being a dragon minion is about as likely as the Pale Tree being the love child of Mordremoth and Melandru. Simply due to his personality.

I don’t think Scarlet something that could be born from any tree. It was her own unique desire for individuality which led her to Omadd’s machine. And then Mordremoth itself got a hold of her. She as herself is no dragon champion by birth or design. She likely got corrupted, or influenced if not that and manipulated into waking Mordremoth.

I don’t think the sylvari origins lie in Mordremoth. There’s nothing to support this other than random speculation – in which you can claim Menzies is the secret persona of Grenth and be just as likely (actually, that claim actually has some kind of backing to it) – and attempts to fill the unknown with… well, random speculation. The sylvari still hold far too many unknowns to make any credible guess at their origins, let alone attempt to tie them into Mordremoth.

Because if the sylvari are tied to Mordremoth you have to wonder why the Pale Tree was capable of breaking free. It seems unlikely that the Dream can not only prevent corruption, but reverse it. I mean, not even Forgotten magic could do that – it just gave Glint free will.

Natsu.2589:

At the moment, we all seem to assume, that she was corrupted and manipulated by a dragon (Mordremoth). I’m not so sure about this …

Does he really need help to awake? Furthermore, if dragons eat magic, why should disrupting ley lines be of any benefit to Mordremoth? Isn’t that like disrupting the food supply?

Both Primordus and Jormag had a dragon champion to help them wake up (Great Destroyer and Drakkar respectively), whom pushed for their waking by feeding them magic (though the Great Destroyer’s death set Primordus back). They can awaken without the aid of a champion (Primordus eventually did, as did Kralkatorrik), but it takes longer.

And the ley lines don’t go to the Elder Dragons, they’re just the paths of least resistance for moving magic in the world. Scarlet redirect the ley line(s) to Mordremoth, effectively giving him breakfast in bed.

Natsu.2589:

How about this? The disruption was supposed to be permanent, in order to starve the dragons, or at least “suffocate” Mordremoth in his sleep. What if Scarlet wasn’t corrupted by him, but by another mighty being (the, soon to show, new ruler of Tyria), that just wants to get rid of the dragons, to gain a foothold on Tyria?

The end cinematic alone debunks this. The final shots shows the magic seeping into a dragon’s opening maw.

Natsu.2589:

Hm, but then again, Anet said it’s important that the villain for all this is a Sylvari. In this respect, it would make more sense, to connect her to Mordremoth. Or rather, to connect all the Sylvari to Mordremoth, in the end. I somehow still believe, Sylvari were meant to be Mordremoths minions – which would finally make them remotely interesting btw. :P

Where did they say it was important to be a sylvari? IIRC, all that was said was that it was necessary for her to have studied at all three colleges, and that they chose a sylvari villain because they’re so new and without background thus can use fleshing out.

Mickey Frogeater.1470:

Dragons wake up if there’s alot of Magic nearby. The Great Destroyer and Svanir were meant to open up a Ley Line so that magic would raise to the point where Primordus and Jormag would awake. We interfered with their attempts so only Kralkatorrik, Modremoth, Zhaitan and the Deep Sea Dragon awoke on schedule.

Uh….

The Great Destroyer’s purpose was to feed Primordus magic, indeed, as well as wipe out all life. But nothing’s ever said about ley lines. Svanir has no stated “purpose” and all he did was kill a bunch of random traveling norn before disappearing. Drakkar, however, pulled magic from the Sons of Svanir and fed that into Jormag.

Ley lines have never been mentioned until Scarlet’s plot.

And Kralkatorrik might not have woken up “on schedule” as Glint was meant to wake him (so all indications go), but rebelled.

DarcShriek.5829:

Was Scarlet influenced or corrupted?

We don’t know, but given the yellow “growth” on her face in the final cinematic, and her line of “Tyria will bow to a new master” I’m guessing corrupted.

DarcShriek.5829:

If she was merely influenced, then there is no reason the Nightmare Court couldn’t have been used if they are also influenced.

And yet… we do see some Nightmare Courtiers working with Scarlet. And no reason has been given to why they agreed to help.

DarcShriek.5829:

If she was corrupted, then that destroys the whole sylvari can’t be corrupted position.

Scarlet’s a unique case though. Omadd’s machine broke something – likely what kept sylvari from being corruptable.

The rest of your argument is moot, because Scarlet is not a standard situation. She’s an outright unique case, ergo her situation does not apply to any other sylvari.

DarcShriek.5829:

Because she is only influenced, like the Nightmare Court, then the Nightmare Court could have done this as well. Why would Mordy wait until a random connection is made with a random person? A connection that may not have happened at all when he has a team of people already at his disposal.

Or maybe he wasn’t waiting. Maybe he has been trying, but the act of Omadd’s machine is what made his attempts finally succeed.

We know too little to be certain. We don’t even know why sylvari are immune. We just know that they are.

DarcShriek.5829:

Please show me a reference that states categorically that all dragon minions have to have limited speech?

Other than widespread observation of all dragon minions ever?

Mainly this step. But I don’t think there’s any “single reference” that outright state this., the closest is in the link, and Trahearne’s mention of dragon minions being single-minded here – likely many many others too. This is an observation – the weakest minions are also the dumbest; the grunts of dragon minions are mindless zergers; they swarm their enemies rather than deploy tactics of any kind, and it is only the more intelligent minions (most notably lieutenants and champions) that deploy tactics. And these are so uncommon that it surprises even Trahearne when they begin using tactics.

DarcShriek.5829:

Also, I don’t recall Svanir spreading corruption. The real champion in this case was Drakkar, it was Drakkar that corrupted Svanir. If Drakkar could create Svanir, there is no reason a pale tree equivalent couldn’t create Malyck.

True, a champion of Modremoth would be capable of creating another champion, but Svanir was singleminded in causing destruction and killing nonetheless. Even the champions are not so unique like Labwan.

1) If you talked to Kasmeer in Lornar’s during Escape, she explains that she gets hiccups when she’s scared. She was scared confronting Scarlet.
2) Since Tower of Nightmares, there were hints. It was outright confirmed in Edge of the Mists in-game, but before even Origins of Madness in a livestream. Heavy hints in Origins of Madness in-game too, btw.
3) Warband. It’s a charr thing. More seriously, warbands are units within charr society and they’re rather close nit, almost family like, and to be without one is to be a gladium – Rox lost her warband before we knew her, and she’s been trying out for Rytlock’s warband since we met her in Flame and Frost. Everything about her has been trying to impress Rytlock to get into the Stone Warband (Rytlock’s warband).

AsgarZigel.4530:

I thought they’d use the tail Rox cut off somehow in the end. I mean you don’t mention a loaded dragon tail in the first act and then never smack Scarlet over the head with it, right? :P

She was hauling it about for Rytlock, he told her to toss it out cuz it smells. This happened in Origins of Madness.

AsgarZigel.4530:

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Why does she react so negatively to Kasmeer saying her real name in the final instance, anyway? How are Sylvari named? I suppose it would make some sense if it was the name the Pale Tree gave her.

DarcShriek.5829:

It will be interesting to see how the sylvari’s relationship with Mordy plays out. I’d still like to know what Caithe’s secret is and why Mordy was attracted to Scarlet during her trip.

Why does there need to be a relationship between Mordremoth and sylvari?

RedStar.4218:

What was the point of gathering all those armies ? Why build the Marionette and try it out in Lornar ?

The armies were more for what they’d give her – the energy probes from the Molten Alliance; the miasma from the Toxic Alliance; holograms from Aetherblades. Them being armies was a bonus, but it seems she didn’t care much for that beyond the Aetherblade fleet.

As for the Marionette – it was a red herring of sorts it seems. It was explained if you beat the Marionette, the whole weapon test was just to – as Rox put it – “thin out the herd”. If you lost the event, the Marionette exploded – self-destruction. And as per a livestream, there was only one Marionette (though we can replay it) and canonically it was beaten (you can see its corpse there).

RedStar.4218:

If she knew that she was going to invade Lion’s Arch, why did she bother with the thumpers in the first place ? I doesn’t seem like the she knew it was somewhere in LA because she placed them all over the world, even way up north in Jormag’s (supposed) territory.

This bit seems a bit weird to me. I think she was just doubt checking herself and where she needed to strike.

I honestly think she had two agendas the whole time, and disrupting the ley lines was one. The other was to weaken the pillars of the Pact (Humanity, Iron Legion, Hoelbrak, and Lion’s Arch are the biggest supporters beyond the Orders, which she marked with X’s along with LA).

Thus LA was a target from day one, but not for the ley lines. Though that’s my theory. And I doubt we’ll ever know now without digging it out of a dev.

RedStar.4218:

If LA was the target from day one, it does make some sort of sense. But the amount of thumpers she laid all over Tyria don’t seem to go that way.

Her attempt to put Mai Trin in the council was to eventually attack LA. So it was a target from the beginning. But the ley line being in LA may not have been to even her knowledge immediately.

RedStar.4218:

Mentioning “E” reminds me that all the different part of the living story are supposed to all tie in together in the end.

No they weren’t. The Zephryites were a separate plot element, like the backgrounds of the biconics and Tequatl. Not all of it is meant to tie together. Just that they’ll be explored more in the future. Clearly in season 2.

Shiren.9532:

It’s not totally the same thing but Canach radically changed after his first appearance and I’m sure you read the writer’s explanation that sylvari physiology can change in response to their physical and mental well being.

That seems different though than merely psychological well being changing her appearance – and her appearance was even changed during the Omadd machine event.

Shiren.9532:

I like the dragon corruption idea better, but that becomes “messy” when you consider Nightmare, the Dream and how Mordremoth first contacted Scarlet. If Mordremoth can corrupt sylvari, does that mean this new dragon plays by different rules from the others?

Well, technically, they all already corrupt in different fashions even though their corruption can affect all things equally.

DarcShriek.5829:

In addition to who is “E”, I’d like to know why Tequatl became stronger. It was mentioned that this was tied in also.

Tied into the Living Story. Not into Scarlet.